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Need to Know: Redskins vs. Browns by the numbers—Reed the fastest TE to 200 catches

Oct 3, 2016, 5:20 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, October 3, six days before the Washington Redskins go up the road to play the Ravens in Baltimore.


Today’s schedule: Jay Gruden news conference 3 p.m., on CSN and

Days until: Redskins @ Ravens 6; Eagles @ Redskins 13; Redskins vs. Bengals in London 27

Redskins 31, Browns 20 by the numbers

—Sunday’s fourth-quarter come from behind win was the fifth of Kirk Cousins’ career, more than any Redskins quarterback since Mark Rypien.

—Cousins 183 yards passing were the fewest he has had in a game since becoming a full-time starter and the fewest in any game he started and finished since Week 17 of the 2013 season.

—Jordan Reed caught nine passes for 73 yards. In doing so he caught his 200th career pass. He has reached 200 career catches faster than any tight end in NFL history, 38 career games. Kellen Winslow reached 200 catches in 39 games.

—Running back Matt Jones had a career high 22 rushing attempts and his 112 rushing yards were the most he has had in a game since Week 2 of the 2015 season.

—Trent Murphy got a sack of Cody Kessler, his fourth of the year, setting a career high.

—The Redskins forced and recovered two fumbles. They now have forced 29 fumbles since the start of the 2015 season and recovered 20. Both totals lead the NFL during that time.

—The Redskins scored touchdowns on four of their five trips to the red zone. Coming into the game they had scored only three touchdowns after entering the red zone all year.

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Oct 3, 2016 at 6:32 AM

    Well what a great game!! There are some very notable takeaways. I though Long looked great and is clearly much better with blocking than Kory. Light years better. Arie held his own and when in the play looked great. He missed a few blocks, but for the most part looks better than Lauvao. And imagine that, we were a rushing team yesterday. Kory and Lauvao out Long and Arie in. Jones looked great!! Thompson great! Anyone that would have got behind that line would have looked great.

    We needed that upgrade more than ever. And then notice how the offense worked when the running worked. Like magic.

    Great to see Reed come alive! Norman recovered with INT.

    We still have major issues with stopping the run up the middle. You could drive a truck through the middle of our DLine. We will suffer from that all year without a run plugger. We managed it but it looked like a major hole.

    A great win! HTTR!

    • redskins12thman - Oct 3, 2016 at 6:57 AM

      I’m glad you feel Long was better and Arie looked great but are you sure he’s better than Lauvao or Long at guard? Arie has a number of holding calls too. Keep in mind, our opponent was the Browns and not the Ravens.

      It was a win, but not the sort that inspires confidence that the Redskins will win two out of the next three games which they need to do. The only saving grace for the defense is that, as Rich notes, it’s been opportunistic at the end of the last two games, recovering key turnovers, but that’s the only good thing that can be said about the defense.

      The Good
      – I’m glad we got a win, the offense was good as a whole. I’m okay with Cousins lower production
      – Great running / passing balance — this defense needs a good running attack as much as anyone.
      – On one touchdown, Cousins extended the play by moving out of the pocket when facing pressure. Why doesn’t he do that more often to avoid sacks / hurries.
      – Norman struggled the first half but had a great second half.
      – Murphy continues to make an impact!
      – Browns’ turnovers saved Redskins.

      The Bad
      – The Redskins poor run defense and Cousins’ interception made that game much more of a challenge than it needed to be.
      – I was also disappointed at how little pressure, and even offensive line holding calls, the Redskins defense generated
      – Phantom penalty call on Scherff for 2nd week in a row?
      – I thought Fuller played well in the nickel which makes me wonder what Coaches saw in Phillips
      – How serious are Kerrigan’s and Cravens’ injuries?
      – Has the NFL said “bow and arrow” is illegal? I sure hope so or that was a tough call.

      The Ugly
      – That’s some of the worst tackling by the Redskins that I’ve ever seen. 2nd straight year of poor tackling. It’s just a living nightmare.
      – The Redskins defense seemed unprepared for the game — we knew the Browns would run the ball and we still couldn’t stop it
      – Safeties weren’t tested by Browns but Bruton looked awful yet again.
      – We need some changes on defense either coaches or players or both. Ideas anyone?

