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Need to Know: The Redskins week that was—The preseason begins

Aug 13, 2016, 4:05 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, August 13, six days before the Washington Redskins play the New York Jets at FedEx Field.

Timeline

Today’s schedule: Fan Appreciation Day at Bon Secours Training Center. Practice 1:35; player availability and Jay Gruden news conference after practice, approx. 3:30

—The Redskins last played a game that counted 216 days ago. It will be 30 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Final roster cut 21; Cowboys @ Redskins 36; Browns @ Redskins 50

The Redskins week that was

Redskins release first depth chart—The Redskins go to great pains to let everyone know that the depth chart they release is unofficial. Jay Gruden said that he wouldn’t even had a depth chart up in his office until the third preseason game. But we still find out some nuggets like Trent Murphy’s position change. And fans, to be sure, are interested.

Stock up/down vs. Falcons—Preseason games aren’t about the final score, they are about how well the individual players perform. After every one I do a quick analysis of who stuck out as being good and bad.

Projecting the Redskins’ 53-man roster—This topic always generates some discussion and disagreement. This time the most controversial aspect was my exclusion of a certain running back. And after another few days of practice and a preseason game I’ve started to change who I think will be in and out (although I’m still on the fence about that running back).

Gruden reveals emergency QB plans—Fans are always curious about subjects like this. Who is it? Click on the post to find out.

Redskins practice report—Day 9—This was from last Sunday. Among the highlights here were Mack Brown and a good two-minute drill led by Cousins. Among the lowlights were josh LeRibeus’ shotgun snaps and Arie Kouandjio struggling in one-on-one blocking.

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Aug 13, 2016 at 6:14 AM

    As many have said no injuries (except Paul Hyperextension) as a result of 60 minutes of game speed is outstanding! Hope Paul is OK. He will be a play maker for us this year if he is healthy. Having Reed, Paul, Davis and Paulson is going to be huge for us. Add Carrier and Jensen for depth and we are looking great at TE.

    A poster had pointed out here by asking a question, “we’re they loading up the box to stop the run?” The answer was yes. And they would not typically do that in a real game with our first string passing attack. So that could account for our first team not being able to run the ball well. I hope they can fix the run blocking. Is it possible the reason Callahan looked so great in Dallas because his talent was off the charts? Is it possible he is at the top end of our line running the ball due to Kory and Long? Just not sure but our line was horrible establishing the run. Literally no improvement from last year. Now Willoams was not there. But I am really concerned on Williams not being healthy. He seems to have this training camp issue with starting the season healthy. Happened a number of years now. Hope he is healthy for the 16+ games. Worried about that knee that everyone is playing down. Is that the same knee he had the procedure on last year when Kerrigan had his? Not good.

    Murphy was getting off the ball great and shooting deep into the passing area but could not turn the corner on the tackle. His anticipation of the snap was great. He just needs to learn that bend that Von does to turn the corner. He was 5 feet behind the passer on most plays and was in the backfield before the line got off the ball on most snaps. If he learns it watch out.

    HTTR!

    • redskins12thman - Aug 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM

      The Redskins will not keep 6 TEs; I think only 4. I hope Carrier can stay on the PUP for as long as possible; if not, he will probably get released. I hope Jensen will make the practice squad but there’s a good chance another team will pick him up.

      Paul is key because I’m unsure whether Davis will be a reliable pass catcher. Balls should continue to be thrown to Davis and Paulsen during the pre-season games; Paul should work on his run blocking skills as he could have done better against the Falcons.

      The O-line did a decent job at pass protection last season. I seriously doubt, opposing defenses are going to approach the Redskins with a “beat us with the pass but we’ll stop your run” mentality. In pre-season, I’m expecting somewhere between 30-34 yards (and hoping for 35+) on the first 8 carries, not 0. Many of us thought the team should invest in a new Center and Left Guard this off-season, but no move was made presumably because the Redskins didn’t feel there was any value there versus the members currently on the squad. Doc Walker thought Williams may have a bunion problem.

