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CSN: Redskins’ McCloughan knows who he wants to draft at No. 21

Apr 12, 2016, 10:15 AM EDT


Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has a color coding system for classifying players and he knows who he wants to draft with the No. 21 pick. Tandler has the details on

  1. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 12, 2016 at 11:07 AM

    Code Burgundy and Gold!

  2. Mr.moneylover - Apr 12, 2016 at 11:43 AM

    Of course he knows who will fit they system… He’s building a bully…I’m hoping we pick Chris Jones in the second round tho

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM

      I feel like we will only get Chris Jones if we pick him in the 1st, and I have to wonder if McGlue will be sold on his desire to play football.

      What if Darron Lee (LB from OSU) is still on the board at 21?

  3. bangkokben - Apr 12, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Doesn’t sound like a wide receiver.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 12, 2016 at 2:02 PM

      Sure it could be. Elsewhere in the interview McC talked about drafting Crowder because he met all of those criteria.

      • bangkokben - Apr 12, 2016 at 2:48 PM

        Sure, a 4th rounder does meet all the criteria, I suppose. A WR taken in the 1st round kind of oozes “flash” and somewhat suggests eventual #1 receiver. That to me doesn’t sound like “red chip.”. Then again, when it comes to the draft, I usually get all things wrong – except Jordan Reed. I did see the Redskins drafting a TE there that year, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 12, 2016 at 5:11 PM

          I don’t know about that….neither Doctson nor Treadwell* have the speed to be a number 1 wideout, but each could be solid in moving the chains + the red zone.

          * Treadwell’s lack of speed does concern me, though. I don’t know what he’ll produce in the NFL. But I feel Doctson is a solid red chip.

        • bangkokben - Apr 13, 2016 at 4:11 PM

          I do think both of those guys are red chippers because of the speed. However, historically, drafting a WR in the first is putting great expectations on the young man and to me it seems like a waste of a pick for a #2WR. Then again, GM.SM doesn’t seem to care about that by evidence of last year’s pick.

  4. Robert zaragoza - Apr 12, 2016 at 1:04 PM

    I would say take a chance at jalen smith in the 2 round if he still there

  5. James McFullan - Apr 12, 2016 at 2:21 PM

    I’m hoping for Josh Doctson/Andrew Billings/Michael Thomas in the first round, then Vernon Butler/Keanu Neal in the second round, and then Nick Martin in the third round

  6. John - Apr 12, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    Chris Jones is rated #70 overall or there about. Some of the most recent mocks on have him in the 15 to 25 range. Has the ability but plays high and questional motivation.

    Sounds Robert at Ole Miss. Robert played pretty good in those Alabama games, so he plays well against tough opponents.

    It would be nice to get those 2 in the first and second rounds and a center in the 3rd.

    • bangkokben - Apr 12, 2016 at 5:02 PM

      “rated #70 overall…”

      By whom? What criteria? Does it take into consideration system? Does he have a medical issue? Drug/character issue? Of the 69 guys ahead of him, how many have medical, drug, or character issues that would take them off the board? Robert Griffin the Third was the second highest player on just about everyone’s board. Just sayin’.

      • John - Apr 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM

        By whom? By what? By most of the big boards out there. Duh!

        • skinsgame - Apr 12, 2016 at 11:49 PM

          Do “most of the big boards” run NFL teams? Or do they setup mock drafts in between rounds of Dungeons & Dragons?

        • John - Apr 13, 2016 at 2:24 AM

          Skinsgame, probably a little of both.

          Bangkok Ben, Most project him late 2nd, early 3rd and in a deep class of DLinemen, ranked 8th overall among 3-4 DE prospects.

        • bangkokben - Apr 13, 2016 at 4:09 PM

          So your buying that irregardless of the UTTTER failure these big boards constantly produce? Still buying that when Griffin was unanimously second in 2012? Media big boards are B.S. — especially if you’re using them for guidance as to whether a 34DE/DT will be available at #21 or #53. You probably follow the farmer’s almanac as well. It has about the same track record as Mel Kiper’s big board.

      • skinsgame - Apr 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM

        You’re missing his point, John, and it’s totally valid.

        • John - Apr 13, 2016 at 6:35 PM

          It only takes on GM to like a player and want him and to draft him regardless of draft position.

  7. kenlinkins - Apr 12, 2016 at 5:44 PM

    Rich: IMO you may have called it with the first time you talk about the Redskins pick, I think you said, WR Laquon Treadwell, out of Old Miss. who in IMO is a top 15 talent who would be a real value pick if he drops to number 21. His slow 40 time at the combine has many down grading him but I would counter with some one like Jerry Rice who also was just “a football player” after posting 4.6 in the 40 yard dash. In watching his tape (and I admit I did not until I saw your post) I saw him do a lot of things very well. That’s not to say he is totally NFL ready, he is not, but IMO he will become a number WR in the NFL before the 2018 season starts. My first pick was OG Cody Whitehair Kansas State who seems to have fallen into the 2nd round or later.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 12, 2016 at 6:33 PM

