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Need to Know: Will the Redskins go running back by committee?

Sep 2, 2016, 5:31 AM EDT

Redskins RBs

Here is what you need to know on this Friday, September 2, one day before the Washington Redskins cut their roster to 53 players.


Today’s schedule: Off day, no availability

—The Redskins last played a game that counted 236 days ago. It will be 10 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Cowboys @ Redskins 16; Browns @ Redskins 30; Redskins @ Ravens 37

Stock up/stock down vs. the Bucs

—I like Mack Brown and I think he could be a helpful player to have on the roster. But I just don’t see a spot for him. If they do take on a fourth running back I think it will be someone from outside of the organization, a veteran or an experienced back cut by another team. But I’d say they should stick with three; a fourth running back is like a fifth wheel. Keep Brown on the practice squad in case someone gets injured.

—The bigger implication of Wednesday night at running back may be in the division of carries. It seems that the offseason plan has been to give Matt Jones the vast majority of the carries, upwards of 75 percent of them. But the way that Robert Kelley ran, and the way he ran throughout the entire preseason, may prompt Jay Gruden and company to call his number more often. Jones will still get most of the rushing attempts but it may be more like a 60/40 split with Kelley and maybe Chris Thompson getting the other carries.

—If I was making the decision I probably would put Nate Sudfeld on waivers and try to get him through to the practice squad. If he gets claimed, oh well, find another developmental quarterback. But I don’t make those decisions and I think that the people in the Redskins organization who do will keep Sudfeld on the 53. It’s a defensible position, certainly. For one thing, a few teams needed three quarterbacks last year. For another, they have invested a lot of time in training Sudfeld in their system and they don’t want to start from scratch with another QB with the regular season getting underway.

—As of this writing, Josh Doctson is on the PUP list. He won’t be when Saturday rolls around. He has not practiced yet but they are not going to put him on the shelf for six weeks. I would look for him to be limited in practice the week leading up to the Steelers game and then inactive for the game. That pattern will continue for a few weeks until he gets up to full speed.

—On my final projection I have the Redskins keeping seven defensive linemen and 10 defensive backs. They could change that to keep Deshazor Everett on the roster. I don’t think that they really like their D-linemen beyond Chris Baker and maybe Ziggy Hood. If they think that their best 11 defensive backs are better football players than their best six D-linemen, why not set up the roster that way and keep Anthony Lanier and Corey Crawford on the practice squad.

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  1. redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM

    Rich, I believe you have the Redskins keeping seven defensive linemen and TEN defensive backs. I really hope they keep Deshazor Everett on the roster; of the routes to get there, I would prefer six defensive lineman.

    The player with the most wide ranging assessment is Reyes. The coaching has used such words as “outstanding,” when talking about him whereas some pundits don’t even think he is NFL caliber. What do you think of Reyes?

    We’ve had a lot of misses on defensive free agent signings lately. The best have been RJF and Hood; still wait and see with Bruton and Garvin … they might be quality adds too.

  2. garg8050 - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:31 AM

    Jones may experience the same quick hook Morris did last year if he isn’t effective early in the game. If he’s running well, then he’ll get the bulk of the carries.

  3. redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:33 AM

    To begin with, I think a lot depends on Matt Jones’ health. If he’s not healthy, I think the Redskins will start with Kelley. If Jones is healthy, I think they give the majority of carries to him, but they’ll start to mix in Kelley if Jones is not productive. It’ll be interesting to see if Lauvao starts at LG.

    • sidepull - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:55 AM

      Amen to that. I hope it doesn’t come to pass but I think they will be juggling with health at RB all season. Who knows, maybe one of these guys puts the pedal to the metal and doesnt let up. I think its a lot of attention to the running game but for me stopping the other team from running down their throats is the bigger concern.

      Why Reyes? What exactly are they seeing? Sorry I just dont see it except the Barry connect and hope to inspire him.

  4. Skinsfansince68 - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:56 AM

    I didn’t see the need to keep paulsen and i understand not wanting to chance sudfeld. But he is very raw, and as stated by you a few weeks back, very rarely do teams claim cut rookie qb’s. The bigger danger is claiming off of the ps down the line. But i think it is a chance we should take. This way we can have 7 d-linemen, 11 defensive backs and harris/brown. Then if sudfeld improves, make the adjustment. I don’t see Sudfeld being counted on this year. If cousins or mccoy goes down, they will sign someone else and not put the ball in sudfeld’s hands this year.

