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Need to Know: Redskins stock up/stock down vs. Jets

Aug 20, 2016, 7:08 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, August 20, 14 days before the Washington Redskins cut their roster to 53 players.

Timeline

Today’s schedule: Off day, no availability

—The Redskins last played a game that counted 223 days ago. It will be 23 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Final roster cut 14; Cowboys @ Redskins 29; Browns @ Redskins 43

Stock up/stock down vs. Jets

Here are the players who excelled and those who stumbled against the Jets last night at FedEx Field:

UpRashad Ross caught four passes for 58 yards and two touchdowns. The second TD was a highlight reel catch as he fought the ball away from the defender in the end zone.

Down—Yes, quarterback Nate Sudfeld led the game-winning drive. But before that he had played the entire second half and had just eight yards passing before that drive. Good for him getting the job done at the end but overall his day was subpar.

UpMartrell Spaight was given a chance to start at Mike linebacker and he looked like he belonged with four tackles and a forced fumble.

DownSpencer Long was beaten by the Jets line too many times and he committed a penalty in the end zone that cost the team a safety.

UpDeshazor Everett made a pair of big stops on special teams and forced a fumble in the fourth quarter, a pay that prevented a Jets touchdown.

Down—With Matt Jones sidelined, Keith Marshall was unable to lay claim to the backup running back job. He had 10 carries for 26 yards, a 2.6 average.

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  1. colmac69 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:19 AM

    Looked like running game was lot better on first couple series at least….gd push by line and jones running well (disappointment he got inj tho)

    Apart from the int McCoy looked sharp on first series……pens still a problem tho especially as they negated couple big plays….

    Defense did job on jets starting offense but it’s hard to get proper gauge on things overall….

    Win is a win but not really relevant in grand scheme of things pre season….

    • Mr.moneylover - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:02 PM

      Yea the run game will improve when our 0-line improve when the o-line open up holes its easy to gain yards for matt Jones but when you gotta force a hole because the O-line not doing they job it can be very difficult to run the ball no matter who it is…Alfred morris looking good now because that o-line open up a big hole for him to run threw and his job become more easy redskins O-line gotta do the same if they want the run game to work at a high level

  2. bk70 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:32 AM

    Rich, I’d like to add another “UP” – Coach Gruden decision to rest key players and give more playing time to rest.
    This move will improve the final 53 cut down decisions.

    I would like to see more of our second tier DBs. CBs Fuller, Dunbar and Phillips with Safeties Cravens and Everett seem to be a good combination. This is a hungry group.

    Still trying to figure out the DL rotations however. Not sure who are the “crunch time” players. Keep watch.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:58 AM

      @bk70 Gruden’s decision to rest starters after a week with just one full practice will be judged in hindsight. If they play well in the first two weeks then you can say that it worked. If the start 0-2 at home you will have to question if they had enough preparation for the season.

      • cowboyhater - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM

        There’s no hindsight here…..One meaningless preseason game will not make or break the start of the season. They have gone through an entire offseason of voluntary workouts and training camp, and not to mention probably playing 3 qtrs. of football next week that will get these veterans ready for the season. We are talking vets here Rich, not rookies who need the reps. If they start 0-2 it will be due to playing teams who are just better than they are. Not whether or not they did or did not play in the 2 preseason game. Just my opinion…not trying to disrespect your point.

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Aug 20, 2016 at 9:54 AM

          They have gone through an entire offseason of voluntary workouts and training camp

          Those didn’t involve live tackling. For more on that issue, this is as good a link as any.

          http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/11009309/shorter-nfl-offseason-restrictions-hamper-coaches

          The starters will play one half, max, next week, and probably not at all in the 4th preseason game.
          ~

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:30 PM

          Everybody needs reps. Everybody gets rusty and needs to get back into it. If they didn’t then why do any of the 32 teams start any veterans at all? Why do veterans even attend camp if they don’t need any reps? Why not just give everyone who’s played 3 or more seasons the whole summer off? They’ll just pick it right back up where they left off week 1 won’t they?

          The playbook changes a bit every offseason. Sometimes more than a bit. They need to practice those plays over and over so they’re instinctive. They need to block against elite talent and play against different looks. The notion that vets don’t needs reps is completely absurd.

  3. sidepull - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:34 AM

    Never going to like seeing Alf scoring TDs for Dallas. And I am not warming up to the idea that Jones was handed the starting position without proving he deserves it. On the bench during the playoff loss to the Pack and now injured again, and fumbled. What a great spot to be in. Hope some other back who is durable can overtake this guy. I know, he looked good, before he fumbled, before he got injured….

