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Redskins practice report—Day 9

Aug 7, 2016, 1:03 PM EDT

Ryan Grant RVA 2016 USAT

RICHMOND—The Redskins get back to work today after a rare Saturday off day. Tandler will be reporting live from the field. In between watching the Olympics, the Nats, or whatever else you may be doing on this Sunday drop by here and update frequently.

–A mix of sun and clouds here at the Bon Secours training center. They’re about to get rolling, will have some reports soon.

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–All three of the QBs are looking sharp in the early going. Even though they are throwing to receivers against air hitting all of their targets in the hands is not always a given.

–In one-on-one coverage, DeSean Jackson tried to get away from Kendall Fuller on a short dodge route but Fuller stuck with him and knocked Kirk Cousins’ pass away.

–Ryan Grant got a couple of steps past Will Blackmon on an intermediate route and Cousins lofted the ball right into his hands. Again, Cousins very sharp so far (and there were defenders that time).

–I’ll say it again–if Matt  Jones isn’t successful this year it won’t be because he isn’t giving his opportunity this season his best shot. He is in shape, hustling, and running hard. You never know how a season will turn out but what we’ve seen so far here bodes well.

–Nice pass on the move by Colt McCoy to Maurice Harris. McCoy rolled to his right and lofted the ball to Harris, who made the catch along the sideline about 20 yards downfield.

–Mack Brown with a couple of nice runs, one up the middle and the other around right end. I’m not sure will make the 53 but there is plenty of opportunity on this team at his position.

–Nice two minute drill led by Cousins. Finished it off with a nice pass over the middle to Grant for about a 15-yard touchdown. I didn’t count but very unofficially it was six plays, 60 yards, about a minute off of the clock.

–The second team’s two-minute drive ended with a field goal from about 50 yards out.Dustin Hopkins drilled it right down the middle with plenty of distance to spare.

–Watching from the sideline, Will Blackmon wanted an intentional grounding flag when a Nate Sudfeld pass sailed well out of bounds. Unfortunately I don’t think that was intentional.

–Sudfeld is having a rough time. First Carlos Fields batted down his short pass in the flat and then Corey Crawford rejected his pass at the line. Mercifully, they blew the horn to end the session.

–One on one pass blocking. Lyndon Trail blew past Arie Kouandjio. They had them line up again and the same thing happened. To be sure, Kouandjio isn’t going to be asked to block edge rushers very often but you’d like to see more of a battle.

–The offensive players are uttering a lot of F-bombs after defenders are blowing past them. The drill does favor the defense as they kn0w it’s a pass and there is no double-team help.

–In the least shocking development of the day, Josh LeRibeus let fly an errant shotgun snap that Colt McCoy had to reach to get. He got it but it destroy the timing on the play and McCohy had to throw it out of bounds.

–Cousins rifle one to Harris one the sideline. Nice grab by the rookie.

–From bout the 10, Jackson got separation from Josh Norman in the corner of the end zone. Cousins threw a perfect pass but Jackson dropped it.

  1. redskins12thman - Aug 7, 2016 at 1:20 PM

    Thanks for covering Rich.

    With the couple of non contact serious injuries in the NFL yesterday, I’m fine if Crowder and other starters sit as long as they are ready for the Steelers. As long as they are physically in shape and having timing in plays down, I’m not sure what else they need.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM

      There’s barely enough time to implement the playbook and practice the situational roles as is. The playbook evolves every season. Trust me, the Patriots don’t play such disciplined/tight football because Bellichick rests his players in camp. It’s not just knowing the play call but also the audibles and what each player should do depending on what the defense does.

      The coach’s master playbook playbook is extremely dense and he continuously adds to it. The playbook the team uses each season comes from the master, but will change based on who the team faces and the personnel a team has (which changes every season). The coaches evaluate their players through OTAs and minicamp and starts to narrow down his master playbook into the smaller one they will use for the upcoming season. It’s not done until about June 15. Then the coaches have about 55 practices (including simple walk throughs) to implement the entire season’s playbook before week 1. So there’s PLENTY for these guys to learn.

