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Need to Know: Norman deal will force tough choices for Redskins in 2017

Apr 24, 2016, 4:47 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, April 24, four days before the NFL Draft.

Timeline

—The Redskins last played a game 105 days ago. It will be 141 days until they host the Steelers in their 2016 season opener.

Days until: 2016 NFL draft 4; Rookie minicamp 19; Redskins training camp starts 95

Hot topic

A look at a few more aspects of the Josh Norman signing:

—I think that the deal increases the likelihood that the Redskins will draft a wide receiver early. They had the 2017 cap room to be able to re-sign one or both of Pierre Garçon and DeSean Jackson. Now they may have to choose to let both of them go. It generally takes a season for a receiver to become productive. If both of their starters are going to be departing McCloughan may want to get a head start on finding their replacements.

—By making this deal the Redskins are gambling that they will be able to get Kirk Cousins under contract this year or at least prior to the start of the 2017 league year. If they need to franchise tag him again it will cost $24 million. With Norman set to carry a $20 million cap hit, that would mean that two players would be taking up 26 percent of a cap that should be around $165 million.

—No matter how the Cousins contract situation unfolds, the Redskins will have to make some tough choices in 2017. It will be very difficult to get Cousins, Jordan Reed, Junior Galette, the two receivers, and Chris Baker signed. It might have been hard before Norman signed but now it may be too much to ask. Of course, perhaps McCloughan never intended to keep all of them anyway. But it seems almost certain that some fan favorites will be heading elsewhere next year.

—I might do an article looking at this in a little more depth but I saw one NFL analyst compare how the Redskins are building their defense to the way that the Broncos did—from the outside in. The keys to Denver’s Super Bowl winning unit were edge rushers DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller and cornerbacks Chris Harris and Aqib Talib. Certainly, the Broncos had some strong players on the inside such as DT Maik Jackson and the Redskins don’t have anyone like that. But they have potential matches on the edges with Norman and Breeland at corner and edge rushers Ryan Kerrigan, Preston Smith, and Junior Galette.

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  1. ericstylezz - Apr 24, 2016 at 6:30 AM

    Pretty sure we’ll address WR in some fashion in the draft, shouldn’t be an issue. Garson shoulda been dealt this year anyway

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:37 AM

      Deal a 29 year old, $10 million per year WR2?

      Easier said than done.
      ~

      • austrianhttrfan - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:48 AM

        I don´t know…I think they will just extend him before the start of the season…Garcon is a guy Scot loves…so I think he is higher on him then he is on Djax….

        • colorofmyskinz - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:57 AM

          If we go with BIG WR, we don’t need Garcon. We would need DJax more for the speed element. Even if Scot high on Garcon. We are not getting $10M out of him.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:03 AM

          I completely disagree. Garcon made a couple of game winning TD grabs, and held on to some other balls while getting pulverized. Without Garcon, the Redskins would not have made the playoffs, he is a baller that can catch the ball in traffic way better than anyone on this team. You guys are nuts to suggest otherwise.

        • Trey Gregory - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:19 PM

          @Color: The thing is that you don’t have to chose between a tall receiver or a fast receiver. There are lengthy guys who are fast and can stretch the field. Maybe not technically as fast as Desean, but they can stretch the field. You’re telling me Brandon Marshal isn’t a deep threat?

          That’s been my issue with Desean all along. He’s not a complete receiver. He does one thing really weel, but what about everything else? For the money he’s getting we need a guy who can do more. Go across the middle, get jump balls, be a redzone threat, etc., etc.

          Desean 6’0 178lbs. Another issue I have is his durability. But if you guys love burners then look at Corey Coleman: 5’11, 194lbs, and 9 inch hands and ran a 4:37 40 at his pro day. He has more bulk to go after contested balls and is plenty fast. Desean ran a 4:35 in case you were wondering.

          I think Coleman has the potential to be an Antonio Brown type player. It doesn’t hurt his argument that he was, literally, the best WR in college last year.

          I would rather look at Josh Doctson or Michael Thomas. I’m just saying, if you guys like those deep threats, there’s a very good one in this class who would cost a fraction of what Desean costs and will still be on our team after Desean retires. He’s getting old guys.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:36 PM

          Let Garcon age another year and the work out a deal. It’ll most likely come cheaper to wait with an aging wide out.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:40 PM

          @Trey I agree Jackson’s durability significantly hurts his value. However, he is a speed guy with and without the pads. Not all players that run a low 4 in the 40 can do what he does. The point is he is an X factor that stretches the field. While, I’d love to find a younger cheaper version to Jackson; his ability to stretch defenses showed based on his return. While he didn’t log huge numbers Cousins performance sky rocket at the time of his return.

