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Need to Know: Possible Friday draft targets for the Redskins

Apr 29, 2016, 6:25 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Friday, April 29, the day of the second and third rounds of the NFL Draft.


At Redskins Park: Conference call with Redskins’ draft picks soon after each one has been made; Jay Gruden talks to the media after third round is over.

—The Redskins last played a game 110 days ago. It will be 136 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Rookie minicamp 14; OTAs start 25; Redskins training camp starts 90

Hot topic

S Keanu Neal, Florida—Neal loves to hit and at 6-0, 211 he can pack quite a punch. He’s probably best at strong safety right now but he played some free at Florida and it looks like he could get the hang of it.

C Nick Martin, Notre Dame—He’s smart, technically sound, and built for power blocking. Not as strong or athletic as his brother Zack of the Cowboys but he comes at a third-round price. Maybe Martin isn’t a Week 1 starter at centerbut he could take over at some point during the season and by the start of 2017 for certain.

WR Mike Thomas, Ohio State—On Wednesday Urban Meyer called him “the most competitive player I’ve ever had.” Guess who loves competitive players? Scot McCloughan could be holding his breath hoping that Thomas falls to the Redskins in the second.

DL Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech—At 323 pounds, he packs the most weight of any of the top 10 defensive line prospects. Like just about all of the other prospects who will be available he has some technique flaws that he needs to work on but he can be very helpful right away.

RB C. J. Prosise, Notre Dame—He’s not small, packing 220 pounds onto his 6-0 frame. Prosise is a former slot receiver and he shows good ability to catch the ball on the run. Friday may be too soon to take a running back but if the Redskins trade back and get multiple third-round picks the possibility increases.

RB Alex Collins, Arkansas—If you want more of a north-south runner than Collins is your guy. He runs with determination and power. He had 17 career 100-yard games and is one of three SEC backs to rush for 1,000 yards in three seasons.

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:33 AM

    Well we finally got our BIG WR we have been wanting. He could easily add 15 pounds and live at 217-220 without affecting his speed or vertical. It would help his durability as well. We finally have the making of our Megatron!!

    This is also strong indication that the amount we are paying for Garcon and DJax will not be tolerated beyond 2016. This might even spark Garcon to consider an extension and reduction in pay to stay.


    • austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:40 AM

      Actually…I would prefer Jackson and Garcon to play at their full rate this year..both of them know that one of them will be gone after the season…of course..maybe they know they will get a job easily, but at the end…if they don´t prove their worth their pocket might look a bit more empty with their next team…
      So I see both of them full go, and show us who deserves to stay a Redskin!

      • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:51 AM

        Please don’t get me wrong about Garcon. I am a huge supporter, he is grit, baller and a great downfield blocker.

        I just don’t think we feature him as a $8-10M per year WR. And now with Norman, we can’t afford to have him at that rate. At $6M he would make a great 3-year deal for both parties. I would love to watch him in the Super Bowl and playoffs over the next 3 years.

        • austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:54 AM

          Well I agree actually with the rate of 6M…
          At the end, I´m fine with whatever they do, I would just not cut him now what some do suggest or wonder…as I think he is the perfect example for Doctson to learn from….

        • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:59 AM

          Oh fully agree. Absolutely not cut. Just make an attempt to restructure and keep him longer at a reasonable rate. I think he would be motivated to take the restructure.

        • shermanp79 - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:25 AM

          6M for Garcon next year is still too high. I think the 3.5-4.5M range. They need a break, they have BIG Contracts other places so they will go youth once Cousins has another year to settle.

        • ET - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM

          $3.5 to 4.5 million isn’t a realistic salary for a receiver of Garçon’s caliber. $6 million? Maybe. Just wishing it doesn’t make it so.

      • Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:36 PM

        I don’t think its a clear cut case as to what ppl are saying …if djax ball out and p.garcon do the same thing scot m. Will find away to keep them…now I do believe its a make or break season for guys like Ryan grant and Trent Murphy…djax had one hamstring injury and ppl wanna give this guy the boot there’s plenty of WRs that plays well into they 30’s…josh doctson I think is Andre Roberts replacement this season if they draft another WR I don’t think Ryan grant job is as safe as we think or rashad Ross

        • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 2:05 PM

          Moneyman, I’m going to disagree — a little. If both of our guys ball out, there isn’t enough money to pay them and the other Redskin free agents. The tag is too expensive as well. They will also be the top WRs available in a weak FA class. I suspect that Doctson is Garcon’s 2017 replacement and either they try to keep Jackson at the end of the year, or draft his replacement next year. Roberts is definitely gone and Grant will be auditioning this year to keep his job. But even if Murphy and Grant are gone, the money that frees up is barely enough to count ($1.7 million combined in 2017).

