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Talking points: Redskins don’t underrate Garçon

Sep 16, 2016, 6:04 AM EDT

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Here are the major talking points from Jay Gruden’s news conference on Thursday.

—Pierre Garçon may be overlooked by fans and media but not inside Redskins Park, says Gruden. “Pierre’s obviously a big part of our team and we don’t really try to listen to what outside people say,” he said. “We know what type of player he is. He’s a heck of a possession guy. Very tough, catching the tough balls across the middle or on the sideline or underneath or what have you, and he can go deep.” Garçon did have six catches for 51 yards against the Steelers so he wasn’t totally forgotten.

—Gruden trusts the ability of the team to bounce back after getting blown out on Monday. “That’s a great challenge… when adversity strikes, how you react, and that’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and the bad teams. And we are facing it right now. You never want to lose a game at home. Monday night, we failed. We all failed and how we bounce back is going to be a big part of our success throughout the season because we are going to have our ups and downs, there’s no question about it.”

—The Redskins committed five false starts against the Steelers and that is some low-hanging fruit that can be corrected. Gruden talked about why the penalties happened. “It was because they were trying to get a jump on the snap and timing the snap as opposed to waiting for the ball to be snapped so we’ve just got to address that,” he said. “You know, sometimes our quarterback might have been rolling the snap count too long or what have you and linemen were jumping. It’s been addressed and we’re just going to keep working.” Gruden noted that they haven’t had any false starts in practice this week so that’s a good start.

—The Redskins got just one sack of Ben Roethlisberger and Gruden said that was due to the situations the defense put itself in. “Last week we didn’t get in many situations where it was all-out rush,” he said. “Not many third and eights, third and 12s. We got a couple, we didn’t get much pressure, but we did get one sack – Kerrigan did. The key is first down we’ve got to do better, get them a second and long and then obviously try to get them in third down and long to try and make it more one-dimensional where we can rush.”

  1. redskins12thman - Sep 16, 2016 at 6:10 AM

    Jackson, Garcon, Reed and Norman were the top Redskins against the Steelers. Need the other 42 to step up their game.

    The Redskins keep talking about eliminating penalties and getting more QB pressure. They need to stop talking about these issues and delivering on them.

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    • Trey Gregory - Sep 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM

      I thought Crowder had a good game too. Cousins didn’t help him much. And Davis had a good night blocking then one good catch and run. We threw 3 TEs out there a lot, I hope we utilize them more. It would make me really happy if Niles Paul or Vernon Davis led all TEs in yards and TDs this weekend. Good luck game planning for us if that happens.

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  2. skinsgame - Sep 16, 2016 at 7:22 AM

    Really good news to hear they haven’t had any false starts in practice this week. I wonder, what if they worked in not getting any false starts on a more regular basis, would that help? Hopefully he’s onto something there with that whole “practice” thingy.

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    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 16, 2016 at 8:45 AM

      Hope so. Seems like we’re committing too many dumb penalties every year.
      ~

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    • Trey Gregory - Sep 16, 2016 at 4:19 PM

      Yup. It’s not just a cliche to say you play like you practice. Or you fight like you train. It’s very, very true. Especially for young or inexperienced players. And mindset matters. Relax in practice and most people will be more relaxed in a game.

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  3. smotion55 - Sep 16, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    If all the other players were as professional and played with the fearless edge Garcon does they would not have laid the goose egg last week . Time for Gruden to toughen up and just maybe get mad and show it with O-Line,and coach Callahan , D-Line and Kirk, No excuses for the Last Place effort last week. He is to laid back and friendly sometimes . Just like Kirk being stuck on being a distributor instead of play maker. He is playing himself into a 6- 10 million dollar contract next year.

    Next year Garcon will be somewhere else or be playing for 2-4 million a year here as the 5th receiver . I hope he has a good year, true team player.

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    • redskins12thman - Sep 16, 2016 at 12:00 PM

      Because of his work ethic and doing a lot of things that other receivers don’t do (as often), Garcon would be great to have stay as part of the receiving corps. Similar to Moss, I would like Garcon to stay here until he is beaten out.

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    • Trey Gregory - Sep 16, 2016 at 4:16 PM

      Garcon as a 5th receiver? It’s relevant to down and distance but no way man. Not even at his age. Either Garcon or Jackson (probably both) are leaving this offseason. If we keep Garcon then that makes Doctson the X, Reed the Y, Crowder the slot, and Garcon the Z. He is still the best WR on the team for those tough possession receiver type plays. And the TEs can’t do it all.

