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Need to Know: Can the Redskins save cap room using post June 1 cuts?

Mar 23, 2016, 4:59 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Wednesday, March 23, 36 days before the NFL Draft.

I’m changing around the Need to Know format a bit. There may be some more tweaks in the coming days and weeks; your comments are welcome.

Timeline

—The Redskins last played a game 73 days ago. It will be about 172 days until they play another one.

Days until: Redskins offseason workouts start 26; 2016 NFL draft 36; Redskins training camp starts 127

Hot topic

I was on the radio in Cleveland yesterday and the topic, of course, was Robert Griffin III. The host asked me to do a word association with the phrase “RG3 to the Browns”. My answer was that it would be a mistake for both of them.

From the Browns’ perspective, they won’t be able to keep Griffin happy, especially if they plan on drafting a quarterback with the No. 2 pick next month. Josh McCown is already there to serve as the placeholder until the rookie is ready. What would his role be?

From Griffin’s perspective, aside from the potential logjam at quarterback, he needs to consider that Cleveland is not a very talented team. They lost two of their best offensive linemen, C Alex Mack and T Mitchell Schwartz, in free agency. They don’t have much of a rushing attack. It will be hard enough for him to succeed under ideal conditions and the Browns are far from ideal.

Update: Looks like this might happen. We’ll see if it works out.

Fan question of the day

Today’s question is from Oswizard in the Real Redskins comment section.

source:

Well, not really. If they cut Andre Roberts now they would save his $4 million salary but they would incur a 2016 dead cap charge of $2 million for the prorated portion of his signing bonus. That would lead to net cap savings of $2 million.

If they wait until after June 1 (or release him now with a post-June 1 designation) they would have only $1 million in 2016 dead cap to account for so they would see savings this year of $3 million.

However, that $1 million doesn’t just go away. It would be charged as dead cap in 2017, giving the Redskins a million bucks less to spend next year.

So, they don’t really save anything, the account just shifts some of the money charged from one year to another. If it was a large amount of money and/or the Redskins were strapped for cap space it might be a good idea. But in this case it would be better to just account for all of the money this year and start of 2017 with the books as clean as possible.

Stat of the day

71—The number of mixed extra points in the NFL last year after the snap was moved back from the two yard line to the 15. That is more missed extra points than in the previous seven seasons combined.

On Tuesday the NFL owners voted to make the rule, which was being tried out last year, permanent.

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  1. rlundy1123 - Mar 23, 2016 at 7:30 AM

    I’m not sure that I understand why they hold onto Andre Roberts…..would they be required to offer an injury settlement if they cut him now?

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 23, 2016 at 9:03 AM

      I guess they’re just in no hurry to do anything now.

      Maybe (as with RGIII) they’re waiting to see if they can somehow get a draft pick out of someone. (As with RGIII, I doubt it.)
      ~

      • Chad - Mar 23, 2016 at 3:52 PM

        Hes hurt, cannot cut a hurt player. Soon as he’s declared fit. Then we will see the redskins interested. Also, just because he’s on the team during preseason doesn’t mean he will be here. We need 90 players for this team, getting cut down to 53. Let him stay till hes not needed.

    • weneedlinemen42 - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:10 AM

      I don’t think he can be cut until he is declared fit, and negotiating an injury settlement would be extremely difficult in the case of a veteran player on a multi-millon dollar free agent contract.

      The only instance I could see anything happening quickly was if Roberts thought he would get signed by another team on similar or better terms. Given that he’s injured and his stock has been devalued through his poor play since he last hit free agency he has every incentive to stay here for as long as he can.

      • rlundy1123 - Mar 23, 2016 at 11:45 AM

        Got it!

        I knew he had been injured, but I had it in my head that he was fully recovered already.

  2. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Mary Kay Cabot‎@MaryKayCabot

    Bruce Arians gem on RG3: “For me right now, it would have to be going back and looking in his eyes and finding out, are the scars too deep?
    ==================

    I’d put the bong down and check the scars in his knees, Bruce.
    ~

    • weneedlinemen42 - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:24 AM

      I don’t think the knees are problem. Last year I got the distinct impression that he was suffering from David Carr syndrome.