      Next Sunday
      – The Raiders showed it can be done, but they brought it in a way I don’t see the Redskins bring it.
      – Baltimore’s defense is more aggressive and will be ready to stop our run attack.
      – The Ravens go-to play seems to be the intermediate pass, with some long balls — Smith, Wallace and Pitta will be primary threats — but I don’t blame anyone for running against the Redskins.
      – If Redskins defense does not learn to stop the run, we are screwed. West will have a field day.
      – On offense, we must continue with balance and run outside of tackles too.
      – Devin Hester is still a very good returner; he will return the ball even when it is kicked very deep into the end zone; he does carry the ball loosely but you have to catch him first.
      – The Redskins must play very close to mistake free football or they have no shot against Ravens

      The Redskins shouldn’t have lost to the Cowboys at home, and now must “make” that game up by beating the Ravens. Can they do it?

      • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:06 AM

        I didn’t see fuller do much- probably should go back and watch his snaps if i can. Curious what cooley thinks of his play.

        Our defense can’t stop the run, we knew this in the summer, we couldn’t stop it last year and we “lost” hatcher and knighton and picked up reyes. That’s not changing until we get new dlinemen. I like cravens but i did see one run play where he was blocked by a pulling guard… 225 pounds against a 330 pound guard that’s a tough matchup for him…i still like the idea of him at safety.

        • redskins12thman - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:26 AM

          Fuller’s play wasn’t great, I just that it was passable (low 7s or high 6s) compared to Phillips. For a team that couldn’t tackle, Fuller was 2nd on the team and 1st in terms of solo tackles.

          The run defense is not just about D-lineman is it? I think they’re needs all over. I haven’t seen a tackle so poorly this season.

      • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 9:18 AM

        no i agree run d isn’t just dline for sure- but it’s hard on the backers when u have rushers flying through with a full head of steam.

        That said their RB Crowell was awesome… sure matt jones had a great game for matt jones, but to me there was a clearly visible difference in talent between him and Crowell.

        • ET - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:07 AM

          Crowell did look great, but how much of that was our front seven’s fault? (Really, I’m not sure.)

          I saw Smith, Murph and Foster all make some good run stops and/or contain the run, but it seemed like the DL wasn’t holding its own more often than not. Gotta say I’m kinda bummed about Will Compton right now. He seems less sure of himself and slower to the ball than the end of last season. The interior ‘backers are looking average at best (as many people predicted). Cravens had some moments, but I did see him get waylaid by Cleveland’s OL, too.

  2. chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:00 AM

    Good win- mcvay went to the 3 step
    drop quick throws heavy game plan, which seems to fit
    kirk the best. It also seemed that there was a lot more space underneath, it looked like the browns defense didn’t follow the steelers blueprint of crowding in short zones- i didn’t see much 3 man rush 8 man drop.

    Koundjo didn’t stand out, which to me suggests he had a good game. I thought we neglected djax too much, but with a reed focus and a successful run game that’s understandable.

    Great play by norman to seal the deal- i was skeptical of his big money deal, he has
    been worth every penny.

  3. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:20 AM

    The Ravens benched RB Justin Forsett and started Terrance West.

    West had 113 yards and a TD on 21 carries.

    You can bet your bottom dollar that the Ravens are well aware of how much success teams have had running against us this year.

    • Mr.moneylover - Oct 3, 2016 at 9:44 AM

      No question …its gonna be a easy day for the Ravens and joe flacco …the secondary could have more INTs but the front seven cant do they job will compton not shouting out calls loud enough and he cant get off blocks hes a under size LB that has speed… if martrell spaight can stay healthy he will be a better fit for the LB postion then Will Compton…if guys feel they can miss assignments then you gonna get bad results…I think redskins will only make changes during they bye week like they did last year

  4. troylok - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:47 AM

    This might sound crazy but it seems like this defense could benefit from swapping the positions of the OLB’s and ILB’s. A little more beef up the middle might help shut down running games and little more speed on the outside could help with the pass rush. Since the only guy on the defensive line that doesn’t get shoved around is Chris Baker, they need to put him back in the middle. If they want to be successful, they absolutely need to shut down the run.

