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Need to Know: Around Redskins Park—’A chance’ that Breeland plays vs. Ravens

Oct 6, 2016, 5:09 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, October 6, three days before the Washington Redskins go up the road to play the Ravens in Baltimore.


Today’s schedule: Joe Barry press conference 12:40; Practice 1:00; Jay Gruden news conference and player availability after practice, approx. 3 p.m.

Days until: Eagles @ Redskins 10; Redskins @ Lions 17; Redskins vs. Bengals in London 24

Notes and quotes from around Redskins Park

—Mason Foster does think there is some level of a rivalry between Redskins and Ravens fans. “Each game is a big game but when you’re playing your next door neighbor in anything it’s big,” he said. “You might see them around, it’s like families are split.”

—Will Compton said that an emphasis in practice has been to get all of the defenders around the ball during a play. “We had more of a sense of urgency today in preaching that when the play ends we should all be in the same frame,” said Compton. “We’re going to get it right.”

—Josh Norman always comes through with a good quote. This is his description of his upcoming matchup with Ravens receiver Steve Smith, who was Norman’s teammate for a season with the Panthers:. “A lion against a lion, a dog against a dog, a beast against a beast.”

—Another one from Norman when asked to describe Smith: “That guy, he’ll take your heart away if you allow him to.

—Jay Gruden was asked if he thought that Bashaud Breeland, who missed the Browns game with an ankle injury, could play against the Ravens. “Oh, yeah, there’s a chance,” he said. “He’s close.”

—New Redskins safety Donte Whitner clearly is still salty about being released by the Browns on April 2, well after he had a chance of getting any type of big or even modest money as a free agent. “Nothing against those guys but the way that they released me and waited so long to do so I feel that they had a personal vendetta,” he said. He also referred to his release as “a slap in the face”. Too bad the Redskins already played the Browns.

—Does Kirk Cousins think his play is getting better? “I just think it’s week to week, it’s day to day,” he said. “I don’t know that you ever say, ‘I’m starting to play well now’ or ‘I wasn’t playing well then.’ I mean, it’s just, who knows. You can win two games in a row, if you lose this week, now it’s, ‘Cousins isn’t playing well and doesn’t know what he’s doing.’ So I just take it one game at a time.”

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Oct 6, 2016 at 6:05 AM

    Good heavens. What is up with Scot and Dlinemen? Does Scot scout any D guys other than DBs? Our front line has been decimated. I agree he has found some great DBs for us. It was a real nice find to bring in Hitner. That will make a huge difference compared to Bruton. That could have been the move of the year. But man, DLine? What is going on?

    Rich, then the question you asked about DLine in Grudens presser and he said we have what we need with DLine, when asked if they were looking to bring more talent in. WTH? Bake, Hood, RJF, Jenkins, Ioannidis, and Lanier… How many have we lost this season compared to last? This line gets gased by the second quarter. Has to be worst in NFL. Then asked about the run and how the line is impacting the run, and we hear once they clear the first level it’s not the lines fault they break big runs. WTH? Is our head coach that one minded on offense that he cannot connect the dots? Or was he just being nice to not call them out? The line is a complete disaster. We were counting on Reyes, Golson, Paea at the start of the season? Wow.

    So if you only have 6 guys that are pretty much cast offs, compared to the league, why put your smallest of the 6 in the middle of the line?

    How do we get Spaight on the field? I think he and Comp would be better.

    Hope Hitner was up until 1-2 am studying the playbook like he said he would. We need him on Sunday.


    • garg8050 - Oct 6, 2016 at 6:29 AM

      The only logical explanation is that there aren’t any decent d-line man available, not as free agents, not on anyone else’s practice squad. They must be thinking, let’s shore up the safety position, let’s have safeties that can play the run and actually make tackles.

      I would still like to see them go to a 4-3 on first downs. Having another big body on the field has to be an advantage against the run, doesn’t it? Certainly couldn’t hurt.

      • colorofmyskinz - Oct 6, 2016 at 6:47 AM

        Agreed. I like the 4-3 on first. There were opportunities well before the season started. Hope for the best.

      • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM

        We have gone with a 4-man front on first down multiple times. But it’s not necessarily more beef. It’s the same 7 guys in a different alignment.

    • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 6:50 AM

      In Scot I still trust, but there’s no doubt that McCloughan needs a new / different “advisor” on FA defensive selections. Jeron Johnson, Chris Culliver, Stephen Paea, Kendall Reyes and David Bruton were immediate busts which tells you: it’s not working. Still, at least Pot Roast, Dashon Goldson, RJF and Hood have made contributions if not to the level we would like.

      Despite these poor selections, there’s no doubt that the roster is much better since McCloughan has come. He’s done more positive GM moves than anyone since Bobby Beathard.

      Pouncing on Galette and Norman were great. Nsekhe was a huge find if Tyler Larson and Cody Booth were not (don’t know if he deserves credit for that) and Hopkins was plain and simple a game changer. The early returns on 2015 draft class are incredibly strong.

      I do regret that we did not resign Christine Michael, but RB options are among the most plentiful.

      I don’t know if we ever made a play on Safety Iloka; I felt that should have been done.

  2. redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 6:25 AM

    Do you think Cravens will be able to play this Sunday? How is he feeling?

    How much does Whitner have left in the tank and will he be an upgrade? Will Whitner be able to start at safety this weekend alongside Ihenacho or does he need more time?

    Why did Redskins hold onto Hall, Bruton and Phillips as the solution for so long; was it Fewell, Barry or Gruden making that call. I wonder when serious internal discussions started among them and Scot McCloughan about our safeties aren’t going to cut it? If they waited until the injuries, I’m in total shock.

    • mtskins - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:39 AM

      Whitner and Ihenacho are both strong safeties. Barring something unexpected they shouldn’t ever be playing alongside one another. Evans was brought in because he can supposedly play both strong and free safety. Whitner is a long time vet and doesn’t seem too concerned about learning the coverages and schemes.

      I’d look for Ihenacho and Blackmon to start with Whitner and Evans backing them up with potentially a quick hook for Ihenacho if he struggles. They don’t seem to want Everett to log snaps at the position.

      • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:13 PM

        Thanks. I thought free and strong safeties are more fungible terms these days, but appreciate the clarification.

        I’m told Blackmon is going to struggle as much as Hall (i.e., Blackmon really can only play CB, nickel back and special teams) so I hope Evans can start soon.

        Can Cravens play free safety? If not, we need to look for another free safety and may need to release another DB to do that.

        • mtskins - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:21 PM

          I should correct myself. There are other sub packages were they could run three safeties or team them together. But as far as base packages and the strengths and weaknesses of Whitner and Ihenacho I wouldn’t expect the team to pair them together.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 5:40 PM

          Cravens is not a free safety. I mean, he could play free safety in the same way Reed could play tackle. You could line them up there in an emergency but they’re not made for it and it’s a bad idea. Cravens is too slow.

          I think he’s questionable to even be a SS. I think they got it right in that he’s a nickel linebacker and can occasionally play SS in that kind of Monster position role.

          A lot of us wanted to see Cravens at SS because our SS were just that bad and he appears to be a playmaker. But we should give Whitner a shot and keep our LB depth in tact if possible. There’s also not a huge difference between nickel LB and SS depending on what the offense does. Every now and then cravens might have to matchup in a WR. We just shouldn’t make a habit of it.

    • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM

      When you give a guy a job, you give the guy a chance to succeed. After all, it was your decision and you have your judgement under scrutiny. I believe I said after week 1 that I thought they’d give it four games before making a change. No surprise here. The coaches have a lot on the line and they didn’t go “eeny-meany” in making their decision. They weighed in all of OTAs, training camp, and the preseason. So there was no chance they were just going to throw their hands up after a game or two and say it’s not working let’s get so-and-so in there.

      As to who is making the decisions and how much influence everyone has, that is the riddle. So many times, I see Gruden or Barry get blamed for Bruton, Philips, or Reyes or whoever gets snaps (Jones and Morris last year). I have a hard time believing that either men are micromanaging the snaps. And what in the hell is the role of the position coaches on game day? I’d like to think that they have a responsibility of their units and on some of those units keeping guys fresh is part of the process.

      Then there’s McCloughan. How much influence does he have on the active roster and getting guys snaps? Last year Jeron Johnson couldn’t sniff the field but McC signed him. There’s year, you couldn’t drag Bruton off the field and McC signed him. Then what is the point of keeping Lanier and Everette if they don’t have a shot at getting on the field?

      Bottom line: there is blame to go around and most the time we as fans don’t have a clue as to who deserves the most.

      • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM

        Well said.

        In the case of Bruton, Phillips or Reyes, what stood out is the degree to which they under-performed. There’s “just a guy,” there’s back-up level, there’s just below back-up level and then there’s no clue / totally outclassed. So, for comparison purposes, Smith is not doing well but he still is making basic contributions even if his form dips on some plays.

        In a year the Redskins needed to get off to a strong start, the play of Bruton, Phillips and DHall has been costly. The loss to Steelers and Cowboys was not just on them obviously (Kirk, many others on team started off too slowly), but we’re talking three / four games of sub-par performances.

        • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:49 PM

          Yep, and had others (Cousins, Smith, and Kerrigan) played better perhaps their performances aren’t so glaring. I think after four games — even without injury — changes were coming. Ihenacho got snaps against New York but didn’t replace Bruton until the injury and it seems they’d rather have Whitner than Duke. The fact is we will never know why the trigger was too slow for us but I think what I put out there as speculation was reasonable. These guys have been working together for a long off season that a terribly poor performance in back to back weeks is concerning but it’s different for a guy who comes in and is bad and a guy who’s been “proving” himself to the team for several months. Trenton Robinson got several weeks before he was replaced last year. LeRibeus was never replace by De La Puente.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM

          I really think Ben is right here. I don’t think it’s actually that big of a mystery as to why Bruton and Phillips kept starting. We have bad player across the board and they felt Phillips and Bruton gave us the best chance of winning while recognizing that they were playing poorly. They could have seen them both look god awful in OTAs and then slowly get better while Fuller and Ihenacho slowly got worse. They could have been hoping that improvement would keep going. But 3 games isn’t a ton of information to use vs. an entire offseason.

          Ihenacho has gotten a lot of starting reps over the years and was never really a good player. I think we know who he is and they wanted to see if Bruton could put it all together. Fuller might be a very good player someday but maybe they didn’t think he was ready. No need to throw Fuller to the wolves before he’s ready. It’s not Super Bowl or bust.

          I do believe that young players develop fastest through actual game reps. However, I also believe there’s a point they need to reach before they play. Or take regular snaps. Some guys get there in camp. Some guys it takes a few games. Others it takes a whole year. Others never get there. But I think you can end up doing more harm than good if you play them before that point. I think multiple 1st round QBs have been ruined because of starting too early and if their team would have just sucked up the losses for a season or two they could have had their next franchise QB winning them games for a decade. RG3 for example. So I’m not going to get upset with them for holding out Laneier, Fuller, Doctson, Cravens, Spaight, Kelley, Ioannidis, Kouandjo, or any other young guys. They’ll play when they’re ready. And I care a lot more about 2018 than I do 2016.

  3. garg8050 - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:01 AM

    This defense is clearly lacking in talent, there’s no questioning that. But I do think the defense could be more aggressive. There should definitely be more gang tackling. That’s what struck me the most watching the Vikings on Monday night. That defense is fast and aggressive, their d-line man are chasing screen passes from behind. I’d like to see that sort of aggression from our defense.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:25 PM

      Yes yes yes. This is really a huge issue. Smith is driving me nuts with how he quits on plays if the ball isn’t near him instead of hustling to the ball. He’s not the only one but I’ve noticed it the most with him and he’s supposed to be a star.

      I’ve been a big Murphy supporter but I noiticed some of that from him too. Say what you want about Kerrigan, but he generally keeps going until the whistle blows. I feel like Baker does too but I’ll keep a closer eye on it next game.

      These guys have to finish and find ways to get back into plays. It’s frustrating enough to see a guy miss on an arm tackle but it’s even worse when help is standing there with his hands on his hips 4 feet away. If they all just assume that they’ll miss the first 2 tackles then maybe they’ll all keep running tothe ball until the guy is down. Shouldn’t be too much to ask.

  4. redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:01 AM

    First quarter review of tenoff-season questions

    1. Has Matt Jones’ ball security sufficiently improved?

    A : So far so good

    2. Who is the back-up center (in case Lichtensteiger, who missed 11 games last season needs to be replaced)?

    B : Went with Long, but because of not only Lichtensteiger’s health but the health of Lauvao (b/c Long is G / C) and Long too, they’ve brought in Sully. Gave other players a chance.