      I don’t agree with the opinion that this team will draft any wide out in the 1st round. Not this year’s receiving class for one, and two the team does not have the roster at a place where they can select a position that really would not be needed until next season. If Treadwell is BPA then I’d rather they trade back than choose what really would be a luxury pick for 2016. There should be some real promising players at far bigger need positions on the defensive side and especially along the line. I think Ryan Kelly would be the only exception to not choosing a defensive player at 21.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Apr 12, 2016 at 10:18 PM

        Can WR really wait until next year though? I’m assuming the thinking here is that you’re weighing the expiration of Garcon and Jackson’s contract. That’s not all that needs to be considered, what did our team look like when DJax went down? I believe the year before that (it was recent at least, can’t place the year) Garcon missed some time and we weren’t the same team. We’re one injury away from starting Ryan “I almost caught it but then I slipped” Grant and Crowder as1 & 3. Not to beat a dead horse but think of the Fred Davis situation. I really don’t know what the plan was with that, I guess we thought we were going to give him an extension but then he got in trouble. Then we HAD to draft a TE because all we had was No Hands Niles and Logan. We got lucky with Reed that could’ve been a disaster especially if Niles didn’t improve. Even still injuries decimate that position on a, seemingly, regular basis. We ended with a linemen for a TE. Center is a need I agree but, we got by without a perennial starter last year. Center can be address later in the draft but if, by your own admission, the talent pool at receiver is shallow can we sit on the clock and hope to find an WR gem later? I’d like to get JD at least one of the top tier WRs in this draft, if one slides to the second, I’m fine with that. A draft this deep in defensive talent we’ll surely be able to land some later round contributors for defense and special teams.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 13, 2016 at 7:26 AM

          Well wall both know that no GM is going to draft according to upcoming season injury scenarios at any position. The points you made about those injuries were unfortunate and certainly presented challenges during the season. However, this scenario can occur at other positions as well. Take your scenario and try to apply that to the current D-line or CBs and I think there is an even uglier picture of game scenarios than even a Grant and Crowder as starters. Also, I think Crowder will continue to become a better player where he can help carry the team better if the team does run into more injuries from the starters. I just haven’t found anything from the WRs in this draft to risk drafting ahead of those other players. If there was a Randy Moss like player then I’d agree. If the team does forgo the D line at the first pick then I’d understand but would rather see a guy like Willie Jackson or Mackensie Alexander at CB if either was to become available. Honestly, I’d rather have Derrick Henry than any of the receivers. I’m just not excited about the WRs at all in this draft class.

  8. hail74 - Apr 12, 2016 at 5:56 PM

    “Tenacious leader”, ” very dedicated”, “plug and play rookie starter who will have a 10 year career”, “has pro bowl potential and should start day one” ” intelligent and mentally tough”. I know he’s not a popular choice but these are some quotes from a few scouts on Ryan Kelly, a guy I’d love to have on our team.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 12, 2016 at 6:37 PM

      That’s a real possibility but his value seems to be up around the league so Kelly may not be who Scot is referring to since he seemed to really expect this player to be on the board by 21. Of course Kelly could be talked up more by the media than among the decision makers receiving pay checks by the NFL.

    • John - Apr 13, 2016 at 2:31 AM

      Not in round 1. A WR, a RB, a CB, a DLineman or OT but not a center, regardless how good he may be. Even if we miss out on him, there are solid center prospects available (MSU, USC, Mizzou) that should be available in round 3 or 4. Remember, Jeff Bostic was either a late pick or undrafted free agent from Clemson.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 13, 2016 at 6:59 AM

        It’s still BPA for this draft so round 1 is very possible for Kelly when you are discussing the 21st pick. All this depends on the momentum of the draft from the first 20 picks. Kelly is probably a better player at center than any player at WR, RB, or Safety by time the 21th pick becomes available. I still think a player along the D line or CB will be where Scot lands. Bostic spent most his career fighting from being supplanted and was never a perennial elite at his position that many think Kelly is capable of becoming. Also, just because Bostic was a late pick doesn’t mean Kelly is not a viable choice in the 1st when he is clearly at least the “Red” chip player if not “Blue” chip player that Scot was discussing.

        • John - Apr 13, 2016 at 11:44 AM

          Yeah, they did bring in Rick Donnelly from Pittsburgh and for a short time, they tried Russ Grimm at center to get someone bigger to face the Jim Burts and Michael Carters after the Giants pass rush was so strong in 1986. After that failed experiment, Bistic was back in the lineup, starting in the Super Bowl against the Broncos and from then to his retirement. Bostic was also a pro bowler/all pro early on.

  9. goback2rfk - Apr 12, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    I will be at the Cleveland game. You can best believe that sh|t. I hope the Browns are early in the schedule so we can get a shot at Rg3andOut before he goes on IR again.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Apr 13, 2016 at 7:02 AM

      That’s a punk move expecting an NFL player will get injured. How’d like if someone wished the same for you whe doing your job? You can root against him all you want but you fans that always want or expecting him hurt are not real fans of the game.

    • Mr.moneylover - Apr 13, 2016 at 10:02 AM

      Why u mad bro???…be happy for the kid man…

  10. Mr.moneylover - Apr 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Well at least he gave us a hint a lil bit on who he want…I think its C Ryan Kelly from Alabama …he’s smart very physical and is all about team he fit the redskins memo he’s capable of bein a starter day 1 to btw Archives

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