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NTK: Fan questions—When will Redskins TE Jordan Reed get a new contract?

Mar 13, 2016, 6:21 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, March 13, 46 days before the NFL Draft.

Fan questions–What will the Redskins do at safety?

The interest in Bengals S Nelson does not appear to be too serious at this point but we don’t really know. Redskins Park is no longer a broadcast center when it comes to free agent information. That’s good in the overall scheme of things but not necessarily good for keep up with the news on a minute to minute basis. Back to Nelson, this doesn’t mean that things won’t advance further but there doesn’t appear to be much working right now. Weddle will prove to be too expensive for the Redskins. I’ve heard that he has narrowed his choice down to a few teams and the Redskins aren’t one of them.

I think you can probably look at the timing of the Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Williams extensions last year to figure out when prime time for taking care of such business is. Kerrigan signed in late July, just before training camp started. The news of Williams’ extension came just before the third preseason game in late August. So I’d look for similar timing with Reed. There is no guarantee that anything will get done but that should be the time frame if it does. The big thing to watch will be Cousins’ extension. If they free up some cap space by getting that done the chances of getting Reed done could increase.

The Redskins have needs at both positions but it’s hard to say that one is a “priority” over another. If they are on the clock and there is a choice of a safety or a D-lineman there they’ll take the best available player. If they’re equal or very close to it, they would probably take the safety. But it wouldn’t necessarily be because it’s a greater need but because there are many fewer quality safeties in this draft (and in most recent drafts) so the safety would be the most valuable pick. The point here is that the way the draft goes, who is on the board when you pick, determines your “priorities”.

I think the chances of them taking a running back in Round 1 are very slim. That’s not because I think that Scot McCloughan is philosophically opposed but because I think that Ezekiel Elliott is the only back that warrants first-round consideration and I think he’ll be gone. But I think that any time after that there could be a back on the board that McCloughan can’t pass up.


—The Redskins last played a game 63 days ago. It will be about 182 days until they play another one.

Days until: Redskins offseason workouts start 36; 2016 NFL draft 46; Redskins training camp starts 137

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Mar 13, 2016 at 8:53 AM

    Yep all the sudden we need a running back again. We have many needs and I was hoping we might get 3-4 of those in FA. If we could get a Center, Safety, and Dline. We got one Dline which will help. But, we could use another along with center and safety. I do think wiesenski would be better than Kory L. Not the best, but better. I think he ranked 15th in NFL ar center. That we could use. At least the safety and another Dline would take pressure off the draft.

    • hail74 - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:29 AM

      You have to wonder how good can a guy be if the lowly raiders think they can do better than him and his next team has 90 mil in cap space and no desire to resign him. That and the scouting reports on him say no to me.

      • 1222tmiller - Mar 15, 2016 at 12:35 PM

        Kory has consistently been ranked in the top half of centers for the last 2 years. This year I saw on one website 9th, so not sure why everyone is on the “we need a center” bandwagon. Josh sucked as a backup and we had to use him because Lauvao was the backup and got hurt before Kory. Stuff happens.

        We have some young talent at Safety and Corner so I don’t see that as the highest priority. We need more young guys at those position to keep developing, but we need ILB and D-Line even more. D-Line is so good in this draft, you can get top 10 at the end of the first round, first round quality in the second, we would be nuts not to pick up at least 2 early (1 – 4) this draft. ILB and a defensive back with the other 2 slots. It depends on best available in those areas when we are picking.

    • Trey Gregory - Mar 13, 2016 at 7:25 PM

      There’s also still plenty of time to fill some needs. We’re just getting last the flashy period of free agency and now is when good GMs really go to work to find quality players to fill out a roster or add depth at reasonable prices. Some of these guys may not be on a “Top Available Free Agents list” and some may not even be a guy you’ve heard of. Doesn’t mean they can’t come in and help.

      There’s also undrafted free agents after the draft to choose from. But we’re not going to have a star studded roster across the board. That’s just the reality of being in year two if a rebuild. Doesn’t mean we can’t find decent players to fill roles. I’m not overly concerned about a center. We have quite a few quality linemen for Callahan to groom. But I’ll be very surprised if we don’t add another safety and defensive linemen (or two) in the coming weeks. I doubt they let Goldson, Knighton, and Hatcher walk without expecting to dip into free agency for their replacements.