    • sidepull - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:08 AM

      As much as I think Garcon is a tremendous player, I would keep Djax. I think the Redskins can come up with a gritty,, tough guy WR to replace Garcon, but replacing D Jax big play ability, the speed, thats a tough one to replicate. He is a unique talent. See how they do this year. Maybe the decision will be clear at the end of the season and it will be a no brainer.

      • thirdistheworrd - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:43 PM

        Finally, someone who gets it: “maybe the decision will be clear at the end if the season and it will be a no-brainer”. We will be making the Frenchy, Djax, Swaggy, Gilette decision in 12 months, who knows what will happen between then and now– there’s no reason to get worked up about it before then. Just a waste of your time and emotions.

    • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 9:37 AM

      Dealt? For what? With whom?

      Like he simply could’ve been cashed out to whatever his real value is.

      Garcon costs this team NOTHING next year. If anything, he balls out and signs somewhere in Florida for a boatload of money and the Redskins get a comp pick for him in 2018.

  2. sidepull - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:13 AM

    Its a wild set of circumstances that we end up with Djax, Galette and Norman. Glad they did not spend all their money at the start of FA as in years past so they had the money to sign him. Earlier in FA I was laughing at the Giants spending spree thinking they are going to be making some tough decisions in the next couple years. Now I realize that we may lose home grown talent due to the salary cap restrictions and its not funny anymore. The reality is, even without Norman signing, this was still going to be true, we are going to lose a favorite player or two. Its just my PTSD rearing its ugly head from the Redskins history of awful FA signings. I need to reconcile that with the moniker “In Scot we trust”. It is going to be fun to watch Norman battle it out every game this year in burgundy and gold. After all I just want to watch great football. HTTR.

  3. colorofmyskinz - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:55 AM

    Agreed Rich. No way to keep both DJax and Garcon. Garcon is way over paid for his production. That is the one I see going. If we draft a BIG WR, like everyone is calling for, either Garcin takes a huge pay cut or will be gone.

    We need cousins and reed at all cost. Would be nice to get Gallette as well. That high drafted WR critical.

    I think we go DT/NT first, then WR, then Center, then S. These are our top needs. Hope we can get 3 of 4 starters here.

    The rest are DTs, RBs, Dbacks, and Linebackers.

    • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 10:19 AM

      Man, you have a real disconnect. Those needs are all needs but there is no line up as to when they come.

      Also, Garcon is not “way over paid for his production;” Norman IS. Garcon is in the final year of a contract that averaged $8,500,000 a year (14th among receivers) and his 2016 cap hit is $10,200,000 (also 14th among WRs). Since being a Redskin, Garcon has 297 receptions (15th over that span; 12th among WRs).

      Moving forward, the Redskins are likely to let him leave depending on his asking price. Then they may recoup a compensatory draft pick in 2018. But if Garcon continues to produce 75 receptions this year with half of them for 1st downs, it is possible the Redskins re-sign him but it would be a deal that considers his production and his age and not likely at the same level over the past fours seasons.

      • redskinscaio - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:05 AM

        Thank you for the facts. Garcon is a baller and the best receiver on the team. It would be ludicrous to let him go this year.

      • skinsgame - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:36 AM

        I didn’t think compensatory picks were given if the team didn’t draft the player.

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM

      It’s weird. I made almost the exact argument as this article on my twitter yesterday and now here’s an article about it so we can discuss.

      But the point I made was the Norman signing made WR a huge draft need because of 2017. Not anything this year. We have to clear up cap space to sign guys like Cousins, Reed, Galette, Baker, etc., etc., from somewhere. And we have two aging WRs taking up a healthy amount of cap. They’re probably both gone next year, but not this year.