      No one was outplaying Murphy as the 3rd OLB that’s why he was moved back.

      Rich, as I wrote when I first saw the 2nd version of 53 list, I think it’s Sudfeld over Cofield and Toler over Jefferson. Has Hood started to play well enough to make the squad too? If so, who is at risk of being on the outside looking in?

      HTTR too!

  2. Jlb12300 - Aug 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM

    The team in all is getting better. Defense looking better than last year. Couldn’t see too much of the offense with only cousins in for 8 snaps and the coaches calling vanilla plays. Cravens is definitely a baller. I think the weight that Murphy put on helped him. But saying that cousins did well because he went 5 for 5 is wrong. It looked like he was aiming to hit a small hole on every pass. Let’s hope that the play calling is not so passive next week.

    • redskins12thman - Aug 13, 2016 at 7:22 AM

      I’m okay with Cousins just taking what the defense gives him even if it just results in an 8 yard average gain per completion. What I don’t want is Cousins forcing long balls into tight coverage that result in interceptions.

  3. sidepull - Aug 13, 2016 at 9:50 AM

    I am just gonna say it. I am still pissed they cut Alf loose. I know its illogical, I know it made sense to do so, I just dont think it was a great idea based on the fact that the rookie was just gift wrapped a starting position. He hasnt done jack in the NFL really. I sincerely hope he does, but for now, in my mind, he has lot to prove. The last guy who got a gift wrapped position is gone. So much for competition. I think there may have been plans for Silas Redd but he smoked them away right? I think after week 1 we see Pierre Thomas back in the fold. I cannot believe they are seriously going with this bunch. Sorry for the rant. When Jones runs for 1,000 yds, I will be on board. For now he hasnt done squadoosh.

    • bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 10:58 AM

      If Jones can’t get 1000 yards rushing then there will be a new draft pick next year. Any back that is the bell cow has to get at least 1000 a year.

  4. Mr.moneylover - Aug 13, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    Stock Down – Kendrick Gholston no movement from the NT spot …our pass rusher got more pressure on the QB then the D-line
    Stock up – Preston Smith made plays in the short mount of time he played
    Stock up – Ziggy Hood made every O-line he went up against move backwards
    Stock Down – Spencer Long he can not move his guy backwards in the run game and by him struggling to do that he blocks Trent Williams from moving with the O-line and it collapse the middle and right side of the O-line for lost yards
    Stock up – Shawn lauvao looked like his old self against the falcons
    Stock up – martrell spaight the guy just flat out hustle everytime he on the field
    Stock up – deshaun Phillips the guy seems like he got some dog in him
    Stock Down – Quinton Dunbar idk what got into this kid but he need to straighten up unless he’s gonna get replaced he’s better then what he showed against the falcons
    Stock Down – Morgan Moses he get called for holding and he struggle while he was in the game he stalled a prefect kirk cousins drive that looked like it was gonna be a touchdown
    Stock Down – coaching staff or whoever sets up training camp and heres why …I said this sooooo many times its nothing like going up against another team when you practice on your own it can lead to a team taking a step back unless you had long success like the patriots to me it was so important to get a joint training camp so you can go full tilt all the time and get better…you can’t go full tilt against your own players cause you will end up injuring your own teammates

    • bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM

      Ked wasn’t good but he at least was running side to side and not sealing off the backside. Pretty sure he was going against Alex Mack too. If not, then it’s more of something to watch

      Ziggy did look good. There’s a guy fighting to make the team.

      Trent wasn’t playing so not sure what you’re saying there about Long but do agree that he must improve. Interesting to see him in there and not Lauvao. I don’t think Lauvao got in until the third quarter so he better look like “his old self.”

      On the first deep ball to Dunbar, Blackmon was suppose to help. Oops. The second one he may have lost the ball in the dome. Anyway, it bears watching. He needs to look better.

      Moses better not get complacent and I agree about your takes on Smith, Spaight, Philips, and the lack of a training camp opponent. That may be an issue finding a team willing to pack and move to hot Richmond for a week. That’s a lot to ask for teams and the Redskins are stuck training there.

