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Poll: Where should the Redskins play Trent Williams this week?

Sep 29, 2016, 8:30 AM EDT

  1. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 29, 2016 at 8:43 AM

    Wherever he helps us win!

    I’m OK with Arie starting at LG. But if it’s not working…

    We saw Nsekhe and Williams on the left side work against a better DL than the Browns have.

    • COSSkinsFan - Sep 29, 2016 at 8:52 AM

      Exactly, hope Sullivan gets up to speed quickly. If he can stay healthy it’s a possible upgrade.

  2. redskins12thman - Sep 29, 2016 at 9:03 AM

    Here’s how I think o-line goes:

    1. Get Sully up-to-speed ASAP; until then Long plays center
    2. As soon as healthy, Lauvao plays LG; until then Long is first choice
    3. If Lauvao or Long are unavailable to play LG, they’ll try Kouandjio, but if he struggles, Williams would play LG and Nsekhe would play LT

    So for this weekend:

    Williams – Kouandjio – Long – Scherff – Moses

    unless Arie isn’t working out in which case they’ll switch to:

    Nsekhe – Williams – Long – Scherff – Moses

    • bangkokben - Sep 29, 2016 at 12:17 PM

      I expect “Sully” to be Brian de la Puente 2.0.

      • redskins12thman - Sep 29, 2016 at 2:03 PM

        Wow! Interesting. I’m expecting an upgrade over not only de La Puente, but LeRibeus, Reiter and Lichtensteiger; granted, it may be just for this year, but I’m expecting a very solid player. I guess I’m bound to be disappointed and hopefully you are pleasantly surprised!

        • bangkokben - Sep 29, 2016 at 8:05 PM

          I so hope you’re expectations are fulfilled. I wish we had Reiter and wouldn’t be surprised if he pushed our d-line around on Sunday.

        • mtskins - Sep 29, 2016 at 9:45 PM

          If only someone had been beating the drum for Reiter since OTAS…..

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 30, 2016 at 12:09 AM

          Reiter really wasn’t very good in preseason even against backups. What makes you think he’s going to push anyone around? You can’t seriously be saying that you think Reiter is a better center than Sullivan.

        • cmehustle - Sep 30, 2016 at 4:09 AM

          Trey, some may disagree. Some real knowledgable people (Mr. Cooley being one of them) thought Reiter was VERY good during the preseason. Obviously at least one team thought he did, becasue he was picked up as soon as he went to the practice squad. It was a big mistake exposing him, and I think Gruden and co. know it.

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 29, 2016 at 2:04 PM

        Why is that? I get he exact opposite impression from him. He was a pretty solid starter for a while. His back is a little concerning but I did some reading on linemen and back injuries in general and actually most of them come back and play just fine. I believe the number was 4/5. Their effectiveness might diminish a bit but they’re able to play.

        We could solve a lot by signing a better backup LG than Kouandjo. That way Long could just play center, Sullivan could be backup center, and we still keep our guard depth.

        • bangkokben - Sep 29, 2016 at 5:43 PM

          He was available and yet Cleveland poached Reiter.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 29, 2016 at 5:59 PM

          Lol. Touché. Didn’t even think about that.

          But Cleveland also let Alex Mack go. And a bunch of other good players. They’re trying out a whole new way of doing things. Right now they’re focused on young and cheap options to develop. And Reiter is that. Sullivan is a 1-2 year Band Aid coming off a significant injury. But he also has a long history of playing good football. It’s a risk but if he stays healthy we get a good patch in the lineup for at least 13 games.

          I’m honestly surprised the Browns didn’t let Joe Thomas go. I’ll bet they would have but the contract didn’t make it practical.

    • snyderisanidiot - Sep 29, 2016 at 12:30 PM

      I like the second lineup you got up there. Let Trent get a little dirty in the Guard position and let him rough up some guys. Trent is no joke,does reps with the bench press over 500 lbs. Remember when he punched Richard Sherman? He could of taken Sherman’s head off if he wanted to. I would love to see Trent at guard.
      Nsekhe is can handle his own.

      • redskins12thman - Sep 29, 2016 at 2:04 PM

        I hear you but I think Redskins want Trent at LT unless he has to play LG (i.e., Lauvao and Long can’t go and Arie doesn’t work out either). We’ll see.