      That has nothing to do with how much I like or dislike them, it just makes sense. Especially because of age and there will be no dead cap. So you take a young WR early this year, groom him, then next year he’s the #1 with Crowder as the #2. Of course we have the TEs to help as well. This won’t be as sexy a WR corps as we’ve had, but it’s probably necessarily. Garcon and Jackson can’t play forever.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 24, 2016 at 6:34 PM

        Few times we disagree my friend and this is one of them. I just don’t think adding Norman with his salary changes anything about WR for the draft. If you look at Scott’s history, draft high on a wide out is not his status quo. Maybe I’m wrong about it but my money is that D-line and OLB will be top priority in this draft. BPV still applies but WR is a weak draft year so I’m waging no WR until at least the 3rd round. We’ll see very soon!

        • Trey Gregory - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:25 PM

          Yeah I hear you. I also agreed with what you said earlier about how Seattle didn’t need flashy wide receivers to get to a Super Bowl (not that anyone can really disagree with that). But they did have an elite RB and Wilson was fantastic.

          I still very much want the defensive line to improve in this draft. That’s my biggest concern. My real point was that I think there’s a good chance Garcon and DJax will be gone in 2017 in order to pay for the other guys becoming free agents, especially Cousins and Reed. Because cap space just got a lot tighter. I may have over sold how much value I put on having a stud WR.

          So, if I’m right, were going to have to get someone for Cousins to pass to. Crowder seems like he will be a great #2 but we need a guy who can work the perimeter. I love Reed but I’m uncomfortable with the passing game being reliant on his ability to stay healthy.

          That doesn’t mean we can’t draft a guy in the later rounds and he works out. It also doesn’t mean that we can’t take a WR high in the 2017 draft. I’m just projecting that WR is going to become a pretty big need here soon.

          I think Josh Doctson and Corey Coleman will end up being good players. Maybe even special. But I would still rather take a DT/NT in the first. I just wouldn’t be upset if we took a guy like Michael Thomas in the 2nd.

        • Trey Gregory - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:32 PM

          I should specify that anyone could come back for the right price. If they will take less to stay on the team for any number of reasons then great. I just don’t think it would be wise to plan on that. I would assume each wants one last payday.

  4. garg8050 - Apr 24, 2016 at 7:55 AM

    If I had to guess, I would say Cousins, Reed, and one of the WR will be back in 2017. I think Baker will be looking to get paid; it’ll be his first, and probably only chance to get a big free agent deal. As for which WR is extended, it really depends upon what type of WR we draft this year and how the year plays out. I’m guessing one of the two WRs will “declare” their worth by their play this year. If McCloughan truly likes multiple d-linemen in this draft, I could see him going WR in round one, or even drop down a few spots, take a WR late in round 1, and then take a DL in round 2. I still see him trading back to acquire more picks, especially if we’re gonna lose a couple of players next offseason.

    • sidepull - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:04 AM

      If Knighton makes in NE you can just see the him lobbying for Baker….They like players like Baker in NE. Plays hard, good guy to have around. Would hate to lose him, but until we see who the replacement would be maybe it wont be so bad.

      • hotpicksblog - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:51 PM

        this speculation about which free agents will stay or go in 2017 is absurd. I know you want to be an expert and show us how smart you are…but why are you worried about the future when the 2016 season is not even here yet. This years moves are not even over and you have already planned out next years free agency….:LOL

    • colorofmyskinz - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:38 AM

      I honestly see Culliver gone the second he clears physical. That is a no brainier. Restructure Garcon. Cut Roberts and we are back to where we were prior to Norman.

      • Trey Gregory - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:31 PM

        And so then we would be think at CB all over again. What if Norman or Breeland go down? With Culliver, Norman and Breeland we have one of the better CB groups in the league. Without Culliver, we’re an injury away from a disaster.

        It’s not all about dollars and cents guys. Sometimes you have to pay guys. Especially while we’re waiting for enough solid drafts to happen so that the team is filled with talent under rookie contracts.

      • hotpicksblog - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:46 PM

        Culliver is not as great as he THINKS he is…however he is a good corner and while he is overpaid, I would not want to see him gone just to save a few million dollars in Cap space. Hey…didn’t you learn anything last season when DB’s were going down and getting injured week after week…

    • colorofmyskinz - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:43 AM

      When you add MCL to ACL for Culliver and take his age into consideration, he is no longer $8-12M. $4M at best.

    • COSkinsFan - Apr 24, 2016 at 9:26 AM

      Drafting a wr first is the most likely scenario I see as well. It usually takes time for them to develop and then we can see who we want to keep 11 or 88 or we could draft another we high next year too. If 11 could stay on the field he would be worth big money but not as it stands now. Trading back a few picks to get more seems like a good option depending who is on the board and who they they think they can get. Denver still needs a qb so maybe we could trade with them, if there’s still a qb there they like. There are always surprises. I read about a LT that has visited with 10 bottom first round teams, never seen him mocked to any of them. Its nice to know we have an ultra competent GM. The more picks he has, the better off we will be.

