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Need to Know: The Redskins week that was—Rookie camp, Preston Smith and a takeover

May 21, 2016, 5:36 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, May 21, three days before the Washington Redskins start OTAs.

Timeline

—The Redskins last played a game 132 days ago. It will be 114 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: OTAs start 3; Redskins training camp starts 68; Preseason opener @ Falcons 82

The Redskins week that was

Redskins rookie camp roundup—The weather didn’t cooperate with the desire to get a close look at a large number the rookies. The Friday media availability was pushed to Saturday due to a wet forecast. There were two practice sessions scheduled for Friday and just one for Saturday, and that one was cut short by an approaching thunderstorm. But I was there long enough to gather a few observations and tidbits.

The light has turned on for Redskins’ Preston Smith—From the comments I got on this post it looks like Joe Barry gained some new fans thanks to how he dealt with Smith. Good football players have either talent or a good work ethic. Great players have both. Smith could be one of those players with both.

Long-term answers in place at tackle for Redskins—A year ago it looked like the Redskins had their two tackles in place for the long haul. It still does look like that but it’s Morgan Moses opposite Trent Williams, not Brandon Scherff. They should be in good shape for a while.

Tandler Takeover: What I’d do if I ran the Redskins—The main thing I missed on this list was uncoupling the preseason tickets from the regular season tickets and slash the preseason prices. It’s just indefensible to compel fans to pay for low quality practice football in order to get the real thing. Make them separate, charge $20 or $30 bucks each for them, give away a ton to kids, and try to turn it into a fun event. The team might take a bit of a financial hit but the goodwill gained would be well worth the cost.

Skins’ Fuller confident he’ll make a full recovery—On the one hand it’s unfortunate that the Redskins are going to have to closely monitor their third-round pick’s knee through OTAs, training camp, and the regular season. On the other hand, it’s fortunate that Fuller was dinged up because other wise he never would have been available in the third round.

Tweet of the day

I found this analysis from my friend to be interesting but perhaps a bit far fetched. In 2015 Kirk Cousins (5) scored more rushing touchdowns than the two Redskins tailbacks combined (4).

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  1. redskins12thman - May 21, 2016 at 7:43 AM

    What will the coaches be able to glean from OTAs? Do all 90 players attend all ten OTAs?

    • colorofmyskinz - May 21, 2016 at 8:33 AM

      I am pretty sure that is the purpose of the OTAs. Fully understand the 90 man roster and by the end of it develop who are the 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s so they can compete in training camp in 68 days. So the depth chart should be developed by the end of OTAs and they should also know who they might cut post June 1 and what prospects might be out there from other teams by June 1. There might be some last minute trading and FA deals that happen shortly after June 1 and they need to understand that group of 90 best of possible to understand where their holes are and if there are and last minute opportunities to adjust that roster from other reams Post June 1 cuts.

      I think we can still find a starting NT and potentially Center with the FA spurt that happens post June 1. Wishful thinking.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - May 21, 2016 at 9:31 AM

        They HOPE all 90 attend.

        And also, they can see where players are in their rehabs, etc. (I think they all get physicals, maybe Rich knows?)
        ~

        • Rich Tandler - May 21, 2016 at 1:30 PM

          No physicals for everyone until training camp. We’ll ask about the injured players during the course of OTAs, try to get info from both Jay and from the players. Might not all happen during the first media availability next Wednesday but after 3 OTAs and 3 days of minicamp we should have a pretty good handle on where they stand.

          The injured players are evaluated on a regular basis.

      • bk70 - May 21, 2016 at 10:11 AM

        I’m OK with choices currently available through OTAs and into training camp.
        At center, Lichtensteiger competes against the improved PS player Reiter with LeRibeus and/or Long as BU.
        At NT/DL, Kedric Golston competes with Jerrell Powe and Matt Ionnidis. We know going in that the DL will rotate according to situations on the field.

        Yes, I wanted Ryan Kelly to be our starting center, but it didn’t work out. I’m over that and moving on. I’m OK knowing that the GM and staff are working their plan to get that best players on the field for a successful season.

        • mtskins - May 21, 2016 at 10:58 AM

          So I’m in agreement with tempering expectations with the 7th rounders this year, but I’m have trouble fighting off some excitement about last year’s 7th rounder, Reiter. Lichtensteiger has turned in some solid play over the years but coming off the injury and with some of the scheme changes think we could use an upgrade. Thought Doctson was a great pick but it turns out they were at least considering Ryan Kelly at Center. Maybe Reiter can be the fall back plan. He supposedly had good athleticism coming out of college and if he can keep it the added size hoping he makes it at least a competition.

