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Need to Know: Five questions for Redskins coach Jay Gruden

Jul 27, 2016, 3:58 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Wednesday, July 27, one day before the Washington Redskins start training camp in Richmond.


Today’s schedule: Jay Gruden news conference approx. 3 p.m. from the Bon Secours training center in Richmond

—The Redskins last played a game 199 days ago. It will be 47 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Preseason opener @ Falcons 15; Final roster cut 38; Cowboys @ Redskins 53


Two quick notes: First, welcome J.P. Finlay as my new tag team partner in Redskins coverage at If you’re a hockey fan continue following Tarik’s work at CSN as he become the Caps Insider. Me? I’m staying put.

Well, I’m staying put figuratively, anyway. Tomorrow I’m packing up and heading down I-95 to Richmond for training camp. It starts the non-stop grind of the NFL and I apologize in advance if I get behind in answering your questions in the comments section here. I almost always have Twitter open and in front of me so hit me up @Rich_TandlerCSN if you don’t hear back from me.

Five questions for Jay Gruden

The Redskins head coach will get things kicked off today around 3 p.m. with a press conference. Here are some questions that we are likely to see asked. Do you have any suggestion? Hit up the comments!

Is the team going to bring in a free agent to replace Junior Galette?—They have two pretty good pass rushers in Preston Smith and Ryan Kerrigan so there doesn’t seem to be any need to push the panic button. But they do lack depth now and perhaps they might have someone like Dwight Freeney on their radar. A trade is another possibility but no team is anxious to give up pass rushing talent.

Is moving Trent Murphy back to linebacker a consideration?—The problem with reversing the move that Murphy made over the offseason is that he pushed his weight up to around 290 pounds and probably doesn’t have the mobility needed to play on two feet. But desperate times call for desperate measures and we’ll see if it’s being considered.

Are there plans to bring in another running back to back up Matt Jones?—It has seemed like the only person unconcerned about the Redskins’ running back depth chart is Gruden. For a team that emphasizes depth and competition the lack of either behind Jones seems puzzling. Perhaps Gruden can shed some light on it.

Are there any concerns that Kirk Cousins will press too hard with a potential big contract in his future?—Some NFL players need to be motivated; others need to be calmed down. Cousins, with a $20 million contract this year but nothing guaranteed after that, could push too hard to try to make plays that would justify both his current paydays and to set up a big deal in 2017. We will see if Gruden is at all concerned about this.

Past Redskins teams have tended to rest on their laurels after winning the division. Do you sense that is something you will have to deal with this year?—Not only have the Redskins failed to make the playoffs in consecutive seasons since 1991-1992 but they have crashed spectacularly after two of their last three postseason appearances. They went 5-11 after making the playoffs in 2005 and crashed to 3-13 after their 2012 division title. Does Gruden feel any particular need to guard against the team becoming complacent?


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  1. colorofmyskinz - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:57 AM

    Great questions!! These are the critical ones we have been bouncing around.

    – Possible to move Riley over to OLB? We have plenty of pass catchers to entice a trade for OLB I am sure.
    – Are they still planning to look at Cravens at the primary position of Safety with the stent at ILB just for development?
    – status report on injured players: Doctson, Lauvao, Kory, others

    Thanks Rich!

    • redskins12thman - Jul 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM

      What a point you made Rich: Not only have the Redskins failed to make the playoffs in consecutive seasons since 1991-1992 but they have crashed spectacularly after two of their last three postseason appearances (5-11 and 3-13). Should Redskins fans expect two winning seasons in a row?

      I like the questions above about Su’a Cravens as well as injuries: Lauvao, Thompson, Marshall, Riley, Reed, Doctson, Diggs, and Showers are all ready to go?

      Is there anyone who did not participate or pass conditioning tests besides Carrier?

      Besides LG and RDE, what starting positions are most up for grabs?

      • redskins12thman - Jul 27, 2016 at 8:48 AM

        Why has team signed 2 WRs (Dez Stewart and Kendal Thompson) since deep position?

        What will be the primary themes & points of emphasis for training camp? Will defense causing turnovers be one of them?