      • hail74 - Apr 24, 2016 at 10:37 AM

        Your right about surprises however I would think if a team were trade up for a qb it would be to leap frog the jets, who draft right ahead of us. The teams below us aren’t in need of one.

  5. kenlinkins - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:17 AM

    Just when you think you have the Redskins figured out they go and do something right out of left field. For better or worst the Redskins are now married to Norman at CB at top money. This was the first time that the new GM went after a player guns blazing or was it the President / Owner? Either way I do not see a big problem. The Redskins need to get faster / younger with less “dings” (injury) by using the draft. The so called tuff choices would be required anyway and most on that list have either played below the new asking price or have proved that they will miss time of the field. That is where the draft comes in. The fans find new favorites if the GM can find Impact players and play makers. Teams get 4 years of cheap labor out of rookie draft picks. Finding guys like Norman (a 5th round pick) and getting 2 to 3 years of starting out of them at under a $1 million or $2 a year is the way to go. If you keep drafting well you find your team in the play offs year after year and still have money to sign your better players, (maybe not everyone,) and maybe hired gun once in a while. but you can keep your core solid and stay in the hunt for Super Bowls. I just hope the Redskins picked the correct hired gun at the correct time. Time will tell.

  6. John - Apr 24, 2016 at 8:25 AM

    Washington has a history of paying high FA and not working out. Norman is top 5 cornerback. If this doesn’t work out for Washington, I want his job. I wouldn’t of made the signing.

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:19 AM

      Relax. The entire NFL has a history of paying free agents big dollars and it not working out. But there are big differences between this signing and some of Washington’s past signings. His age being the most obvious.

  7. COSkinsFan - Apr 24, 2016 at 9:51 AM

    The only one’s on the list I see as guys we must resign are Cousins and Reed. I like signing Norman but the major concern I had was how much it raises Cousins price. If we’ll pay a cb with basically one good year that much then how much should Cousins get. Both recievers will probably want to be overpaid. Garcon has been for years and djax isn’t durable. Hopefully Preston will make Gallette expendable. I would love to keep Baker but age may be an issue as far as a big contract goes. We can still get rid of guys like Roberts and cut or renegotiate riley and culliver. They are too expensive to be backups. Lauvao and Lich might also be expendable after the draft or with the development of others.

  8. John - Apr 24, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    Garcon has lost a step but make the tough catches over the middle. Jackson is not durable enough to get the ball in traffic on a regular basis, he’ll get killed. Jackson is however the best deep threat out there and does not show signs of slowing down.
    Garcon has said on many occasions that he is not into taking a pay cut and that he has no problem walking, when the time comes. Jackson could be resigned with a lower base but more years.

    The team still has holes on both lines and in other areas. Based on the assumption that Garcon is 99% gone, I say move back, starting in round 1 and get an early 2 or perhaps 2, 2nd rounders and get say Cody White hair of KS and Chris Jones of MS and one a young WR, say Baldwin or Thomas. A center can be had in round 3 -4. Then later draft another Jarrett and other depth.

  9. bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM

    Signing Norman to that contract is SOOO risky. Apparently the team didn’t learn anything from signing Culliver and seeing him tear up his knee in practice in the first year of his big contract, that they doubled-down (almost literally) on Norman. Knock on wood for Norman, but if he injures his knee similarly on Thanksgiving Day this franchise might be right back where it was with the Mara salary cap penalty and the Griffin knee injury.

    Doubled-down for what? I’ve been rather bullish on the Redskins chances this season but how many wins does a 100% dial-in healthy Norman really give the Redskins? Does it turn them from 6-10 to 9-7 and a wild card team? Or maybe it pushes them from 9-7 to 11-5? But even now where do they rank in the NFC? Ahead of Green Bay, Arizona, Carolina, Seattle? Dallas, New York, Minnesota?

    I’ve got them fifth. Last year they finished basically 6th. That’s a lot of risk for minimal reward.