  5. colorofmyskinz - Sep 2, 2016 at 7:02 AM

    Have to keep Sudfeld, cannot let him go. Can’t risk the waivers clearing.

    Mack Brown looked very explosive as with Kelly. The reason you keep them all is that I am not convinced Thompson will last more than 6 games. He will be on and off injury all year like every year we have dressed him. The guy just is too small to take the hits. And Matt Jones runs too violently to think he can go 16 as well. The combination of his speed and size and explosiveness makes him very prone to injury. We may be lucky to have 2 of these 4 backs midway through the year. Have to go with 4 backs until we see something different with Jones and Thompson on their injury prone size and styles.

    Our DLine is just flat out dissaponting beyond baker, hood and RJF. I would rather have Spaight on the line than any of the nonamers we have.

    I rewatched game 3 last night. OMG Kory just gets abused. He gets pushed back 10 yards while the rest of the line moves forward. He is so out of place and so underpowered compared to the league, unbelievable he is still our starter. I would do everything possible to get Long up to speed until we can acquire a real center. We have farted around with Koy enough. He literally looks like Brandon banks compared to the rest of the NFL. We are kidding ourselves and severely compromised with him in a starting role.

    Unsung heroe (not starters) standouts of preseason games to me are Spaight, Sua, Fuller, Inhecho, Toler, Ty N.. I think we see these guys on the field producing this year. Inhecho should be starting over Bru, and Toler should be way ahead of Dunbar. Not many offensive standouts this preseason.

    • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:09 AM

      It will be interesting to see if Redskins pick up C, OLB, RB, DL once teams start waiving players to get to 53…. Even players I like, including Everett, might get dropped if Redskins see a solid opportunity to upgrade at these positions. With that said, at this stage, it’s hard to come by real talent for most positions besides RBs; usually, you’ll get aging vets or inconsistent young players, and if you have a better than average roster, there’s not much there. Maybe someone for OL practice squad development like Painter.

      With the play of Kelley, Redskins may not make a move at RB until we see how Jones does.

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 12:02 PM

      I’ve asked you this before and you didn’t answer. So I’ll ask you again. At what point did Kory get blown off the ball 10 yards? Can you give me the time and quarter please? If it’s happening so often you should easily be able to give me a few examples.

  6. redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 7:36 AM

    Here’s my guess of the ten players the Redskins want on the practice squad. It assumes Bates, Dunbar, Lanier and Everett make the roster (if not, then the Redskins would want these four players on the practice squad):

    1. Brown
    2. Thorpe
    3. Harris
    4. Jensen
    5. Painter
    6. Ioannidis
    7. Fields
    8. Trail
    9. Crawford
    10. Carrington

    If a couple of these players go elsewhere, I think the Redskins will want the following players on the practice squad:

    1. Wakefield
    2. Kerridge
    3. Matias-Smith

    • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 9:42 AM

      Also assumes Sudfeld is on the 53 and would otherwise be targeted for practice squad too…

  7. bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 7:44 AM

    Agree on all of Rich’s points.

  8. sarcasticdave94 - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:04 AM

    I agree with you. I will say if it were me, I’d find a way for Brown to make the cut, but I’m not sure who doesn’t make the cut then.

  9. skinsgame - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:22 AM

    I’d rather they take the calculated risk of Sudfeld clearing waivers. I don’t imagine other teams are salivating over him. Keep a younger DL in the mix and try to develop him through the season. Odds are far more likely that another DL would benefit and gain more tangible experience than Sudfeld would at 3rd string QB.

    • ET - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM

      I’ve come around to the “calculated risk” camp for Sudfeld and Brown. The odds are reasonable that they can both make it through waivers, I think. If not, it ain’t the end of the world. Though Gruden might not agree with me—I get the sense they want to hold on to Sudfeld in particular.

      I don’t think Everett makes it through waivers if cut, however. Too much good tape.

  10. troylok - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:40 AM

    Nate Sudfield would be picked up in a New York minute if they put him on waivers. Have you seen the junk the other teams are putting up at QB? If they can straighten out his throwing mechanics and teach him how to read a defense, they will have a nice QB. He has pocket awareness and knows how to protect the ball. Because of his height, he can see over his offensive linemen. They are not going to be able to fix him if they let some other team scoop him up.

    • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM


    • Dcwun - Sep 2, 2016 at 11:01 AM

      You have got to be freaking kidding. He’s a 3-4 QB on any roster at this point……

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 12:48 PM

      See guys. This is a clear cut example of fan goggles. Absolutely delusional.