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 3, 2016 at 7:55 AM

      I have been asking to move Baker into the center all year. It would be the best use of our talent. Baker is a much better DT than he is a DE. He would never make a DE position on a team with real DEs. The only reason he is DE for us is because our Dline talent is so horrible. Worst Dline in years. We need to move him inside if we want to fix this problem this year. Or we could let him play the position he “wants” to play like others suggest – not. That is crazy. And Moses wants to try TE because he likes that position better too… I would place Bake in the middle today to start to get ready now.

      • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 12:24 PM

        You think you’re being a smart ass but really you’re just showing how little you actually understand. The main reason people want Baker at DE is not because he wants to play there. It’s because, in reality, he’s a significantly better DE than he is a DT. You can keep saying he’s a better DT but the stats and facts suggest otherwise. Baker was a largely mediocre DT and he broke out as a DE last year. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact.

        Baker was actually ranked very high at DE last year. Like 16th in the league or something. So if there’s 32 teams with 2 DEs on each team then…. carry the 1…. Yup. He would start on most teams in the league at DE.

        People bring up what he wants because keeping people happy does affect how well they play. It’s a secondary reason.

  5. sidepull - Oct 3, 2016 at 8:18 AM

    Ok a win!

    TDs instead of FG’s for the most part.

    Reed is just a beast. I remember having concerns about his ability to stay on the field. That sure has changed. He is really good.

    Matt Jones is making me for get about Alf. He is tough too. He has taken some shots the past couple weeks.

    I read a lot of Murphy is a bust comments for quite some time but he is looking pretty good right now. Happy to see him improving.

    Josh Norman is worth every penny.

    I think Josh Norman is being targeted by the refs. I can see this eventually leading to huge fines or an ejection. Its B.S.. Yea bow and arrows kill people. I see it all the time on the news.

    This is by far, to me, the worst Redskin team I have seen trying to tackle anybody. They cannot get anybody to the ground. It is pitiful. It is glaring, gaping holes, arm tackling, whiffs….I dont know how much longer they can get bailed out by turnovers. But thank goodness for the turnovers.

    I still am not convinced regarding Cousins. My chief complaint has been consistency, the good Kirk bad Kirk labels.
    Maybe that’s what I keep seeing he is consistently going to look great then just do things that are going to set the team back, who takes that sack? That interception to give em a short field? Or he throws the pick in the red-zone..its always when there’s pressure I used to say but sometime there is no pressure and he still gets froggy, I am looking for him to perform and he craps the bed. I just dont know what too think. I really want Kirk to be the franchise but is he? Too soon to tell I guess. I hope he gets mentally tougher because he has enough of the physical skills to pull it off. Besides the way the defense is playing they need to outscore opponents.

  6. RuddyJamesDIO - Oct 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    OMG can we please get off the field on 3rd downs???!!!! It doesn’t matter who we rush we do not put any pressure on the QB…its pathetic. I don’t know what’s worse our run defense or our pass rush?

    Great effort Matt Jones, Jordan Reed ………great second half Josh Norman.

    Get DJax the ball more please!! HTTR!!!!!

  7. bangkokben - Oct 3, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    The Redskins are forcing turnovers not the beneficiaries of poor play. Three 2nd half points this week and six last week. The complaints about the defense are like complaining that leopards have spots or that lions are meat eaters. Every weakness known about the defense this offseason has EXPECTEDLY manifested this season. So what? We knew the offense would have to out score the opposition and the defense would have to force takeaways. Two weeks in a row check and check. That’s how this team wins by OVERCOMING its weaknesses. There are no fixes for the weaknesses but there are ways to win WITH them. And there is room for improvement with the strengths. The stronger the strengths get the less significant the weaknesses will be.

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 3, 2016 at 10:03 AM

      There is a simple fix. Move Baker to the inside.