    • goback2rfk - Aug 20, 2016 at 9:21 AM

      Alf looking good. Dang, come on back Alf, I am sorry about those bad things I said about you. It was not Alf at all that was the problem it is the terrible run blocking Offensive Line we have.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:03 PM

        Yes. Yes should help running game this season too, but Al and Christine Michael are doing just fine with their new times. We all knew it was risky to go with just Jones and Thompson. Redskins have good track record of finding RBs so I am not worried (yet). Would like real competition at Center and Left Guard.

        • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:05 PM

          Meant to say TEs should help running game this season too…and Al and Michael are doing find with new teams…

        • chimps000 - Aug 20, 2016 at 1:48 PM

          “would like real competition at RB and LG”

          couldn’t agree with you
          more- the two most suspect spots on offensive 11 and we did next to nothing to address the depth and talent at the position- granted you can’t address all weaknesses, but…

          other major position weakness was DLine, and for that we brought in a few guys off the scrap heap…

          going to be an interesting year- I get that you can’t fix all
          the holes in an offseason, but it’s hard to see how we addressed the 3 biggest weaknesses on the team at all… scott hit on mason foster last year, maybe a guy off the scrap heap can pull a mason foster at RB or LG, but I would say odds aren’t great.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:32 PM

          Karlos Williams guys. It’s like divine intervention for our run game. Seriously. He’s not going to rush for 2,000 yards but he could help make us respectable.

        • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM

          Worth a flyer on Williams for sure, however he may be really out of shape…. but with suspension, he would have a chance to challenge for roster spot. A more challenging reclamation project than Amerson for sure…

  4. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:49 AM

    Kendal Thompson has a huge crowd at WR in front of him before he can make this team, but credit him with consecutive awesome grabs to end the game.
    ~

  5. redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:57 AM

    Due to Jones and Thompson frailty, need to pick up strong 3rd RB; don’t know if we wait for roster cuts to see if we pick up back then. Marshall and Kelley need year on practice squad.

    Was that a real penalty on Long in the end zone or a bad call?

    Hopefully can talk Deshazor Everett into taking practice squad spot if not claimed off waivers; I think Blackmon has upper leg on final safety spot. Thompson and Harris may be good for practice squad.

    Unsure who is playing better — Bruton or Ihenacho. Bruton’s missed tackle gave up first big play on defense.

    Reyes, Jensen and Cravens were very quiet in the game right? Anyone see whether they were thumbs up or down? Goldson and Cofield thumbs down?

    Wish Reiter and Paea had chance to play against starters. Harder to evaluate them.

    • rtcwon - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:05 PM

      I think they are wanting for cuts not Thomas at RB.

      Looked like Long had the jersey not the face mask so possibly could have called holding but that could be called on every play. Also the DL had Long’s face early. Refs need preseason too!

      I’ve been very down on Long but he’s looking a lot better. I’m not ready for him to start over Lauvao but he’s looked good at Center.

      Blackmon really stepped it up this week so Everett came out and really stepped up. Fourth and fifth safeties are playing better than the best safety the last few years! Duke is playing great, I would be surprised if Bruton continues to start.

      The DL continues to be just a bunch of guys after Baker & Golson who have separated. Reyes & Hood are getting reps against the ones while Paea again did nothing with threes against threes…

      Cofield had a rough night. I can’t see Reiter beating Arie for 8th and final OL spot.

  6. redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    Rich, forgot to add, I feel you are really hard on Sudfeld. The guy is just starting out at one of the most difficult positions to adjust to from college. Sudfeld’s main long-term issue is consistency but shows a lot of promise to his game otherwise. Hard for me to give a thumbs down already to him.

    • bangkokben - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:21 AM

      If he’s going to force the Redskins to keep three QBs, regardless of his experience, it’s thumbs down. He can continue to make strides on the practices squad.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM

        With dearth of QBs, I think it is too risky to see if Sudfeld clears waivers and makes it to practice squad. We’ll see what Redskins decide to do.

        • bangkokben - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:26 PM

          Here, we disagree. Would a team rather have Sudfeld be their 3rd string developmental QB or Bryce Petty or Geno Smith as their 2nd or 3rd string? The Jets didn’t even play Christian Hackenberg, their 2nd round draft choice and there’s no way they’re keeping 4 QBs.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:36 PM

          Petty is most likely getting cut though. He’s the obvious odd man out.