  3. sidepull - Sep 29, 2016 at 12:26 PM

    TW is the LT
    I dont think they want Ty in there all the time do they? I mean who else is a swing tackle? Ty gets hurt lets say and the Moses or TW get injured. Whose the swing? Got guard material but swing material I dunno.

    • snyderisanidiot - Sep 29, 2016 at 12:32 PM

      Trent Williams would be beast at guard especially versus the Browns. Let Trent get in the middle of the line and show those guys how to open up some interior running lanes.

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 29, 2016 at 2:01 PM

        But it’s not about Trent being a good guard. Trent could probably be the best center or TE on the team too. He’s an amazing athlete and football player. His athleticism is off the chart for a guy his size.

        This is about tackle being a more important position than guard and taking the best player we have and moving him to a less important position while a lesser player moves to a more important position.

        Say all of Carolina’s running backs get hurt. Cam Newton might already be the best RB on that team but he certainly is if they all go down. Would you argue that Cam should play RB even if they think they have a pretty good backup QB? No? Because it’s crazy. QB is more important. And if the backup QB gets hurt then who is the backup QB? It’s better to just bring a RB up from the practice squad.

        Swing tackle is a key position because tackles are very important. If we start Ty then we no longer have a swing tackle. If Ty gets hurt then we no longer have a swing tackle. He’s a solid swing tackle but he’s not an all-pro LT like Trent Williams. The line gets worse with Ty in at LT. That’s what this is about. Not whether or not Trent can play guard well.

    • Skulb - Sep 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM

      Arie maybe. Either way we’re a bit screwed if we lose two starting tackles because we only have three, or four if you count Kouandjio. So it’s not a very good argument against playing Trent at guard. If Ty goes down, Trent moves back out to left tackle. If Mo goes down, Ty goes in at right tackle and Trent back to left tackle. This is not hard to figure out.
      The first impression is that Trent would be a beast inside. And Scot said very clearly this summer that Nsekhe is a top 5 lineman on this team. As far as I’m concerned our line improved with these injuries, and I was even calling for this exact line back in July. Nsekhe is a very, very good player who has shown almost no weaknesses while playing at either tackle spot so far. He’s also enormous and makes Trent look regular sized by comparison.

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 29, 2016 at 3:57 PM

        Kouandjo is a guard. Not a tackle. So we really only have 3. The argument is that it doesn’t seem prudent to have all 3 on field and susceptible to injury at the same time. If you keep the Swing tackle on the bench then he more likely to be healthy if one of the starters go down.

        Swing tackle is an actual position. And it’s important. We cease to have anyone at that position anymore if Ty starts at LT and Williams at LG. That’s the argument. In the situation you laid out, who is our swing tackle who isn’t just a name on a list but actually worthy of the position?

        I also think it’s fallacy to say Williams has to play guard for us to have a good run game. Call it a non sequator or a false dilemma but it is possible to have a good run game with Williams at LT. There were two injuries and two changes on the line Sunday. You’re assuming that Willims to LG helped the run but are ignoring that Long coming in at center may have caused the improvement. Go back and watch the first run of the game. Williams and Lauvao get a great push. They were excellent. But Kory didn’t hold up and his guy came over and tackled Jones. It negated what should have been a good run and we got about a yard.

        The center was the issue on that play, not the left guard. Maybe let’s see how it works out with a new center when Lauvao is back or Long is at LG because Sullivan is center before we move an all pro from a premium position into a position of lesser importance

        • Skulb - Sep 30, 2016 at 4:44 AM

          He also blocked two guys downfield from guard on the Crowder TD.I just think that most fans are underestimating Nsekhe is all. He’s really really good and should be playing more. It bugs me that I have to wait for injuries before he gets a chance to be on the field.

  4. Skulb - Sep 29, 2016 at 2:57 PM

    The Crowder TD was Trent at LG blocking two people downfield to create the gap. If we want to run the ball Trent should be at LG.

    • redskins12thman - Sep 29, 2016 at 4:04 PM

      Trent could pull as LT in running play. Remember the “counter trey”?

  5. mightyjester - Sep 29, 2016 at 4:59 PM

    Trent should be played at WR. He can switch with Desean. Desean would be a beast blocking for the run game.

