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CSN: Did the Redskins fire the first shot in the 2017 Cousins negotiations?

Jul 18, 2016, 11:30 AM EDT


A report this morning indicated that the Redskins are willing to look at alternatives to Kirk Cousins at quarterback if his contract demands get too high. Is this a serious threat or just posturing for negotiations that will start next January. Tandler takes a look over on


  1. abanig - Jul 18, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    I think they have and even some of the things this offseason McCloughan has said or the way he said them lead me to believe that they’d rather not pay Cousins long term because they believe the system is what made Kirk great and not the other way around.

    I would not sleep on Nate Sudfeld being developed into our next Cousins within a year or two. Sudfeld is 6’6, 234 and I have watched him for a few years at Indiana, he has the size of Ben Roethlisberger, not saying he’ll be Big Ben but the kid has tons of potential and size to go with it.

    • ET - Jul 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM

      I do think there’s some belief among the Ashburn braintrust that many QBs could be slotted into this system with decent results.

      But that doesn’t mean quarterbacks X, Y and Z are equally acceptable options. System QBs or not, Cousins and McCoy are both prep fiends—I have little doubt that both players know the playbook backward and forward. But that doesn’t make McCoy more than a good backup. On the flip side, Sudfield clearly has good physical skills. We’ll see if he can master the mental side as well. It has to be recognized that Cousins is doing pretty well in both aspects. System guy or not, there aren’t many players that can accomplish that much in the NFL. I feel like Cousins will be paid accordingly by this organization.

  2. redskins12thman - Jul 18, 2016 at 12:02 PM

    The “noise” begins even before the ink is dry on reports that Cousins was not signed to a long-term deal before Friday’s 4pm deadline.

    It is crazy to look beyond Cousins. The Redskins will be in a much better position having Cousins at the very least competing for the starting QB position the next three seasons. If the Redskins did not want Cousins at some juncture, I believe there would be at least 5 to 10 teams very willing to trade for Cousins.

    The Redskins need to continually improve the depth at each position, including QB, and McCloughan continues to do just that, but improving depth and having a bona fide above average starting NFL QB are two entirely different situations. As far as having a back-up we believe in, that’s why McCoy was signed.

    I just hope that such noise does not creep into Redskins Park and distract the team.

  3. wncskinsfan - Jul 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM

    A bunch of conjecture on behalf of Mike Florio. Hot garbage. No facts, I don’t believe that he or anybody else outside of the two respective camps involved know these facts. Pretty much not much more than an op-ed not worth paying attention to, it smacks of pot stirring, or click bait, over thinking or some other useless thing.

  4. crazyallives - Jul 18, 2016 at 3:21 PM

    The Redskins are just reminding everyone that Cousins doesn’t have all the leverage in this situation. Over the last few weeks, talk has been that they’d either have to over pay him now, or over pay him even more next year. Scot is just letting everyone know that those are not his only two options. If Kirk wants to remain the Skins QB, he’ll need to be realistic about the money he’s demanding.

    • redskins12thman - Jul 18, 2016 at 3:52 PM

      As much as Kirk may like playing for Gruden, I don’t think he will settle for anything less than market value because he does not have to. It’s clear that Cousins will get an opportunity to play for some team for a minimum of $60 million with at least half of that guaranteed — that’s the low end; added to this past year, that’s $50 million in guaranteed earnings. It could very well be significantly more than that amount.

      Why does Cousins have this leverage? because Cousins will either be franchised or he will negotiate with five to ten suitors next off-season…

      • bangkokben - Jul 18, 2016 at 6:04 PM

        Denver and the Jets look like pretty good destinations. Who knows if they’ll be looking for a QB. If all things are equal — including undermarket pay, wouldn’t Denver seem like a good place to play?

  5. COSSkinsFan - Jul 18, 2016 at 7:43 PM

    I don’t like the system qb label. If a who is productive for you who cares? It seems that New England has had qb’s who sub for Brady and then don’t do well other places. For awhile the eagles had the same success. McNabb put yp huge numbers for them. Does anyone call Brady a system qb? Why would they because who cares? He has made them a dynasty. I hope we have not gotten this arrogant. I remember a few years ago,I think it was Allen who said he could take a two fans from FedEx to play safety because of our pass rush. See how that turned out. I wanted Cousins signed long-term and from initial reports it looks like they didn’t offer gin close to market value. I hope he has a good year and we see him in burgandy and gold for a long time

  6. goback2rfk - Jul 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM

    I am not sure bringing in Jimmy Clausen is lighting to much fire under the a$$es of the Cousins side. LoL..
    Jimmy Clausen! haha! Wait a second! Where is Sexy Rexy?! I will take Rex over Jimmy any day.

    • sidepull - Jul 19, 2016 at 9:35 AM

      Even Colt McCoy isnt losing sleep by bringing in Clausen.

  7. Skulb - Jul 19, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    I think people are overthinking this a little. The Skins wanted more time and a bigger sample size to evaluate Cousins on. You have to assume that the brass will have a bar internally for where they feel he needs to be after the season for them to invest in him long term. I think winning the GB game would have made this conversation a different one, and Cousins needs to win over some big teams in 17 and preferably win a playoff game as well. Not fair maybe but this is what I think the process is now for Cousins. His way to a lucrative deal, either with the Skins or someone else, goes through the Carolina Panthers and the Arizona Cardinals. He can not keep trashing poor teams and losing against contenders and expect the perception of him to change. And I’m sure he doesn’t.
    As for Cousins this is good for him because I think he knows he has more to prove before he deserves a kind of contract he seems to be aiming for. And now he has 16 more games (at least) to do it. Last year at this point he didn’t even know if he would ever set for on a football field again, so he has come a long way already. Last year he played to have a career in football period. In 17 he will play for the chance to have a great one. If nothing else he should be extremely motivated.

  8. dcfaninecuador - Jul 19, 2016 at 11:46 AM

    KC will NOT play on the franchise tag in 2017. 2016 is his year to prove (or disprove) his value to the team. If he has a year like the last half of 2015, he will get the long-term deal he deserves. So what if it costs the team an extra 4 or 5 mil. It will be worth it to have a qb for the next 6-10 years. On the other hand, if he has a bad to mediocre year, they won’t pay him and he will move on, a la Brock Osweiler. They didn’t draft Sudfeld just for training camp fodder. The team seems to have most of the pieces in place to be a contender for years to come. The biggest unknown is QB. In the past, Snyder would have insisted on paying big bucks and long-term for KC, but now, this front office knows what it is doing. Let it play out. Archives

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