    • Jlb12300 - Aug 13, 2016 at 2:59 PM

      They are locked into a contract with the training facility and no team wanted to come over here.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 13, 2016 at 5:43 PM

        Do you think if the Redskins ask earlier in the off-season they might be able to get a NFL team to come to Richmond? If not, when does Bon Secours (BS) contract expire or when can Redskins leave bs facility to do scrimmage at another NFL team location?

  5. Mr.moneylover - Aug 13, 2016 at 10:11 AM

    When Matt Ryan had all day to throw when he was in his own end zone that’s what the D-line really looking like lucky matt Ryan threw a bad ball to Julio Jones because breeland covering skills …when you seen Ricky jean and Ziggy Hoods line up next to each other you seen they guys moving back and the put pressure on the QB

  6. Mr.moneylover - Aug 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

    Stock up – Joe Barry – his blitzes packages are amazing if he call that during the season Defense will be really good..I don’t know if he called them but im thinking it was the lack of D-linemen getting to the QB something they gotta get better at

  7. bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    A couple of initial thoughts about the game that I failed to mention earlier…

    It is soooo nice to not have Aldrick Robinson, Nick Williams, and Tom Compton making pre-season impressions in Burgundy and Gold. Good for Kyle for giving his guys a shot.

    Unimpressed with the attack on kickoffs. Looks like we’ll be spotting teams on the 25. That kickoff was returned right between Cravens and Fuller. Spaight was on the field as well. So that may have been the special team the organization wants out there on Sundays. The return started four yards deep in the end zone so maybe everyone but Cravens was running 3/4 speed. I don’t know but that is exactly the kind of result that would get coaches to concede five yards regularly.

    • bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 12:35 PM

      Forgot to mention that about every year there are about the same amount of kick returns for touchdowns in the preseason as there are in all of the regular season, league wide. So it’s just something that bears watching.

  8. bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 1:02 PM

    According to Football Outsiders, the Redskins will play nine games against teams that have at least a 40% chance at making the playoffs. In order those teams:

    Arizona 69.3%
    Pittsburgh 66.9%
    Green Bay 64.8%
    Baltimore 50.7%
    Dallas 50.5%
    Carolina 47.7%
    Minnesota 41.4%
    Cincinnati 40.9%

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds

    • sidepull - Aug 13, 2016 at 1:32 PM

      It will be interesting. Play up to the level of the competition. Injuries are going to screw with those percentages probably.

      Right out of the gate they are going to catch the Steelers without RB Bell and WR Bryant. I am sure Brown will pick up the slack. But the percentages, like Dallas wout Romo ( which is not out of the realm of possibility), are going to be pretty dynamic based on suspensions and injuries. They must be really high on the Cowpukes. In spite of their suspensions on the defense, to think it doesnt really matter and that they are basically still a 50/50 shot to be a playoff team. They have the Cowpuke koolaid flowing. Zeke musta got them all worked up. Cowpukes suck. No sympathy ever. Hope we kill em.

      • bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 1:45 PM

        The love for the blue star appears to have no bounds. I had hoped that FO was immune to it. Alas, no. Although they also have the Ravens about the same coming off all their injuries. Still, a Chad Johnson “child please” and all its connotations to both FO and Dallas.

      • bangkokben - Aug 13, 2016 at 1:47 PM

        Oh, and yes these are dynamic. They change week to week as I kept posting them last year as the Redskins made their playoff push.

    • redskins12thman - Aug 13, 2016 at 7:16 PM

      Found it surprising that both Baltimore and Dallas show higher odds of making the playoffs than Carolina and Minnesota and Cincinnati. Do others feel the same way?

      • bangkokben - Aug 14, 2016 at 9:33 AM

        I do think so but I’d chalk it up to injuries in 2015 and that two game schedule difference. Baltimore will have an “easier” two games than Cincinnati. Minnesota has the first place schedule and has Green Bay in their division. Dallas is in the “weak” NFC East. I kind of get those. Carolina, would’ve though their percentages would be 5 to 10 points higher.

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