    • 226thebeatdontstop - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:22 AM

      What do you mean the amount the Redskins are paying Garcon and Jackson won’t be tolerated? Are you hitting that gas mask with Tunsil?? They are getting paid market value based on their production, should paying Cousins 20 million dollars be tolerated ? When Jackson’s not in the game what happens to the Redskin offense…..

      • renhoekk2 - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:13 AM

        There is a difference between getting paid market value for the position you play, and actually producing enough to warrant that pay. Most teams paying two WR $10M/yr each don’t have their TE as their leading receiver. Jackson blew off the off-season training program and inured his hamstring the first time he tried to sprint downfield, and then missed the next 6 games. Will he actually behave like a professional this year and take the off season conditioning programs seriously? And Garcon hasn’t produced to warrant $10M since 2013.

        • Skulb - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:47 AM

          Agree about Jackson. His attitude was dubious last year and he has to have no slack at all right now. I don’t agree about Garcon though, who dropped about one ball the whole year and fought like a beast for every yard. You can’t blame him for having to share reps in a WCO. He still provides a very safe pair of hands down the field and all the blocking you can ask for.
          My guess would be that Doctson replaces Jackson after 2016 and that Pierre either hits next year’s FA for a fishing trip or restructures in good time. You can still get three to four more high quality years out of him, but he needs to understand that he’s about to go over the hill and that the money will go down a bit.
          It could also be the other way round of course. But for me to get on board with that I am going to have to see a lot more effort and dedication from DeSean this year that I did in 2015. It was like he thought he didn’t have to work at all.

        • renhoekk2 - Apr 29, 2016 at 10:20 AM

          Not saying Garcon is not a good WR and doesn’t ball out. Just his actual productions as far as receptions/yardage/TD’s is not worth $10M/yr.

        • 226thebeatdontstop - Apr 29, 2016 at 10:36 AM

          The issue is the Redskin defense is poor at best in stopping the run, pressuring and sacking quarterbacks and getting off the field on 3rd down..

          If you can’t stop the run or pressure the qb this team will not improve ,this receiver was drafted way too high ,defensive playmakers were available and should have been chosen…Garcon nor Jackson calls the plays, take them off the field and see how productive this offense is…

        • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:08 PM

          Fully agree here and is why I started the discussion and is exactly why we used our first round pick on WR. Scot and Gruden also agree.

        • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:33 PM

          There are very few producing at market value. That is the most ridiculous argument. Dez Bryant has a cap hit of $17 million this season. Should he give back some money because of last year? Even when he was playing, he wasn’t as effective. Wasn’t Garcon & Jackson at least as good as 60% of Dez Bryant? Or are the two together worth 115% of Dez?

          Both Garcon and Jackson will get what the market dictates to them come free agency. There is zero reason for Garcon to restructure considering the 2017 FA class of WRs. Both will be the most sought over as the receivers that are scheduled for FA are either OLDER or will be made unavailable by their respective teams.

        • John - Apr 30, 2016 at 10:04 PM

          Garcon caught 100+ balls back in 2013 because the other receivers sucked plain and simple.

          Speed guys and hamstrings don’t always relate to conditioning. Remember Santana Moss was great in 2005. Hamstring 2006. Great in 2007. Hamstring 2008.

          Garcon got big bucks to come here from Indy. He has said he’s not going for a pay cut. He’ll be gone if he’s not flexible.

          Jackson can be given a lower base with more years to keep him. He unlike Garcon has not lost a step.

        • John - Apr 30, 2016 at 10:11 PM

          Garcon will never catch 100 balls ever again, unless its spread over several seasons. Consider Reed caught 80, Crowder 60, Jackson “x”, Thompson “x”, Carrier “x” and now Doctson who should be 100 times more reliable than Roberts, Ross and Grant combined.

    • Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:30 PM

      I compared him to the same guy jay gruden did AJ green from the Bengals because few WRs can move they body in mid air to grab the football the way he do…other compared him to Jordan Mathews from the eagles but I think josh doctson is better because he fight for the football and knows how to create separation like Jordan reed

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM

        Actually getting separation is Dotson biggest question. Also, he has little experience blocking downfield and even worst has limited route running experience.

