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Osweiler contract may make it harder for Cousins and Redskins to make a deal

Mar 9, 2016, 4:46 PM EDT

Soon after Brock Osweiler agreed to a four year, $72 million contract, a fellow member of the quarterback draft class of 2012 chimed in with a congratulatory tweet:

No question that Cousins is happy for Osweiler, who was drafted in the second round, 45 spots ahead of Cousins who went in the fourth. Players who come out together frequently get to know one another after spending time at events like the combine.

But Cousins joy over Osweiler’s $18 million per year deal are not completely out of comradery. He has a dog on the fight.

Cousins is currently working on the franchise tag, which will pay him just under $20 million this year. But he is also able to negotiate a long-term deal with the Redskins. One of the main forces that drives NFL salaries is what other players at the same position are making. With Osweiler, who was on the bench behind Peyton Manning for three years before making seven starts when Manning was injured and/or ineffective, getting that nice payday, Cousins’ case for getting a big deal is strengthened considerably.

Comparing the stats of the two quarterbacks, Cousins had a better completion percentage (69.8% for Cousins to 61.8%), a better average yards per attempt (7.7 to 7.1) and a better passer rating (101.6 to 86.4). Cousins’ agent will certainly bring this information along with the contract details of Osweiler and Sam Bradford, who signed a deal that was also worth $18 million per year and had a worse year than did Cousins.

So how will this affect the ability of the two sides to get together and hammer out a deal by the July 15 deadline? It probably doesn’t help. As best we can tell the Redskins are offering about $16 million per year and Cousins’ camp wants closer to the $20 million he’s getting on the one-year franchise tag. After seeing the two recent deals there certainly is no reason for Cousins to come down substantially. So if the Redskins aren’t willing to go up much—and they might not be willing to do so based on one year os good play out of Cousins—the quarterback could well end up playing on the franchise tag and we will start the whole process over again in February of 2017.

  1. warpath1 - Mar 9, 2016 at 5:02 PM

    The new going rate for a starting quarterback, and not even top notch ones. Looking at the giants in free agency, we better beef up the center of our o-line

  2. lezziemcdykerson - Mar 9, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Let him play it out. 5 years at 18.5 with an out in the 4-5 year?

  3. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 9, 2016 at 5:32 PM

    Seems to me all the contracts happening these last few days confirm: Franchising Cousins was the right move.

    And being quite in free agency is the right move.

    “Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports it is a five-year contract worth up to $85 million with $52.5 million in guaranteed money, although there’s no note about structure or the nature of the guarantees at this point. ”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/09/giants-add-olivier-vernon-to-free-agent-haul/
    ~

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 9, 2016 at 5:39 PM

      “quiet”
      ~

  4. hail74 - Mar 9, 2016 at 6:40 PM

    Chase Daniel gets a 3 yr, 21 mil contract? The skins definitely made right choice tagging cousins. I think all these signings may work in cousins favor but that they still agree to multi year deal before deadline.

  5. hitmeimopen - Mar 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    We should stay quiet in FA so KC and his agent can see how hard it’s going to be to for Kirk to excel with a depleted roster. Maybe they get the hint – and maybe they don’t, but when they sign a team-friendly long-term contract the team can then surround him with talent. My sense is that Scot has to play hardball – even with his franchise QB.

    • renhoekk2 - Mar 10, 2016 at 8:54 AM

      You realize that E Manning is getting $24M this year and the Giants had close to $50M under the cap to sign all of those FA to big contracts. So paying a QB $20M+ doesn’t have to be a problem for the salary cap. Maybe it’s not Cousins salary, but a bunch of other contracts on the payroll that is the problem

  6. ffjoeco3 - Mar 9, 2016 at 6:59 PM

    He’s got one year to show last year was no fluke. He plays this coming up year like last year. I wouldn’t have a problem giving him 3 or 4 years at 19-20 million per. It’s a gamble for both sides. He tanks and his price tag drops.

    • bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 7:36 PM

      You don’t get it. That’s not the market. If he plays like last year, next year, you’ll have to add $3-5 million to those figures. You then have two solid years; then you don’t get to buy in 2017 for 2016 prices.

    • hail74 - Mar 9, 2016 at 8:38 PM

      next years tag is going to be north of 24mil so thinking you’ll sign a “proven” starter for 19 is prob not realistic

  7. bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 7:12 PM

    So much for meeting in the middle. Now $19M/year is likely. (Unless the terms of the Osweiler deal are Kaepernick-esque.) The bottom line is the guaranteed money. If the Redskins are willing to guarantee this year ($20M) with the chance and hope (they do want to win, ya know) that they’ll have to guarantee next year ($24M). Seems like $45M in guaranteed money ought to get the job done.

  8. bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 7:31 PM

    Osweiler = $18,000,000 a season
    Osweiler = $59,016.39 per NFL pass attempt
    Osweiler = $96,256.68 per career completions
    Osweiler = $1,636,363.63 per career touchdown passes

    So much for sample size.

    Good thing Cousins wanted to be here and didn’t wait a week after free agency to sign the tender. Do you think the Broncos being put in this situation wouldn’t consider signing Cousins and giving up the 32nd pick of the draft and next year’s #1, instead of having to trade for Kaepernick, or signing a left over free agent?

    • hail74 - Mar 9, 2016 at 8:46 PM

      pfft thats chump change, chase daniel just got 21 mil per career touchdown passes

      • bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 9:04 PM

        I know. I keep wondering what secrets he has on NFL personnel. He was the highest paid back-up in Kansas City the past few seasons and unless he beats out Bradford, will continue to have that distinction despite being an undrafted QB given his first chance by Vinny Cerato. Who is that man’s agent?

    • Manny w - Mar 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM

      Someone break down Cousin’s stats to his salary this year to compare to osweilers pay…

    • Thetruthis - Mar 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM

      Broncos pay Cousins??? Are you crazy, they are an organization with a brain. Before they would have paid Cousins, they would have paid Osweiler don’t you think? The Broncos are not falling to this market mess that is going to have to adjust itself JUST LIKE THE STOCK MARKET DID!!! And it is NOT pretty for the people who buy too high.

      The Broncos are taking the better risk. If these two back up quarter backs now have these kind of deals all that really says is you can make almost anybody a game manager QB. So, it is stupid to pay them like an elite QB just because of these stupid numbers. I think they call it in the NFL “NEXT MAN UP” It is much cheaper. You people do realize that all of the QB’s in the NFL are successful QB’s in some system. You just have to find the right system for the QB. Oh, and by the way, that only mean they can win you some games, it does NOT mean they will ever have what it takes to win the SB.

      • bangkokben - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:30 PM

        Right and the Redskins found their system QB. (Finding a QB that fits your system is not an easy task, btw, or else 32 teams would have QB and the market wouldn’t be so effed up.)

      • John - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:08 PM

        Good luck hunting for the next Brady, Manning, Rogers, etc. There are none that will be ready this year in the draft. For every good one, dozens more blow out.

  9. bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 7:37 PM

    The last two years, free agency has become the quarterback carousel. Isn’t this fun?

  10. smotion55 - Mar 9, 2016 at 7:49 PM

    This is just what we need I Hope Come together and split the difference . 18 mil and be done with it. Just make it more in bonus then salary. I just feel that signing McCoy before everything went down today was smart and not as costly as it could have been.and just wondering if they feel {GM and Coach } with McCoy being the 3rd year in this system he can run the team in 2017 and they groom a draft pick this year if Cousins gets real Greedy. Another thought is they don’t want a long term until they see another year out of Cousins.
    The GM said he will not sacrifice the team for 1 player and seeing Elway stand his ground in Denver and draw the line { good for him } altho it has left him and Denver in a bad way. QB salaries are a joke and will ruin this game if it keeps up. Way to many getting paid that haven’t earned it and are unproven .