          Found this on the USF Website:

          “named the recipient of the Offensive Lineman Award as well as the Tough Man Award at the post-season banquet…earned a reputation as an “Iron Man” playing nearly every down the last three seasons.”

          Certainly seems to fit what they are trying to build on the Oline.

        • Trey Gregory - May 22, 2016 at 2:58 AM

          @MTSkins: I think there’s a significantly better chance that Long plays center over Reiter. If we can get Reiter to be a solid career backup then that was a great 7th round pick. That’s kind of how those later round guys go. Getting a quality starter in the 7th is very unusual. Don’t get your hopes up.

      • bangkokben - May 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM

        Why do you continue to carry on about what ISN’T going to happen. Rarely do players of quality get cut post June 1st. If teams don’t want these players, they can cut them before and designate two players as post June 1st cuts to push the dead money into next year’s cap. They cut these guys before because they don’t want them at OTAs if they don’t have plans for them. ANYONE who is released actually after June 1st will have a red flag. Junior Galette for instance. So which of the 32 starting centers ans 16 starting nose tackles are going to be available. You might as well be talking about the impending Russian invasion. Possible but not plausible.

        • Skulb - May 21, 2016 at 11:54 PM

          Not all teams red flag the same things though. If they did, Dallas wouldn’t have any players.

  2. I love that - May 21, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    Anyone see this. Trent punch Sherman in face? Wow I love Trent. Well deserved for Sherman

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - May 21, 2016 at 4:44 PM

      I remember it well. I was feeling so good about that game after we were up 14-0, too.
      ~

    • Trey Gregory - May 22, 2016 at 3:05 AM

      I think everyone who watched the game saw that. And every fan should have watched. It was a playoff game after one of the best and most exciting seasons the franchise had in years.

      I love it from both guys though. So many people hate Sherm but I wish every single player on my team played with that much passion. Losing should hurt that bad and you should want to win that bad. When they showed Norman crying after the Super Bowl I thought to myself “I want that guy on my team. I want losing to hurt my players that bad.” Never thought it would actually happen thought. Thanks Scot!

      Every athlete in the NFL has talent. Every single one. It’s the desire, passion, work ethic, competitiveness, and drive that separate the superstars.

  3. kenlinkins - May 21, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    Rich, I saw were you wrote that the Redskins really wanted Ryan Kelly (Center – Alabama). Seeing how the Redskins didn’t trade up to get Kelly I would have to assume that the Redskins figured that the Delta between Kelly and Doctson (or any of the 3 WR’s sitting at there at pick 21) was not worth the 100 draft value points required to pull off a trade. It would have cost the Redskins about their 4th round pick & maybe a 7th round pick to make the trade if the Colts were interested. (or did they try and could not make a deal)? The Redskins gained about 135 draft value points by making 3 trades later and banked 3 more 2017 picks. So, is the best way to see this “Kelly vs. Doctson plus 2 picks in 2017” or Kelly was gone end of story?

    • John - May 21, 2016 at 2:38 PM

      Kelly was gone and they were not going to move up for him or anyone else for that matter. Scott M does not believe in moving up, “reaching”. They really wanted Amari Cooper last year but did not reach for him either.

      • Skulb - May 21, 2016 at 11:57 PM

        This was really why all the Kelly talk was so pointless. There was no way he was getting past Indy, and they would have had to trade up for him, which they have repeatedly said they won’t do. I was miming his name when Indy announced their draft pick, it was that obvious.

      • Trey Gregory - May 22, 2016 at 3:11 AM

        I also think McCloughan just loved Kelly. Meaning that I don’t think he wanted him so bad because he thinks center is a huge need. He just believes he will be a great center.

        This whole “we desperately need help at center” hype has gotten way out of control. The OLine is in pretty decent shape guys.

        I could say that Scot not drafting a single Olineman is proof of that. But you couk counter with BPA. Still, there were some decent UFA centers out there and I didn’t hear anything about Wsshington trying to pursue them. We have a deep group of young, talented, relatively high draft pick linemen on this team and a fantastic OLine coach. It’s all going to be okay guys.

    • Rich Tandler - May 21, 2016 at 4:55 PM

      The latter. Mcc was not going to trade up, period.

  4. redskinsnameisheretostay - May 22, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    As a season ticket holder, I’m all in for a Tandler Takeover!

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