      • John - Jul 28, 2016 at 6:31 PM

        Craig Hoffman per one of the coaches re: Marshall. If you have that size and speed and end up a 7th round pick or undrafted, you don’t have any real skills (don’t have the eyes, don’t have any moves, can’t make folks miss, etc.).

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 7:55 PM

          See, that’s what I’ve been trying to say! Guys like him are great 7th round picks. They’re a great Hail Mary. Because most 7th round picks don’t work out. So you might as well go for the guy that has some sort of gift that gives him upside, with the realization it’s probably not going to happen. Rico Gathers is one of the best examples of a late round project with crazy potential that I can think of. Marshall though, he’s a late, late 7th round guy. It was about the best pick McCloughan could make with what was left, but my expectations are 0 for him.

    • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 1:04 PM

      The value of a wide receiver or TE to edge rusher isn’t equal though. We would have to give up a very good receiver (and Doctson is the only tradeable once since Garcon and DJax are free agents next year) and we would still probably get a dud in return. Or someone with a massive cap hit. We already have the kind of young players we could trade for in Bates and Jefferson. I’m sure we will bring someone in. But via free agency, not via trade.

      • bangkokben - Jul 31, 2016 at 9:01 AM

        I agree that the likelihood of a trade resulting in a usable edge rusher being nonexistent, however if the team were to make the trade, Garcon and Jackson are the perfect candidates because of being in the final years of their contracts. Trades are like cuts and any guaranteed money becomes due to the cap at the time. It would cost the team $7.6 million in cap space to trade or cut Doctson. On the other hand, the team would save $8M with Garcon and $6.7M with Jackson. Also, both of these receivers are proven and can significantly compliment/upgrade another team’s receiving core. The team that theoretically receives either receiver would then be able to extend the receiver to a new contract. Contrary to what many Redskins fans think, both still have value despite their ages and a team devoid at the position might jump at the chance.

        Now there are reasons it won’t happen. A team would have to have a surplus of edge rushers and one of which in a similar contract situation AND that team would have to have a need at receiver. Then the Redskins would have to consider do they weaken another area of strength just to crawl back to “even” in the pass rushing department. It would be a case of “would you rather”…get weaker in pass catchers or edge rushers? And the Redskins moving heaven and earth to answer the question.

        Back to trading Garcon or Jackson, this happens ONLY IF the Redskins’ season goes seriously pear shaped in the first half of the season — like 1-7 — as the trade deadline will be around November 1.

    • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 4:11 PM

      I guess my question is with Cravens. Will Gallettes injury have any affect on his development? I know we were starting him at ILB anyway but is there anymore incentive, now that Galette is out, to push back his debut at S? I know his snaps at S wouldve been limited anyway but maybe they’ll be more emphasis on suring up the front 7. I’ve been seeing they like Cravens instinct on blitzes or playing up by the line maybe they counter the injury by playing to his strengths? Just wondering.

      • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:33 PM

        I like him at ILB more anyway. Or as a “moneybacker.” I don’t really know that he’s fast enough to play safety. He’s small for an ILB but we’re seeing that more and more. The league seems headed toward smaller middle linebackers. I hope they do leave him there. Even if it’s just in nickel (aka most of the time).

        I’ve seen people asking about moving him to OLB. That’s would concern me. But, then again, I don’t really know what to think of Cousins. That just doesn’t seem like a good fit to me.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 6:24 PM

          No he’s definitely undersized at OLB, I wouldn’t put him there. His instinct can help him where his size won’t, like being able to diagnose a play and beating the linemen to the gap instead of having to bully through it. Cravens wasn’t a projected starter and I don’t see this as a chance for him to shoot up the depth chart but I do think maybe this opens the playbook up and allows him to see more reps. I too like him as our watever currency backer because of his cover ablity but maybe he sees the field more because of his aggression on downhill plays.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:08 PM

          Yeah I’m with you on all of that. It’s funny to think of an undersized linebacker as someone who shores up the from 7, but that’s his potential. If they use him exactly how you just said.

          We just have to wait and see how he does before we really know. I’ve never been more unsure about a player’s future.