      That pre-season game against the Lions where Gruden set Griffen up to fail by installing a human turnstyle, Willie Smith, at left tackle made me worry for Griffin’s future.

      It wasn’t that he struggled to get the offense moving. It would have been impossible for anyone to do anything with the number of unblocked rushers he saw in those first few plays. What worried me is that after a few hits Griffin lost all trust in his blocking and started trying to improvise.

      I’m just not sure he is capable of trusting an o-line anymore. It could take him years in a new environment to get that instinctive trust back, but it may never happen.

      • ET - Mar 23, 2016 at 2:24 PM

        Even if you’re right (which is doubtful), Cleveland would be a terrible place for Robert to land. The Browns offensive line will be a QB Death Trap after losing its two best players. If he does end up there, I hope for his sake that Robert’s not starting for a year or two.

        • John - Mar 23, 2016 at 6:50 PM

          Regardless of where he goes he would be better if he was on the bench until he can get some QB101 and learn how to read NFL defenses. In any case he has no pocket presence. Feels pressure that’s not there, then runs into the defender coming from the other side. Lots of things need to be worked on. In 2012 he was in an offense that was geared to his skill set that did not ask him to do to much. Just because he was a great college player does not mean he’ll tear it up in the NFL. Most Heisman winners don’t translate to the NFL anyways.

        • John - Mar 23, 2016 at 7:28 PM

          But, but, but he could start and be great again because he’s RG3…LOL!

      • Chad - Mar 23, 2016 at 3:48 PM

        Funny how you blame gruden saying he set up rg3 to fail, soon as he pulled rg3 and put in another qb, it was the end of the turn stye. Rg3 called wrong way to protect, he ran into the blitz twice. Not sure what game you watch, or maybe your just a fan, but if you know football you could see it was on the qb.

      • John - Mar 23, 2016 at 4:30 PM

        RG3 was not set up to fail. Had Kirk been out there with the starters, he would have had Willie Smith out there as well. Enough tears over RGme, he’s outta here and probably out of the league before to long.

        Unless he is willing to play the style of football Shanahan’s system demanded in 2012, he’ll be headed to the CFL or Arena Football. Maybe we can root for him at Verizon Center..

  3. Mr.moneylover - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    Bottom line is that he’s not good and he should be release he drop catchable balls…redskins are a mess in they secondary they have to sure that up in the draft Dont be a surprise if they first pick is a CB…jay gruden said they gonna try will blackmon out at safety and I can see that move bein a good one because he got quick hips like Dhall but I don’t think he got the young legs to keep up with the young WRs like DHall….just seen Dhall workout yesterday all IMA say is he’s gonna be a beast this season and he’s smart enough to get everybody in the right position along with a guy like will Compton who study the game…jay gruden also said Trent Murphy working on gaining weight and is expected to try DL position

  4. Mr.moneylover - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:29 AM

    The interview last week was jay gruden wanted to get better at WR position…this is what I mean when he’s scared to move on from weak link players…Ryan grant need to go also Andre Roberts… They need more size at that postion…Niles Paul playing FB idk about that move he got really comfortable with playing TE position…but if they sign Vernon Davis it makes sense because Niles Paul can catch the ball in the flat…I’m telling you jay gruden playbook is very exoctic and don’t be surprise if you see 3 TEs on the field at the same time…something the patriots do and most the time it can’t be stop

  5. Chad - Mar 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM

    Word assc. Rg3 to the Browns…..career suicide for rg3 and hue.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 23, 2016 at 7:49 PM

      Supposedly the Jets are also thinking about him. They would be a far better choice, if it’s available.
      ~

      • John - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:51 PM

        Not likely. If he can’t handle the press here, they’ll squash him like a bug in NY.

      • goback2rfk - Mar 23, 2016 at 11:32 PM

        Broncos are the best choice hands down. That defense can keep up with all those RG3andOuts

        • John - Mar 24, 2016 at 12:38 AM

          If you want a chance at another Super Bowl run your not going to put the ball in RG3s hands. Maybe Sanchez’s maybe, more likely Fitzpatrick.

  6. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 23, 2016 at 10:58 PM

    The other Michael Thomas:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/22/draft-pff-scouting-report-michael-thomas-wr-southern-miss/
    ~

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