    3. How well is the defensive line and safeties playing?

    D- : Defensive line play is ineffective / sub-par for the most part (see 8 below for more details) with safeties unacceptable (see 10 below). The list of players brought in that have not delivered is long. Focusing on the positive, Hood and sometimes RJF are contributing; brought in two safeties yesterday: Whitner and Evans

    4. Who are the best special teams performers? Which rookies / UDFAs / young players performed well enough to earn a roster spot?

    Everett earned roster spot. Here is who has had the most ST snaps:

    Bates 81%, Garvin 62%, Paul 61% (ST captain), Everett 57%, Murphy 57% (expected to get more defensive snaps), Foster 50%, Cravens 47% (expected to get more defensive snaps), Blackmon 47%, Hopkins 43%, Dunbar 39%, Ihenacho 37%, Nsekhe 32%, Toler 31%, Bruton 30% (IR), Way 29% and Sundberg 29%.

    5. How healthy are the expected key contributors? Are they in game shape for the season opener?

    Most healthy although lost Galette before season started and now Breeland, Cravens, Doctson, Kerrigan and Lauvao are trying to get back on the field. More damning, team was unprepared for start of season (miscues, penalties, missed assignments especially marred the first two games of season.)

    6. Will the Redskins get better results when playing teams with winning records?

    Too early to tell but lost decisively to Steelers.

    7. By how much did Washington’s rushing attack improve?

    A so far: They were 30th last season – 3.7 yards per attempt; now at 4.4 yards. Excellent if they can finish the season at 4.2 or 4.3 with no fumbles.

    8. By how much did Washington’s rushing defense improve?

    F so far: They were 31st last season — 4.8 yards per attempt; they’re at 4.9 so far. From WaPo (primarily Mike Jones): “The [Redskins] linemen struggle to get off blocks and clog running lanes no matter where they’re lined up. Other [teams’] defensive linemen do. Far too often, offensive linemen are able to move the Redskins to the side, or off the line. There’s not a great push from the Redskins. [In nickel package,] they aren’t good enough up front to make up for missing the extra defender consistently and the safeties aren’t quick enough to work from 15 yards deep to fill in at the line of scrimmage.

    The other problem Washington had, which was perhaps its biggest, was tackling. [In the Browns game alone, there were at least 18 missed tackles per Cooley.]

    I see these guys do tackling drills in practice, they spend hours on it, and in the film room, breaking down mistakes and talking about how to correct it. The stuff isn’t translating into games, however, and part of that has to do with physical limitations, unfortunately.

    Chris Baker is a nice piece, but it’s too easy to double up on him when you don’t have anyone else that scares you. Their pass-rushers have been solid, but not dominant.

    The guys on the field have to do a better job of executing, and if they can’t, then you’re stuck with the same old results. Most likely, the run defense won’t get any better until next year, once the front office decides to seriously invest in the line [and safeties], whether through free agency, the draft, or both.”

    9. What expectations should Redskins fans have for the playoffs?

    Loss to Dallas hurt … need to win minimum two out of three next games; moreover fans are concerned about team’s ability to tackle, stop opponents in making 3rd down conversions and improve in run defense (see 8 above).

    10. What great adjustments have Scot McCloughan and Jay Gruden made since the draft?

    Too early to tell: Cutting Riley, Paea and Reyes; shelving Bruton, Hall and Lichtensteiger; bringing in Jenkins, Sullivan, Witner and Evans. The fact that injuries forced Bruton, Hall and Phillips off the field is very disturbing as their play was hurting the team more than helping. Fuller, Blackmon or Breeland are expected to fill in at nickel while Ihenacho, Witner, Evans and potentially Cravens are “take 2” on safety. Expect improvement as the team had no where to go but up, but even if they don’t, at least the team is trying to improve! #HTTR

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 6, 2016 at 7:32 AM

    Don’t stare down your primary receiver, Kirk…look off the D.

  6. sidepull - Oct 6, 2016 at 8:11 AM

    The game within the game. Norman vs Smith. Now that will be fun to watch. I am so glad they got Norman this off-season. He is a bright spot on the defense, gives the Redskins a blue chip player. Its something to look forward to with the defense. I cant imagine how this defense would look without him.

    I would like to see some other players get some playing time, Spaight for one. I know Compton is smart, make the calls. Spaight, he can tackle at least. More Cravens.