    • John - Jul 28, 2016 at 3:57 PM

      Yeah, we could trade Grant and Ross to KC and get back Justin Houston and Tamba Hali. LOL

      • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 5:59 PM

        Ha. Perfect. But then we’d be without Ross! He’s fast guys. Super duper fast! He’s going to be the next Desean.

        But we should trade Keith Marshall for Jeremy Hill and Nate Sudfield for Russell Wilson. I don’t know why McCloughan doesn’t think of these things.

  2. garg8050 - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:09 AM

    All good questions.

    As for Cousins, it could play out two different ways. He could feel the pressure to make plays and free the ball. Or he could become more cautious, and not force things, especially late in games when it might be indicated, just to avoid interceptions. Neither is a good scenario. Hopefully he’s able to maintain a balance between aggressive enough, but not careless. Something to watch all season…

    • garg8050 - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:11 AM

      *force the ball…

  3. smotion55 - Jul 27, 2016 at 9:02 AM

    Resting on their laurel’s is quite funny. Between Gruden and GM best man plays attitude and the total revamp of team in 2nd year who can rest. maybe T. Williams and Kerrigan .those guys are not wired that way. Way to many looking for work . As bad as this division was last year I sure hope they step it up a couple of notches.
    This team and Cousins also should set goals, like beating a couple of teams with winning records, getting back to playoffs 2 years in a row , do better then last year bare minimum. With the weapons he has and all the starter’s reps in camp he should do well. He played a lot of big time games at Mich. St so we will see. If he puts to much pressure on himself then this whole team will take a step back. This read and react offense is a perfect fit for him.
    The only switch Murphy is going to have if this move to line doesn’t work out is out the door. There are a lot of hard workers that don’t make it in this league and I am not so sure he is a fit at either position against the quality of player in this league. Corey Crawford was on practice squad last year he might beat Murphy out for last spot on D-Line
    Now that Galette is gone, good question about depth and replacement , as is running back considerations now. 2 or 3 long shots on the roster right now maybe 1 will shine They could pick up a RB after 1st week on the cheep so who knows.
    The left guard and Center of the o-line would be my # 1 question, if that really works itself out then most of the rest of this will also . If they can run at will against somebody then they are in the driver’s seat . I still think they will make a couple of moves after final cuts maybe 1 before who knows this GM is very much in tune with what is out there. Hopefully Hardy is not 1 of them on his list, regardless of talent = not moving forward with him on the team in my opinion.

    • redskins12thman - Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 AM

      I agree that the Redskins will monitor as cuts get down to 75 and 53 and may make moves at those points.

      I didn’t know Crawford was making that much progress so that is encouraging.

      • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 1:00 PM

        Crawford isn’t making THAT much progress. Not to unseat Murphy. That’s just how delusional fans are about the potential of the guys deep on the depth chart and about how bad Murphy is. He’s really not a bad player at all. He’s not losing his job, on a rookie contract, to someone from the practice squad. Get over it guys.

        • smotion55 - Jul 27, 2016 at 1:07 PM

          How do you know about Crawford , or any of the others , Inside info please give us more insight at Center and Runing Back AND Outside LB . I AM ALL EARS

        • John - Jul 28, 2016 at 4:02 PM

          Yeah, 2nd that regarding all the excitement over a bunch of guys who have never accomplished anything. I still don’t see Murphy making much happen. Murphy will be impactful when monkeys fly out of my butt.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 5:42 PM

          It’s slightly hypocritical of me to argue it’s ridiculous to have high expectations of late-round picks and undrafted players who haven’t done anything, and then argue you should buy into Murphy. I agree he needs to show more.

          But I’m also arguing that he’s been better than a lot of people give him credit for. He needs to be better, but he really hasn’t been THAT bad. And I think he can be better at his new position. That’s all. But I understand anyone who doesn’t want to bug into that. I’m usually not the optimist for these kinds of things.

      • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:50 PM

        If your argument is I don’t know what I’m talking about because I don’t have inside information, then you’re arguing against yourself too. How do you know how Murphy is progressing? How do you know Crawford isn’t absolutely horrendous?