  2. austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:38 AM

    Butler was already taken….

  3. PhillySkinsFan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:38 AM

    Can someone PLEASE report what they got for trading back one spot in the first? Doggone it!

    • austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:40 AM

      6 rounder next year!

      • PhillySkinsFan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:49 AM

        Thanks, bruh. I knew it wouldn’t be much. Just wanted to confirm.

    • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:42 AM

      Yes 6th round next year. Extra pick for no real change in who they would have taken. Very smart.

    • Bob - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:14 AM

      6th next year

    • Skulb - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM

      Next year’s sixth rounder. But don’t feel bad. It was a completely meaningless trade for the Texans, who basically gave us a free draft pick at no cost to us whatsoever. We weren’t going to pick their corner obviously, and they traded up one place to get him for no reason. One of the more mindless trades I can remember seeing in any draft.

      “Here, take our picks! We have too many anyway.”

      • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:41 PM

        Great move by the ‘skins scaring the Texans with, “Minnesota wants our pick.”

      • bowlregard - Apr 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM

        Actually, the Texans making that trade might have preempted a trade by a team picking behind them from trading with the Redskins and grabbing Fuller.

  4. austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:42 AM

    Well although I would love to have that center set that we finally can close down that O-line topic…
    D-line should be way to go here now…I have no clue how that 2nd they will turn out but it would be just…amazing if Billings, Robinson or Reed would be still there…or actually Noah Spence, I have a feeling they consider him if he’s there….

    • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 6:54 AM

      Yep DLine or Safety will for sure be next pick in my opinion.

  5. garg8050 - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:02 AM

    If a run starts on d-linemen, would they consider moving up to get the one they want? Idk…definitely need a starting caliber or at least rotation worthy player out of this draft. The prospect of Golston playing more than a few snaps per game is not a good thing…

    • austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:13 AM

      Noooo…as I followed everything around Scott its never about trading up…

  6. austrianhttrfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:05 AM

    Rich or anybody else,
    As CSN has a “new” web page…I cannot watch the videos anymore its super frustrating…
    It´s saying
    “This content is not available in your location”….so yes…I´m sitting in Austria, but before it worked as well…
    Can someone tell me what to do or Rich can you maybe ask someone to change that into some form that also europeans or at least Austrians have again access :D… super frustrating…

    • devlyn310188 - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:59 AM

      Same for me here in the UK :(

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:50 AM

      Not sure if you’re the one who brought this to my attention on Twitter but someone did this morning and I’ve passed it along to the tech folks.

  7. sidepull - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:25 AM

    I think they got the best WR. I fully get the logic of the pick. Its two years now, and they have left great D prospects on the board. Last year was a great draft. So whose to argue? Lets see how it pays out. I have a feeling the DL/NT prospects are going to start flying off the board this evening. Maybe they snag a Ridgeway, and if they want to pick up a RB I hope its Booker. Booker has great vision, no nonsense, do it all back. When its all said and done I hope we get a C and a NT. Dont want Ragland.

    • colorofmyskinz - Apr 29, 2016 at 7:42 AM

      Agreed here. Need middle of both front lines bad. I think a crossover NT/DT is critical and should be our next pick. Foster and Compton are good but not outstanding and if we do not sick you’re that front D line in the middle with a starter they are going to be very busy this year.

      • babyteal1 - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:58 AM

        The problem is they are not good and we will continue to suffer at stopping the run with those two individuals. I do agree with going with the NT/DT.

  8. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:02 AM

    Hassan Ridgeway is another DT possibility at 53.

    • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:39 AM

      I agree100%, I like Ridgeway a lot. With Clark going so high maybe Reed and Robinson didn’t grade out as high as many were thinking.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:13 AM

        Add Billings to that list.

      • sidepull - Apr 29, 2016 at 10:34 AM


  9. 226thebeatdontstop - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:26 AM

    Picking a guy this wide receiver this high is a reach especially considering how porous this teams run defense is and it’s inability to pressure and sack quarterbacks…

    This move is scary it indicates this idiot Gruden has influence on draft picks… Getting cute and trying to draft defensive PLAYMAKERS on day two and three are risky when they were there last night …..SMDH

    • cowboyhater - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:39 AM

      That’s why you are not a GM, and you failing in your attempt to play one on here. WR is a huge need for this team. It’s about the future, and looking at where the depth is in this draft.

