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Need to Know: Redskins who are still on the bubble

Mar 10, 2016, 5:28 AM EDT

Shawn Lauvao vs Jags

Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, March 10, 49 days before the NFL Draft.

Five Redskins who are still on the bubble

The Redskins released four players on Monday. But not all of the holdovers who remain under contract are assured of staying on the roster when training camp rolls around in late July. The statuses of Perry Riley and Andre Roberts have been well discussed. Here are some more players who could be on the bubble.

C Kory Lichtensteiger—His future could hinge on the draft. If the Redskins find a center they are confident can start they could decide to part ways with Lichtensteiger and his $3.8 million cap hit. But I wouldn’t count him out. While that cap number is a touch high for a backup he is versatile and that could help him survive.

ILB Adam Hayward—He has had two serious season-ending injuries in each of his two years with the team. A torn ACL suffered in the preseason cost him all of last year. He’s still under contract for this year with a cap hit of $885,000. After losing special teams stalwart Darrel Young there would be some reasons to hang on to Hayward. But if they don’t think he can stay healthy he could be gone.

OL Shawn Lauvao—This could be a tough call. He suffered a left ankle injury in Week 3 and he was out for the remainder of the season. The veteran also had to have surgery on his right foot, a procedure that was done just before the Redskins’ season ended. Lauvao has a $5 million cap hit and the younger and cheaper Spencer Long showed some promise playing in Lauvao’s left guard.. And for depth, the coaches are high on Arie Kouandjio, who was picked in last year’s draft. The handwriting could be on the wall but nothing is certain.

TE Derek Carrier—Here is another player who ended the season on injured reserve with a torn ACL. If Niles Paul is good to go for OTAs as he said he would be you have to wonder if there is a spot for Carrier. With Paul and Jordan Reed, the Redskins have two pass-catching tight ends and a third one would be of questionable utility. Carrier could go to make room for more of a blocking TE.

One thing to keep in mind is that these players, including Riley and Roberts, may not get cut immediately. Last year they waited until OTAs to release Chris Chester and Tracy Porter. And some could be around until a training camp competition.


—The Redskins last played a game 60 days ago. It will be about 185 days until they play another one.

Days until: Redskins offseason workouts start 39; 2016 NFL draft 49; Redskins training camp starts 149

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  1. lpddawg - Mar 10, 2016 at 5:51 AM

    I would guess Roberts is as good as gone once he is healthy

  2. colorofmyskinz - Mar 10, 2016 at 6:27 AM

    Yep we need to ditch Roberts for sure. Riley is expensive for his production, maybe recontract him and place on special teams? Kory too expensive as well, recontract and keep as backup? Lauvao my god, left ankle and right foot surgeries? $5 M… Recontract or dump? We need Carrier and Heyward they are not that expensive anyway. We need to free up cap space and get Long and Alex Mack. They are must grabs. We need a veteran center. Mack is much better than Kory. We need to get at least one Dline in FA, and Long looks to be best. We absolutely have to land those guys to take pressure off the draft. And we absolutely have to lock in Gallette. We need an outside linebacker that plays with that Dexter Manley emotion on his sleeve. Our OLBs are reserved with demeanor but good, but not emotional. We need at least one freak. We need Gallette bad!

    If we could lock up Mack, Long, and Gallette, the we could focus on Dline, Safety, Corner, WR, TE, in draft. With Gallette we could have the option of playing Murphy at middle linebacker, where he would be a runs topping machine.

    • garg8050 - Mar 10, 2016 at 6:45 AM

      Mack already signed with the Falcons. I think we’ll start to see a few deals with some of the second tier free agents now that most of the big money has been spent. I’d still like to see them sign a safety, maybe Nelson. A decent 1st and 2nd down NT would be a nice insurance policy assuming they draft a DL/NT in the first round.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:09 AM

        He indeed signed with Atlanta for 5 years 47 million. There was never a chance of him coming here once the available cap space was reported. In a similar contract that is half of the space the team had to use at the moment. It just needed simple math with some common sense logic.