  11. bangkokben - Mar 9, 2016 at 9:40 PM

    $37 MILLION GUARANTEED??!!!

    $5,285,714.29 per NFL start.

    Maybe he’s the next Matt Schaub.

  12. sidepull - Mar 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM

    And Scot will draft a QB

  13. PhillySkinsFan - Mar 10, 2016 at 1:01 AM

    Forget getting him for anywhere near $16 mil per now. He has better numbers over a larger sample size than Brock. If I’m his agent I’m not letting him sign for a penny less $19.5 mil with $55 mil guaranteed. And if Skins got him for that, they’d owe the agent a favor. And doing this all again next year only makes it more expensive. Bite the bullet and find a number under $20 per (if you can). Now…..if KC is looking in the $22- $25 range, stick with the tag. The market just got set and it ain’t what Scotty Mc was hoping for.

  14. goback2rfk - Mar 10, 2016 at 1:08 AM

    New reports are coming out Rg3 is more than likely going to sign with the SuperBowL champs with a chance to lead the Denver offense next year. Talk about an upgrade from your current position!

    • John - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:44 AM

      Not likely. It is far more likely that they would go after Ryan Fitzpatrick, while not the best, a proven plug and play veteran with experience.

  15. Rob - Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 AM

    Pay the man.

  16. Big Ed - Mar 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM

    Cousins entire career he hasn’t beat a winning team above 500 as a starter. Brook has beat New England and Cincinnati to name a few.

    • Rich Tandler - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:47 PM

      Right. And the two quarterbacks have played with defenses that are almost identical. Well, in that they both line up 11 players. Other than that, quite different. Helps you beat those winning teams.

    • John - Mar 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM

      Brock had a much, much, much better defense. Not exactly a fair comparison.

      Saying things like that is like Mike Tomczak was a great QB as a backup for the Bears back in the mid 1980s. Tomczak sucked but the defense was awesome!

  17. mauriceatwood - Mar 10, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    I think they need to let him play the one year on the franchise tag. With the schedule the Redskins have coming this will show if Cousins is for real or not. If not, then the Redskins will have to start over at quarterback or keep Cousins for a reduced salary. If he plays well with that schedule and the Redskins make some noise in the playoffs then give the man $20 million per year. He IS the franchise at that point and needs to be paid accordingly. Right now, he is just tagged as being the franchise. If he does as well against the division winner schedule then he won’t just be tagged the franchise he will be the franchise.

  18. Geof - Mar 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM

    No matter what Cousins lucked up and did this past season, he doesn’t have to stability of a proven record to warrant a huge contract. He is a product for the most part of Grudens desire to get rid of RGIII. And until he can have a stable and proven season I say let him play on the “non exclusive” franchise tag for now and then renegotiate later.
    He’ll always be a crybaby and a bumb to me lest we forget how he cried about being traded if he did get the starting job this past season. He is not a true loyal Redskin. And that’s going to hurt us down the road.

    • John - Mar 10, 2016 at 7:04 PM

      RG3 demonstrated that he is not ready to be a starter in the NFL, unless he is in an offense like the one thy used in 2012. Once he got hurt, he threw down the gauntlet and told Shanahan all the plays he would not run. He demonstrated he could be a thin skinned little bitch. He failed as a pocket passer and succeeded at blaming others around him. He also could not handle having to compete. Now the best he can do is be a backup in this league.

      Gruden did what he had to do. To keep his job, the team had to win and Kirk was the best chance for that to happen. With a piss poor running game and defense that in many games was on vacation, Kirk got the team to 9 wins and the playoffs.

      Perhaps he should have started RG3 who showed he is not a pocket passer. Can’t read defenses. Has no pocket presence. Runs into his blocker, etc. They might have won 4 games with RG3.

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