  2. JOHN BALASCIO - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

    I agree with you on the Reed extension. They need more cap room for that to happen. This
    Draft will be mostly be defense for us. A late round safety and Qb for us to groom. The first 4 picks I can see 1 back or wr and 3 d- line. When certain players find their true value in fa they will be coming back. You might be surprised which ones we bring back.

    • Rich Tandler - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:09 AM

      Actually they don’t need more cap space to extend Reed, depending on how they structure it. The Eagles fit Ertz’s extension into a $3.3 million cap hit this year. Reed’s overall deal will be bigger but there’s no reason to think that they can’t fit it into a similar 2016 cap hit.

  3. hail74 - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:43 AM

    So I started rewatching last seasons games. 2 things come immediatly to mind. The run game was extremely effective with Lavou and we ran the ball far more early in the season. Once he went out tho, well I can understand why they started passing more. Second, this team needs to cut down penalties in a bad way. So many drives were killed because of this.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:57 AM

      Which game did Kory Lichtensteiger get injured in? I know he eventually went on injured reserve, but he was ineffective for several games before that. (As was Le Rib, his replacement.)

      • hail74 - Mar 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM

        Sometime in the Atlanta game tho he played whole game. He really isn’t suited for the power block scheme. However watching these games we really had no success running the ball anywhere to the right of Trent after Lavou went down. Even Scherff, at least in the early games, struggled to clear lanes. Also, I really hope Thompson stays healthy because he was a difference maker looking back.

      • hail74 - Mar 13, 2016 at 7:41 PM

        Look at the game after the Atlanta game, the jets. Here’s the list of offensive starters not in that game.
        Trent, Lavou, Lichty, Djax and Reed. Throw in Jones as well. And people want to blame Kirk for being unable to beat winning teams. The defense was a mess all year with injuries from the start in the backfield, and yet people think that Phillips would of made them as good as the Broncos. I suggest more people go back and actually watch the games to gain perspective. You’ll realize why Scot M said at the combine that the team overachieved last season and he’s not going to derail his plan of building through the draft.

        • 1222tmiller - Mar 15, 2016 at 12:38 PM

          Kory got hurt early in that game and tried to tuff it out, so you can’t hold that game against him.

  4. shermanp79 - Mar 13, 2016 at 11:50 AM

    In regards to the RB position, I can see them looking for a speedy 3rd down guy. Someone bigger than Thompson. A guy who can withstand being on the field more. They could of used Thompsons quickness more, especially while struggling so bad. The offense is so predicable, RB and TE positions didn’t exactly keep teams guessing. I’m not sure what Redd can be but maybe he could of helped. Bottom line, they need to address it with some urgency. I’m just not so sure it’s before the 3rd-4th round. If they believe in Jones, at what point do you take a “role” back. Bringing in a FA may be necessary.

    A Reed deal? I think this will be interesting. He obviously has a big impact on offense. But he really is more WR. He isn’t a true sized NFL TE and it seems he can only block by holding. Which is why they reduced how much he did it. He also has had issues staying on the field.
    So what do you pay him?? He clearly has value but do they go into the top 5 of TE deals?? I just don’t think Reed is a 10-11M a year TE.( but then Contracts are getting crazy so maybe he is that guy). I think this team needs a true #1 TE, a guy who can block and catch. They aren’t easy to find but they are out there. Especially if this team truly wants to be that power run team first. The team will have a # in mind but will that make Reed happy? Is an 8M a year average enough?? Right now TE is counting just under 3%(#23) against our Cap spending 4.2M while BALT(#1) is at 14M for 9.8% of their Cap. So there is plenty of room but where is Scots number?? Is this a deal they can really get done??

    • bangkokben - Mar 13, 2016 at 12:22 PM

      Reed is a $10M/year guy. He cannot be covered by one guy. The entire offense has to work that much harder just to move the ball without him. True about the blocking and the injury history. As for the power blocking, maybe Paulsen and/or Paul can contribute. Reed doesn’t have to be on the field every snap to be effective and I don’t see them moving forward trying to run the ball 55% of the time as they did at the beginning of the year. Reed’s extension will exceed Ertz’s and Kelce’s.

    • Trey Gregory - Mar 13, 2016 at 7:28 PM

      Just look at the recent TE deals. Like what Kelce got. That’s the blueprint and the market for a top tier TE right now.

      We can say 8 isn’t enough but 10 should do it. But so much depends on guaranteed money and the length of the contract.