    This defense, other than Norman, lacks an identity, is viewed as soft (maybe thats the identity) and teams are not scared to try them on 4th down let alone 3rd. Miss K Jarrett. Now that guy would have helped some. I know we have no DL aside from Baker and no help is coming. For what its worth Hatcher would have been better than some of what I have seen. KR was let go four games too late. Hope the gang tackling works and the sooner I see Whitner lay somebody out legally, the happier I will be.

    • ET - Oct 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM

      Hatcher, when he was healthy, was still a respectable lineman even in his elder years. I wish we’d had him a few seasons sooner.

      • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:10 PM

        He was a very good player who could have really helped if not for those knees.

  7. redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Cooley feels Redskins would benefit from hurry up, 3 TE sets and running wide. Ravens are tough D; will disrupt shallow crosses / underneath routes and stop inside runs. They will key Cousins eyes so he must look off routes.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM

      That’s hard to argue with. But there are some things to consider.

      Generally I would like the offense to slow down and take longer to keep our D off the field. This is an away game and we may have a hard time communicating the play in the hurry up. We’ve also had a ton of presnap penalties. Those tend to go up on the road in the hurry up.

      We could accomplish a lot running the ball like crazy and taking our shots off good play action and if they stack the box. We really only need 2-3 big plays from DJax to get to the Redzone 2-3 times. Baltimore has a good pass rush and I wouldn’t want Cousins to drop back too many time and get exposed to that. Sacks will kill us.

      But so will INTs. Cooley is dead right that Cousins is staring down receivers and has to stop. It hasn’t bitten him too bad because the passes come out so fast but teams are surly seeing it and will take advantage. The more Cousins drops back to pass the greater a chance for an INT. Jones needs to run hard from the start, not just the 4th, and we need our new O-line with Williams,Lauvao, and Long to get a good push.

      But if the run game doesn’t get going then, sure, go for the hurry up. Quick strikes to Reed and Crowder then hit Djax when the coverage shifts up. If communication and penalties aren’t an issue then hurry up sounds pretty good to me as long as we go the length of the field and score. If we go 3 and out in 1 min then our defense will get smoked.

      • redskins12thman - Oct 7, 2016 at 6:51 AM

        Good points. Perhaps it should be “no huddle” and taking time with snapping the ball… kind of like the way the 49ers run their offense (albeit with better OL production and minus the turnovers).

  8. renhoekk2 - Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    The only quality 3-4 DL FA that switched teams in 2016 was Malik Jackson and he got huge money. ($90m). Most everyone else re-signed with their own teams or were on the wrong side of 30. Who else was out there that was willing to switch teams and was a good fit scheme wise? Maybe Snacks Harrison? There were no “solutions” out there in FA. And don’t say Pot Roast because it wasn’t any better last season.
    There were several years of poor drafting before Scot McCloughan showed up here. A disproportionate amount of draft picks that never saw a second contract. Those guys should be making a good sized percentage of the current roster, but they are not here. In a salary cap league the only way to fix that problem is with inexpensive FA on short term deals. If they are cheap and available there is a reason for that. I know Redskins fans are used to the the Snyder fable that Redskins FA signings are the solution to all of our problems. Most of McCloughan’s FA signings are meant to be placeholders until he drafts the real solutions. It will take probably another two drafts to fix all of the roster problems he inherited. These guys he’s bringing in are not “difference makers” that are going to have a huge impact on the performance of the team. You just hope they are adequate enough to keep the team competitive. Not all of them were. That’s the way it goes when you have to shop from the bargain bin.

    • bangkokben - Oct 6, 2016 at 11:07 AM

      Exactly. I’m not sure how long it will take to fix the d-line, it needs one guy with major talent and if that guy is not available or too expensive it will take more of the same thing.

    • ET - Oct 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM

      You make some excellent points regarding free agency and the available talent pool. And Scot did find some decent mid-tier / depth players in Hood and RJF. They both should be depth guys, not key starters—and looked at in the proper perspective, they’re doing a reasonable job (in Hood’s case, arguably exceeding expectations slightly).

      That still leaves the draft, however. Yeah, we know Scot has lots of holes to plug, but one pick out of 17 spent on the DL (seven picks this year, 10 in 2015) just doesn’t cut it, particularly when the position group was largely overlooked by the previous regime as well. Scot can blow BPA propaganda up the fans’ arses all he wants—a team still needs competent players in every position.