    • troylok - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:07 AM

      I kind of agree with your thoughts here; however, Carrier is not the blocking tight end they need and Heyward is just way too injury prone. They need to dump both. Carrier might have some trade value. Mack is already taken. I will once again mention that Scherff could be moved to center. That kind of makes it a little easier to swallow to keep Lauvao around.

      I’m on the fence with Gallette. He made it seem like he was dedicated to getting back to the Redskins (he even got a Redskins tattoo, for Pete’s sake) but then he starts talking about a bigger contract. Frankly, I’d like to see him back on a small guaranteed salary with some big incentives – working out, staying healthy, number of sacks, etc.

      • troylok - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:09 AM

        And one other thing – spending a year under offensive line coach Callahan is like getting your MBA in business. I think you keep those players that weathered a year under him. They have value on the trade market if nothing else.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:18 AM

        I don’t see Schreff moving to Center. Long maybe and that still probably is a long shot. Schreff is an even bigger long shot on such a move. You can’t just move linemen into the Center position like you can between Guard and Tackle. That is a difficult transition and it’s better to just find a player that is a natural for the position. Also you may be assuming Arie Kouandjio is capable of being a starter. I understand what coaches are saying about the kid. They also said many great things about DY who was never used much on offense and subsequently cut. Arie Kouandjio had serious mobility issues and I think the team picked too high in drafting him. A stiff lower body and not something you want to invest in as a long term starer at offensive line. He is the worst half of two brothers playing in the NFL.

        • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:36 PM

          As to DY, he wasn’t cut – just not getting a contract offer. Pedantic, correction.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 10, 2016 at 5:13 PM

        Some guys just want an excuse to get tatted. Any reason is a good reason. Look at that funny looking cloud over there… that’d make a great tattoo wouldn’t it?

  3. sidepull - Mar 10, 2016 at 6:35 AM

    Tight Ends going down last season like a $10 ho. I think they keep Carrier around just in case. It cant be that bad for the TE group again can it?

    • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:42 AM

      To change the subject, does anyone still use a $10 hoe for their garden? Gardening and hoeing, I never did get it.

      • troylok - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:46 AM

        To change the subject again, I would never pay ten dollars for a Ho-Ho.

  4. colorofmyskinz - Mar 10, 2016 at 6:39 AM

    We should go after the following: Weddle, Sean Smith, Reggie Nelson, Long, Robert Ayers, Wisniewski.. We need something on Dline, center, and Dback prior to draft.

    • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:44 AM

      Old and expensive. Sounds like the kind of guys Vinny Cerato used to get.

      • jtaylor68 - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:01 AM

        Smith and Wisniewski would be the two for me. They are young and enough and shouldn’t be too expensive. If they want big money then move on to the draft.

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:12 AM

          I guarantee Wisniewski is going to get more than he’s worth. That’s the way it is this year.

          The Browns, for one, have a ton of cap room and now a hole at center.

    • bk70 - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:36 AM

      Wait for the draft before looking at FAs

      • jtaylor68 - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:08 AM

        I could live with that too.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:33 AM

        That’s not how the order normally works in the NFL. You lose most of the quality FAs before the draft.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 10, 2016 at 3:38 PM

        That’s what I’m hoping for @BK70. I know the picking may be slim come May but, I’d rather get a young group of guys in to develop, than spend the money on FA just trying to get guys that are cheaper than the guys we just let go. I feel like if we’re really making a commitment to building through the draft we should be using FA as a means to provide competition in camp. If the FA beats out the rookie, then the rookie is further evaluated, either relegated to practice squad or narrowly beat out and place in a rotation. Either way it’s cheaper than going out and getting PATCHES with a higher price tag. It would help us preserve our cap space and keep us to the draft ideology we’re trying to build on. How many years do we have with the MADTV guy? Exactly, bump FA, get us some young guys in here “draft whisperer.”

    • Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:38 AM

      Weddle is washed up and old…the chargers let him go for a reason

  5. robert herrera - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:00 AM

    Redskins draft young players and forget these injured players. Maybe pick a few free agents. The 2016 draft of defensive players are great.

  6. John - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:37 AM

    Roberts won’t be gone until after June 1st. One can’t release an “injured” player and two, the way his contract is set up, they save more by releasing him after June 1.

    Riley will be back for camp at the very least as they don’t have a proven backup behind Compton and Foster.

    • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:44 AM

      Plus there is no benefit in releasing a guy and designating him post June 1st (if they could) until closer to June 1st, since the additional savings isn’t available until June 1st.

    • Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM

      They believe martrell spaight can be a great backup they not scared to lose perry Riley he will get cut if he don’t take a pay cut

      • sidepull - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:51 AM

        Money I am with you. Spaight all the way. This guy is going to produce this year. I just want to see it. I think he has the upside to be more than a back up.

        • jtaylor68 - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM

          Couldn’t agree with you guys enough. I’m looking forward to seeing him play.

  7. Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:30 AM

    There’s no need to panic and over spend like the giants doing…redskins plan to add small pieces and build threw the draft while teams signing big names some might improve next year but it will only be short term success While teams like giants and eagles will be stuck with players They sign in free agency redskins will have young talented studs for years to destroy the division…plus there’s still some talented players redskins can go after today

    • Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:36 AM

      Its the patriots Seattle Denver and cardinals way…my two options still available… RB James Starks and WR James kearse…they can also sign CB Brent Grimes…there’s so much talent left the redskins can go after

      • jtaylor68 - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM

        Wouldn’t take Grimes even if he would play for free. Too much drama.

        • ET - Mar 10, 2016 at 11:41 AM

          Agree. Grimes (along with his drama queen wife) is exactly the kind of player to avoid. Seems like a good fit for the Browns :)

      • Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:32 PM

        The guy can play…when you see other guys not putting up the effort like you you should speak up about it but Brent grimes didn’t know his wife was gonna put that on Twitter he just talk to her about what’s going wrong on the team

  8. Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    The ol saying….going crazy in free agency will end up getting you fired when its all said and done

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:22 AM

      That’s the thing: Jerry Reese is on the hot seat, and the Giants have a tone of cap space.

      He has to pull a Vinny or he gets fired anywho.

  9. Trent D - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:42 AM

    Chase Daniels, Matt Cassell, Nick Foles, Colt McCoy and even Matt Schaub… all snatched up before Griffin. Obviously none of the GM’s in the league consulted with Tim Will or Redskinsname yet.

  10. smotion55 - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:19 AM

    Roberts is still on the roster because if they wait until after June 1st they save an extra million dollars. The same with Lauvao and 1/2 a million on Lichensteiger. Hayward stays the same. It will only matter if we need the cap space for a big signing or two. I am not sure when they have to get under before they get in trouble.

  11. Chad - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:42 AM

    Are on all but the TE. He is not bad at blocking, something that gets lost in his game. He’s a food TE and for the price hes at, is worth keeping around. Can be used in the joe gibbs style h-back.

    • Chad - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:43 AM

      Wow auto type completely change some of that…..suppose to say……..
      I agree with you on all except the TE…
      And also hes a GOOD TE not a food…

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 10, 2016 at 11:01 AM

        Food TE made sense to me…

  12. pdxskin - Mar 10, 2016 at 10:26 AM

    I anticipate all these guys will be gone by June 1, if not before…

    In FA, look for us to make a couple of mid-tier to low tier signings in the days and weeks ahead….could see us look at Wisnewski at Center but only if the price is right (he may want too much). Maybe look at Rahim Moore at Safety (if our coaches think his down year last year is something that they can correct), and Jermain Gresham at TE to replace Paulsen – he is excellent blocker and can also offer some, but admittedly not a lot, value as a red zone receiving threat (and he played in Gruden’s system at Cinci).