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    • greed - Sep 16, 2016 at 6:02 PM

      maybe gruden should visualise those players as rg3 to get mad at them LOL

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    • lezziemcdykerson - Sep 16, 2016 at 6:37 PM

      I’m pissed we lost that game too but the theme for this season HAS TO BE “tempered optimism.” Jay should be mad at Callahan? For what? The false starts.. ok. But other than that the O-line is who we thought they were. That’s not on Callahan that’s on the MADTV guy. They didn’t allow a sack and the running game is equal parts sub par running back and makeshift oline. The D line same story. Both are on Scot. Kirk is still finding his way. There’s a reason he doesn’t have a deal yet. He’s got to work through that but other than the off target passes and that one play where he could’ve ran for the first I don’t see the 6-10M credibility. Especially when there’s 15 games left. Kirk can implode or be the next Tom Brady we really don’t know. Let’s put our pitchforks away and wait for a real sign of regression. Kirk had a bad game. Doesn’t mean he hasn’t gotten better overall. We don’t yet. It takes more than one point on a graph to show a pattern. We can’t panic because we got beat by a future HOF QB, possible HOF Brown that stout line lead by Pouncey. Their defense isn’t what it used to be but they still have Harrison. If we don’t beat Dallas we will have this talk. I remember an early conversation with bang saying Pittsburgh wouldn’t be a statement game if we won.. ummm yeah sure well go with that. It was enough of a statement game that there was full on panic here on Tuesday, can you imagine if we won, let alone looked dominant? These next three games will serve as good fodder for evaluation. Don’t lose hope yet. Brock played 7 games and looked terrible in all but 2 and still landed some money. I hope Kirk can turn it around though.

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      • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2016 at 7:27 PM

        “Let’s put our pitchforks away and wait for a real sign of regression.” Amen!

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      • Trey Gregory - Sep 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM

        Lost in a lot of this panick is that the Steelers have one of the best O-lines in football. Top 5 for sure, and I heard some pretty respectable analysts today talking about the possibility of them being #1 with Pouncey back. So, HOF QB, HOF WR (I’m putting him in now ;) ), very good RB regardless of age, and a top offensive line went to town on our weak D-line. How is anyone shocked about that? That happened how it was supposed to happen on defense. The only surprise was Cousins’ bad performance. If he cleans that up we look a lot better. Still lose, but we lose close.

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      • 226thebeatdontstop - Sep 17, 2016 at 10:32 AM

        Cousins is what we saw Monday, average at best. He has no excuses, plenty of weapons.

        He has poor awareness too, there we’re many opportunities for him to scramble instead he sits in the pocket looking lost.

        When the Redskins lose to Dallas the following should be on the hot seat:
        Gruden
        Joe Barry
        Cousins

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        • lezziemcdykerson - Sep 19, 2016 at 10:00 AM

          So we’re throwing Gruden in the Rex Ryan bag? Even though Gruden was in the playoffs last year?

  4. celeoinc - Sep 17, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    Let’s don’t forget that 1st TD just happened because Breeland got greedy and went for the interception instead of just breaking the pass. It was 4th down and the interception would do no good.

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    • Trey Gregory - Sep 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM

      That’s not true man. Unless I’m getting my plays mixed up. But that was the 4th and 1 right? Breeland was in good position but Hall was completely out of position. The whole team, including our single high safety, sold out on the run. Breeland may as well have been on an Island against the best WE/QB combo in the game. That’s a losing situation all day long. If Hall provides help over the top then we stand a chance.

      And Rich brings up a good point in that tweet. Denver had the best defense with the best secondary last year. Chris Harris hadn’t given up a TD in 2 years. Then AB comes to town and scores two TDs on Harris. He actually had a better game against Harris than Breeland. And Harris had the best pass rush in the game helping him out. So unless you’re willing to say Chris Harris sucks, I think people just have to accept that it’s damn near impossible to stop AB and Ben.

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  5. 226thebeatdontstop - Sep 17, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    Gruden stop blowing hot air if Garcon is so valuable why isn’t he getting the ball thrown his way consistantly?

    While I’m at it why isn’t Desean targeted deep at least once a quarter or used similar to how Pittsburgh used AB?

    Stopping making excuses for Joe Barry he is horrible as a defensive coordinator, he does not make adjustments throughout a game..

    When your defense ranks 28th in the league you don’t draft wide receivers with your first pick!!!!!!!! SMDH

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    • Trey Gregory - Sep 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM

      Wide receivers do more than just catch balls. There’s more to it than that. Garcon adds plenty of value to this team without catching 15 balls a game. He’s a very good WR and a big asset to this team.

      But we also have at least 4 other pass catchers who deserve their fair share too. And the defense will largely dictate which WR gets the ball. It’s not like Gruden telling Cousins not to throw to Garcon.

      And you do realize that we drafted heavily on defense in 2016 right? Round 1 was Doctson (great pick btw). Then Cravens, Fuller, and Ioannidis were defense. Three of our top 4 were defense plus almost every one of our free agent acquisitions; including the biggest signing of the offseason in Josh Norman. So it’s not like McCloughan ignored the defense.

      I agree he could have and should have done more. But not a whole lot. If he drafts a DT or a DE with that 4th round pick then I basically have nothing to complain about. But you don’t draft guys, especially out of the first round, and expect them to fix a problem that year. Drafts are about the future, not the present. It would be nice to have some quality young talent developing on the roster for the future. But they probably wouldn’t have had much impact this year.

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