    • COSSkinsFan - Oct 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM

      Great points, our weaknesses were predictable. All teams have weaknesses and you just have to play through them. The surprises to me which have cost us have been Kirk’s inaccuracy and some of his bone headed mental errors. The good news is I think the accuracy has been a bad streak and the mental errors hopefully can be corrected. We knew the run d would be bad. I still wish we would resign pot roast, not because he’s an all pro but because he wouldn’t be our worst dline man. The surprise on defense to me has been how horrible we are at 3rd and long. It seems teams maybe better off just taking a knee on 1st and 2nd down and getting themselves into 3rd and long. The amount of horrible tackling has also surprised me. I thought Compton and Foster formed a good tandem last year and they have been mostly invisible to me so far. I think some changes we made were good. I like Blackmon and safety and Dunbar needs to stay on the field. Murphy has improved a lot and it’s good to see he start to develop, although I never was a Murphy hater. With this offense we can win a lot of games we just don’t have a huge margin for error, but only a few teams do.

    • renhoekk2 - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM

      They won’t keep getting 3 turnovers a game. They just won’t. You can’t scheme for them. There is no accounting for a a player fumbling or a QB throwing a pick. If they can “force” turnovers why don’t they do it every play? Fact is for turnovers to happen you need assistance from players on the other team. And if they don’t get those 3 turnovers they won’t win. I will argue that getting rid of Barry could help the defense improve. I don’t believe the shortcomings of the unit is a complete lack of talent. There are 5-6 new key contributors on the defensive unit from last season. Hood, Cravens,Norman,Toler,Phillips/Fuller at nickle,improved play from Murphy. They are actually all around worse than last season. If you had a below average unit last year and you replace half of the unit and it gets worse, then I think you need to look at the coaching. Why should anyone believe for a second, if Scot McCloughan goes out and gets another 5 new players for this defense that it will improve under Barry? Why should anyone believe that? And if nobody believes that, then why is he still coaching our defense?

      • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:44 AM

        I think the reverse argument is stronger- if the gm replaced half the players on a bad defense, and the defense gets worse, under the same coaching staff and scheme, you could say the GM downgraded the talent.

        I’m not necessarily saying that, i personally think barry is not one of the better coaches in the league.

        • renhoekk2 - Oct 3, 2016 at 12:42 PM

          Except that one has a proven track record of selecting good football players and one has a proven track record of coaching defenses that finish at or near the bottom of the entire league. Repeatedly. People can draw their own conclusions from there.

          Scot selected a bunch of rookies that played well and contributed last season. He also picked up some FA during the season after injuries happened that helped them win. This draft was different. Doctson was a pick for next season, and only expected to be a part time contributor this season. And you can’t blame the GM if a player gets hurt after the player is here. Cravens is a situational player. Fuller was drafted before Norman fell into their lap and is a very good backup. Ioaniddis was a 5th round pick. Can’t expect immediate production from a 5th rounder. Then they drafted a 3rd string QB and there should be zero expectation of contributions from 7th round picks.

          If you want to forget about what each did before they got here, and only judge them on their Redskins performances, I would still give the benefit of the doubt to Scot over Barry. I don’t believe the players are as bad as they are playing as a unit.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 2:29 PM

          First, can I just say that we signed Norman before the draft. So we drafted Fuller AFTER Norman “fell into our laps.”

          But McCloughan has a proven record of selecting good players? And Barry has a proven track record of coaching bad defenses? That’s really interesting because I don’t think there’s enough info about either to have “proven” track records.

          This is only McCloughan’s 4th year ever as a GM. He only has 3 draft classes that have played at least a full season and the jury is still out about 2015’s class. But he did have some blown picks in his two years in San Fran, was never GM in Seattle, and has arguably had some blunders in Washington already. I don’t really consider 4 years enough time to have a proven track record for a GM.

          This is also only Barry’s 4th season ever as a DC. But he was DC of the infamous 0-16 Lions. Here’s the thing. If you blame that all on Barry then you’re not actually paying attention. The entire team went 0-16. The HC deserves some blame, the players deserve some blame, the GM deserves some blame, and the crappy culture of losing for decades deserves more blame than Barry. He had NO talent to work with. What was he supposed to do? Lombardi wouldn’t have gotten those guys to play much better.

          But since Barrybhas been in Washington Chris Baker broke out as a top-half-of-the-league DE. Murphy went from being a 2nd round bust to sack leader after 4 games (not enough for a trend but it looks good). We lead the league in forced fumbles since he arrived. Even more than Denver and Seattle. Defense won the game on big turnovers the past two weeks. We had the rookie sack leader. We were near the top of the league in tackling last year. We’ve had low draft picks and undrafted guys step in and make huge plays. And we won a division. All while only drafting a single defensive linemen in 2 seasons who didn’t even make the roster initially. No high round or high priced FA safeties, a thin edge rushing group, and a BUNCH of failed free agent acquisitions. How is all of that Barry’s fault?

      • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM

        i will say that we aren’t getting much production out of this year’s draft class… heard a stat that patriots are getting some of the most snaps from their rookie class, obviously we aren’t, which seems counterintuitive as we have a below average roster and theirs is above average.

        Cravens looks like a player, but i wondered before the start of the season how he will hold up at 225 pounds playing ILB… hopefully he recovers quickly.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 2:13 PM

          But the play he got hurt on had nothing to do with his size. He could be in the exact same position as a safety. I can’t remember who he was trying to tackle but it was either a WR or RB right? Just an open field tackle that he kind of whiffed. A SS could be in that exact same position.

          If Cravens goes to SS it’s in more of a Kam Chancelor type role. But that is really what he’s doing already because Kam is playing a hybrid LB/safety role too. Kam is built more like a linebacker than Cravens but he’s playing safety. Cravens is built more like a safety than Kam but he’s playing LB. In reality they’re both just playing a nickel-DB/monster/joker/whatever you want to call it role. The QB doesn’t know if they’re playing more LB or S and they can move from position to position without ever giving it away.

          My point is that he’s already playing a SS type role. He’s not often on the field for what they perceive as run downs. The only reason I said I wanted to see him as SS is because I think Foster is a decent player and our strong safeties are terrrrrible. So it was just about getting the best players on the field but I do think cravens is a modern Mo backer. That position is just changing.

      • sidepull - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:58 AM

        And to add to that ren, there is no guarantee that once a TO is created that the ball bounces in your favor. There is an element of luck to that as well. Nobody game plans for luck, well maybe Andrew Luck.

      • COSSkinsFan - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:18 PM

        I think I heard yesterday that the skins d is ranked 29th which I actually had a hard time believing. As good as it was to get a win, we can thank the Browns for not giving the ball to Crowell more. They did a better job at stopping him than our defense did. Anyway even though our dline lacks talent, I still never understood the Barry hire and still don’t. I don’t see how anyone has any faith in him, my hope is that the offense performs crisply every week and we get dline men and a new defensive coordinator at the bye or in the offseason.

        • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 3:21 PM

          i couldn’t believe the browns coaches weren’t giving the ball more to crowell- they kept
          feeding the other back who fumbled, while crowell was freaking on fire. That was a head scratcher, unless crowell was taking himself out of the game, which is possible.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 3:32 PM

          The guy was probably tires. He basically ran a marathon on us.

      • bangkokben - Oct 3, 2016 at 2:08 PM

        You do realize that everyone you mentioned but Norman is just a complimentary player at this point in their careers. After last year, this defense needed a game changer or play maker at every single level (line, linebacker, and backfield). Norman fell into their lap, Galette got injured, and the line wasn’t addressed. Every other move was replacement. The only way this team takes away the run is if the offense scores on every possession and doesn’t turn it over.

    • ET - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:26 AM

      “The stronger the strengths get the less significant the weaknesses will be.”

      Agreed, but … The ability to get a quasi-legitimate run game going seems like an important step for this defense. The less time this D is on the field, the better. They look terrible when they’re gassed, and the front seven in particular doesn’t have the personnel for lots of substitution. The defensive opportunism we’ve seen this season is really exciting, no doubt. But this D has real flaws that only look worse the longer they’re on the field.

      • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM

        great point on the lack of depth and increased susceptibility to gassing- and how a successful run game will help that defense tremendously.

      • bangkokben - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:42 PM

        A solid run game does help especially if your QB is going to be a work in progress. The first drive took 7:30 minutes off the clock. That is with seven pass attempts. The best defense THIS team can have is a strong offense that moves the ball scoring touchdowns. If they can be consistent running the ball that only makes a strong offense stronger. One that more often than not will compensate for a broken defense. If the offense clicks on all cylinders, it may even win some games it otherwise shouldn’t.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM

          Yup. That’s exactly how the 2014 Cowboys did it. That D was a mess. But the offense could both throw and run well, they put up long scoring drives, and their defense stayed fresh. Then that D got turnovers and make just a couple stops a game at crucial times.