          I agree that it’s not so risky to try Sudfield through waivers, and that’s just one more reason why. Bunches of QBs like Sudfield and Petty will be out through waivers soon. Sudfield is really not a rare kind of prospect. Just about every team in the league has a guy like him. Unless they’re truly not looking for a QB, in which case, they won’t be stealing him. That’s not a knock on Sudfield. I like his potential. It’s just reality as to where he really is in his development. I would rather keep Toler and risk putting Nate through waivers.

        • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:11 PM

          Yeah I can’t see the Jets keeping 4 QBs – either Petty or Smith will be waived is my guess.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 3:11 AM

          As crazy as it sounds, they’re nuts if they cut Geno. I couldn’t stand him coming out of college and I can’t stand him now. Meanwhile, Petty played for my school and had them ranked in the top 5. So this isn’t personal. It’s just that Geno is the only other QB on that roster with regular season experience. I never believed in Geno but he does fit the NFL better than Petty (who I don’t think will ever be a NFL QB). Hackenberg is the potential future of that teams but with Fitz’s injury history, they need a guy with some experience.

          If someone is willing to put years of work into Petty then maybe he can be a viable backup or even shock me and start. But no way the Jets are that patient with Hackenberg on the roster now.

  7. goback2rfk - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    The running situation has gotten desperate. They are going to have to bring someone else in. Its bad enough when Jones is your starting back but the depth of this squad is laughable. The RB squad is of the worse in the entire NFL. The GM did not get it done when it comes to the RB position. And now you got Alfred Morris looking like a ProBowler running behind that powerful Dallas Offensive Line. And Rg3 rejuvenating his career flicking 50 yard bombs. They need to bring in a veteran or something.

    • rtcwon - Aug 20, 2016 at 12:12 PM

      The RB position is so unimportant, it never can be desperate.

      And who cares what those guys are doing until they play us? I want to see them do well but them doing so has absolutely nothing to do with this team.

      • chimps000 - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:18 PM

        don’t agree that the RB position is unimportant- I do think there are only maybe 5-10 guys who are major difference makers, but you still need a guy who is a legit NFL starting RB, and we are unsure that we have one on the roster.

        I don’t miss Alfred Morris at all, I wish him well except when he plays us, but the guy looked slow and lacked the finishing power last year that he had previously shown- and those two abilities had nothing to do with the blocking of the oline.

        • rtcwon - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:59 PM

          My point is there will be three or four (young) guys cut who can provide whatever is needed out of the RB position. While most teams struggle to find serviceable OL and DBs to start. So yes, supply and demand dictate RB is unimportant.

  8. cowboyhater - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:59 AM

    There are some major holes in this team, but I think we knew this before they went to training camp. Now it’s become a glaring issue. Is Ray Rice still available? I know I’m grasping here, but I can guarantee you he would probably look more competent then the guys we currently have on this roster. We better hope Lavou (sorry I don’t know the spelling of his name} get healthy real quick and is effective, because Cousins will be running for his life. Too much pressure up the middle is exposing the weakness of this line. D-line is too small and come regular season we will get pushed off the ball. The LB’s will be very busy (I know in a 3-4 that’s idea but not 5 yrds down the field). Also, where was the pass rush against Fitzpatrick? I know we are staying generic up front, but I did not see any push from the DL. So everything we talked about being a weakness this year is coming to fruition in preseason. It’s going to be interesting to see how all this plays out. All I can hope for is that we come out swinging next week, and they look like a machine.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:41 PM

      The Ray Rice stuff needs to die. He would be on a team of he still had the potential. He got old and hit a wall guys, that’s why he’s not in the league anymore. Not domestic violence. He was playing poorly, on a good team, before that incident. Now he’s two years idler and hasn’t played for two seasons. You want to see if Jerry Rice can still play too? They can have a snazzy nickname like “Ray J Rice: the old Orient Express. Sponsored by AARP.” As long as they take their calcium and Ovaltine supplements I’m sure it will be fine.

      There are numerous other guys for us to target who would be better.

  9. goback2rfk - Aug 20, 2016 at 9:11 AM

    Everyone needs to play in the 3rd Pre-Season game. Has Josh Norman even take a pre-season snap. I do not like this plan on not playing everyone. Even Cousins needs some reps. Wtf. Gruden, step it up.

    • bangkokben - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:28 AM

      Why?
      Norman has played three snaps.
      The Redskins will be good to go by the 2nd half of the Steeler game.