      • ET - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:56 PM

        “Fan goggles”—socking that away for future (mis)use.

  11. bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    Lichtensteiger taking a pay cut. Does that mean that he is not the starting center? Either way, cool.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 2, 2016 at 9:41 AM


  12. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    I’m with Rich re: Nate Sudfeld.

    If he makes it to the practice squad, great. If not, just get another QB project.

    • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 12:18 PM

      This situation to me is akin to when my younger brother would try to protect his plate from me taking his lima beans. 1) They’re lima beans, 2) I have some on my own plate, and 3) There’s a pot of lima beans for either of us to get more. Doesn’t matter. I have a history of taking the last potato or a his marischino cherry and he’s really attached to those lima beans.

  13. renhoekk2 - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    Reyes has no business being on the roster. Go watch the Bills game again if you have it. First play gets driven 3yds downfield. 2nd play stays blocked until the whistle. 3rd play gets driven into the ground by the blocker. He never gets off a block. He stays blocked and dances with the OL until the whistle every play I don’t even see him trying to disengage. Every play is the same, he grabs the OL around the shoulder pads, the OL grabs him around the shoulder pad and they stand there and dance until the whistle.. He had one semi decent play in that game where while staying engaged with the OL, he SLOWLY drove him back towards the QB, but the QB did not have to move in the pocket and completed the pass for a first down. That was his BEST play of the game and only positive contribution. If the run defense does not improve much from last season and he’s playing a lot, you’ll have one of your main reasons why.

    • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:26 AM

      Is Reyes doing worse than Paea?

      • renhoekk2 - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:35 AM

        I think so. I saw at least a few plays from Paea where he got penetration into the backfield. Didn’t always bring the RB down, but at least he disrupted the play. Never seen that from Reyes.

        • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM

          I am befuddled by such varying opinions of Reyes and wonder what the Redskins staff see in him; if Reyes is so bad, why didn’t they let him go instead of Paea who is now with the Browns… Just so strange…

        • renhoekk2 - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:51 AM

          And the same for Ioannidis. Not doing great either, but at least he gets occasional penetration and gets off blocks. Both Paea and Ioannidis should be on this roster before Reyes. If Reyes makes it, the only reason possible is because Barry fought for him. I don’t get to see practices, but I watched and recorded all of the preseason games and I’ll focus on certain players when I re-watch them. I really wanted to pay attention to the DL and OL because of how bad the running game was on both sided of the ball. Just from the games they played Reyes was clearly the most disappointing of the 3. Maybe practices tell a different story, I don’t know.

        • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 12:29 PM

          I’m in complete agreement with you on this. Watching Bates and Reyes on the same side of the defense was an easy seven yard gain. But if you’re going to put it on one it has to be Reyes. I know Cooley the other day was saying that if Reyes is starting he has to be a McCloughan guy. I don’t know why it would go up from Barry to McCloughan but the bottom line is Reyes has been horrible in the parts visible to the fans.

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 12:56 PM

        Paea had a significantly bigger contract than Reyes. That’s why he was cut and Reyes wasn’t.

        Nine if these guys, except Baker, are studs. None of the will likely be part of the team’s long term plans. Maybe RJF but that’s it. So yeah, I think Paea was better than Reyes too. But they saved a couple mil off the cap for a position group that was going to be weak one way or the other.

        Reyes can’t seem to get off blocks. Ioannidis has an excuse because he’s a rookie. But Reyes probably is what he is at this point.

  14. kenlinkins - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    Rich, What is the benefit on removing Doctson from the PUP list now? Why not leave him there in order to place Everett on the 53 man roster to start the season? Five WR’s to start the season should carry them until week six. Wouldn’t Everett have a bigger impact in the first six weeks?

    • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM

      Doctson’s development which is already behind schedule. Even though he may not see a lot of game day action, Doctson needs to get lots of reps with Cousins as soon as possible. This experience is important for Doctson and the more important role he will hopefully play next season.

      If Doctson remains on PUP, my understanding is that he cannot train with team.

      The idea would be getting Everett on the 53 through some other route (which you described in fabulous fashion).

      • wvredskins - Sep 2, 2016 at 11:02 AM

        Not next season THIS season. Imo once they get doctson up to speed he will be an immediate help in red zone deep passes type plays.

        • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:51 PM

          That would be terrific; I’m just not counting on it until he’s getting extensive reps with no set-backs. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 3, 2016 at 3:23 AM

          Well yeah, once he’s up to speed he has the ability to be a top 5 receiver. But it’s going to take more than a couple weeks to get him up to speed. Probably more than a couple months too.

