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Poll: Will the Redskins win the NFC East?

Oct 6, 2016, 9:30 AM EDT


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  1. redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:32 AM

    The Redskins need to beat the Eagles twice and the Cowboys in Arlington, Texas four days after having played the Packers to have a chance to win the division. If they don’t do that, the title will go to another NFC team.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:09 PM

      They’re not beating the Eagles twice. We’re not winning the division this year and that’s OK. It would be a step forward to not end up in last place.

      • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM

        I hope you are wrong, but I see where you’re coming from.

        The way I looked at this season, 7-9 would be ~equivalent to last year’s team, 8-8 would be slight progress and 9-7 would be a good year. I thought the Redskins would go 9-7, but I also thought the Redskins defense would be closer to NFL average. I thought that no other NFC East team would be 10-6 or better but I could be wrong on that too.

        • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:05 PM

          I’m curious which NFC East team would only lose five. The Eagles have yet to play a division game, then have Baltimore, Cincinnati, Seattle, Green Bay, Minnesota, and Atlanta. Seriously, they’re going 6-0 in the division and just losing one of those games??! Dallas beat the Redskins when they shouldn’t — that has pretty much been the case for 45 years but the point is that they too are not heads and shoulders better than the division. They’re 1-1 there and are losing at least another one but probably two. Then they have Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Green Bay, and Minnesota, They have the best chance but I expect their typical self-destruction to rear it’s beautiful face. Did we forget how they lost to the Giants? They’re down for one or two more brain farts.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM

        I agree that we are not winning the division. We don’t even have to view the team as taking a step backwards if we end up in 3rd place in the division. There is an infusion of young talent but the team will need at the least a very good draft and FA next season to continue to make strides. Way too many holes to see a bright outlook at this point, but there is some hope things are going in the right direction on overall young talent.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 7, 2016 at 2:42 AM

          Ben, why do the Eagles need to go 6-0 innthe division and then only lose one of those games? I don’t think I’m understanding what you’re saying? If they went 6-0 in the division (and I don’t think they will) then that puts them at 9 wins and that might be enough to win the division. 10 wins is a good bet. I don’t think they’re beating Minnesota but I think Philly could beat any of those other teams. Not that I expect them to. But I can see them winning at least 3 of them. If they split in the division that’s 9 wins. If they sweep anyone that’s 10. And so on.

          I think we should have won the Dallas game but I also don’t agree that Dallas has the best chance to win the division. I like Philly or NY to battle for 1 and 2. Dallas doesn’t have the defense to keep winning all season. Not as of now anyway. Maybe they get better, maybe ours gets better, we shall see.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 7, 2016 at 2:45 AM

          @redskinsname: and we also have to wait for that young talent to develop. As excited as we all are about Cravens, he’s still a rookie playing like a rookie. He has a lot of growing to do still. It’s great to have young talent but they’re not even close to their full potential. At least one more offseason is correct. Probably two. By year 4 we should be confident in the roster. Our winning and losing should be more about who’s playing QB at that point.

  2. chad - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    didn’t think they would repeat before all the injuries. things fell in place last year and we had some luck. harder schedule this year and lack of upgrades makes this a 7-9 year.i been 1 game off either way for the last 5 years straight. had us 8-8 last year. our defense atm couldn’t stop a high school marching band from getting 100 yards rushing.

    • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:00 AM

      That’s a great prediction record!

      It’s very disappointing that the team is so bad at rushing defense given how bad the team was at it last season. There’s been no improvement so far.

  3. sidepull - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:04 AM

    It pains me to say it but NO they will not. Hope they prove otherwise.

    • ET - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:34 AM


      Too much competition this year. The NFC East is no joke this season. The Eagles in particular aren’t living up to our low expectations! But that doesn’t mean the Skins can’t acquit themselves well, particularly in division games.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:29 PM

      I would obviously like them to win the division but I’m not going to be too upset if they don’t. If they at least split with every team in the division, that will go a long way to making me happy. But mostly I want to see progress. To me this season was about seeing the young guys develop and figuring out QB. If we come out of this season with better young players than when we started and with answers at QB while still having excess cap space and draft picks for next year then it was a success.

      Oh, and also an evaluation for our upcoming free agents like Baker. He’s a dangerous guy because he’s really only had one great season but he’s our best defensive lineman. That could be a trap if they’re not willing to let him walk if he has a bad year. We need a better feel for our players across the board.

      • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM

        The problem with letting Baker walk is that there are no other d-linemen that belong on the team. You may have to pay big swaggy more than he’s worth just to run the same defense. Then again, you may want to run a different defense.

