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Need to Know: Redskins vs Eagles by the numbers—Domination on both sides of the ball

Oct 17, 2016, 5:14 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, October 17, six days before the Washington Redskins travel to Detroit to play the Lions.


Today’s schedule: Jay Gruden news conference, 3 p.m., CSN and

Days until: Redskins @ Lions 6; Redskins vs. Bengals in London 13; Vikings @ Redskins 27

Redskins vs Eagles by the numbers

— The Redskins have now held three consecutive opponents to 20 or fewer points in a single season for the first time since games 3-5 of the 2011 season. The bad part about those 2011 games was that the Redskins lost two of them. The Redskins won all three of these.

—The Redskins rushed for 230 yards, the most for the team since their Week 17 win over the Cowboys in 2012 (274).

—The Redskins averaged 6.96 yards per rush. That is their best per-carry average in a game with at least 20 carries since they averaged 8.3 against the Falcons in 1985 (via Pro Football Reference). You have to go back to 1966, and their record-setting 72-41 win over the Giants to find a higher average per rush (8.7 yards)

—The last time they rushed for more yards against the Eagles was in 1984, when they had 232. John Riggins led the way with 107 yards that day.

—Ryan Kerrigan recorded two sacks, the ninth multi-sack game in his career.

—The Redskins now have four straight wins over the Eagles. The last time they won four in a row over Philly was 1985-1987.

—The Redskins outgained the Eagles in the first half 285 yards to 41. The 244-yard margin was the highest since at least 1991, when they started keeping such records. They stretched that advantage to 341-41 by driving 56 yards for a field goal on their first possession of the second half.

—The Redskins ran a stretch of 39 plays without the Eagles running a play with the exception of a kneeldown at the end of the first half. According to Elias that is the longest such stretch of plays any team has run in at least the last 25 years.

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  1. redskins12thman - Oct 17, 2016 at 5:57 AM

    That was one impressive performance by the Redskins coaching staff and players. A near perfect game and I won’t get on the WRs for their drops after they’ve played great all season long. In fact, outside of not even a dozen plays, don’t think you could do much better:

    1. Vernon Davis using football as prop (basketball) — can we stop these senseless, costly penalties (especially by a vet)?
    2. The KR for TD — facilitated by Davis penalty because Hopkins can’t kick the ball out of harm’s way
    3. The Cousins INT (but otherwise an excellent game)
    4. The Breeland hands to the face penalty (didn’t see the foul so don’t know if it was a phantom call anyway)
    5. The penultimate drive by the Redskins — did we suddenly forget how to play call and play???

    That’s about it. Great job otherwise. HTTR!

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    • Trey Gregory - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:04 AM

      A lot to be happy about and optimistic for after that win. The D looked a lot better.

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    • greed - Oct 17, 2016 at 12:24 PM

      from the 20yd line it would been damn near impossible for hopkins to kick i out the endzone , my problem was the decision to corner pooch the kickoff, allowf eagles to seal off a lane , just kick the ball down the middle

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  2. redskins12thman - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:01 AM

    Of all the great plays by the Redskins, I was most thankful that the team finally stopped the run! What I’ve been looking for all season. It was just great to see.

    Hard not to mention this and not also give a “wow” for our running attack. I was skeptical that the team had done enough this off-season to make decent strides in the run game, but since Long has started to play center, and Lauvao is healthy at LG, it’s working and its harder to do better than they did against the Eagles.

    So pleased!

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    • ET - Oct 17, 2016 at 12:42 PM

      The line is by no means perfect, but getting Long settled in at center already is paying dividends. If Long continues to grow at the position (though he’s already an upgrade) and Lauvao can stay healthy, this line will be formidible not only in pass protection but run blocking as well. And, hey, hats off to Nsekhe, Vernon Davis and Niles Paul for doin’ some great blocking as well. Amazing.

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      • Trey Gregory - Oct 17, 2016 at 2:30 PM

        Agreed. Health is key here. But if they can stay healthy then they should continue to play well and probably get even better. Lauvao and Scherff have to be dealing with some kind of learning curve playing with Long. And I’m sure Long is still settling in. It’s an exciting bunch. But the depth scares me.

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  3. colorofmyskinz - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:23 AM

    Wow! Is all I can say… that was impressive dominance in a huge way! The defense isn’t playing lights out. The front is getting pressure. What happened to them? They are playing like wild beasts with their ears pinned back. And stopping the run? This front looks like a different team. Amazing performance. The pressure on Wintz completely pressed him into a frenzy. The ripped shirt in the first play changed his eyes for the rest of the game. Great job D!