      Obviously a lot is transferred from year to year. Which is why continuity is so important. But team’s have to evolve. You can’t just run the exact same plays every year because opponents would catch on. Then the way a particular play or audible is called could change. Plus, these guys only had limited time to practice the play the year before. Chances are they didn’t all master the audibles and option routs and could use more practice. And that’s not even including technique (blocking, rout running, tackling, picking up the blitz, reads, etc., etc.) A 10 year vet is one thing. But Crowder is only a sophomore. I’m certain he still has a lot to learn.

      Injuries worry me too. But teams with tons of talent (on paper) do worse than teams with less talent every single season because they’re less prepared. These guys need their practice reps.

      • redskins12thman - Aug 9, 2016 at 9:07 AM

        For each game, how many plays does the team pre-plan? (I presume they intend to execute plays based on down and yardage.)

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 9, 2016 at 2:46 PM

          I’m sure it changes slightly from team to team. But, according to Pat Kirwan, it’s about 60 plays. As you said, they’re categorized by down and distance. About 5 per each situation. And it’s all specific to the team they’re playing.

          But during camp the coach should instal about 40 plays that are the core of his playbook and game plan. So a lot of those plays will get rolled into each week. So they don’t actually have to relearn/practice 60 plays each week. It’s good to try and get at least one rep in for them, but there’s often not time. Game plans aren’t set until Wednesday. So they only have a couple days to go over each play, plus all the film study, training room, etc., etc.

          Then some of this truly depends on the system. In some systems, like the West Coast, one play call could have about 10 variations depending on the down and distance or what the defense does. So, truly, they try to keep it simple. As complicated as football can be, execution of basic concepts is really what wins. Talent and brilliant schemes are useless if they’re constantly out of position or making mistakes. But a basic game plan will look pretty good if it’s executed flawlessly by mediocre players. A team can’t fumble, go offsides, drop passes, throw interceptions, blow coverage, take sacks, and win. No matter the talent level. That’s why I love disciplined and humble players. But a reasonably simple game plan also has a lot to do with that.

  2. tim - Aug 7, 2016 at 1:48 PM

    Thanks Rich. Mike Jones will never be as successful as you No matter how hard he tries. ☺

  3. bangkokben - Aug 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM

    Good to know that MIKE Jones is giving his best effort this year. The Post should be happy to hear that as well. Didn’t know about his fitness. ;-)

    Glad to hear that about MATT, too.

  4. Isaiah - Aug 7, 2016 at 2:30 PM

    Mike Jones said back then you didn’t want me now I don’t fumble you all up on me

    • rtcwon - Aug 7, 2016 at 6:38 PM

      Who?

  5. redskins12thman - Aug 7, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    Are Sudfeld’s struggles typical for a rookie QB? How is 3rd string O-line performing for Sudfeld?

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM

      My two cents: Sudfield’s struggles are extremely typical for a rookie 6th round pick. If he had more to offer, he would have been drafted earlier.

      He was worth taking because he’s very tall (good for looking over the line and reading the defense), has a rocket arm, came from a pro style offense in college (and showed aptitude for running it), and is probably more athletic than some think. But he has a tremendous about if growing to do before he could even be a respectable backup. Chances are he never even starts a game in his NFL career.

      But if you want some blind optimism, Tom Brady was terrible when he first got to the Patriots. Former players and coaches said he was just god awful and Bellichick was always chewing him out. People also forget this, but Brady was not good the few times he came in for Bledsoe before that injury. But he grew, obviously. He worked his butt off and made something of himself. It’s extremely rare for a 6th round QB to become a starter, but it has happened. Sudfield has a long road but it’s not impossible.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 7, 2016 at 3:27 PM

      I replied to this earlier but I guess it didn’t post for some reason.

      To sum it up, yes. It’s very normal for a rookie 6th round QB to struggle. It’s extremely rare for them to make it.

      He was worth taking because of his height (good for looking over the line and reading the defense, he has a rocket arm, he came from a pro style offense in college (and showed an aptitude for running it), and he’s probably meow athletic than he gets credit for. But he has a long road ahead to even be a respectable backup. If he had more to offer he would have been drafted earlier. Especially in this QB starved league where mediocre prospects are drafted 3 rounds before they should be and average FAs are paid fortunes for their services.

      • mtskins - Aug 7, 2016 at 6:09 PM

        “Meow, I’m going to have to give you a ticket on this one. No buts meow. Its the law.”

        Sorry. I know it was a typo but couldn’t help myself

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 9, 2016 at 2:48 PM

          Ha. I didn’t even see that until you pointed it out….. Or was it subconsciously intentional? Hmmmm.

