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CSN: Are there more Redskins roster moves coming?

Mar 8, 2016, 10:53 AM EDT


The Redskins dropped four players yesterday but indications are that they are not done trimming. Tandler takes a look at the situation involving a couple of players on

  1. Mr.moneylover - Mar 8, 2016 at 11:19 AM

    I’m getting the filling they gonna go after a WR but I’m not sure who…once Andre Roberts healthy he will be gone they could target one of the Bengals WRs or Seattle WR

  2. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 8, 2016 at 11:58 AM

    Pretty sure Andre Roberts will be gone.

    I don’t know about Riley…would they want to have another ILB in hand before parting ways with him?

    • bangkokben - Mar 8, 2016 at 1:20 PM

      As soon as Foster is signed, I suspect, Riley will be gone. Unless, they want Foster and Riley to battle it out during camp. Riley is getting paid too much to not be starting and more than the Redskins are likely to give to Foster

      • goback2rfk - Mar 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM

        Riley should be cut immediately.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 8, 2016 at 1:53 PM

        Robinson as well. Want to see how this draft turns out we should be able to address several defensive positions and maybe Center? Maybe WR and defense. If they wait until after the draft to get some cheap, low risk vets in camp I wouldn’t be mad either. I think we can cheat for another year if we get better at NT, CB or S. An upgrade in any one of those postions buys us another year to address the other two. One pick or one FA. If we can use the other picks to sure up ilb, wr, center maybe draft some dept at lb for special teams. We’ve got to get younger and cheaper in a hurry to address our extension situations next year.

        • bangkokben - Mar 8, 2016 at 4:24 PM

          Robinson is a free agent whom the Redskins have no intentions of resigning.

          But you’re right about the defense needing a complete overhaul and that it may just get patched up for a year or two. Knighton and Goldson were one year patches with no replacements drafted in the early rounds of the draft.

          Right now the starting safeties are DeAngelo Hall and Duke Ihenacho. The ILBs are Perry Riley and Will Compton. (Mason Foster will replace Riley as soon as he’s signed.) Who knows who will start opposite Breeland at corner to start the season. All three of these positions could be addressed in the draft but outside the top two picks, no one is expected to start right away. Then there’s the need for fresh blood at WR and C as well.

          As far as getting younger and cheaper, I’d prefer they just get better. They got younger and cheaper at one safety spot. In fact the defense only accounts for $50.2 million of the cap compared to $82.6 million on the offense.

          Next year the ‘skins have over $60 million in cap room. Cousins and Reed will eat in to that ($20-$30 million depending on if and when a long-term deal is made with Cousins and whether an extension for Reed is done before the season.)

        • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

          “Right now the starting safeties are DeAngelo Hall and Duke Ihenacho. ” Lol I stand corrected; we need to get younger, cheaper and better. Hall and Nacho are both FA’s, part of the reason the cap is so inflated. Relying on FA’s this long. We swung and missed on Rambo and Thomas a few years ago.. might as well throw Amerson in there though some could argue that was more of a botch than a swing and miss. What I meant was we need to get younger and cheaper so that WE CAN sign Reed and Cousins long term AND give them a core of talent to grow with. Center, WR and RB. I was just trying to point out that on defense, though we have many holes, we can mask our deficiencies by drafting a stud in just one of those areas of need. A stud NT fixes the pass rush and eases the load on our weak secondary, also would help the run game. Drafting a shutdown corner or Taylor-esque safety (blasphemy) would hide a weak pass rush and make an opposing offense one dimensional or at least make them off balance more rush than pass. I’d be fine if the MADTV guy felt he drafted he got that DT or CB and spent our other picks addressing other needs like WR, C, RB and TE (Niles Paul has bricks for hands and Compton is not the answer). Just was trying to make the point that so many people are hung up on the fact that this is a stocked defensive draft doesn’t mean we need to load up on defensive picks. There are other areas of need as well as the overall need to get younger, cheaper AND BETTER!

        • bangkokben - Mar 8, 2016 at 5:25 PM

          Cousins and Reed will be taken care of. The Redskins have plenty of cap space in the future for it not to be a concern.

          We are getting younger and cheaper. Ihenacho counts. $1.67 against the cap and is much younger than Goldson. Is he any better? Who cares at that rate. Will Compton is younger and cheaper than Keenan Robinson. Foster is cheaper and a few months older than Riley. Any NT drafted will be younger and cheaper than Pot Roast. Chris Long, if he signs, would be younger and cheaper than Hatcher. Do these moves make our defense better? worse? the same? The point I’m trying to make is that most of these moves are cheaper and younger but short-term fixes that will need replacements within two years. They don’t solve our draft needs and don’t make our defense better.

