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Need to Know: Redskins fan’s guide to getting ready for the NFL draft

Apr 28, 2016, 5:57 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, April 28, the day of the first round of the NFL Draft.

Timeline

At Redskins Park: Conference call with Redskins’ first-round pick soon after pick has been made; Jay Gruden talks to the media after first round is over.

—The Redskins last played a game 109 days ago. It will be 137 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: Rookie minicamp 15; OTAs start 26 Redskins training camp starts 91

Hot topic

Get ready for a late night. The latest that the Redskins have drafted in the first round since they went with the 8:00 prime time start for the first round is 16th, when they took Ryan Kerrigan in 2011. They picked fourth in 2010 (Trent Williams), second in 2012 (Robert Griffin III), and fifth last year (Brandon Scherff). Those were pretty early nights. With 10 minutes between picks the Redskins won’t be on the clock until at least 11:00, maybe closer to 11:30.

Get ready to hear about all of the flaws of the Redskins’ first-round draft pick. This just in—players picked past the top five all have flaws. The further down in the first round you go the more issues the players have. Scot McCloughan isn’t going to be looking for a perfect player. He will be looking at that player’s issues and trying to figure out if the coaches can fix them and/or work around them. But perhaps most importantly, McCloughan will have looked into that player’s background to see if he is willing to put in the work needed to improve his game.

Get ready to be surprised. As many possibilities as there are with 20 picks before the Redskins go on the clock and the unorthodox way that McCloughan looks at “football players”, the Redskins’ pick could be someone who hasn’t been on anybody’s radar. Yes, I know you wouldn’t really be shocked if the “experts” are wrong. The focus has been on five to ten possibilities, there are probably twice that many actual possibilities.

Get ready to see the Redskins come away empty handed. Being that close to the end of the first round, a trade back could easily land with them having their first pick of the draft come in the second round. That doesn’t start until 7 p.m. on Friday.

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  1. Bryan - Apr 28, 2016 at 6:24 AM

    I understand the logic of trading back to acquire more picks, but dag I can’t wait another night. We must pick tonight!!!

    • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM

      We all want to trade back and get more picks until it’s 11:30 PM and we’ve waited (not so patiently) for 3+ hours not to mention since the Super Bowl.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:51 AM

      I could add one more bullet point–Get ready to realize that Scot doesn’t care what you want! At all.

  2. colorofmyskinz - Apr 28, 2016 at 6:26 AM

    Very accurate and realistic assessment Rich! The keys are in the hands of Scot and the team. I trust they will make the best decision for the org. I also know I and many here will scrutinize the decisions… Why? Because we are the most dedicated fans in football and we desperately want to see the success of our team. And we care.

    One thing for sure… Scot knows how to pick them better than most and Snyder has proven he has turned the keys over to those that know what they are doing. Snyder finally has grown up. Kudos to him.

    Hoping we get a great group of “football players”. And the reality is we won’t really know until about thanksgiving when we play Dallas.

    HTTR!

  3. redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:14 AM

    I the the scheduling format of these drafts today. Start on Saturday morning like they once did. This is not some prime time game. It’s a damn draft!

  4. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:14 AM

    The Browns are picking Vontae Mack no matter what.
    ~

  5. redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:15 AM

    rephrase…
    “I hate the scheduling format of these drafts today.”

    • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM

      I hate it too but it is definitely prime time TV. Two networks will likely get higher ratings then any of the playoff hockey and NBA games as well as all the baseball.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 9:45 AM

        What NHL Playoff Hockey is not captivating enough?

        • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 9:47 AM

          Only to the local markets and Canada. Go Caps!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 12:30 PM

          Hear …hear on Go Cap!

  6. John - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:25 AM

    Reliable sources say they move back and select the safety from WVU or stay put and go DLine. It all comes down to if folks atr hot and heavy for one of the 3 WRs or perhaps the QB, Lynch (Denver or New Orleans).

  7. troylok - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:58 AM

    Stay up to 11:30 and then have the Redskins trade away the pick? No thanks. I’ll count on Tandler to have a draft update waiting for us in the morning.

  8. ericskins44 - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM

    If we take a d lineman, I hope its in a trade down scenario since it seems to be a deep class for that position. If we stay put give us Kelly or Treadwell. One question is I never hear S’ua Cravens as a possibility for the Skins. In a trade down scenario he’s a player I would like to get. Forty times are over blown, you can either play football or you can’t and Treadwell and Cravens can flat out play football.

  9. bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    Get ready for the armchair pundits (some Redskin fans) to claim that McCloughan reached on his top pick. I’m firmly in the camp that the Redskins will draft a young man on most big boards between 30-50 that hasn’t been linked to the Redskins with their first pick.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 28, 2016 at 8:38 AM

      Here’s Standig’s latest.

      Stanley to the Chargers at 3???

      And we get Karl Joseph at 21.

      http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/ben-standigs-2016-nfl-mock-draft-final-first-round-revealed
      ~

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 9:44 AM

        I don’t know where this lobbying for Joseph at 21 came but it’s not happening. I just don’t see where there is enough body of work there for Scot to feel confident he is worth that pick. It’s BVA at that spot and he is just not going to be that guy at 21.