      • 226thebeatdontstop - Apr 29, 2016 at 10:41 AM

        Your not a GM either,more like a fanatic who is clueless about the game. Ultimately it’s won in the trenches, drafting guys won’t cut it, they need defensive playmakers . They ranked 28th against the run! Defensive tackles, edge rushers, and nose tackles should be chosen day one and two, top tier producers not hacks who are not difference makers.

        Go hit that bong with Tunsil and chill

        • cowboyhater - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM

          Grow up. Your immaturity is evident, and lack of knowledge is more glaring.

        • Rich Tandler - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:32 PM

          226, cut the the “clueless” comments. I’ve found that the people that use that are usually the clueless ones. If you want to show off your highly superior knowledge do it in your argument. Oh and the bong stuff is dumb, too.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:46 AM

      Did somebody say “reach?”


      • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:37 PM

        I believe I had that (the reaching part) as well in Rich’s “get ready” piece.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:47 AM

      Wow, a head coach with influence on the draft! I need to get writing, we have a real scandal on our hands!

      • Skulb - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM

        Yeah what are you doing just sitting around with stuff like this going on Rich? This is almost as shocking as a high school kid smoking pot through a gas mask!

    • cmehustle - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:04 AM

      It was a good pick. We’ll certainly need recievers this time next season. As for defense, I feel like the run on D lineman starts today. We’ll be right in the middle of that action. Please wait until the end of the draft, then we’ll see where we’re at.

    • mattphillipsdc - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:34 AM

      I was a little shocked too at first, but I understand completely now that I had time to learn about Josh and why we couldn’t pass on him. We will be able to get our defensive line needs met in the 2nd & 3rd rounds and couldn’t pass up a talent like that especially to fill our future needs in a big way.

  10. kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:33 AM

    Rich, Very interesting night, The Redskins trade back one spot knowing that Houston is looking at the same position they are and allowing them to pick first for a 6th round pick in 2017 (a BOLD move). After that the Redskins pass on Treadwell and pick Josh Doctson. Then Treadwell is picked next and by that time I am saying WTH? Then I watch as Treadwell gives his after pick interview and say “Wow, I think the Redskins just dodged a bullet by not picking Treadwell.” Then I watch Josh Doctson speaking later on and I know that the Redskins GM got the better of all three picks. Rich, had you heard that Treadwell didn’t interview well before last night?

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 8:55 AM

      Ken, Houston was widely linked to Will Fuller. For instance, I had them in my mock draft contest entry. (But at 22, not 21, of course.) So did a lot of other people.

      It’s a shame we couldn’t get a bigger haul of picks from Denver, for instance, for Paxton Lynch. But Elway knew the market…

      • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:10 AM

        When I first saw it was Houston moving up my thinking was they won a bidding war (maybe over Denver) for the 21st pick and the Redskins had made a heck of a deal, but then saw it was just a 6th round pick for 2017 and knew that Houston was just paying insurance for Fuller but you never know. I do give Elway credit, his father showed him how to work the system and gain the max. He got $140K out of the Yankee’s (more then the top pick that year), drafted before Tony Gwynn and used that to get where he wanted to go.

    • sidepull - Apr 29, 2016 at 10:37 AM

      Yea they snagged the right WR

      • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:54 AM

        I agree, and IMO the trade back was about buying more time to find someone willing to pay to move up. when that didn’t happen, the GM picked the right guy.

  11. renhoekk2 - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:26 AM

    There are plenty of DT in this draft that can be plugged in as “run-stuffers” if that is the concern. Obviously they would like a prospect that can add more in the way of pass rush, but if the biggest need is stopping the run there are plenty of those guys still available. Not to mention ILB prospects that can upgrade that position and help with improving run defense.

  12. skinsgame - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Best player available strikes again. The “need” for WR in 2017 can be applied to every position. They “need” Kerrigans replacement to start grooming. They need Moses replacement st RT to get reps. They need RB’s always. That’s why Carolina drafted Butler. Because even though they have (arguably) the best D line in the league, they have a GM that knows “need” is constant and applies to all 3 down positions.

    • Skulb - Apr 29, 2016 at 9:59 AM

      There is a difference between the gradual turnover at all positions over time and the inevitable dilemma facing the Skins next year at WR. Both the #1 and #2 WRs will possibly be gone after 2016. Kerrigan and Moses will probably not up and quit next spring so the need is nowhere near as urgent..

  13. skinsdiehard - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    Where is Nile Lawrence-Stample rated? He seems like a good NT that we can take even later in the draft and still be effective player.

    • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:30 AM

      I think he is a project with a lot of up side. I think he could get reps later in 2016 if taken by the Redskins. IMO the Redskins would have to gain a few more picks in the later rounds in order to take a risk on him but he could be late round gold. One other problem is that he doesn’t play special teams so he would take a roster spot as a pure 3-4 NT and with all the 4 man fronts the Redskins play he would not get much playing time in preseason which would delay his development, but if he can make the PS coming out of Camp he could make the 53 man roster by Nov and see playing time when it counts.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:30 PM

      I think he could go in the fifth to seventh. Needs work but might be able to play 8-12 snaps/game at nose.

  14. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:14 AM

    Giants say they didn’t reach for Eli Apple

    Translation: The Giants reached for Eli Apple.

    • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM

      Apple is a young guy who was just thrown into the Ohio State defense due to his speed. He is very raw but talented and after a adjustment period should be a fine CB the Redskins will be concerned with twice a year. If he takes his coaching to heart (which he will have to do after seeing so many flags early in the NFL) he will be a very good CB. Give this kid a year and he might become the next Redskin killer. IMO he makes the Giants better in the long run.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 29, 2016 at 11:57 AM

        Possibly true, Ken.

        To me, he seems to be a very good athlete who has an ideal CB shape. But few actual CB skills.

        • kenlinkins - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:42 PM

          Agreed, Talent he has, CB Skills are lacking big time.

      • ET - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:09 PM

        This isn’t a situation with mutually exclusive viewpoints. The Giants probably overreached for Apple. But he’s probably going to be a damn good corner in a year or two. Both things are true, IMO.

        (Anyone else surprised by how high Karl Joseph went?)

        • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 2:09 PM

          As for Joseph, NO. No, I’m not surprised. What surprises me is that we take what the pundits think as a measuring stick despite every year them being off by a mile.

      • Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:41 PM

        Eli apple is nothing to worry about josh doctson will out jump him and juk him out his shoes like Jordan reed…if they drafted Hargreaves I’ll say OK he’s a problem but they pass on him thank goodness

      • Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:50 PM

        Eli apple didn’t pop off the screen when you watch his game tape so that’s why everybody shock he went high…Hargreaves is way better then him I’m glad giants made that stupid mistake

  15. redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:19 PM

    There is not much more a team can do to build success around a QB. If anything it shows the team is giving Cousins every opportunity possible to succeed. This is especially true with the amount defensive talent that is left but should be swallowed up quickly in the early to mid second round.

    While I, like many, are disappointed right now with the 1st selection; the draft needs to work itself out to completion before a genuine opinion can be made. I may still end up really liking this draft by Sunday. ]]

    It’s fair as a fan to fully expect Josh to make an immediate impact. He made some impressive catches in college and as 1st round pick he must be able to do the same in the NFL.

  16. Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:26 PM

    I can see Chris Jones falling to us…the guy knows how to get to the QB…but he also had the same problem as Preston smith bein lazy at times I think redskins can work with him….CJ prosise might fall to us also but I think he will get pick right before we get on the clock….I kept telling ppl redskins is not really worried about there defensive line as much as the reporters and others are saying…when you know what you got on the roster talent wise at the position you can address a need later in the draft…there’s a lot of players that’s won’t be drafted is just as good as the ones that was drafted…mike mayock said the D-line is so deep you can go get a D-line guy after the draft and he will be a day 1 starter…when jay gruden was ask about drafting D-linemen he said we will address that need later…so calm down ppl…they really wanted C Ryan Kelly but the colts got him

    • hail74 - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:40 PM

      Agreed. Also, the biggest need on the Dline is nose but that guy will prob only play 35% of D snaps. I think the fact that so many of these run stuffing DLs dropped shows how teams view these guys in a pass heavy league.

      • Mr.moneylover - Apr 29, 2016 at 1:47 PM

        I believe if a guy can get in the backfield for sacks he can stop the run…redskins want pass rushers across they D-line they don’t want that old school NT that only will play few snaps…pot roast didn’t do neither so he wasn’t resigned…the best game pot roast had was against the bears but that’s about it

  17. wncskinsfan - Apr 29, 2016 at 2:01 PM

    Tonight will be fun to watch unfold. I am sure there will be controversy about who Scot picks, or does not pick, but it is really fun to watch that man do his thing at draft time. this is like Christmas for him. Second year of a rebuild, things are looking good, I trust what Scot is doing, and look forward to whoever he adds. The UDFAs will be interesting, too. Enjoy this evening, cheers! Archives

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