    • redskinscaio - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:10 AM

      A shutdown corner allows the defensive coordinator to blitz on almost every possession with no safety help over the top. A shutdown corner in a pass-heavy league is like finding oil in your backyard. :)

      I don’t know how Scott did it, but getting Norman to sign in Washington and not somewhere else shows how great of a GM Scott really is. I’m so happy and excited by this signing.

      Now, I’m hoping the Skins pick a left guard or center with their first pick of the draft. Ryan Kelly from Alabama will do very nicely at center. He is projected by many as the best center in the draft and a top 20 overall talent.

      • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:34 AM

        We need Norman to ball out or else we’ll will be reading from the same posters how overpaid he is. I hope he does but he’s not the definition of a shut down corner. He doesn’t take away the top receiver of team and force them to throw to the other side of the field. He stays on his side of the field plays zone well (cover three in particular, which is high school) and does a good job in man. Carolina ran many trap zones last year; confusing the QB a the snap of the ball, getting good pressure, and forcing timely turnovers. Hopefully the Redskins adopt this scheme but also have the horses to apply pressure.

      • mattphillipsdc - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:39 PM

        Lets hope they blitz half the time. Last year for most of the season we were the lowest blitzing team averaging only 19% blitzing. Even when we don’t blitz we should show it more too. We were a much better team when were aggressive on both sides of the ball. There is no excuse for us not to be much more aggressive, unless we have a rash of injuries to key players like last year.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 24, 2016 at 2:30 PM

        Norman is a zone corner (albeit, a very good one).

        Carolina doesn’t blitz much, they get pressure with their defensive line.

        https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/11/sig-stats-team-blitzing/
        ~

  10. mtskins - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:17 AM

    Sounds like some players could hit the road some next year that the fans won’t be happy to see leave. I guess I look at it as a good problem to have. A few years ago not sure there were many players on the roster that we were sure we wanted to keep around. As little as two years ago there were fans calling for the team to let an injury prone Reed walk and calling for us to trade Cousins. Nice to see some players develop and some FA signings actually work. I think part of Scot M’s early success is due to getting production from players drafted before he was ever in charge of the roster.

  11. oaklandred - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    DeSean is a must keep, he’s a transcendently talented player and you can see how Cousins’ stats went up on his return.

    Cousins, Reed and Galette aren’t going anywhere either.

    Garcon is outstanding, he brings a lot to the team, but I think this year will tell us where things are going with him.

    • hotpicksblog - Apr 25, 2016 at 12:09 AM

      Garcon is a lot like Anquan Boldin. He could play and be effective until 34 or 35 because he is a tough over the middle receiver with attitude. It is possible that they could keep Pierre if they want to, however Jackson is not a great team player, he makes mistakes in ball handling, is not tough, and his whole game is based on speed….which he loses several times per season when he is injured…and he IS injured often.

      • Trey Gregory - Apr 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM

        That’s basically exactly how I see Jackson. But also he doesn’t do as much.

        He’s tremendously talented at what he does do. But he’s good for about 3 receptions a game. Big home run plays and all; but what about first downs? The Redzone? Crossing the middle? Jump balls? Etc. etc. he’s more of a one trick pony than people like to admit. We have to create special plays to get him the balls because he can’t succede in normal routs. It’s either a deep ball or a screen, which running backs can do. I would rather have a guy like Brandon Marshall or A.J. green than Desean Jackson.

        I don’t know for sure that he’s bad for the locker room, but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t help it. And there isn’t a single thing about him that seems like a player Scot McCloughan would want.

        I understand his presence opens up the offense without him touching the ball. But he’s not the only guy in the NFL who does that. We can get a younger/cheaper version who is hopefully more durable and is a better leader.

        And I’m being serious here. This isn’t a rhetorical question. What do you guys see about him that’s so much better than a guy like Mike Wallace? What does Desean do that Wallace can’t? Because most NFL fans are way down on Wallace and I don’t see a huge separation between the two.

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:56 AM

      With what cap space? You’re on planet delusional right now if you think we can afford to resign Galette, Reed, Cousins, Garcon, DJax, and Baker after this Norman contract. Just delusional.

      Galette and Cousins alone would take up a huge portion of the cap. They play the two most expensive positions. The aging, and expensive, WRs are going to be the odd men out unless they take a pretty big pay cut. And why would they do that? It’s their last chance to cash in. Miami will give DJax 10 mil a year to go run wind sprints up and down their sideline. Come on guys. Take the fan goggles off and see reality.