        • John - Apr 28, 2016 at 10:44 AM

          Go to the ESPN880 app or audio vault and check yesterdays Sports Fix. Sheehan had the Draft Insider and Shifted on and both confirmed that. If not, they go DLine but did not specify which one. Perhaps they feel drafting the kid from WVU would solidify the starting unit in the secondary, making it stronger as a group.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 12:39 PM

          It’s very possible Joseph could improve the secondary. I recall when he played UMD earlier, he stood out most the game. He made a huge stop on 4th down that just revealed how lost a coach Edsall was.

          I don’t deny the kid can ball and he hits hard. However ACL injuries are very unpredictable on recovery for skill players like him. Joseph doesn’t have much size so he needs his legs back 100%. You can’t know if he can get return to form. I think the media is over hyping this one because he is a big risk pick in the 1st round. If he is being selected in the late first then that means some teams would have taken him in the top 10. I just don’t think he was that good of a safety in college. Maybe he could have shown it last season if he didn’t incur the injury, but there were times he missed tackles that resulted in huge plays. If we had a more well round roster than I can see this as a luxury pick in the early to mid 2nd round. I’d rather some other team gamble on him.

        • John - Apr 28, 2016 at 1:53 PM

          My sense is being there is enough depth in regards to DLine prospects and that there will be a run on Treadwell, Doctson and the WR from Notre Same in the early 20s, they’ll have the opportunity to move down. Denver, Cleveland or New Orleans might want to trade to get Lynch.

      • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 10:46 AM

        Mayock: Jarran Reed
        Jeremiah: Karl Joseph
        Brooks: A’Shawn Robinson
        Davis: Reed
        Zierlein: Vernon Butler
        Casserly: Reed
        Reuter: Reed
        Conway: Robinson
        Banks: Robinson
        Burke: Ryan Kelly
        Farrar: Robinson
        Bedard: Reed
        SB Nation: Reggie Ragland
        Walter Football: Reed
        Boyer: Robinson
        Brinson: Ragland
        Rang: Ragland
        Brugler: Ragland
        Prisco: Joseph
        Dubin: Ragland
        McIntyre: Ragland
        Klopsis: Robinson
        Drafttek: Joseph
        Fedor: Andrew Billings
        Volin: Kelly
        Tanier: Robinson
        Maske: Reed
        Ransom: Robinson
        Miller: Laquon Treadwell
        Ruiz: Robinson
        NFL Draft Geek: Robinson
        Myers: Reed
        Wolfe: Sheldon Rankins
        Bouchette: Robert Nkemdiche
        Lewis: Treadwell

        Feel free to add more. Don’t have McShay or Kiper’s finals yet. I’m expecting Zierlein to change his pick in the final and the Redskins to draft Butler or a WR not named Treadwell.

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 28, 2016 at 11:44 AM

          The knock on A’Shawn is *maybe* he doesn’t have that love of football that McGlue prizes.

          Otherwise, we could have just picked Leonard Williams last year, right? Williams would be ahead of every DT prospect this year.
          ~

        • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM

          What can I say? I think our GM is more like Tony Gwynn than Bryce Harper. He’s going to make contact but settle for singles anytime he can — especially in the top rounds.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 12:44 PM

          The choice looks unanimous to me

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 12:48 PM

          Leonard Williams is a DE and I think Preston Smith was a nice replacement for him which allowed the team to nail down a future perennial elite guard in Schreff. I prefer how that draft worked out over selecting Leonard Williams. Maybe, it’ll prove wrong later but right now it seems like the right choice.

        • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 1:39 PM

          Moving forward, I’m rooting for Scherff to be the better player. But even if he does become a perennial elite guard, that would still be less than a perennial elite DE — even in a 3-4 front. Can’t complain how it has shaped out thus far. We could be looking at best o-linemen if it hadn’t.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:22 PM

          In wondering if the projections of Treadwell coming to us are a compliment to him making it out of the first even with injury and slow 40 OR if they are really just that high on Doctson that he wont be available at 21. I’ve been reading he’s expected to go first at the position was hoping there’d be a run on DBs or QB’s and Doctson would fall to us.

        • bangkokben - Apr 29, 2016 at 12:18 PM

          Doctson did fall to us; so good on you — and me as well since I rightly predicted us taking a receiver not named Treadwell solely based on who WASN’T predicted by the final mocks.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 29, 2016 at 3:47 PM

          I backslid a little bit, I’m not going to lie. I had a change of heart and wanted to take Billings. I saw Dallas take Elliot and thought we should respond. They’re further along than NY. Yet either the MADTV guy already wanted JD or he was responding to NY grabbing Eli Apple. Everyone but the EGGles got better yesterday I’m happy! Hopefully Billings has a video of him kicking babies in the face or something somewhere and we can get him at 42.

