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Redskins mock draft, v. 3.0

Apr 19, 2016, 11:05 AM EDT

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  1. bangkokben - Apr 19, 2016 at 12:38 PM

    Ugh. Not only a mock draft but a slide show. You’re killing me man. Having said all that. I dutifully clicked and checked it out. Would be a good haul.

  2. kenlinkins - Apr 19, 2016 at 1:34 PM

    Todays Mock, I trade back twice in round one and once in round 4:

    1- 30 (Car) RB Elliott Ohio State (starter day one)
    2-22 C Kelly Ala (Starter in 2016)
    2-25 (SEA) DT Jones Miss St (Will play 1/3 of D snaps in 2016)
    2-31 (Car) SS Joseph West Va (Sub packages in 2016)
    3-25 (GB) TE Vanett Ohio State (Sub packages in 2016)
    4-22 CB White (Ga Tech) (will make 53 man roster)
    4-27 (GB) ILB White (AZ) (Will make 53 man roster, Specials teams)
    5-19 WR Peake (Clem) (Needs a year, has a year)
    5-25 (Phil) CB Seymour USC (Speical teams)
    6-!2 FS Powell (Ohio State) PS, but a very good FS in the making)
    7-11 CB Worley (West Va) (PS)
    7-29 DE Thompson (Syr) (PS)
    The better known DT with value were not there when I picked but I like the Top 5 as they all can play in 2016 with very little coaching required. There are a few projects here but about 1/2 will pay off in 2017.
    Feel free to take shots.

    • James McFullan - Apr 19, 2016 at 3:46 PM

      Elliot will be gone by the top 10, Ryan Kelly will be gone in the first round and most likely so will Jones.

      • kenlinkins - Apr 19, 2016 at 4:20 PM

        I was shocked to see Elliot there after trading back twice and I agree Kelly and Jones should be gone also, but this Draft simulator had them all there ( which is why I posted this one and not some of the others I did). The point is that we just do not know who might be sitting there when the Redskins pick.

  3. cmehustle - Apr 19, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Enjoyed the mock. A lot of DBs which I think we need. I would be happy if we went all defense, I think we have neglected this area for a long time, too long.

  4. kenlinkins - Apr 19, 2016 at 4:27 PM

    Rich: If a team drafts a non-prime position (ILB, C, G, RB, TE, DT, SS) in the first round, does that help to lower the Cap Cost in the long term or does paying them under the new CBA the first four years off set the saving a team might see when they become free agents or have to use the Tag to keep them?

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM

      A difference only comes into play if the fifth-year option is invoked. Since the transition tag amount (top 10 drafted players) or top 15 average (rest of first round) is higher for a QB, WR, etc., the option salary is higher. And a higher option salary could potentially increase the franchise tag amount since that is 120% of the player’s salary if that’s higher.

      But once a player becomes a free agent it doesn’t matter where he was drafted. A free agent C will be compared to other C’s on the market and will be paid accordingly no matter when he was drafted. So will a free agent WR.

      Not sure if that answers your question but there you go.

    • bangkokben - Apr 20, 2016 at 7:46 AM

      Ken, I don’t see how it does. Scherff is going to count $4.8M against the cap this year and $5.77M next year as a RG. Leonard Williams would’ve cost the same as a 34DE. Scherff would have the 5th highest cap hit this year and 6th next year of all RGs even though he was drafted as RT. Williams at that salary would be 13th and then 11th. At the end of the contract top talent is going to get top dollar which is considerably more but JJ Watt does make more than Marshall Yanda even though both make a ton.

      • John - Apr 20, 2016 at 10:19 PM

        He’s a natural guard, they thought they would initially play at tackle because Moses looked lost as a rookie and Polumbus and Compton were not the answer. While he played tackle at Iowa, most thought his best spot would be guard. So, when Moses stepped up and claimed the right tackle spot, Sherff was moved to guard, where he belongs.

        • bangkokben - Apr 21, 2016 at 8:42 AM

          The Scherff history and pundit predictions are well known. Mark this for the pundits as they got it right. (Aren’t they supposed to?) The context of me making the distinction is where his salary ranks per position in answer to Ken’s question. Scherff’s 2016 cap hit is the 5th highest of any RG but would be 12th highest for RT. In 2017 it would actually be 4th at RG and 9th at RT. This is not the “savings” Ken had in mind, I think. Basically the team is paying top dollar at a position(s) that is justifiably not picked in the top ten HISTORICALLY.

        • Rich Tandler - Apr 21, 2016 at 9:25 AM

          Wait until his fifth-year option. That will be worth about $11 million, a tough number for a guard.

        • bangkokben - Apr 21, 2016 at 9:43 AM

          Can’t see them picking that up — just resigning him — but who knows what the cap will be in four years. Nonetheless, I think it’s safe to say that Scherff will always be one of the highest paid at his position.

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 19, 2016 at 5:47 PM

    Question: If the goal is to get younger and faster on the D.L., is just one pick in the draft enough, Rich?

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 20, 2016 at 4:47 AM

      A team won’t necessarily get everything in wants in one draft.

      But there were two in this one. Archives

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