    Then the run game OMG! Long is killing it period!! The change from Kory to Long was the single greatest positive change we have made on the line since adding Scherff. This line looks completely different. Jones looks completely different. Running with authority! He is going to set some rushing records if keeps this pace. Kelley looked like he was shot out of a cannon. What a great backup and option. These 3 backs with Thompson add so much depth to the offense it is amazing. What a running game! Now that is what offense looks like when running is a threat. How many people said that running is not needed and over rated in today’s NFL in the beginning of the season?? (When our running game sucked). Running is the single greatest way to improve the passing game. I forget who was saying we did not need a running game but hopefully they see why it is so important.

    If we keep the pressure on the defensive front and keep running the ball like that, sky is the limit this year for this team! When we get Reed, Cravens, and Breeland healthy that will make a big difference. If we can ever add Doctson to the rotation wow. Would sure like to see him compete for the ball in the end zone.

    Great win!!! HTTR!!

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    • redskins12thman - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:33 AM

      The ripped shirt was awesome. So was Baker’s tackle of Smallwood in 3rd quarter.

      Running also helps are defense immensely; keeps them fresh.

      When d-line does better, the rest of the defenders do better. So glad it started to click.

      I think Breeland is healthy now; just hope Reed and Cravens are able to return. Doctson needs to fully recover and practice with Cousins before he trots out; could be awhile.

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    • Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:34 AM

      I was saying last week that the changes they made after the first quarter of the season had had immediate effect. I think that even more now, and we can win things with this defense.

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    • bangkokben - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:49 AM

      I said this team didn’t need a running game TO BE SUCCESSFUL — not that it didn’t need a running game. The point I was trying to make — unsuccessfully — was that if you look at last year’s offensive success that they were able to score points and score in the red zone and convert 3rd downs without a running game. My point is/was that THIS offense without a running game was still able to win more games than it lost. Of course it will be better with a running game.

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  4. redskins12thman - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:26 AM

    While the Lions are a winnable game, it’s also a losable game if we don’t prepare and come in with an “edge” to win the game like we did against the Eagles.

    I do suggest the Redskins keep this up because we’re about to hit a very tough stretch of the schedule:

    Cincinnati (not an overwhelming opponent but tough opponent like Steelers and Eagles)
    Vikings (one of he best teams in the league)
    Packers (we can’t take them lightly)
    Cowboys (rematch only four days after the Packers; not a lot of time to prepare and recover from prior game and they’ve beat us already)
    Cardinals (a talented team that is desperate for wins)
    Eagles (they will want to make up for yesterday)

    I’ve seen enough progress from the Redskins to believe they’ll win at least a couple of these games, but if the Redskins remained focused, prepare well and want the win, they need to first go into Motown and snatch another one before this tougher road commences. The Redskins can’t look past the Lions or the Redskins will lose on Sunday.

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    • cmehustle - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM

      I agree 100 percent with you. We got us some good Ws here but this road up ahead is looking real rough. Im not sure how this ends, but I dont see us making the playoffs. This seems like the start of something good though. I gotta get used to us winning some games, its still a shock to me every time we do get a W lol.

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    • bangkokben - Oct 17, 2016 at 9:36 AM

      Oh so daunting. The schedule game has a way of always changing. The Redskins will be favored in the majority of these games — rightfully so because they are the better team. Go 4-3 in the next seven and the Redskins will be 8-5 in position for a playoff spot. They won’t be taking any team lightly and who knows who or where the injury bug will bite. An unbiased NFL fan would have the Redskins favored in four, underdogs in two, and a pick ’em with the Packers. The Redskins can easily come out of this schedule 5-2 or 3-4. Regardless, they should be in play for a playoff spot after this stretch. Welcome to the NFL where you could win or lose any game.

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  5. sidepull - Oct 17, 2016 at 7:39 AM

    Long at C. What took so long?

    Early on, I gotta say I was upset that they never brought in a RB, maybe a Pierre Thomas, because I thought the whole RB situation was unsettled, unreliable, and injury prone. Kelley brought a glimmer of hope and also some understanding as to why the coaching staff stayed pat with the RB’s when there was so much animosity. Jones run to seal the victory was how it is done. That was sweet.