          I loved picking him up, this isn’t a knock, but I’m very familiar with the he offense he ran in college. I watch a lot of Big 12 football but particularly Baylor (my school) and TCU (arch rival). Doctson basically ran 2-3 routs his whole college career. One being a straight line go rout, if that even counts as a rout. And there aren’t really any options. He never had to read a DB and change the rout on the fly or really even make a move to get open. TCU’s offense uses formations and movement of personnel to get guys open. Not a double move.

          So Doctson has ALOT to learn. He’s very talented but very raw. Yeah, he can run a go, slant, and probably an out. I guess I don’t see why he couldn’t run a post or corner rout too. But the playbook and concepts are going to take time for him to digests. So yes, he can step on the field and make plays this year. But he’s not going to be anywhere near a complete receiver.

    • Rich Tandler - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM

      Doctson couldn’t even practice if he was on PUP so that’s six more weeks until he takes the practice field. Would not be a good more, would pretty much wipe out his season.

      Is an 11th DB really more useful than a 6th WR?

      If they want to keep Everett they will find another way.

      • kenlinkins - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM

        Ok, point well made by you (and 12th man), having your top draft pick waste his whole first year just doesn’t make sense if he can practice just to keep a guy who has shown he could make a NFL roster. I hate it when I allow emotion to over take common sense, which what happened here. I just really want to see Everett make this roster. My fear is that the Redskins will carry one too many guys with only a year left in the tank or who has shown that staying healthy is a concern and miss out on a young guy who IMO can help the Redskins now (and might turn into something special later). I am also buying into your idea that Sudfeld is worth keeping on the 53 man roster. While not yet ready he has shown marked improvement (footwork, timing, reading D’d) in a short time and that has value worth protecting at the QB position. So, Paulsen, Brown, Everett or 6 DL, I am starting to feel like the kid with too many girlfriends and not enough date nights to keep them all happy.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:22 PM

          I don’t see an issue with only keeping 6 DL. That’s one backup for each starter. Plus Murphy.

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:05 PM

      And Doctson could come into any game and run a go rout in his sleep. Similar to how Shannahan used Aldrick Robinson in 2012. I would imagine Doctson could run a corner fade in the redzone right now too. And that’s probably where he’s going to be the biggest help this season.

      But my point is that he can be used as soon as he’s healthy if they want. Not in a full capacity, but he could take a few snaps. Think about Desean lining up on one side of the field and Doctson on the other with Crowder in the slot and Reed at Y. You could send Doctson and Desean deep to stretch the field and open a lot for Reed and Crowder. Or just use Doctson to split 2 deep safties while Desean blows past the entire secondary. There are plenty way to use Doctson out there week 1 if they want. But I wouldn’t expect to see him looking like a complete receiver until next year.

    • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:09 PM

      Last year Everette made the initial 53-man roster only to be cut two days later and added to the practice squad a day later once all the practice squads were set. They could do the same thing with him or Sudfeld this year. The question is who could they cut instead, put on the practice squad and then elevate — which also doesn’t consider signing one of the other teams final cuts. Quinton Dunbar?

      • kenlinkins - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:16 PM

        I do wonder how they feel about Dunbar. Is he just having the “soft-more” Jinx, is he pressing to hard, or are they asking him to do more this year and he is having some trouble getting up to speed? I am just not sure what I am seeing with him right now.

        • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:24 PM

          It may be there is just stiffer competition. For the few plays Fuller has made he’s gotten beat equally in one-on-one situations. He seems to be a better zone corner. Dunbar on the other hand still struggles at zone and hasn’t been lock down in man. Still that way corners get injured, you’re better off keeping an extra corner or two than a fifth safety.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:27 PM

          All of the above probably. I can’t remember but I’m going to assume they had him play a lot of man last year. That’s a lot easier for an inexperienced CB to pick up. I’ve seen him in zone this preseason (what we prefer) and he looks lost. But that doesn’t me he will always look lost. He just needs time to learn it. THEN we find out if he’s good enough. So it’s a long road.

          But CBs are very valuable. Especially with his length. I wouldn’t risk putting Dunbar on the practice squad unless they’re very prepared to watch him go.

  15. Dcwun - Sep 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM

    Every team has a Sudfeld on their roster currently. No team will look at what he’s done in preseason and determine he’s good enough for a spot on the 53. There is ZERO chance he doesn’t make it through waivers and last on the PS where he belongs…….

    • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 11:00 AM

      Even if Sudfeld makes it to the practice squad, couldn’t another team sign him to their regular roster at some point during the season (unlikely I would think but still a possibility right)?

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 1:13 PM

        Yeah but we could do the same thing to any practice squad. I mean there comes a point where you have to let some of these guys go. See them for who they really are and move on. Sudfield is not that special and likely won’t ever even be a primary backup. There’s a reason he lasted until late in the 6th round.

        What’s going on here is exactly why Hardknocks is such a successful show. If you only watch one team and get to know one roster you start to think those players are special and better than they really are. You start to see the potential in these underdogs and hope they find a way to make it. But those guys almost all get cut in the end and reality sets in. A lot of them are never claimed by anyone. Because they were never really that good to begin with. Yeah, they flashed on screen in preseason games against similar caliber players. But they would get embarrassed against real NFL starters. It’s OK to let those guys go. We can’t keep them all.

        • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 5:21 PM

          I know the odds are against Sudfield, but I feel it’s too early to rule him out as ever being a primary backup. Both Brady and Rypien were 6th round picks and they went well beyond that point in their careers.

        • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM

          @ redskins12thman,

          How is cutting Sudfeld giving up on Sudfeld?

          The Bears drafted David Fales in the 6th round back in 2014 with the 183rd pick. (Sudfeld was the 187th this year.) They then waived Fales in final cuts that year and signed him to the practice squad. Then activated him in December 2014 (presumably so some team wouldn’t snatch him). He then was waived again in final cuts in 2015. They signed him to their practice squad again. Then they activated him in week 3. Waived him again in week 6. Immediately signed him to practice squad again. They activated him week 12 (November) for the rest of the season. He still hasn’t taken an NFL pass attempt and I’m not sure how many games if any he’s made the active 45.

          The point is that this is more likely Sudfeld’s future and SHOULD be. The Bears haven’t given up on Fales yet and he’s not taking up any space. Sudfield hasn’t shown anything that suggests that you want him anywhere near the field in a game of consequence. Sure he’s big, shows poise in the pocket, and apparently has an arm — not that he’s shown much with it.

          Now, the Redskins showed last year that they could get by with just seven inactive roster spots and zero need for a 3rd QB despite all the team injuries. Griffin only dressed for the Jets game because there were too many injured players that they had to activate him. So if they want to keep Sudfeld, they could and it would have minimal impact. Still,it was an impact and one that isn’t necessary.

        • redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:46 PM

          My comments were related to Trey’s point that: “I mean there comes a point where you have to let some of these guys go. See them for who they really are and move on. Sudfield (sic) is not that special and likely won’t ever even be a primary backup.” I know the odds are against Sudfeld but I also feel it’s too early to tell.

          But to address your point, Trying to place a player on the practice squad is definitely not giving up on a player; on the contrary, it’s a way to continue investing in him.

          I have no opinion on whether the Redskins should or should no place Sudfeld on waivers and then place him on the practice; however my gut doesn’t believe the Redskins will do that this month / beginning of this season.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 3, 2016 at 3:14 AM

          To maybe clarify something 12: I think it’s way too early to give up on Sudfield too. In fact, I like him. It’s easy to look at his measurables and see potential. That does matter, especially the height. But I mostly like what I saw when I looked back at some of his college “tape.” (What’s a less pretentious way to say I watched some highlights on YouTube?). He ran a semi-pro type offense in college and did well. It seemed natural for him. So I think the transition to the NFL is the natural progression. His coach also said Nate could peer over the O-line and diagnose a college defense. Now, that’s his coach, you could argue it’s his job to say that. But A) anyone who had actual game tape could figure out if that’s BS real quick and call coach out and B) I’ve been in, watched, and written about quite a few press conferences and interviews with Art Briles and I don’t recall him EVER saying that about any of his QBs. Including Heisman Trophy winner RG3. A college coach simply wouldn’t say that if his QB ran a spread that doesn’t prepare his QB for the pros; like Baylor’s.

          So, I like Nate plenty. I just know how long the odds are and I know how much rebuilding this team has to do in other areas. We need that roster spot to figure out the future of those other positions. QB is simple: Cousins either works out and is our guy for at least the next 5 years or we’re either drafting a QB high in 2017, signing a free agent to start, or making a trade. Because Sudfield is likely years away from even being a backup. It’s either Cousins or we start over.

          And I want to “cut” him to put him on the practice squad. As we all just established, that’s not giving up on him. And I personally find it highly unlikely he gets claimed.