    • Mr.moneylover - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:27 PM

      Redskins really into Vernon Davis he’s visiting today…I personally think it will be a great fit heres why…the reason why Vernon Davis didn’t have a good year last year bein traded to the broncos at the trade deadline broncos offense don’t revole around TE it revole around the running game…the uncertainty with Niles Paul and Derrick carrier its good to have a vet to plug in next to Jordan reed and some of jay gruden playbook you gonna need 3 tight ends that can catch the ball…3 tight end set will be back in play this season

      • ET - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:43 PM

        Davis would be a good pick up at a reasonable price. It’d be great to see him and Reed on the field at the same time. Meanwhile, it seems more likely that Paulsen returns if he’s full-speed. Blocking TEs are tough to come by these days, apparently.

        • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:54 PM

          I don’t see it happening. Last March, they gave Paul an extension. He costs less than $2M a year. When was the last time that Davis was any good? Hasn’t he been stinking it up for two years? Or was it just last year?

        • ET - Mar 10, 2016 at 2:11 PM

          I’m a big Niles Paul fan, but when will he be ready to go? That’s the question. If he’s healthy and rehabbed, he’s the best man for the job.

          I suspect the meeting with Davis and/or other TEs is a front office hedge against the kind of decimation that happened last year. (Who would’ve expected both Paul and Paulsen to go down early while Reed stayed mostly healthy?)

          Yeah, Davis has been flat for the past two years. But he could still be of value if Paul (or Carrier?) is behind schedule or suffers a set back. Overall, I’d rather see TE addressed during the draft, but there are a host of competing needs there—and the tight end crop is not inspiring.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:04 PM

        Lol @ET you’re the only Niles Paul fan. That guy needs to focus on being the next face for “Just For Men” and give up football. They converted him from WR to TE, should’ve made him a DB at least then his near catches would count. I’m being hard on him but I think it’s deserved. He needs to spend less time at the Shadow Room and more time getting some balls in his hands… that came out wrong LOL. I saw a great comment on here the other day about how the tide is changing and we’re no longer riding the wave hoping for improvement. We’re drafting and getting better not counting on unproven guys to get better. Perform or get cut, perform better or face competition in camp, perform at the highest level keep your spot draft depth. Vernon Davis could be a great add, it’s the other TE last name Davis that put us in this spot, he too couldn’t stay out of the club. The night is dark and full of terrors, that should on the card for their tables from now on. Better learn to catch.. and fast MADTV isn’t for steep learning curves. He’s lucky we’ve got so many holes team wide and depth issues at his position or he would’ve BEEN GONE.

  13. berniebernard666 - Mar 10, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    I will think it is likely that Scott M is drafting a Defensive Lineman with their first pick…however, with that said…..I think there is a better than good chance that he trades back and attempts to get another 3rd round pick.

    The draft is deep with D. Linemen so players ranked from 25-40 will still be there so the Skins can trade back to the top of the 2nd round and still get a starting D.Lineman while picking up another 3rd rounder. He is building through the draft and not free agency. Look for the Skins to trade their 1st round pick. Could easily happen.

  14. ET - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM

    The the available center options still out there seem bleak.

    I’m not a huge Kory fan, but it’s looking more likely that he stays on whether or not the rumored experiment with Long at C bears fruit or not. I can only hope that The Ribster is given his walking papers, though. Josh’s performance at center last season was terrible.

    • John - Mar 11, 2016 at 6:59 AM

      Forget free agency, its to damn expensive. Folks were thinking they could get Garcon to restructure for less money? Look at what Jones got paid. I’m sure most would take Garcon over Jones. Either way you spend big money.

      The drat is the key. You grow players from within and they start at a lower price point. Free agents are expensive and often times, set in their ways. Few work out overall. Archives

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