      • sidepull - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM

        Agreed. Progress. I think that even Scot and crew did not see them winning the east last season early on. They knew they were rebuilding and not ready to contend. Yet, they won in spite of the speculation early on that they probably would not. I think some feel as though the team won the east that if they dont win it this year it is some kind of negative connotation. Really just make progress, build through the draft, and the offense is able to win games now. Give em time to sort out that D and they can talk about being annual contenders down the road. Right now I just want them to show some fire, be competitive, and ruin somebody elses chance of going to the playoffs. If by chance they strike gold again so much the better.

      • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:59 PM

        To me, it’s crazy to let go of any of our better players: Cousins, Garcon, Jackson, Baker; we need to keep our stronger pieces and strengthen the weaker spots.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 7, 2016 at 2:50 AM

          Go talk to Bill Bellichick. His philosophy, which I think has been proven, is that it’s better to let these guys go a year too early than it is a year too late. Garcon and Jackson will decline sooner than later in my opinion. I don’t want to be stuck holding the bill when they’re no longer our better players.

          Some economists (or something like that) did a study on this too. Obviously with the benefit of hindsight. Their conclusion was it was better to move on too early than too late too. I think the Wal Street Journal recently did a study like this with QBs and concluded teams are too patient and would be better off giving up on guys earlier and keep drafting until they get it right. Basically so you don’t end up in a Jay Cutler type situation. I don’t know that I agree with that, but it’s interesting.

  4. metalman5150 - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Hey – when we started 0-2 I was the first fan to cry, doom & gloom. But they have pulled off two W’s in a row to even the ratio.

    IF Kirk lights this season on fire, then we can overcome some of the other defensive deficiencies.

    But that means that Kirk needs to get his ass in gear, soon!

  5. bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 11:24 AM

    Put me down as a yes the Redskins will win the division. They are just a few tweaks from it becoming a real possibility. As much as everyone wants to crown Philly after three games, here’s why that won’t happen:

    1, Injuries will come
    2. They will start turning over the ball (zero turnovers through three games)
    3. Hardest schedule of the NFC East

    WAS (Carolina and Arizona)
    PHI (Atlanta and Seattle)
    NYG (New Orleans and Los Angeles)
    DAL (Tampa and San Francisco)
    The rest of the schedules are identical — advantage Dallas but they’ll cowboy it up somehow.

    Speaking of schedule and standings, why doe the NFL continue to breakdown the schedule in its archaic way?
    The tiebreakers are head-to-head, division, then common games. The standings should have a common games column. In that case it would look like this: record, division record, common game record.

    PHI 3-0, 0-0, 3-0
    DAL 3-1, 1-1, 2-1
    WAS 2-2, 1-1, 2-2
    NYG 2-2, 1-1, 1-2

    The Redskins control their own destiny.

    • ET - Oct 6, 2016 at 12:45 PM

      I hope you’re right about the Eagles.

      The key in Philly isn’t the lack of turnovers (though that doesn’t hurt), it’s how well their defense has been playing. If the D keeps it up, they don’t need much pizzaz from Carson & Co.

      • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:20 PM

        I harder to play good D when your offense turns the ball over.– especially on your side of the field. So far, untested in that area.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:16 PM

      I think I’m confused at how that was worded. It seems like part of your argument for why Philly isn’t winning is because they have a hard schedule. But you said we would win and we have a harder schedule than NY and Dallas too. I think you could call us and Philly a wash on strength if schcedule. Carolina and AZ are struggling right now but they’re good teams who should get back to winning. Atlanta is playing on fire right now but I don’t necessarily trust them to keep it up. And Seattle doesn’t look great with Wilson’s struggles. But they’re are still Seattle. They’re that same team. I expect Atlanta to get a little worse and Carolina/Az/Seattle to get a little better. That would essentially give us the same schedule as Philly and they already beat one team we lost to.

      • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:33 PM

        I know you’re on the Philly bandwagon and beating Pittsburgh is a big feather in their cap. New York and Dallas do have an advantage with schedule but at this point Washington can take care of business by just winning — even if NY, Dallas, and Philly keep winning. Carolina and AZ are not good teams anymore. Both have questions and their starting QBs are in the concussion protocol on a relatively weak week. They have tough games ahead of them where even at full strength they won’t be favored in. Atlanta could just as well fall back to earth like they did last year but their offense is a good match-up with Philly’s defense. Wilson “stuggled” to 300+ passing yards and 3TDs last week. So as long as he’s in there, I’d give them the benefit of the doubt over the Eagles. Still the big factor is that Gruden is 3-1 against the Eagles — possibly the only team he has a winning record against — and Cousins has had three good games against them as well.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:49 PM

      I wish I could agree with you but I see NO chance of the Skins taking the division. Many teams have slow starts to a season and many have fast starts. You just can’t look at three games and determine who are the good and bad teams on the schedule. Maybe Cousins falls into one of those slow starts but the Giants have the best talent, Cowboys are playing better, and the Eagles look like a legit threat.