    • redskins12thman - Sep 29, 2016 at 5:23 PM

      You are the Mighty Jester!

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 29, 2016 at 6:07 PM

        He has a point. I’ll bet you Trent would be one hell of a TE or FB/RB too. He’s one of the most gifted athletes on the team. And he’s already playing one of the most critical positions on the team. Anything outside of QB or DE is a waste of his talent and salary.

        • snyderisanidiot - Sep 29, 2016 at 10:01 PM

          Speaking of DE. I bet Trent could do some damage on the other side of the ball. I wonder if he would mind playing both ways?

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 30, 2016 at 2:30 AM

          In sure he could be a monster DE or DT. But I’m also sure he would mind. I would too. The guy would be worn out and useless by half time. People are having fun with a bit of a fantasy right now (I know it’s not necessarily you) but protecting the QB’s blindside is still one of the most important jobs on the entire team. And we have a truly elite player doing it. We don’t need to wear him down, shorten his career with more impact, or expose him to more risk of injury. Everyone should just be happy we have a great LT and move on.

  6. lezziemcdykerson - Sep 29, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    anybody BUT trent and kirk can play out of position.

  7. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 29, 2016 at 7:54 PM

    People are silly. But you all know that.

  8. greed - Sep 29, 2016 at 8:26 PM

    you guys keep saying get sully up to speed so he 2n take over he 31 coming off missing a whole year and 2 back surgeries we just experience that same type situation with K lict , i like Long at center he homegrown young big and has a mean streak , best case scenario he finds a home at center and mans the middle for many seasons to come, sully is the emergency backup plan if long gets injured is completely overmatched and if thats the case center will be first priority in april draft

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 30, 2016 at 2:42 AM

      I like the idea of trying to make Long our solution at center. I don’t mind it one bit. But I’m hoping they get Sullivan up to speed ASAP because we don’t have a left guard and Long is currently our backup guard. Remember when we kept 3 QBs, Everett, Tolar, and like 8 bad defensive linemen? Remember how people just didn’t want the team to release anybody? Well we lost Reiter, Leribus and some other guys to make that happen. We only kept seven active linemen and one backup guard/center. That’s with an injury prone LG and Center. Guess who’s hurt? The injury prone LG and center. So now we have two guys out, only one guy to replace them who might actually be any good, and people want to move our all pro left tackle to left guard to fix it. But if Sullivan can play center and Long play LG until Lauvao gets back, then all is well.

      And the year off for Sullivan is a good thing in my opinion. It takes these guys about a year to come back full strength from these injuries. Sometimes two years. He had an extra year where he wasn’t stressing his back. The guy was a good center for a long time and will mentally get back on track in no time. Physically he may not be what he used to be but 4/5 NFL players who get that surgery are able to come back and start in the league again. It sounds worse than it really is. He didn’t break his back or anything. They just scoup out the gel inside the disk that’s pressing on the nerve. Not a huge deal if they’re allowed to heal.

      • redskins12thman - Sep 30, 2016 at 5:04 AM

        At least, it’s nice to have that versatility; helps the team out a bunch!

        Last season, both Lauvao and Lichtensteiger went down early and the O-line was never the same.

        Fans urged the team on to get a new center and player to challenge for left guard spot. Redskins stuck with Kouandjio for depth and trained Long to play center.

        Here’s hoping that it works out, but I do think that the team is disappointed in Kouandjio because he never really challenged Long as Lauvao’s potential replacement while the latter was recuperating.

        Fans will again urge the team on to get a new center and player to challenge for left guard spot. Sully is only a stop gap solution.

      • greed - Sep 30, 2016 at 7:27 PM

        i said when the first 53 came out that keeping sudfield on active roster would end up biting us in the arse ! With the injuries to luvao and k lict no way was reiter shouldve been open to other teams to practice squad, sudfield should be on PSQUAD who was actually going to sign a rookie 7th round draft pict to their roster

        • Trey Gregory - Oct 1, 2016 at 4:13 AM

          6th round pick. Reiter was the 7th rounder but your point is well taken. I was not a fan of him being on the 53. But hey, maybe he’ll surprise me and become a franchise QB. Who knows? Archives

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