          Now than can change if we draft ONE impact player. A dominant safety, corner, or d-linemen might make the sum of the previous part list MUCH MUCH better.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 8, 2016 at 5:52 PM

          Cousin’s and Reed will be taken care of but what about their back ups? What about building a younger core around them? That’s the entire point I’m making. The old guys are more susceptible to injury. Don’t just think of the sunk cost, think of the opportunity cost. What do we forego by settling on Nacho, Hall or Long? By signing declining FA’s because we can get them at a good price? They get hurt we’re still paying them and possibly having to bring in FA’s midseason to address the needs (think Cary Williams). We have 8 picks, if we can get half of them to be starters, whether immediate or rotational, that takes the strain off having to pay 10 guys at DB when only 2 of them have a future of the team. Kind of like the old adage if you have 2 QB’s you don’t have 1. We have 10 DB’s and 80% of them are trash, the other 20% have upside but still no telling. ONE PICK just one stud at CB or S changes that. One QUALITY pick at DT masks our secondary, buys us another year to find DB help and vice versa. Now when I’m talking younger and cheaper I’m mentioning draft picks, Foster is a free agent so is Long. Yes Foster may be younger, cheaper and better than Robinson but he’s 27. Not saying gut the whole team, we have FA’s that are working out but overall we need to get younger and cheaper farm talent out of our draft. I’d have no problem if the cap was so high because it was a bunch of guys going into their second or third contracts but it’s the reliance of free agency which is what I’m saying we need to get away from when I say younger and cheaper.

        • bangkokben - Mar 8, 2016 at 7:26 PM

          “What about building a younger core around them? That’s the entire point I’m making.”

          I agree that the Redskins need to build through the draft. Unfortunately, when you change defenses and you’ve built the defense with FAs, it’s going to take time. There are reasons the Redskins are where they are when it comes to home grown talent. Moving forward, looking at McCloughan’s track record shows that he can get it done but it will take time and require FA patches. He needs to find a Brandon Scherff type player for the defense. It is unrealistic to expect four contributors in their rookie years but not impossible.

          But let’s not misinterpret the situation either. The Redskins have the guys listed below making contributions and all of them are count less than a million toward the cap:

          Morgan Moses
          Spencer Long
          Bashaud Breeland
          Matt Jones
          Chris Thompson
          Jamison Crowder
          Ryan Grant
          Dustin Hopkins
          Tress Way
          Will Compton
          Kyshoen Jarrett

          That’s seven of the 24 “starters” (two specialists) and the slot receiver and nickle corner. In other words 9 of the 26 (34.6%) most active players on game day take up just 3.9% of the cap. That is moving in the right direction.

        • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 8, 2016 at 8:14 PM

          And all of them, except for Way I believe, are recent draft picks which is echoing my mantra of getting younger and cheaper. Ryan Grant is trash though he cost us that ATL game and has been inconsistent when he’s had chances, he doesn’t count. I could be being cynic here but I predict he’s the 2016 Andre Roberts, underwhelming. Jarrett we’ll see but I’m not too high on our safeties at the moment. The list is a little misleading when you have kickers on it though, not quite the young core of talent I was talking about when I mentioned it earlier. The rest are all welcome additions and shining examples of what I’d like to see the team go after. I think out of those guys only 4 of them were draft rds 1-2 (can’t remember if we got Crowder in the second or third) so no, it shouldn’t even be in the same sentence as impossible to have rookies contribute. Look at last draft’s production. We took Kirk like 100 picks after RGIII and look who’s still with the team. Crazier things have happened. I want to see us diversify our picks. I’m hoping to see free agency moves AFTER the draft. Let’s see who we can get in the draft then fill the holes or bring in competition/locker room guys what have you later. Yeah I know free agency starts tonight and by the end of April the FA left will likely be as saucey as the ones we just let go but the thinking behind this is maybe the vets help the rookies with preparation.. those that can’t do teach. I know FA is a necessary evil. I know the MADTV guy is the supposed “draft whisperer.” Conventional wisdom (and the horse’s mouth) says he won’t be a big player in FA, I just hope that’s for years to come. Scot’s only here 4 years, so I’m not completely off my rocker when I preach urgency.

  3. goback2rfk - Mar 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    League minimum or nothing for Gallete

    • John - Mar 8, 2016 at 11:31 PM

      Totally unrealistic. He’s gonna cost $5-7 muh million. Edge rushers cost big bucks.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Mar 9, 2016 at 10:16 AM


      • jacob - Mar 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM

        Just no guarantees.torn achilles could be a game changer.

  4. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 8, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    Malik Jackson: 6 years, $90 million, $42 million guaranteed from the Jaguars.

    That’s big money. Good thing we’re not the Danny & Vinnie show anymore.

    • ET - Mar 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM

      Malik ain’t no Haynesworth, he’s a good player. But on balance, I agree with you. Hopefully we pick up some depth and value signings during free agency instead of making one or two splash signings for mega-bucks.

      • lezziemcdykerson - Mar 8, 2016 at 9:52 PM

        “Hopefully we pick up some depth and value signings during free agency instead of making one or two splash signings for mega-bucks.”

        Let’s pray for depth and that our rookies can come in and be quality starters over camp competition.

  5. jacob - Mar 9, 2016 at 10:27 AM

    5Million for Riley isnt bad. Even as a backup if healthy would be a great insurance policy. He does have that leadership thing going for him. He was ballin hard before that injury and has played hurt at times.

    • Rich Tandler - Mar 9, 2016 at 12:30 PM

      $5 million is a lot for a backup at any position except QB. And even there it’s getting too expensive.

      • Jacob - Mar 9, 2016 at 4:51 PM

        Yeah. I want to justify it, but it is a stretch although he looked like a man possessed at times last season.Just like junior with the injuries.if he was better in coverage…. Archives

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