      It’s not even a bad thing. Crowder is a good young receiver. Draft him a partner who can work the perimeter, be the #1, and we’re good. We will have gotten younger and cheaper at a position that was going to need that soon anyway.

  12. rtcwon - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:28 AM

    Relax. There is plenty of cap space to sign Kirk & Reed to max deals, tag Galette and pay the old guys Baker, Garcon & DJax what they’re worth, if needed.

    I’m sure they are counting on at least one youngster to step up and replace one of those three. But to me, Smith is still a long way off from being better than Galette so the plan, for now, has to be using the tag on him.

    • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:42 AM

      There are no “max” deals in the NFL. But let’s take your hypothetical. Cousins for $20M, Reed for $10M, Galette taged for $15M = $45M out of a possible $30M ($50M – Norman’s $20M) and even though you made $15M in cuts to get them under the cap, now you need to make more cuts for your remaining three.

  13. dave - Apr 24, 2016 at 12:15 PM

    Dont matter cowboys gonna beat the deadskins.

  14. skinsgame - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    Paea, Roberts, Riley, add up to over $11 million. I doubt any of those 3 will be around next year. Hall is another one that could be on the block as well and that would be another $4.5 million. Hitting draft picks is still the key to everything.

    • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM

      Riley’s not under contract for next year so you can’t count his savings. You can however lump Hall with Paea and Roberts. Paea would have to continue to play poorly to be considered a cap casualty as you’re only saving $3.3 million of his cap hit. Which may get you another Kendall Reyes which of course neutralizes the savings. Can’t draft every need this year and next while creating additional needs, can we?

  15. mcwest1 - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:31 PM

    Teams don’t get compensatory consideration for losing a player 30 years old +. Garcon will be 30 years old on Aug. 08, 2016. So if the Skins lose Garcon in 2017, they won’t be getting a comp pick for him.

  16. hoantran - Apr 24, 2016 at 1:33 PM

    i hear this year’s draft is loaded with DTs….. maybe it’ll be a good time to complete the “outside in” philosphy.^^*

    i can’t imagine Garcon an DJ taking pay cuts…… i will miss either one if they leave.

  17. Steve - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:26 PM

    I really hope they realize that none of their receivers give them the deep threat like DeSean Jackson. If they release a WR it should be Garcon!!! They NEED Jackson!!!! They need to re-sign DeSean Jackson to a long term contract.

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:23 AM

      Desean Jackson is not the only deep threat WR in the NFL. There’s other guys who are taller, built thicker/heavier, more durable, and can do a lot more than Desean who are also deep threats. I think the idea would be to get a guy like that early in this draft.

  18. redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    “I think that the deal increases the likelihood that the Redskins will draft a wide receiver early. They had the 2017 cap room to be able to re-sign one or both of Pierre Garçon and DeSean Jackson. Now they may have to choose to let both of them go. It generally takes a season for a receiver to become productive. If both of their starters are going to be departing McCloughan may want to get a head start on finding their replacements.’

    If it happens it WON”T be the first pick. Did Seattle need to draft early for WRs after their recent run in great seasons? I’m not suggesting this is a fixed blue print but WR is not a requirement to maintaina a very good team. New England didn’t need to go that route either. The focus needs to be along the line unless Ezekiel Elliott drops down. He’d be better than in WR to draft this year.

    • Steve G - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:45 PM

      They can’t afford to release Jackson. He’s their fastest and best deep threat receiver they have. They should release Garcon and re-sign Jackson to a long term deal.

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 2:12 AM

      I’m all about building the lines. Truly. But I also think receivers are especially important when you have a developing QB.

      What I’m about to ask you all depends on who’s available, and when. But what round would you be comfortable drafting a receiver? Let’s assume they go DLine in the first. And there’s multiple guys ranked around the same, as far as BPA goes, when we pick in the later rounds. What’s the earliest you’re comfortable taking a receiver?

  19. renhoekk2 - Apr 24, 2016 at 3:37 PM

    Jordan Reed is the only must sign on that list, other than Cousins. It’s possible that they pickup up 2 DL, an Edge rusher and a WR in the draft. I can see maybe keeping one of the two WR on a 2-3 year deal. Baker will be 30 in Oct next year. He’s good but not irreplaceable. He was the best player on a bad DL. If he wants big money let him walk. If Smith and Kerrigan have good seasons and stay healthy Galette is not a MUST sign either. Especially if they draft an Edge player, and I think they will. If they can win the division again, maybe they start getting the FA discount that some of the better teams get because players are willing to take less money to play there.