  10. hail74 - Aug 20, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    Man there’s a lot of gloom and doom on here today. Why are folks upset about starters not playing in these games? The next CBA will almost certainly only have a two game preseason. Also I see no hurry in bringing in another RB. We all anticipate PT being signed once week one ends anyway. Why not wait for roster cuts to see what’s available? The games don’t count for two more weeks.

    • ajbus1 - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:49 AM

      Always gotta be somebody complaining.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:44 PM

      Think again. Check the TV ratings for the preseason games. That’s where these decesions are really made. Same reason why the Pro Bowl isn’t going anywhere. More people watch these things than some World Series games (I’m not exaggerating).

      The league didn’t lose any money by cutting practice time. They would lose money cutting the preseason games. Which means less cap increase. Which means less money for the players. The 4 preseason games are staying until people stop watching.

      • hail74 - Aug 20, 2016 at 5:21 PM

        My reasoning for the reduction of preseason would be an 18 game season. The players want neither, or at least they say they don’t, but turning two preason games into regular season games would substantially raise the value of tv contracts in the future and as you said, increase the cap.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:17 PM

          I don’t see the regular season expanding. I could swear I even heard Godell recently say that wasn’t even on the table (I could be imagining things though). But they probably will expand the post season. I personally don’t see why they would want to expand the regular season. Just an opportunity for more injuries before the post season.

          Still, they’ll add but they won’t take away. They’re not going to take money off the table. Maybe they’ll play the starters in one or two less preseason games, but that’s a team decesion.

  11. Jerel Jackson - Aug 20, 2016 at 10:43 AM

    I think it’s time to look at some RB’s out there now not saying to take Matt jones spot but to be ready just in case. I didn’t like the fumble it seem like a pretty good handoff to me so I don’t know what happen there an now he’s injured its unfortunate but I would like to see us go out there grab somebody. Also I wouldn’t give Nate a thumbs down I would say he still learning, I mean he is a rookie only reason why we feel that way cause he played well last week but as you can see last week he matured because he had the same secnario as last week to win the game and what happen he did it so I think we are to hard on him. Also i would give Kendall fuller a thumbs up yes he got beat bad but he kept his composure and was still out there and was still making. he had alot of pass breakups. I wish Sua’ Cravens showed up more but it’s okay I know what we are getting out of him I see a pro bowler coming soon. Last but not least matrell spaight I don’t know about you guys but he’s looking like he wants to take a crack at taken somebody spot to start. That’s all I have lol

    • sidepull - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM

      Yea Spaight. I have been pulling for that young man. He is going to be on the field a lot I hope.

      • rtcwon - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:55 PM

        Let’s hope not. Yes, he showed he is a capable back up but Compton is so much better. And his knowledge of personnel & formation tendencies is the difference maker on this D. The facts that they’re so deep in the secondary and starting DL and pass rushers aren’t much to begin with makes Compton exponentially the most important player on D. And you want to see his back up on the field a lot?

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 20, 2016 at 2:47 PM

      That fumble was on Colt. Theisman was at least right about that.

      But it is time to look at other RBs. It was time in April. There are a few guys to look at. Bishop Sankey could be a cut or the Titans may be willing to trade him for a player we planned to cut anyway (like maybe Perry Riley). Karlos Williams was also cut but comes with a 4 game suspension. He’s the one I personally think we should target though.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM

        I want the Redskins to keep Riley for this season; I believe he will contribute to the Redskins. I hope Redskins can keep Toler too; if not, it would be great to trade him. I guarantee you that Toler will be on a NFL roster this season, perhaps even in division (e.g., Giants).

        I would wait until Titans release Sankey.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 3:03 AM

          There’s no guarantee we get Sankey (or any other player) if they’re cut. But we could lock them up in a trade. So the reasoning behind Riley was to trade him to a team who needs ILB help (like Tennessee) IF we planned to cut him anyway, for a player they planned on cutting anyway. Each team could just try to grab them after they’re cut, but there’s no guarantee they land them. So they help each other out with a trade.

          I get some people like Riley. I have nothing against him. But he’s getting paid way too much to be a backup. If he can’t win the starting job, with Cravens, Spaight, and Garcin as backups, then he’s probably getting cut. I’m not advocating for him to not be on the team. I’m just saying there’s a real chance they cut him. And if that’s the case, maybe we could snag a RB with a trade in the process. It’s a long shot, Riley won’t have much trade value (especially with that contract), but it’s worth a shot.

          And Sankey could be the 3rd RB btw. Antonio Andrews is the more likely cut.

      • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 3:06 AM

        Oh and I’m kind of walking back what I said about Williams. I reacted too soon. Didn’t realize he showed up to camp out of shape and the Bills were having issues with him before the suspension. We don’t need a guy like that.

        Now, maybe the cut wakes him up (like Amerson). Maybe McCloughan talks to him and feels he can trust him (like Galette). If so, I’ll be happy to have him. But I’m thinking he’s a long shot for McCloughan to sign now.

  12. Mr.moneylover - Aug 20, 2016 at 3:49 PM

    Stock up – robert kelly – improved from last week instead of him hitting the hole soft he hit it hard to gain postive yards
    Stock down – Kendrick gholston – I still see no penetration from the NT postion
    Stock up – mack brown – he had 2 solid pre-season games and dont get talk about alot
    Stock up – Martrell spaight – this guy might end up taking somebody job during the season if he keep playing the way he is

    And for the ppl who complain about jay gruden sitting starters your stupid because why not give the backup more playing time they not gonna play much during the season anyway and if they do you want them to be ready at any given time its a very smart move by jay gruden now he got game tape of his backups so we can add more solid depth who is improving ? And who is not

    • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:51 PM

      The issue for me is that I want Kelly, Brown or Marshall to show really well given frailty of Jones and Thompson. I think all three rookies show something but not at the level the Redskins would need if either Jones or Thompson got injured in the first or second game of the season. I expect the Redskins to check the waiver wire for RB and to consider options along with Thomas.

    • rtcwon - Aug 20, 2016 at 5:03 PM

      Golston had penetration just about every snap he played. Him & Baker have clearly separated from the rest of the DL as the only guys who any other team would want. It’s the rest of the DL that are just guys. Even Crawford, who dominated threes last year but struggled against twos, has been invisible.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 21, 2016 at 2:12 AM

        Good to hear on Goldson! I thought RJF was doing well too?

      • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 2:56 AM

        I’ve only gotten about halfway through the second quarter but I haven’t seen Golston penetrate once. And that’s not a knock on him, he’s a nose tackle. His job isn’t to penetrate, it’s to eat up two blockers. And he’s doing exactly that. I think I saw him as a 3 technique a couple times, but he definitely didn’t get penetration there. Still, he’s holding it down just fine as a nose tackle. He’s not doing anything crazy, but he’s adequate.

        Baker does look great. Really Murphy looks pretty good. Not great, but good. Smith seems to be progressing well. Reyes really doesn’t look bad either. He’s nothing to get excited about but he’s doing his job. I haven’t seen Paea, RJF, Hood, or Ioannidis yet. But their first 3 did well week 1. Especially RJF and Hood. I would like to see them against the 1s though. Ioannidis didn’t not impress me even a little bit. He seems to be more of a project than some thought he would be.

        But can you tell me what you’re talking about with Crawford? When was he dominating people? There seems to be a typo in that part of your post so maybe that’s why I’m confused.

  13. Mr.moneylover - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:05 PM

    Not impress with our D-line yet im happy chris baker got a sack tho…everybody else is still a ?

    • redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 4:47 PM

      Seems like Baker, RJF and Hood have gotten decent pre-season reviews. Have not heard much about how Goldson, Reyes, Paea and Ioannidis have played in games. I wonder if Goldson, Reyes or Paea could get cut? I wonder if Ioannidis could get placed on practice squad?

  14. redskins12thman - Aug 20, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    Practice squad candidate guess (if they clear waivers; I believe only 4 2nd year payers can make it):

    Carlos Fields (2nd year, a virtual lock)

    Lynden Trail (1st year) or Willie Jefferson (2nd year)

    Lloyd Carrington or Mariel Cooper (0 or 1 spot)

    Deshazor Everett (2nd year) or Geno Matias-Smith (1 or 2 spots – may take two safeties and 0 CBs?)

    Corey Crawford or Antony Lanier (1 spot)

    Marcel Jensen (2nd year, his spot to lose)

    Takoby Cofield (his spot to lose; is he losing it to Reiter or someone else?)