        • bangkokben - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:52 PM


          My gut agrees with you. My head just doesn’t think it’s necessary. My prediction: makes the initial 53, later waived, and added to the practice squad.

  16. Jeffrey - Sep 2, 2016 at 11:08 AM

    No they shouldn’t use rb by committee, everyone got on Matt Jones case last year when it doesn’t work most of the time in the NFL. It’s too hard to get into your zone as they say, because most of the time you don’t know when your number is going to be called, making easier to become distracted an not focus.Point being is it just doesn’t work, so I wouldn’t use that approach again this year, best man goes. Mack Brown all the way.

    • Rich Tandler - Sep 2, 2016 at 11:55 AM

      What do you mean it doesn’t work? If you want to play running back in the NFL in 2016, you’d better be focused and ready to go at all times.

      The champion Broncos and the Patriots, Panthers, Packers, and others used RBBC to some degree. It’s a perfectly valid way of operating.

    • nikoknight - Sep 2, 2016 at 3:44 PM

      Rich is exactly right. And Mack Brown all the way? No doubt the guy played great against TB, but don’t fall victim. Not saying that he hasn’t played well, but if anyone deserves carries week one, it’s Kelly. The guy has played well all pre-season, and in my opinion, has looked pretty good in pass protection. Now I do think if Brown gets cut, he will get picked up. I just think that these NFL guys are human and someone out there will just look at the TB game. So I do think if they really value Brown he needs to be on the roster. But I definitely see nothing wrong with RBBC. Play the hot hand.

      • Trey Gregory - Sep 2, 2016 at 5:04 PM

        Good post Niko. You’re dead on about Kelley and Brown. Kelley deserves to be the third running back and his pass protection is a big part of why.

        But I don’t think it’s likely Brown gets picked up if we put him on the PS. He could, I just don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion. There’s so many RBs like him out there about to get cut and signed to practice squads. Yes, NFL evaluators are human and made mistakes. But there’s people on every team who do nothing but watch other team’s players to evaluate potential trades or giys to pick up. They’ve all already watched Kelley’s first three games as well as the fourth. They will do their due diligence and watch every bit of tape they can find on him.

        You’re right that preseason games are a trap. Mediocre players suddenly look great and bad players look good. Especially in the fourth preseason game. But just like you and I aren’t going to fall into that trap, neither will another team’s scouting department.

  17. redskins12thman - Sep 2, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    What would it take for the Vikings to pry McCoy away from us? Herschel Walker terms?

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 3, 2016 at 3:27 AM

      That’s a dangerous proposition for both teams. Redskins no longer have a backup (Nate isn’t even close to ready for that) and it would probably cost a lot for the Vikings to pry him from us. Like a 2nd because he’s our only good option at backup. But Colt isn’t worth that. And that’s a significant investment for a one year rental. What do you do with Colt once Teddy comes back? And why not negotiate with Philly or NY? They each have 3 or 4 guys they like and may want to ether dump a salary or just get anything before they cut one.

      • redskins12thman - Sep 3, 2016 at 5:30 AM

        All great points. I’m thinking at least a couple 2nd rounders and 1-2 additional lower draft picks might entice Scot McCloughan.

        Both Vikings and Cowboys have strong offensive lines and running backs. Even though Dak Prescott is only a rookie, I think the Cowboys are comfortable starting Prescott; I’m not so sure about the Vikings comfort level with Hill even though he is a long-time NFL veteran. I’m sure teams playing Minnesota will be saying beat me with the pass.

        I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Jets drop either Smith or Petty and the Vikings giving the available player a try… what do they have to lose…. but the Cowboys have the waiver priority. The Vikings will probably wait to see what the Cowboys leave them and then consider trading options if necessary.

        • Trey Gregory - Sep 3, 2016 at 5:41 AM

          Keep in mind Petty was hurt in the fourth preseason game and Boles named Geno the 2nd QB yesterday. The Jets could conceivably put Petty on IR now. But I know Brice Petty (the player, not the person) very well and there’s no way he’s ready to play yet. He needed 2-3 full years on the bench when he was drafted. He was that raw.

          And yeah, a couple seconds for Colt McCoy? I would take that in a heart beat. I would sign the papers before the Vikings sobered up from whatever drugs they were on and realized that’s a HUGE mistake ;)

          Seriously though, Colt isn’t worth that unless they honest to god believe he’s the starter for the foreseeable future. Look what the Broncos paid for Sanchez; who technically has had significantly more success in the NFL than Colt. McCoy is a good backup. He has my full confidence in that role. But that’s about it. Archives

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