    • hotpicksblog - Apr 24, 2016 at 11:24 PM

      EDGE RUSHER? You think the Skins will draft an EDGE RUSHER??? REALLY?????

      Where will he play? He can’t have Kerrigans job……he can’t take Preston Smith’s job…..and he isn’t likely to have a chance to start if Junior Galette has his way…..No edge rushers will be taken unless it is a late round pick who is a special teams demon…otherwise it is a wasted pick.

      • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 2:06 AM

        That’s just a short sighted and incorrect post. The draft is about the future, not the upcoming season. Junior Galette, Ryan Kerrigan, and Preston Smith will most likely not all three be our OLBs for the next 3 years. Especially since Galette could be gone as soon as next year. You never know when injuries will happen or what. You have to plan for the future. One or two injuries and a pre comceived strength is a weakness (like TE last year).

        Then there’s certain positions significantly more valuable than others. Edge rushers (OLBs in our case) are very high on that list. Maybe only second to QBs. Teams should always have young edge rusher they’re developing.

        Galette was an undrafted free agent the Saints developed into one of the better pass rushers in the league. We need to continue to do the same. The Broncos had Von a Miller and Ware yet still drafted Shayne Ray in the first round last year. Guess that was stupid too.

        Teams should always have young QBs, Edge rushers, CBs and offensive tackles they’re developing these guys regardless of the current roster.

        • renhoekk2 - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:47 AM

          Thank You.

          Galette is a FA after the season. If he comes back healthy he will want a big contract. If Smith and Kerrigan play well and stay healthy there is not a definitive need to resign Galette. Not to mention he will be 29 and it will be his last chance to “cash-in” as an NFL player. There will be no discount deal from him this time if he plays well. He will want to get paid. The most expensive positions in football are QB, LT, Edge Rusher and CB. Maybe add WR in there as well. So smart teams are always drafting for those positions. Most teams want to mimic GB’s philosophy, go look at their recent draft history. Every draft they are selecting DB, WR, OLB. Sometimes more than one. They also took an OT 6 drafts in a row, again sometimes more than one. There are certain positions you don’t want to “Have To” sign a FA because of the cost. GB figured that out a while ago.

        • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:49 AM

          I’m with you 100%

  20. Michael alvarez - Apr 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM

    Ok so I see us letting go of garçon and signing d jax for a 3 year contract, d jax loves playing for the redskins especially when we play the Eagles twice a year, I see d jax getting paid but not breaking the bank… what I really hope we do is we trade back…

    If we trade back from the first round and grab a 2nd and 3rd round this year and maybe a pick next year, we can have 4 picks just in the first 3 rounds and we can get a C and DT in the 2nd, depending on who we trade for the picks, we either go C first or DT, if we can get and early 2nd round pick then I see us going for a DT and then choosing a C with our original pic, the DT in the 2nd our pretty much all on the same level, and then pick up a wr in the 3rd and safety in the 3rd as well, we can still pick up a wr in next years draft as well, we have our wr now….

    • Trey Gregory - Apr 25, 2016 at 11:30 AM

      I think DJax just liked to beat Chip Kelly. Not the Eagles. So that’s gone.

      And the whole point of the article was there may not be a choice. There’s a limited number of cap dollars. We already have a big portion of that spent on guys like Kerrigan, Williams, and now Norman. Plus we’re going to have to pay Cousins and Reed a lot of money. Maybe Junior Galette and Chris Baker. There simply may not be enough money to keep either receiver. That’s the point. Signing Norman may have sealed Garcon and DJax’s fate. They’re getting old and they’re expensive. We’re not going to let Reed walk to keep Jackson.

      It has nothing to do with how good they are or how much we love them. But a WR on a rookie contract costs significantly less than DJax even if he takes a hometown discount (and I doubt he would do that btw).

      So the point was that someone isn’t going to get resigned. If not Jackson then who do you suggest.

  21. hotpicksblog - Apr 25, 2016 at 12:03 AM

    there is no doubt that the Skins will draft a wide receiver and it won’t be a smurf……this is as obvious a need as the nose on your face. Scott M doesn’t waste a lot of time or effort and I am pretty sure he is aware that Garcon and Jackson are free agents next season. I think most of us will be happy with the draft picks……but I know some of you non stop complainers will find fault…..

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