  5. Mr.moneylover - Mar 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM

    Redskins like RB mack brown whose already on they roster they was grooming him all year long to give him a good chance to make the team…I think redskins will pick a RB in a late round or it could be a undrafted free agent…I think mack brown will be matt Jones competition because matt brown is a down hill runner even tho hes 5’10 and weights 210…he’s short be can break tackles like its nothing… Redskins roster is not that bad that’s why they really ain’t go out and get nobody in free agency…the safety position I’m told dashon goldson could be resign to a lower deal…if they don’t bring in a free agent safety it shows they have faith they will get kyshoen Jarrett back fully healthy by the season start…CB depth and safety depth along with DL depth and WR depth is a question mark I’m sure they gonna sign somebody else we just don’t know who its gonna be TE depth is set witch means jay gruden can run a lot of three TE sets like the patriots we seen redskins do a lot of that at first but the injuryies and it makes it more difficult when all your TEs can catch and block and they big as hell

  6. Mr.moneylover - Mar 13, 2016 at 1:49 PM

    They need to work on kirk cousins long term deal before they can give Jordan reed an extension… If Jordan reed ball out again his value just gonna get bigger and bigger and that’s what redskins don’t want to happen…

    • goback2rfk - Mar 13, 2016 at 3:14 PM

      Get Cousins deal done. Let Reed play out his contract this year and then franchise Tag Reed the following year as the tag on the TE position is much cheaper than WR, etc.

      • Trey Gregory - Mar 13, 2016 at 7:33 PM

        Tagging a TE is absolutely more reasonable than other positions. But you still want to go ahead and get a deal if possible. You want to be able to tag someone else if you need to. They probably need to keep that tag around if they can’t get a deal with Cousins too.

        The cap will go up again next year. So, assuming Reed’s production is similar, a contract will be meow expensive just because of that. But if he stays healthy and produces again, that’s just one more reason for his agent to demand more. Plus, plenty of teams would probably love to kick the tires on Reed. His agent will know that. It’s better to lock him up now. The price just goes up the closer he gets to being a free agent.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 13, 2016 at 5:09 PM

      Sounds like what’s going on with Junior Gallette, albeit on a smaller $$$ scale.

      Gallette wants a one year contract (and NOT vet minimum!)), so he can beast out and get a big contract like this year’s top free agents. (No, I don’t blame him, it’s the football business.)

      But Scott McGlue wants to build something long-term. I don’t blame him either, after all we fans want our team to get back to the Super Bowl.

  7. smotion55 - Mar 13, 2016 at 1:56 PM

    Late July or early August to sign Reed, by then the last of the Post June1st cuts will have happened and everything else has settled down. They should see the results of him Working with Trent Williams and eating better for 2nd off season or if he goes back to old habits. A running back 3rd or 4th round maybe. I like C.J. Prosise for that .

  8. scottmccloughanfan - Mar 13, 2016 at 2:35 PM

    Excellent commentary RICH on the choice between safety and d-line.

    Absolutely agree, in fact I could see either being the first round choice.

    Both positions will be picked over somewhat at #21, but anything is possible in the crap-shoot of a draft………..except punter. That slot appears resolved going forward.

  9. kenlinkins - Mar 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM

    Rich: If the Redskins can sign Reed this year, how does that effect the GM’s long term plans? The CBA has made draft picks cheaper on their first 4 year contract but the price go ways up if they earn a second contract. The Redskins had no first round pick in 2013, 2nd round pick has been cut, if Reed resigned, only Thomson would have to be replaced from 2013 draft. Even if the QB position still has question marks, both Garson and Jackson could be Cap Cuts and no other large dollar players need to be resigned. Doesn’t that seem like the long term health of the Redskins Cap and roster talent is in good shape if the GM can keep producing with the draft?

    • Rich Tandler - Mar 14, 2016 at 5:20 AM

      I’m just working this out off of the top of my head but if you draft well, every year you are going to have 2 players come up for substantial but not huge deals (average annual cap hits of $6-$10 million), someone like Reed and (different draft class but for the sake of the example) Morgan Moses. Then you have a couple who are worth keeping but who are on lesser deals, like Chris Thompson and Niles Paul. And maybe one or two other at special teams type deals. Every two or three years you have a guy who will warrant a bigger deal like Trent, Cousins, and, if things work out, Preston Smith.

      That is probably a very high success rate but you get the idea. If you constantly get draft classes with multiple players commanding $10 million contracts you are going to start losing guys you want to keep. The key is letting the ones you don’t mind losing walk and having players in the pipeline to replace them. Archives

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