    I predicted a pick six by Breeland. Well I should just go ahead and predict a pick 6 by Cuz every week because it appears he is never going to freaking learn. Redskins are killing the Egirls, the D is outstanding and he lets em right back in the game with one freaking pass. I think he had a good game otherwise, but I just hate that aspect of his game. And it is no accident. You roll with Cuz as your QB and thats what your gonna get. I watched Arron Rodgers throw a killer pick yesterday, just killer. GB couldn’t recover. That kind of pick is coming for Cuz. Its just something he has shown no ability to get over. I mean last year to this year was supposed to be progress right? Anyhow he had a good game, and it could have even been better if not for some dropped passes? Anybody here a Ryan Grant fan want to tell what purpose he serves? Catch clutch passes thrown to him, good special teams play? What is it?

    Barry, I apologize. Just keep it up. It makes me think back at all the fire Barry comments and then there were some mixed in there that said he had not talent to work with. Clearly he has enough talent to get a job done. Could he use some upgrades? Absolutely. But daggone it, its about time they made a rookie qb look like a rookie and not like Brady ( Who is playing lights out at his age with little to no effort. I know he must be cheating right?).

    Great game. Man I hate the Egirls. Cuz has their number. I dont think he likes em either. All that crapola about not beating a team with a winning record, well this year its on.

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    • cmehustle - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:57 AM

      Well, to be fair to Cousins his issues before were multiple horrible picks. So at least he’s learned that much

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    • bangkokben - Oct 17, 2016 at 10:22 AM

      Look, this game took 46 guys doing their part. The interception was horrible but a couple of things here. One, the Redskins no longer need perfection from the quarterback position to win games. That’s a good thing because it shows how far this team has come. Give some credit to the organization for finally having serious depth. Secondly, even the best QBs are seldom perfect. Look around the league.

      Lastly, for context of the bad plays look also at the good plays we got from the QB position. In 2013 and 2014, a third down was a sure sign of a Redskins punt. Not so anymore. Yesterday’s 3rd down QB plays:

      3rd and 9 at WSH 22

      3rd and 2 at WSH 45

      3rd and 17 at WSH 16
      (6:08 – 1ST) (SHOTGUN) K.COUSINS PASS SHORT RIGHT TO J.CROWDER TO WAS 31 FOR 15 YARDS (N.BRADHAM) [First of two, three-and-outs.]

      3rd and 7 at WSH 13
      (11:54 – 2ND) (SHOTGUN) K.COUSINS SCRAMBLES LEFT END TO WAS 22 FOR 9 YARDS (V.CURRY) [Helluva play. Finally.]

      3rd and 5 at PHI 13

      3rd and 8 at WSH 27

      3rd and 5 at PHI 32

      3rd and Goal at PHI 4
      (0:25 – 2ND) (SHOTGUN) K.COUSINS PASS INCOMPLETE SHORT RIGHT TO D.JACKSON [F.COX]. PENALTY ON PHI-F.COX, ROUGHING THE PASSER, 2 YARDS, ENFORCED AT PHI 4 – NO PLAY [An egregious untimely foul by Cox most likely influenced by Cox never getting close to Cousins.]

      3rd and 8 at WSH 23

      3rd and 11 at PHI 14

      3rd and 2 at WSH 43
      (2:04 – 3RD) (SHOTGUN) K.COUSINS PASS INCOMPLETE SHORT RIGHT [First time since Gran’ts drop that they don’t convert or end up with points.]

      3rd and 13 at PHI 32

      3rd and 8 at WSH 26
      (4:25 – 4TH) (SHOTGUN) K.COUSINS PASS INCOMPLETE SHORT RIGHT [Second three-and-out]

      Of these 3rd downs, Cousins converts 7 of 13. (5 by pass (1 a TD), 2 by penalty, and 1 by scramble.) The Redskins end up with points (two field goals) on two of the six stalled drives. Anyone who thinks that just any QB can do this, either doesn’t watch much football or has a short memory. Is there room for improvement, of course. There are TWO chances for Cousins to convert in the 4th quarter and he converts neither also he didn’t convert any of the three chances greater than ten yards. These are small samples and there are context to these as well. Nonetheless there is room for growth.

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    • John - Oct 17, 2016 at 10:53 AM

      Lighten up on Cousins. He’s still learning, OJT. It takes 3 years of solid playing time before everything clicks. Rogers and Brady were no better at this stage of their careers. At least we have a long term starter. I’d be happy with him being as good as Joey T was back in the day.