        Other than what I’ve read (and I do read just about every article about this team). Call it common sense. Do I think that a guy who went undrafted in 2015, and then spent the entire season on the practice squad, is going to unseat a 2014 second round pick who was a starter? No. No I do not. And, while Murphy hasn’t lived up to his draft status, he hasn’t been as bad as fans think either. He’s a decent player and I believe he’s been used improperly and the position change will be good for him. If you need more info on why, I gave a lengthy explanation a day or two ago in another one of Rich’s article. I backed it up with a detailed explanation. Which goes back to my comment about how fans are delusional with how bad Murphy actually is and with how all of our late round draft picks and UFAs are going to be studs. I haven’t heard anything from the “insiders” to make me think Crawford will even make the final 53 this year. That’s what I’m basing it off.

        If you have specific questions about center, RB, and OLB I would be more than happy to share my opinion.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:21 PM

          Gruden: coaches want to keep Trent Murphy as an interior defensive lineman for now. Looking at Lynden Trail and Willie Jefferson, other OLBs

          — Mike Jones (@MikeJonesWaPo) July 27, 2016

          So that ends that. Didn’t think it was incredibly realistic to ask him to shed a 5 year old from his measurements. Think we dealt with an injury bug last year? Sounds like a pretty good way to get hurt bulking up and dropping significant amount of weight in the same offseason. I’m still not sold on Murphy, he’s one of the guys that could be looking over his shoulder next year. Especially if we keep him at DL since that’s already considered a weakness and will be addressed in the next draft. I didn’t watch him in college but I’ve seen plenty of people say he was a monster before he played standing up so idk we’ll see.

          He’s definitely underwhelmed in his time here but, not enough of a sample size =) for me to call him a bum yet. It’s not like going from WR to TE where you just need to learn how to block and new route combinations (well every rookie rec has to learn that so). Going from playing with your hand in the dirt, knowing the timing of your moves and using your leverage because you’re working in a phone booth, creating pressure/ forcing runs to your help is a complete change in going to OLB. Which yes you are responsible for bringing pressure, you also can’t overrun plays and let screens get pass you, you’re not working in the scrum you’re in open space. Might have to cover TE’s or smaller RBs so your tackling angles need to be precise (see Rambo vs CJ2K), pursuit against faster players. I give Murphy a lot more slack because that’s like asking Trent to play the right side because Kirk woke up left handed. I know they get paid a lot of money and we want results now but that’s a lot to take on. He might not even be all that good this year because he’s playing in a new body so it could be next year when he breaks out. If we don’t draft someone and they beat him out.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 3:14 AM

          I agree that it was unrealistic to expect Murphy to drop that weight. And an injury waiting to happen. I’m also glad they’re leaving him at DE because I think that’s a better fit for him in a 3-4.

          He was a monster in college but he actually did play OLB and not DE at Stanford. They run a 3-4 too. So he entered the league playing the same position. But, that doesn’t mean it was his correct pro position. I’m sure you know that college and pro are almost like two different games. Especially because of the speed. And I don’t believe Murphy has the football speed to go around the edge in the NFL. But he was also dropped into coverage 80% of his snaps in Washington. He wasn’t rushing the passer at least 80% of the time. That’s not where his strengths are. And nobody is going to get 10 sacks if they’re always in coverage. But he was strong against the run, played disciplined, knew his assignments, and showed some ability to handle tackles and penetrate.

          Just yesterday or the day before I wrote a very long post stating the multiple reasons I’m optimistic about Murphy at DE. So I’ll spare you guys unless someone really wants to have that conversation again. But I do think it’s a better fit for him. To keep it short, he has all the tools. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be a good player except he wasn’t being used correctly. There is a good chance it takes him a season to really learn the new job. But I don’t see them letting him go until his rookie contract is up.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 3:15 AM

          Oops. I didn’t realize I was posting in the same spot and just repeated myself 100 times. My bad guys.

  4. WARREN - Jul 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM

    Please pick up Greg hardy ,,good choice ,good player,,next pick up ray rice everybody deserve another chance he be a nice fit for the redskins

    • Rich Tandler - Jul 27, 2016 at 10:10 AM

      What do you think, folks? Is Warren serious?