      I’m picking the Giants to pull this one out. Maybe the Eagles will come down to earth. Overall, I just don’t see lack of the balance on this team winning the division.

      • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 11:06 PM

        A’ight. It’s not like I feel that strongly about it. If I had to put percentages on who’d win the division, it look like this:
        30% Washington
        27% New York
        23% Dallas
        20% Philadelphia

  6. Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:24 PM

    I have the Giants winning. I think Philly is for real mostly because if their defense. It’s allowing them to ask Wentz to do as much or as little as they want. Little Smallwood doesn’t look half bad either.

    But I can’t completely buy into Wentz or Prescott until I see more. Dak tore up Washington and San Fran… great. Let’s see what happens against some stiffer defenses. Wentz looks like the real deal to me but I am curious as to what happened when he faces some adversity. I’m also curious to see if Elliott hits a rookie wall. If Dak and Elliott slow down, then Dallas’ defense won’t allow them to win. But Philly has a very good D. So do the Giants, and I expect their D to get better as they get more reps together.

    NY has an offense just as explosive as ours but a better defense plus a true franchise QB. They’re the smart money with Philly at #2 and Washington/Dallas fighting for 3rd. I believe Washington finishes 7-9 (I’ve been saying that since this summer) and we will finish at whatever place 7-9 gets us. This team is better than last year but the division overall is better so we will win less.

    • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:16 PM

      Trey, you’ve been consistent in your view — mostly to try to keep the natives from burning down the village if there is indeed a losing season. I will say that it appears that the division is better and the Redskins do appear to be on a collision course for 7-9 BUT there is no way this team is better than last year. The offense isn’t clicking on all cylinders and defense is not playing at the same level as it did last year. Furthermore, bright young spots from last year’s defense (Smith, Breeland, Dunbar, Compton, etc) have not shown the IMPROVEMENT (your word) for this to be considered improved — as it is currently trending. Now if those guys turn it around as well as the offense getting to its 2015 3rd down/red zone form AND the team goes 7-9, then you can say this team did indeed improve. Bur for that result to happen the NFC East will have to continue to improve because as it is right now the four teams are equal.

      • bullets2586 - Oct 6, 2016 at 4:47 PM

        I just hope we part ways with Hall and Bruton after this season. Bruton is a train wreck and Hall to expensive for what we are getting from him. And now coming back from acl, he needs to be gone.

      • ET - Oct 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM

        “Bur for that result to happen the NFC East will have to continue to improve because as it is right now the four teams are equal.”

        Are they all equal? I’d argue all four teams are close, yes. But the Giants and Skins are underperforming and the ‘Boys and Eagles overperforming. Dallas will get a few good players back soon, which may help their cause. But the Eagles D is legit, I think, while the Cowboys are durn lucky and due for a few rude shocks (including this weekend, I hope).

        I expect some reversion to the mean, of course, which means the division could be tight right up until the end. But Philly will still have that defense even when Young Carson has a few bad days. I’m happy to note that NY’s $1 billion expenditure on defense hasn’t saved them from being a boring and listless team, however.

        • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:12 PM

          I too expect reversion to the mean. The Redskins have four starters on IR; the Eagles zero. For a team that is clearly rebuilding that is a key to their success. That is also unsustainable. Their depth hasn’t been tested, their resolve hasn’t been tested. I see no higher than eight wins for Philadelphia. It wouldn’t shock me if Philly beat Detroit like a drum and it wouldn’t shock me if they come down to earth either. I suspect they’ll also lose a player or two to IR as well. (Not wishing ill will; it’s just part of the game.)

          As for underperforming or overperforming, when it comes to division head-to-head matchups, I just throw that out. It may make a difference when playing other opponents, though.

        • mtskins - Oct 6, 2016 at 8:53 PM

          First weak spot in the Eagles team could show up as early as next week and not even due to injury. The ruling on Lane Johnson’s appeal should hopefully come back next week. I don’t expect a the full 10-game suspension to stay intact but he should miss a few games. Hopefully right before their meeting with the Redskins.

          As far as the Division I’m doubling down on my preseason prediction. If Cousins shows up in a big way they can win it. He’s barely showed up to the party and they are 2-2 after sneaking a rare win on the road vs. the Giants. Legitimately should have defeated the Cowboys if he connects on any of those open balls. The defense is in shambles but there is nowhere to go but up on that side of the ball.

  7. Skulb - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    I don’t know if they will win it. But I do know that is full of peculiar people. No matter how much I sorts these stats, Cousins is in the top 20, and in the top ten in most of them:

    Yes somehow manages to once again put Cousins at #23, calling him “replacement level”. Can some Cousins hater please explain this anomaly to me?