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    • Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:25 AM

      This is why I try to never call for people being fired. This is complicated, and the odds of me knowing precisely what the problem was with the defense is very remote. I did call for Bruton to be benched though because he clearly didn’t get it, and I stand by that. He could still contribute on teams though, if he wasn’t on IR. Fired is another matter entirely. People’s families are affected by that and is has to be a last resort.

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    • Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:41 AM

      Regarding Cousins, this is next level QB play he’s being caught in by smart defenders. He is being baited and you can clearly see it in the replays. Like with pressure, perimeter defenders breaking into throwing lanes after the throw is out is almost something he has to learn to feel or anticipate. And it’s not easy because he’s so scheme oriented. He knows in advance exactly when the throw needs to come out, and he can get caught by that sometimes.
      Meanwhile he’s 6th in yards, 6th in completions, 19th in completion % (tied with Wentz), 6th in passing attempts, 10th in TDs and 6th in INTs (tied with Gabbert, Keenum, Manning,Mariota, Newton and Roethlisberger). It’s not great, but also not as bad as the hand-wringers make it appear. It’s still a small sample size at six games. He was slow to get going last year and it turned out OK then. Maybe this year will be the same.

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      • ET - Oct 17, 2016 at 2:08 PM

        “It’s not great, but also not as bad as the hand-wringers make it appear. It’s still a small sample size at six games. He was slow to get going last year and it turned out OK then. Maybe this year will be the same.”

        Seems accurate. There’s a segment of the fanbase that just doesn’t get what Kirk is or can be. For $20 million-ish a year, they’re expecting the Second Coming of Aaron Rodgers. Sorry, kids, that ain’t Cousins, nor is it a reasonable expectation for him. But he is a smart, well-prepared QB who could quite easily be a 2nd tier QB (8th to 16th overall, roughly) for years to come. Surround him with good personnel and learn to live with his streakiness—that’ll put him in a position to succeed.

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        • Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 6:43 PM

          To me this has been really simple all along: He’s good enough to win with, unlike any QB this team has had since Rypien basically. I don’t need elite or Aaron Rodgers. I need good enough to win with.
          Then we can work on improving the coaching and the rest of the team instead of obsessing over QBs, like we’ve done since some time when I had hair.

  6. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:25 AM

    Onwards and upwards!

    Let’s see if we can overcome the game before the London game jinx (teams heading into London are 7-18-1 against the spread).

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  7. Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 8:30 AM

    Without the return and the INT this is a 27-6 demolition. I was happy about the win, but Rich just hammered home that it was also a pretty impressive performance. The two events I just mentioned camouflaged it a bit.

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    • bangkokben - Oct 17, 2016 at 9:42 AM

      Philly showed how a team that can totally suck can still have a puncher’s chance at winning a game. Folks, act as if the Redskins totally sucked and somehow came away with victory. It’s expected from this group. If Matt Jones finishes the last run the score is more accurate to what the game was like.

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      • COSSkinsFan - Oct 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM

        Skins dominated despite the close score. I kept hoping Jones would stop looking over his shoulder because I don’t think they would’ve caught him. Nice to see us win a game without having to win the turnover margin. I’m so optimistic about how our defense played.

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        • bangkokben - Oct 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM

          That’s two games in row being on the wrong side of turnover margin.

  8. goonavybeatarmy - Oct 17, 2016 at 9:17 AM

    34 passes, 33 runs

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  9. renhoekk2 - Oct 17, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    We can’t lose perspective and expect a complete performance like that week in week out. For whatever reason we were able to play both ran and pass defense better than usual, and we were able to run the ball like it was 1983, all in the same game. There have been games where we could not do any of them (PIT). But all that said it was still great to watch, especially living in Eagles country. 4 straight!!

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  10. COSSkinsFan - Oct 17, 2016 at 10:04 AM