        • Rich Tandler - Apr 29, 2016 at 3:58 PM

          McCloughan does not make picks as a reaction to what other teams in or out of the division do in the draft. You don’t jumble your draft board due to a surprise pick. That applies to all competent GM’s and even many incompetent ones.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 29, 2016 at 4:02 PM

          Yeah I’m nowhere near competent. I’ve spent all my time lobbying for JD and threw in the towel for Billings at the last second. This is why I don’t get paid to make such decisions. I’m glad the MADTV guy listened to my earlier voicemails and not the incoherent texts I sent after Elliot came off. #DirectLine #BadAdviceOnTheLineOne

        • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 29, 2016 at 3:51 PM

          Wish we could’ve gotten a better pick for giving up 21. Will Fuller has questionable hands I can’t believe he went first.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 28, 2016 at 7:38 PM

          You have to realize that I’m convinced Preston Smith will not stay at OLB. He is the DE for this team in the future.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 28, 2016 at 9:30 PM

          The run on DB’s is happening! Andrew Billings please fall to us!

  10. rtcwon - Apr 28, 2016 at 9:36 AM

    Guess I’m in the minority that doesn’t care much which kid they take. I put way more stock in training camp then the draft; when you can start to learn the truth about these kids.

    I was upset last year when the consensus best D player fell to us but was passed. Turns out he wasn’t that much of a better player than Scherff after all.

    In fact, other than the two QBs Cooper & Peters were the only players worth half the excitement most fans feel about the draft. Sorry for the buzz kill. I hope all enjoy a rather insignificant event regardless of the outcome. :)

  11. mauriceatwood - Apr 28, 2016 at 10:16 AM

    I just hope they are able to get some players to make the team more competitive next season. The draft is a crap shoot in many cases and finding good, sustainable players is an art craft that very few GMs have. If the Redskins can get 10 picks (assuming there is a trade or two made during the draft) and 4 of them give significant contributions next season that would make this a good draft. If those 4 positions are DL, S, WR, and C then that would make it even better. We could use another RB as well.

  12. kenlinkins - Apr 28, 2016 at 11:21 AM

    Back when the Redskins were sitting at 3-5 I started using the Draft Simulators. In reviewing some of the earlier ones I had QB Wentz in the 6th round, RB Elliot 4th, WR Treadwell 3rd, CB Apple 5th, C Kelly 4th, S Joseph 6th. Funny how 1/2 a season of College football pushed all these guys into the first round. IMO, there are only about 10 real Blue Chip NFL ready guys in this draft, but there are about 60 guys who grade out somewhere between 20th and 80th (middle first round to late 3rd round) who could ready help a team like the Redskins. That seems to be the sweet spot in this draft. In order to gain more picks in that area, the Redskins would have to trade back their first pick but I just do not see a player that another team might feel is a must to have and worth trading up for. IMO the trading back will not start until the 3rd round for the Redskins and they will use their first and second round picks. IMO the Redskins GM will stay with BPA, I just have no idea who he has rated where and what he feels makes on player better than another. By Saturday, we Redskins fans will have a better read on the GM after seeing who he drafted. It will be fun to watch as anything could happen. My best guess is WR Treadwell, but that is only a guess.

  13. James McFullan - Apr 28, 2016 at 3:30 PM

    Let’s bring Muhammad Wilkerson to DC.

    http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Muhammad-Wilkerson-would-love-to-play-for-Redskins-45041666

    • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 3:41 PM

      There’s no money left in the wallet. We just bought Ice cream. Now you want cake?

      • James McFullan - Apr 28, 2016 at 3:57 PM

        No Lichtensteiger, Roberts, DHall, Riley, Garçon, or DJax and the Redskins could get him next year when he is only 27 years old and just hitting his prime.

        • ET - Apr 28, 2016 at 4:18 PM

          You project all those players as gone (some will be gone, but not all of them.) … And who replaces them, exactly?

          Not many holes can be plugged right away with draft picks and UDFAs. The Skins had uncommon success in that regard last season, but it’s not something to count on consistently.

        • bangkokben - Apr 28, 2016 at 4:27 PM

          Next year would work but the Redskins will still need a starting C, a back up WR, and a starting FS; while (Riley, Garcon and DJax don’t count on next year’s cap — but their positions still need replacements). So you’ve created $11,750,000 of cap room to go with what you have in surplus for Wilkerson. That’s a good start provided that there is already 2017 starting center and free safety on the roster from 2016’s draft.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 28, 2016 at 5:30 PM

      Please stop. The Kam nonsense just started to die down.

  14. lezziemcdykerson - Apr 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    Just came from Draft town. Kind of bummed out we don’t have the individual team lounge tents like last time complete with bar seating, glass locker for Sean Taylor and flat screen to watch skins pick. The have a ferris wheel but everything else is blah. I’m supposed to be a seat filler on Saturday. This was a bummer. There were all kinds of freebies last time.

  15. lezziemcdykerson - Apr 28, 2016 at 10:39 PM

    Just got off the phone with Scot. He says you’re shockingly dumb! JOSH DOCTSON LETS GETTTT IIIITTTT!

  16. John - Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 PM

    Come on, Chris Jones in Round 2. Big dynamic DE/DT who has good hands, can stuff the run or rush the passer. Also a guy you can move around to take advantage of mismatches.

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