      • renhoekk2 - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:45 PM

        I can’t really argue with his picks. Scherff is playing great. P Smith is a front 7 guy and plays an impact position. You need to draft for those positions because FA are high priced. Not thrilled with M Jones pick but RB in the 3rd round is a respectable choice. Crowder was a steal in the 4th. Aie Kouandjio not a bad selection either. Spaight looks like a player when healthy. Jarett also looked really good before he got hurt. Mitchell, Spencer and Reiter all got picked off the Practice Squad.
        Doctson would be a great pick if he was healthy and we needed to address WR with two 30 something FA on the roster. Again a premier impact position that costs big money in FA so you better find them in the draft. Cravens looks very good, Fuller can play and was drafted before Norman was signed so it’s easier to say we could have gone DL, but they were looking to find someone opposite Breeland at the time. You could have drafted DL with the 4th rd pick but are they an impact player in the 4th rd. Ioannidis might just need a year to learn the NFL game and could help. You should not expect a 5th rd pick to start and have an impact in his rookie season.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 7, 2016 at 2:08 AM

          Ren, a lot of what you’re saying is dead on. But Norman was signed before the draft. I remember very specifically because I tweeted out that WR just became a huge need after we signed Norman (due to DJax/Garcon being unlikely to get new contracts after 2016 because Norman’s deal) and nobody should be shocked if we draft a WR in the first round. But you can also just go back and look at the articles and compare the dates.

          Also, I guess I could be wrong but I don’t think Spencer was signed from our practice squad was he? I’m a little iffy on how all this works but I thought they either put him on IR or gave him and injury settlement and outright cut him. But I don’t know if people can claim draft picks off IR…. so maybe someone can shed some light on that. I want to say they can’t but I feel like that’s how we lost Mitchell. Either way, Spencer doesn’t appear to be a guy who will ever be a good NFL player. Which is fine, we don’t need to get upset about 6th and 7th round picks. They’re all long shots.

          Nobody should expect any draft pick from any round to contribute right away. That’s a good rule of thumb. But people do because they’ve seen it so many times. You’re absolutely correct that we shouldn’t expect that from a 5th though. What makes it hard is that 2016 was billed as a great defensive line draft. Particularly interior linemen. It wasn’t just the media “experts” saying that. Even actual NFL GMs said they thought they could find immediate help in the later rounds because it was so deep. There were good players left on the board when we passed on the 4th round. Guys who maybe could have helped this D-line this year. Maybe. But even if they couldn’t they would be developing and could probably help next year. So people assumed we skipped the 4th because Scot thought he could still find a good D-linemen in the 5th. Then we find out Ioannidis looks so bad that he may never actually help this team. That’s a hard pill to swallow. Wether it’s right or wrong, that’s how people feel. They view Ioannidis as that 4th round pick we passed on.

          All your other points were excellent though. Time. These things take time. That’s the only thing that’s going to fix our problems and all the complaining in the world won’t make it any better.

      • Trey Gregory - Oct 7, 2016 at 2:23 AM

        I don’t think you can look at the draft by position group. I think you have to look at the individual players. Have you ever gone back and looked at old drafts from just a couple years ago to see the players either we or other teams passes on? It’s a really good exercise to clarify this. If you go 3-5 years back chances are you forget what most team’s needs were. You’ll probably remember ours, but not the Saints or Chargers. So then look at who they took and who they passed on. It will make you sick. I’m convinced it’s pointless to trade up in the draft. Someone will screw up, reach, and a great player will fall to you. Ask the Jets how they got the best player in the draft, Leonard Williams, with the 6th overall pick. Or how Greenbay got Aaron Rogers. How Seattle got Wilson. How Houston got Watt. How the Rams got Aaron Donald (and they even blew a pick BEFORE they picked him!).

        If you start looking at need too hard then you pass on JJ Watt and Aaron Donald for someone like Blane Gabbert and Jake Locker (both drafted before Watt) or Jake Mathews, Justin Gilbert, and Eric Ebron (all selected before Donald). Some of them aren’t bad, but they’re not great. We could have had Watt too BTW. But we traded with jacksonville so they could draft Gabbert and we got Kerrigan. I love Kerrigan, but he’s not Watt. I’m a big believer in just staying out and taking the best guy available. There wasn’t a position group on this team that didn’t need an upgrade or that won’t by next year.

    • redskins12thman - Oct 6, 2016 at 2:27 PM

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