          If our motley crew defense is fresh in the 4th and another better defense is carting oxygen tanks onto the field then we’re in a position to win even if we’re behind. But that comes from getting all aspects of the offense humming. We won’t run the ball well if we’re not passing well. And I believe we won’t pass as well if we don’t get the run going. That was a good confidence building game for Jones. Now let’s see if they can do it against a better defense.

  8. Mr.moneylover - Oct 3, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Even tho Arie Kouandjiou got 2 fouls called on him hes clearly better then shawn lauvao and spencer long has surprised me the last 2 games playing center he showing hes clearly a upgrade from Kory L. ….and for the life of me can redskins sign a legit NT…will compton is a under size mike LB with good speed he cant get off blocks…and I keep telling ppl Ryan Kerrigan might be a nice guy but hes clearly overrated he dont have a sack yet but Trent Murphy has 4.5 sacks most out of all of the defensive players that should tell ppl alot…We know if that defensive line keep playing the way they are playing we wont have a chance to beat the ravens or make the playoffs…give Anthony Lanier a chance to play in the D-line we just cant have trent murphy making plays on the D-line ppl need to step up and stop missing assignments

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM

      Agree with you on Spencer Long, and Danny Shelton for the Browns is no slouch at NT.

      I need to see Arie a bit more.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM

      Kerrigan has 1.5 sacks. Which is really 2. He would have had that .5 by himself but someone else jumped in to help. He was on pace for about 12 sacks and then he got hurt in this game. If we’re going to criticize let’s at least be fair. Where’s Smith’s criticism? This summer everyone said he was going to take over Kerrigan’s role and it would be the Gallette/Smith show. Smith actually has 0 sacks.

      And Murphy has been a really good player. There’s no reason to say Kerrigan has less sacks than him like that’s a bad thing.

      • sidepull - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM

        Ya know, great point. I was thinking about it but where is Smith? Really? What is the story there? Disappointing for sure, I guess I was expecting more.

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:51 PM

          My personal opinion is that Smith is a talented young player who still needs to grow up. Sometimes he has great plays, and sometimes he’s more of a liability than a help. He appears to just give up on plays and go through series of lazy play. I noticed that when I went back and watched some of his games from Miss State too. He will kind of come off the line half assed and watch to see if a run play is coming toward him or not. If it isn’t then he stops moving his feet, maybe pretends to do a head juke, and watches everyone else try to tackle the runner instead of trying to run from the backside and tackle from behind. He has one of the slowest spin moves I’ve ever seen and he needs to be banned from ever using it again. He also seems completely lost in coverage sometimes.

          Smith could be a good player for us but we shouldn’t already say his name like he’s a dependable pass rusher. We could draft OLBs in the first and second next year and still maybe not have great depth because Smith might be a bust. This is what happens when we go counting our chickens before they hatch. He will be a good player if he can ever fix his motor and try hard on every play. Kerrigan, if nothing else, has been a model of consistency.

        • ET - Oct 3, 2016 at 5:52 PM

          I saw Smith show up for some plays, but he’s been inconsistent. Teams have film on him now, so maybe he’s telegraphing his moves too readily? I don’t dispute that sometimes Smith takes off plays, either. This is a case where I think the player’ll get better—but it’s not always a linear progression.

  9. Eli - Oct 3, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    Great stat regarding Jordan Reed. I was unaware of that. There have been so many great receivibg TE- Tony Gonzalez, Gronkowski, Whitten, Shannon Sharpe, Kellen Winslow, Bavaro, Mackey, Jerry Smith, etc. Reed is such a joy to watch.

    Shanahan gets crucified by a lot of Skins fans, but some of the players on this team that he acquired are some of the biggest contributors even years later- Trent Williams, Kerrigan, Cousins, Reed, Thompson, Garcon. And it appears that David Amerson is a gem and potential all-pro CB who simply didn’t work out here.

    On the balance, I’m glad Shanahan is gone. His special teams were historically bad and many of his drafts didn’t provide much depth. Although not perfect, the Skins currently have a better and more sustainable front office and coaching set-up. But watching high-performing players like Reed play consistently well reminds us of the positive contribution that Shanahan made in lifting this mess of an organization following a decade of Vinny’s nonsense.