      • redskins12thman - Jul 27, 2016 at 10:59 AM

        I think Warren’s being facetious.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:19 PM

        He gave the game away with the Ray Rice comment.

        When you Poe, you gotta Poe all the way.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:35 PM

          He could have rallied for us to sign Johnny Manziel and trade for Josh Gordon and Randy Gregory. The all-pro red flag team.

    • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM

      Ha. I’ve seen people beating up Galette on PFT over the belt incident. No you shouldn’t hit a woman but if she’s accompanied by a fairly large group of guys and all you have to defend yourself with against the CROWD is a belt… IN THE WORDS OF ROBERT JEBEDIAH FREEMAN!.. People just need to keep their hands to their self… That said.. Greg Hardy… nah. This wasn’t an “I’m enjoying my day at the beach by myself and bum rushed by a mob of angry people forcing me to make a split decision not to use my brute strength and incur a vicious image and lawsuits but rather whip em like their mom should have” situation. Not a “throw you on the bed full of assault rifles and violently hold you against your will” situations. Two different monsters. I’m sure no one on here is lobbying for Hardy but this was just in case someone wanted to be corny and leave a “well if scot’s so big on character why’d he sign Galette” comments.

      • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM

        Yeah. The thing with Galette and the belt was blown WAY out of perportion.

        But apparently he was a huge pain in the ass for the Saints. Corrosive to the locker room. That worried me when we signed him. But all signs pointed to him trying to turn that around. We didn’t really get to find out, but it appeard so.

        But you’re correct. Him and Hardy aren’t even comparable. We’re not going to find a guy to replace Galette’s potential production. Let’s just accept that and move on. Hardy is not the answer.

        • redskins12thman - Jul 27, 2016 at 6:40 PM

          Galette seems to be really liked by the Redskins’ locker room and his attitude as a football player and as a person is incredibly positive. I am really happy Galette is part of the team and I wish him the best as he recovers. If Galette can recover and fully mend both achilles, he still has four more good years left in him and I hope they are all as a Redskin!

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 6:58 PM

          I agree, and I would love that. But I doubt he’ll be back. I just have a feeling his career is close to done. Someone will probably sign him to a low, low risk contract next year. But this is very tough to recover from.

          I started following Junior in Twitter after his first injury. He seems like a good guy, and a fun guy. He takes time to repsond to a lot of fans. A lot more than most players I’ve seen. That’s pretty cool in my book.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:31 PM

          Yeah I also saw a few comments on PFT like “Skins paid all that money…” ummm no we didn’t. I like that Scot isn’t throwing money at our problems like previous GM’s did. Preston gonna eat this year. This is like the Curse of The Bob. The season we bench Griffin, Galette has a major injury. We release the Bob and Galette injures himself again. I’m sure they are somehow related buuuuuut… we’re still beating the Rams in the “who has won at life since the 2012 draft?” game

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 2:59 AM

          That’s actually pretty funny. I never made the connection about releasing RG3 and Junior tearing his achillies.

          And it’s amazing how little the Rams did with those picks. They even got some good players. Ironically, they used their own pick on Aaron ado land and blew the second overall pick we have them. Kahil Mack was right there…. It makes me sick to think about the players we could have drafted if not for that deal. And we still could have drafted Cousins, Wilson, Carr, Bortals, Bridgewater…. And probably someone else I’m forgetting.

          The Browns also had a ton of first round picks since 2012 and they’ve never looked worse. To me, it’s proof it’s not all about the number of picks. I don’t mean to be captain obvious, but the person picking still has to know what he’s doing. And even then, good prospects bust all the time.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 28, 2016 at 3:17 PM

          Money Manziel!

  5. Rich Tandler - Jul 27, 2016 at 10:12 AM

    They are not going to change centers. Kory Lichtensteiger will be the starter.

  6. wncskinsfan - Jul 27, 2016 at 12:51 PM

    great questions. looking forward to your camp coverage. have fun!