  6. Trey Gregory - Aug 7, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    It seems like I keep hearing good things about Grant and Ross. But, then again, it seems like Grant shines every camp. I’ve been one of Ross’ biggest doubters but I sure hope he proves me wrong. With Desean’s injury history and Doctson being sidelined it would be fantastic for Grant and Ross to take a step forward.

    It’s also good to hear that about Jones. The most I can ask if a guy is to take his job serious and try his hardest in every way possible. How you take care of your body says a lot about you (just look at how disappointing the Edible Lacy has been for Greenbay with his extra girth). And Jones is seemingly obsessed with not fumbling. Maybe I should be a bit more optimistic about our run game.

  7. Mr.moneylover - Aug 7, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    I don’t think rashad Ross is a lock if somebody else STEPUP and looks better then him then he’s gone…Ryan grant need to show more during the year instead of training camp jay gruden keep giving him a chance I think this his last shot to prove his self same thing with Trent Murphy…. Unlike other ppl I got Keith Marshall making the team unless he get serious injured… If they keep 4 then Robert Kelly makes it as well…pre-season will show who gonna be matt Jones back up…scot m. And jay gruden feel like they know who gonna be matt Jones backup but they want the other RBs to keep competing and pre-season haven’t started yet…they want Keith Marshall to be matt Jones backup… At first it was mack brown then Robert Kelly now they feel like Keith Marshall is in the lead to be matt Jones backup so far…Robert Kelly was in the lead but he suffered a injury and i was told hes not catching to many eyes like he was before he got injured

    • rtcwon - Aug 7, 2016 at 6:45 PM

      How do you know what Scot & Jay feel? And who told you Kelly is no good anymore? Just curious as they haven’t even played the first game yet. Imo, trying to read tea leaves from what they let you see in public practices is foolish.

  8. mtskins - Aug 7, 2016 at 5:51 PM

    The knock on Sudfeld coming out was his throwing motion and his lack of accuracy/tendency to sail the ball. Not surprising that he is struggling. But he also was supposed to have size and an rocket arm and those are things that can’t be developed, corrected, or taught. For a 6th round pick I would think things are going as expected and unless he shows up in preseason games think he can be safely stashed on the practice squad.

    Not sure why LeRibeus keeps getting chances unless Reiter just can’t hack it. Great to hear Hopkins is picking up right where he left off ant that Fuller is making plays against first team competition already.

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 7, 2016 at 6:57 PM

      Yeah I think you nailed it with Sudfeld. It’s going to be a process with him. And even then, the chances are slim. But he has all the physical tools. It’s all about learning at this point.

      I think Leribus getting reps is a clear indication of Reiter’s progress. I would think eventually people would learn to quit having such high expectations of late round guys. But every year, there’s more hype around some long shot. Kouandjo, Keith Marshal, Daniels, Sudfeld, and Reiter are all guys unlikely to ever really help this team. Maybe Reiter could someday become our backup center, but I don’t know. Our best hope is probably that Long can do it and Lavao can hold down LG until either Kouandjo surprises us or someone new comes in.

      • mtskins - Aug 7, 2016 at 7:57 PM

        Usually not the guy pulling for the seventh round long shot but I’ve definitely been in Reiter’s corner after he had a year to absorb things and bulk up on the PS last year. Like you say the lack of reps is telling. Hoping after the first preseason game they start feeding him more otherwise it looks like it might be right back there for him.

  9. Mr.moneylover - Aug 7, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    The question I have is…is our D-line in shape to handle a no huddle offense…once green bay used it against us our D-line was DONE…and I hear jay gruden yelled about it when kirk cousins raned a no huddle offense in practice …jay gruden yelled is our D-line in shape yeah keep rotating… That’s not good if this is true…

  10. Mr.moneylover - Aug 7, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    Kendall fuller is no joke once he get it he makes plays …he did it in college before he got injured… not surprise he’s opening up head coach jay gruden eyes…stopping djax one on one is hard

  11. rtcwon - Aug 7, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Back up guards & center is a serious problem. Got to find something better than Long & LeRibeus.

    How can anyone not like Kory & Lauvao when it is pure garbage behind them?

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to try one or both of the solid back up tackles at gaurd than Arie at tackle?

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