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 3, 2016 at 10:50 AM

      Shanny would still be here if it were not for Snyder. I don’t blame shanny for anything. It was Snyders fault that RGIII failed. He was the one that pushed for him and that trade. Proof was that Shanny drafted Cousins during that same year. He would have never drafted cousins had he not seen this issues with RGIII coming. The only reason Shanny is gone is because he wanted to call the shots on players and who played, like all head coaches. Snyder wanted player control as well. It just took him a major failure for him to finally understand his poor micromanagement tactics in football failing. It was too late however. If you recall Shanny and Gruden came to the same assessment. The only difference is that Snyder finally realized he was wrong.

      • bangkokben - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:49 PM

        Shabby is gone because he had double digit losses in all but one season. Auto correct seemed to call him what he was.

  10. renhoekk2 - Oct 3, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    I know it’s hard to believe because we watch it happen every week, but most teams don’t give up over 300yds passing while giving up over 100yds rushing. If the Skins are actually making an effort to run the ball and Jones goes over 100yds himself, then Cousins isn’t going to be throwing often enough to have huge passing numbers. They don’t get to play against their own defense. Be happy he threw three redzone TD’s and move on.

    • Trey Gregory - Oct 3, 2016 at 1:55 PM

      Whhhaaaaat? All teams don’t give up that many yards? Say it ain’t so!

      It’s not even the yards that get me. It’s the yards after contact and missed tackles. If the opposing O-line doesna great job and opens a hole then, good for them. But it’s tough to take when a LB or safety jumps into a gap and falls flat on his face.

      If this defense practiced nothing but tackling for the rest of the year they would probably improve overall. It’s not an overly talented roster and I don’t expect them to shut anyone down. But just tackle a guy when your hands are already on him for crying out loud.

  11. wvredskins - Oct 3, 2016 at 3:46 PM

    The thing that Irks me the most is the 3rd and long’s we are giving up. Its not like we are giving up deep passes beyond the 1st down marker. Its the passes to the flat where NO BODY is around that gets me. Which has been a problem since week one. Players have to play more sound and if they are suppose to be in flats then PLAY THE FLATS BRO! Do not give up a 11 yard gain on a freaking swing pass or quick out. We also need to work on tackling. The number one thing that we are failing at is TACKLING. Yes we have a weakness in our d Line, and yes we have avg linebackers at best and our Safeties are no better, especially Bruton, but come on, Gang tackle, and tackle with better form!

    There are some positives in this defense and that is they show they have heart and they play for 60 minutes. They cause turnovers and really have won these past two games in my eyes by causing turnovers. Start tackling better and do a better job of being where you are suppose to be and our defense could be better. Hopefully we get better as the year goes on.

    I know one thing I am not going to do and that is blame our defensive coordinator, he cant get out there and tackle or make a player be where he is suppose to be. He can only coach them up. Prime example, last week Sua Cravens was doing an interview and said the following; On the first play i got beat by the running back and Eli missed him. Before the next play coach told me to be ready cause they are going to run that route again, and guess what happened? Cravens interception and game over. So we cant put all the blame on Barry. We dont see what actually goes on. At the end of the day look at the players he has to work with!


    • chimps000 - Oct 3, 2016 at 4:39 PM

      that’s a great example of good coaching that you just gave. Props to barry.

      When players miss tackles, i generally think it points to a talent problem. Crowell was running strong and fast, and we just don’t have real talented players on defense who are going to easily win one on one battles.

    • COSSkinsFan - Oct 3, 2016 at 8:25 PM

      The yardage we give up on third and long is ridiculous and extremely frustrating. As many issues as we have on defense it seems like we get opponents into 3rd and long fairly often and yep also seems like there’s always a dump off with no defender in sight. When we face 3rd and long on offense and dump it off it seems like there’s always 3 defenders around the catch and we get stopped short. The exception being the screen to Crowder last week which was beautifully executed, though I admit when I saw the throw I asked wth are they doing. We seem like we get caught off guard on defense when the ball gets checked down. I understand guys sometimes slip out, but it happens to us way too often. Archives

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