    All the numbers Rich noted are really impressive. Every team has weaknesses but this is a good team and they continue to get better and fight til the end. I don’t know the stat, but how many teams have given up a special teams td and pick 6 and still won the game? It’s probably a pretty low number. This shows how resilient we have become. I still think Cousins will hit his stride. I have said, I watched a lot if Cousins at state because I was in Michigan and he used to tear up the wolverines. He had a bad senior year and that’s why he lasted til the 4th round. Had he come out the year before, he would’ve been drafted a lot earlier. The run game improvement should help him, play calling needs to as well. Im not sure why we get so pass happy in the redzone and 3rd and short. Long has been great at center and the whole line has improved with him there. When we put a complete game together we will be dangerous to anybody we play. The defense has been playing so much better, especially on 3rd down and improved tackling, Which I predicted their struggles couldn’t continue. I have been tough on Blackmon as a corner last year, but I think he has been great at safety. Seems like he’s always around a turnover. We gave up a return td but thats was jelped by the refs garbage flag. Other than that our special teams have been stellar. After the Steeler game, I brought up the 91 lions who we beat on opening day 45-0. They only lost 3 more regular season games and we beat them in the nfc championship game. You can recover from a bad opening day loss and it looks like we have. We are seriously gelling. We can’t take the lions or Bengals lightly but I think those games are both winnable. Despite the lost to Dallas, I feel confident we can win our remaining division games. If we do those things that puts us at 9 wins. We also play the bears who have been bad. The other games are tougher but on our current trajectory, resiliency and confidence level none of them look unwinnable. The cards, panthers and pack don’t seem nearly as tough as they did before the season started. We have many reasons to be optimistic.

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    • Skulb - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:28 AM

      The pick sixes are the result of teams, and defenders, watching all the tape on Cuz from last year. They are baiting and trapping him into bad throws and he is having trouble seeing it. On the three last picks an outside corner/LB has stayed close to the sideline before rushing across Cousins’ passing lane for the pick. It’s deliberate and a weakness they have observed in his game. It’s like he has a blind spot or something. I think he’ll get it though. And then was is the NFL going to do about this offense?

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  11. smotion55 - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    They are getting better every week as a team and that is the most impressive outcome of this victory and Fat Rob has sent Jones and the higher ups a message. He is a good running back and should get more reps.

    Rich says they could be 6-2 at the bye ..They have a chance to do that and next week will be even bigger for this team all of a sudden. It feels like the end of last year and finally the NFC East is getting better. Thanksgiving game with Dallas is starting to look a must see already. You just have to love that.

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    • COSSkinsFan - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:48 AM

      Fat Rob is awesome, good to see our run game get going. If we can present a balanced attack we’ll be hard to stop. Hopefully this win will get us some respect. I’m tired of hearing how we are the worst team in the division and have just gotten lucky. We have made our own luck and no one ever mentions we have won the division 2 of the last 4 years.

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  12. lezziemcdykerson - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    ummmm can we run in the red zone though? Most of these dominating stats are about the run game so why abandon it in the red zone?

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    • COSSkinsFan - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:42 AM

      That’s a major issue I have, also getting pass happy on 3rd and short. Yesterday getting the ball at the 4 and passing it 3 straight times. Fletcher Cox bailed us out so we throw it again and it’s incomplete and this is after having success running the ball. We finally give it to Jones and he walks in. Not saying that we need to totally abandon the pass in those situations, but if you can’t get a yard or two on multiple run attempts you don’t deserve to win.

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      • lezziemcdykerson - Oct 17, 2016 at 4:06 PM

        Yeah exactly. I mean at least run to set up the pass or line up in a running formation. Can’t remember all of the formations but it was very obvious we were going to pass as well.

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    • Trey Gregory - Oct 17, 2016 at 2:35 PM

      Agreed. It drives me nuts when we get ckose to the goal line and don’t try a single run. Same with 3rd and short. I’m all for variety and throwing when everyone thinks run from time to time. But also take the runs.

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      • ET - Oct 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM

        Especially now that there’s extra beef up front. I like the occasional deployment of Nsekhe as a TE, too. I think McVay will overcome his red zone / 3rd and short misgivings as this line continues to create opportunities for the run game.

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        • Trey Gregory - Oct 17, 2016 at 3:11 PM

          Yeah maybe McVay just needs to learn to trust the run game again and that will come with time. I don’t know. But I get the feeling Matt Jones will get better and develop a lot more if he gets more reps. Kelley too.

  13. wncskinsfan - Oct 17, 2016 at 11:34 AM

    When it comes to the Skins, I love to stand corrected. I thought for sure this would be an L. Instead, we game planned well for this, and despite a couple of mistakes came away with a division W. Solid. I do think the Iggles penalized themselves into a loss, but that’s what happens when you rattle an opponents cage, mistakes go up. I really like the adjustments in both starters and scheme. I still think maybe we are a bit pass happy on third downs and in the red zone, but I liked seeing some deep balls, that was good! Ecstatic that we came out with no injuries, hope the injury bug doesn’t bite, this team might have a chance at the playoffs. Good game. Satisfying. We can beat the Lions. HTTR!

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