  8. bullets2586 - Oct 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM

    Nope. And we won’t even make the playoffs with the way our defense plays

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:07 PM

      Why do so many homers fail to see what you and others see. The defense is abysmal and will not win a division with so many upstart teams to challenge.

  9. lezziemcdykerson - Oct 6, 2016 at 8:48 PM

    Now I want to be the dark horse and say we will. Just to be objective because a quarter in I can’t tell.

    Giants – No one’s down with ODB… not even Mariahhhh and they go back like babies with pacifiers. As much as I preach patience with our team, the Giants are like the exact opposite. Now see we started off slow, still trying to release into our full sprint but we at least got out of our stance. It’s like the Giants shot out of the blocks and got a cramp in their toe at the first turn. Their recovery will really hinge on whether ODB can control his queendom on the field. My coworker and I were just talking about how this GB game can only go two ways. Either the Giants make a statement by forcing ODB the ball (shootout), reinforcing that they’re backing their man or they try that but someone gets in his head and they move on from him (blowout). I don’t see Eli NOT throwing to an open ODB just because of his temper tantrums but maybe they scheme away from him. Have Eli read Cruz’s side of the field first. Remember McAdoo is new and the GM is on the hot seat, I actually don’t think it’s too far fetched that they part with ODB if the issue lingers. Now vogue *sashay shontay*

    Cowboys – Jerruh.

    I really wanted to just leave at that but I’ll expand. Jerry had a fling with some chick 37 years ago and I want to say about 10 years later she revealed to him that they had conceived a son. Now Jerry was so impressed by her keeping it G and not outing his affair, he starts sending money but never really spending time. The woman had married and passed the son off as her husband so she didn’t want to make waves but her secret ate at her. Eating away at Jerry’s southern charm was that he wasn’t taking care of his kid. Jerry suggests, to the mother, signing the kid up for football. Through the years as the kid grows up Jerry snuck to his games and when the kid actually showed promise on the field Jerry’s guilt peaked. Jerry brought the kid in under the guise of needing a back up QB. It was then that Jerry revealed his relationship to no other than Tony Romo, his illegitimate son. Guilt still plagues Jerry, playing a large influence in his management of the team. Tony will be back. Father will be proud, proud is a relative term. But hooray for us. INTs, fumbles and general bad luck is returning just in time for Cousins’ turnaround. Oh what a time.

    Eagles – Is Wentz really this good? Is this shades of Nick Foles or is the guy the real deal? An early bye means he’s got a lot of football ahead of him and we all have same schedules except for 2 games. Hell the way this season is going those two last place teams (or where ever the eggles placed last season) are probably going to be pretty tough matches. ATL and SEA. Not to mention as the season progresses the library of tape on Wentz will expand. People will figure out how to beat them and then it’s open season. I expect a return to Earth for Mr. Wentz, not this week though, I have him in fantasy.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:11 PM

      Did you ever watch Wentz in college?

      • lezziemcdykerson - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:52 PM

        Oh boy… now this was a long post you just replied to, thanks for drying your tears and getting through it. The world can rest knowing you have.

        Nope! But I’ve watched enough professional football to know that the league is going to catch up with him. Especially once he gets into the grind of the season. They’ve had two weak opponents (one could argue we actually faced a better Browns team than he did week 1 due to RGIII being out) and they pounded the Steelers. So it’s like two were mehhhh the other was illmatic.. that’s one hot game every 3 game average. And. That’s. So. LAAAMMME (Hov). But seriously this isn’t college, I’ve seen guys in college look great and play well get to the pros and fall on their face. I’ve seen guys perform well in college but not well enough to be touted as anything worth drafting in the first rd and they turned out to be Tom Brady. If the Eagles defense is for real I’ll give Wentz’s play some legitimacy. Beating up on the Browns and Bears doesn’t really merit a gold star but I’ll give them one for the Steelers game.

  10. wncskinsfan - Oct 6, 2016 at 9:31 PM

    If I don’t even think about the other teams, and just think about how our squad looks so far this year (the eye test), we do not look like a division winner. That being said, nor did we this time last year. But expectations are higher now on account of last years win. Our D just doesn’t look up to the challenge of the schedule as it gets harder, this will put more pressure on the O to produce, hopefully they really get clicking in a consistant manner. The eye test looks pretty good for Philly right now, but I agree that they are basically as of yet, untested. Although they looked pretty good against the Steelers, and we looked like (fill in the blank). Dak is proving to be a bit of a surprise in Dallas. go figure! The Giants, who can every really tell with them? I dunno. I think if we win it, it will be by luck, injuries on other teams, but they eyeball test on us is not good right now, and does not look to improve with our bottom of the barrel D. not starting mocks yet! let’s hope this turns around, HTTR! Archives

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