  7. troylok - Jul 27, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    I like the questions. I’d like to add:

    -What things do they plan to work on with Sudfeld? I heard he was more of pusher with the ball and doesn’t really get the distance that a guy his size would get. I see they need to shorten his wind-up for passes.
    -With the above statement, do you think playing in a spread offense for Sudfeld will help him in playing at the next level or are there things he will need to un-learn?
    -Will the defense put more emphasis on adjusting to hurry-up offenses? In the playoffs, Green Bay killed them with it.
    -Is going up against two rookie head coaches in our division a good thing or bad thing, and why?
    -What team on our current schedule scares you the most?
    -What UDFA impresses you the most?

  8. Trey Gregory - Jul 27, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    Rich: I’m honestly more interested in asking you questions since I know it’s Gruden’s job to answer I. Coach speak.

    Obviously we all want to know how Bates and Jefferson look as camp goes. Especially vs. the run, their technique, and how disciplined they are. And do they seem to understand their assignments.

    Is Matt Jones squaring his shoulders at the line, running lower, and holding the ball high and tight?

    I specifically would like to hear how Paea, Murphy, RJF, and Ioannisis look. But most of all Murphy. Does he seem to understand the position change?

    Any revelations in where Cravens will play and if he seems to understand the defense.

    And anything with Lavau. Will he be back to full health by the time the season comes around. And will he have enough time to knock off the rust in camp.

    Thanks Rich. Have fun.

  9. baugh33 - Jul 27, 2016 at 3:34 PM

    I think the question we should all be asking is, how many more Kendalls can the Redskins sign this year? Kendall Fuller, Kendall Reyes, and now Kendal Thompson. I hope Pete Kendall and Jason Kendall are on the team’s radar.

  10. lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 4:03 PM

    So.. turns out Kirk is a professional, like I suspected, after all! Guess we’ll have to tuck those “he’s going to cry in the car” theories to rest. Does this guy sound like a diva wide receiver? Maybe like an 8 year vet that’s shown his worth and is insulted by being tagged? Hmmm he kinds sounds like a guy that understands his hot streak on such short notice put his team in bit of pickle. Sounds like he understands what the team want to see from him and isn’t at all mixing his personal emotions with the nature of business. So while his 16 starts this season + the 6 where he got himself benched + the 1 where he played the eagles while RGIII is out (and a few more apperances) maybe be enough to get FANS to fork over the check Kirk understands the check writers need to see more performance out of this particular fund before they invest.

    • bangkokben - Jul 31, 2016 at 9:20 AM

      Dude, you’re misrepresenting! Everyone knows there is no problem this year. To think that tagging him NEXT YEAR is a good idea AND that Kirk will have the same attitude then as he does now was the debate and if you think that then you’re beyond naive.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Aug 1, 2016 at 3:49 PM

        DUDE if he doesn’t earn a contract then he’s misrepresenting HIMSELF and could cost us MILLIONS! The point is IF YOU READ He understands that he needs to play WELL not inconsistently to EARN the type of contract he’s already asking for now, NEXT YEAR! The naive thing would be to believe that if he comes out and wins 7-8 games and looks MEH in them that we should “PAY HEEM BECAUSE HE’S THE BEST WE’RE GOING TO GET” which is the “logic” I was seeking to address here. G’Day sir.

  11. Skulb - Jul 27, 2016 at 7:08 PM

    No surprise about Murphy I think. Moving him to the line was really an indictment of him as a pass rusher to begin with, so why would they move him back? It makes more sense to look down the depth chart for some young, hungry guy you think you can use behind Smith and Kerrigan. Maybe Houston Bates would like a job here.

    As for Greg Hardy I seriously think people deserve second chances. He’s been immature and has made some knucklehead decisions yes, but this should not make him unemployable for all time. if we dug into the past of anyone we would probably find something that wouldn’t look very good if exposed and discussed in the media in isolation. | know I have done things I’m very glad are not common knowledge on the internet. If he wants to turn a corner and grow up, and if the Redskins think they can control him and help him through such a process, then I see no reason why he couldn’t be signed. Personally I would be much more concerned with his pitiful production last season when he was playing than I would be with his behavior. Based on that he’s simply not good enough to be signed by the Redskins, so why would they sign him? If he is good enough though I say go for it. There are apparently grownups running the Redskins, as opposed to the deranged old fruitcake and his puppet coach running things in Dallas. Besides, these are football players, not choir boys. As long as they are not actively pursuing their criminal careers while employed by the Redskins I’m fine with it.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jul 27, 2016 at 8:38 PM

      He’s been immature and has made some knucklehead decisions yes, but this should not make him unemployable for all time.