    Robert Kelley, Keith Marshall or Mack Brown (1 to 2 spots); may sign waived RB due to Jones’ injury

    Maurice Harris or Kendal Thomspon, both with slight edge over T.J. Thorpe (1 spot)

  15. mightyjester - Aug 20, 2016 at 6:38 PM

    My bold predictions:
    1. Marshall breaks out in games 3-4 to become starter at RB
    2. D Hall makes a bunch of huge plays at safety
    3. Baker becomes a 10 sack guy
    4. If Kirk wants too much money we go a year with Colt
    5.Gruden can no longer keep Rashad Ross off the field for some reason. He becomes a playmaker this year
    6. Gruden is finally seen as an idiot when Robert sets the NFL on fire again because he looked amazing

    • goback2rfk - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:59 PM

      If Rob plays well and we lose at home Week 4 I would say Gruden is fired at the end of the year.

      • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 2:33 AM

        Oh stop being so dramatic. They’re going to fire a coach based off one game? And what? Hire Hue Jackson and try to get RG3 back? You think they’re going to undo all the progress they’ve maid because of one game (possibly a trap game) and because fans can get over RG3? Should they fire McCloughan if Morris makes the pro bowl and the Cowboys beat us? What would be the point of firing Gruden because the Browns beat us? To just be incredibly immature, spiteful, and short sighted? I swear I would just stop rooting for this team and go bandwagon a team with an owner with a damn if they did that. And not because I’m in love with Gruden or anything. But because that would be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of and any organization that ridiculous and petty doesn’t deserve my support. Thankfully, this isn’t the WWE. Teams don’t make soap opera type decesions based on one player on a different team. I think it’s safe to say I’ll be a Redskins fan for a long while.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 21, 2016 at 2:47 AM

      Chris Baker might make first team all pro if he gets 10 sacks. 10 sacks from a 3-4 DE is highly unusual.

      I don’t know what you’ve seen from Keith Marshall to make you think he’ll even make the roster, but he’s been just awful. The guy has no vision and no talent other than running in a straight line. The only thing he’s breaking out of is the NFL and into the unemployment office.

      It’s not a bold prediction if it’s circumstantial. That’s like saying “I think Matt Jones will be really good if he rushes for 2,000 yards.” But either way, they’re not letting Cousins walk unless he has a bad season. Colt McCoy seems like a really nice guy but he doesn’t even look like a starter in the preseason. He’s a fine backup but they would be moronic to go into the season with him as the starter. We found the franchise QB guys. Just be happy about that and move on.

      Rashad Ross is a bad WR. That’s why he’s not on the field. Truly, he’s just not good. He took plenty of snaps last year when Jackson was injured. You just maybe didn’t notice because he was invisible out there. All that speed and he still couldn’t get open. He might as well just be listed as a return specialist. He’s actually looking pretty decent there. I get it, you look at guys like Marshall and Ross, see fast 40 times, maybe a couple good preseason plays, and think youve found the next great Redskin. But I promise, if you actually focused on these guys from them lining up, all the way through the play, watch what they do, and focus on their fundamentals: you would see they’re hot garbage. You would see what the coaches see.

      But I also see you’re another person who likes to overreact to a preseason game and predict that a coach is going to get fired based on a player on another team. And Gruden is the idiot? Really? I noticed neither of you mentioned that Washington would need to lose a certain amount of games for him to get fired. So if the Redskins go 11-5 but RG3 has a great year you still think Gruden gets fired? Stop. Just stop.

      • mightyjester - Aug 21, 2016 at 6:30 PM

        Ross did not make the field as much as you think. Grant took Desean’s place at Y because Ross only knew X which is Garcon’s spot.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 22, 2016 at 2:58 AM

          I think you meant Z. Y is the TE.

          But Ross got on the field exactly as much as I think because that’s not an opinion of mine or anything, I watched the games (I watch every game at least once. First full speed just for fun then later I watch it in segments. Usually rewinding and focusing on every player every play. Takes me forever but I get a good look at everyone) and earlier this offseason I looked up his snap counts to make sure I was remembering correctly.

          The guy cant play man. He will flash against 3rd stringers and vanilla defenses in the preseason but he doesn’t do well in normal games.

          I admit he has a bit more talent than I originally game him credit for (if you think I’m bashing him now….), and I always give players room to improve, but I think he is what he is at this point: a competent return man and a bad WR who either belongs buerried on the depth chart just to play special teams or on a practice squad. He has questionable hands, is inconsistent, and for all his speed can’t ever seem to get open. I’m sure he can run a go rout as well as anybody but he has to be more than that.

          And, honestly, Ross should be able play Z just fine. He’s a prototypical Z receiver. We put guys in the position and call them that all the time, but it doesn’t make them those things. An X receiver should be bigger and more physical than Ross. He’s bounced around on multiple teams and was the 5th or 6th receiver last year. He should know all the positions.

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