      Thing is, Skulb, he did all that and THEN the Cowboys signed him.

      And he Greg Hardied out again.

      We might as well bring in Manziel for QB.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Jul 27, 2016 at 9:49 PM

        Just say no buddy

      • Skulb - Jul 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM

        Just to nitpick, he allegedly did that, which is kind of important in a society of, you know, laws. If he actually is innocent how exactly was he supposed to defend himself against the vilification mob on the internet? Should he be contrite and apologize for something he did not do and/or was not a crime?
        And according to the legal system he is innocent. Just not according to the NFL and football fans, who do not actually have legal power. This is why I am being a contrarian here. Legal rights exists for everyone, men women, black and white. If they can simply be abolished if the victim happens to be a woman the whole thing is a joke.

        And just for perspective, in the past it was illegal to publish names or pictures of people accused of crimes. Not until sentenced in a court of law were papers permitted to do this. Yet Hardy was tried and found guilty by hordes of incompetent people, based exclusively on the statement of his ex girlfriend. This is not how the legal system is supposed to work in civilized countries. What if she lied? What if she exaggerated? What if she set him up to get revenge or to make off with his money? What if she attacked him first or was trespassing, which is the actual reason he was not convicted in court?

        So knucklehead and troublemaker yes. But this business with his ex GF is very fishy. At the very least it is not as black and white as people seem to think. Like I said, his feeble production last year, skipping training and antagonizing teammates are the real reasons you don’t consider him in my view. I don’t want him either, just not for the same reasons as the judge, jury and executioner lynch mob society around me.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 28, 2016 at 2:53 AM

          He actually was found guilty.

          North Carolina has a different legal system than any other state I’ve heard of. Without getting very technical, a judge can decide a verdict. And a judge found him guilty.

          Hardy requested a jury trial. He was granted it, as is his constitutional right, but the girl was paid off before the trial ever happened. As in, he was never found not guilty. I understand people are innocent until proven guilty. But a trial actually did happen and he was found guilty. Then he made sure the next trial never happened and the charges were dropped. That’s not quite the same thing as the public acting as judge, jury, and executioner.

          And I’m all about second chances too. But people need to deserve it. He showed zero remorse for anything. He got that second chance last year anyway. He paid the Cowboys back with his comments about “guns blazing” and “Tom Brady’s Wife.” He knew what he was doing, and if he didn’t, he’s a moron and we don’t need that. The Cowboys also want nothing to do with him because he was consistently late to meetings and belligerent with coaches. It’s not only about the domestic violence charges (two), and gun charges. He’s just not the kind of guy you want around your organization.

          The commissioner of the CFL just sent out a memo to all teams saying not to sign Greg Hardy. He’s a 15 sack edge rusher and he’s unemployed. Think about that. There’s more to this than being persecuted by the public.

        • Skulb - Jul 28, 2016 at 11:47 PM

          Yes I know, but personally I don’t find that to be a proper court or a proper trial. Ergo the guilty verdict isn’t legitimate either, when it comes from a banana republic show trial like that. He has a right to a jury trial and full legal treatment. In my view this judge is the one who belongs in jail for infringing on basic constitutional and human rights.

          I guess that’s a different issue though. But when the real legal system got hold of the case he was acquitted in short order, and settled simply to get the case out of his life. Too bad it doesn’t work that way for NFL players of course. Make one mistake and you’re evil forever apparently. And why should there be remorse when he’s innocent? What sort of a society is this, where everyone pursues people demanding apologies for non-crimes? I would agree that he should get right regarding all sorts of other things, like missing training, slapping clipboards etc. But that is between him and any future employer. It certainly is not a legal issue and he is, officially, not a criminal. All I ask is that people stop treating him as one. Archives

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