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Need to Know: The Redskins week that was—No surprise as Cousins, RG3 dominate news

Mar 5, 2016, 4:58 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, March 5, four days before the start of NFL free agency.

The Redskins week that was—No surprise as Cousins, RG3 dominate news

A look at some of the past week’s most popular posts from here and from CSNmidatlantic.com.

Five Redskins who need to step up in 2016—Running back Matt Jones heads this list of players who have big opportunities in front of them this year and need to get it done on the field to take advantage of it. My bet is that two of these players go into 2017 as solid starters, two aren’t on the roster a year from now and another will have to compete to make the team. I don’t know which player is in which category but that’s the way the NFL usually works.

Momentum builds surrounding RG3 joining Cowboys—Sorry, folks, I continue to not believe it. Eventually, even in a circus like the one that has Jerruh as its ringmaster, football sense has to be the top consideration. And if Tony Romo gets injured again Griffin just isn’t the right person to come in and move the offense; their timing routes are not what he does well. Add in the fact that Jones recently said that he expects Romo to be the QB there for another four or five years and you have a situation where Griffin is looking elsewhere for employment. There is no way he wants to wait that long for a shot at starting.

What happens after the Redskins tag Kirk Cousins?—We’ve already seen one part of the post-tag process; after getting franchised on Tuesday Cousins signed it on Wednesday. The most likely next step in the process is—nothing. There is no reason for either side to do much now. They will watch with interest as the market for quarterbacks such as Brock Osweiler and, if he is released, Colin Kaepernick develop. There might be a small push to get a deal done just before the draft but serious talks are unlikely to crank up until the days just before the July 15 deadline.

In what round will the Redskins draft a quarterback?—With Cousins on a one-year deal and currently the only quarterback on the roster the Redskins need to reset at the position. Whether Colt McCoy returns or not they still need a young quarterback to get into the system. It will be interesting to see how high a priority Scot McCloughan puts on getting one.

Is Junior Galette pricing himself too high?—This is pretty simple, really. Galette wants a one-year deal that will let him get back on the free agent market next year. The Redskins want to sign him for a few years in a deal that is loaded with incentives including per-game roster bonuses. Galette’s agent was encouraging his client to go with the Redskins’ offer. Galette fired his agent and is going to find one who will push for the one-year deal. It doesn’t look promising for his future with the Redskins right now but we will see.

Timeline

—On this date in 1993 Joe Gibbs stunned Redskins fans by announcing his retirement.

—The Redskins last played a game 55 days ago. It will be about 190 days until they play another one.

Days until: NFL free agency starts 4; Redskins offseason workouts start 44; 2016 NFL draft 54

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  1. garg8050 - Mar 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM

    At what point will the ‘Skins start to release some players, i.e. Roberts, Riley? I know they’re still trying to get something for Griffin, and hoping to restructure deals with Hatcher and Goldson. But I don’t understand why they’re holding on to players with no future with the team. Other teams have been releasing players for the past two weeks.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 5, 2016 at 8:07 AM

      The new NFL year starts March 9, so by then.
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    • bangkokben - Mar 5, 2016 at 8:28 AM

      I love your question. I don’t have any answers — just speculation. I suspect that it won’t be until the very last minute. Last year, the Redskins held onto Terry Porter and Chris Chester well into free agency (May 27) while they released Stephen Bowen and Barry Cofield the day they signed Rick Jean-Francois and re-signed Tom Compton. That was February 27 and it may have been just two days before the league year. News of it may have been known a couple days prior. I can’t recall. But of all the guys speculated to be released it was just those four – two right before free agency starts and other two, two months later. Perhaps we will see the same thing this time around.

      • garg8050 - Mar 5, 2016 at 8:42 AM

        I’m sure they have a plan, and know who’s gonna be cut. Unfortunately, with them not being able to get a long-term deal done with Cousins, they will have about $4 million less to spend in free agency, at least during this initial phase ($20 million vs. the $16 million allotted for Griffin). They may get some (or most) of that back if/when they’re able to get a long-term deal done.

        I would like to see them release the following: Roberts, Riley, and Lauvao. Get Hatcher and Goldson’s number down to $2-3 million per or release them as well. I suppose Lichtensteiger is safe for now because I read somewhere that the Long experiment at Center didn’t work either. Sounds like AK might be ready to take over at LG; keep Long as a back-up. I would not bring Morris back unless it was a cheap, incentive-laden deal. Same for Knighton. Bring back Foster and look for DT’s and ILB’s in free agency; no good saftety’s available. I don’t think Weddle fits the mold McCloughan is looking for.

        Can’t wait for all of this to start!

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 5, 2016 at 9:16 AM

          Release Lauvao?

          Doubt they’d do it before June 1, if at all (dead cap would go from $2,000,000 to $1,000,000):

          http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/shawn-lauvao/
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        • bangkokben - Mar 5, 2016 at 9:24 AM

          Exactly. We can’t wait for it to start and then when it starts we’ll be wondering when is Riley getting cut or when is Lauvao. The $4 million in extra cap spending would never have been used in the first month of free agency, IMO. It would be kept in reserve — like last year — for the rookies and in season signings. They’ll get it all back when a long-term deal is done with Cousins but they still won’t push the threshold of the cap which does create less flexibility.

          I suspect Roberts is gone March 9. Riley, once Foster is signed, and Lauvao may stick around into summer. Lichtensteiger too. The savings on Goldson is $8 million but any team will give him $3 million to play this year so that number will have to come up. Hatcher is half the savings so that number will be higher as well. The bottom line is trying to add net money to the cap. Releasing the player and then having to pay more for an equal but younger replacement isn’t exactly coming out ahead. Right now the team has to get a starting end and safety for less than $16 million cap hit and draft their replacements but it only gets $12 million in savings if they release both. I’m not sure what you can find on the open market for less than $12 million.

        • Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:20 PM

          I personally would like to see arie kouandjiou start next to Trent Williams…Spencer long killed our running game he got pushed back way to much he did good in pass protection but struggle in other areas…I personally think redskins got they center and left guard on the roster already for next year they can add depth but its not a serious need like WR depth or DB depth

        • Trey Gregory - Mar 6, 2016 at 4:58 AM

          I’ll be shocked if they cut Lauvau. He’s the best LG on the roster regardless of if you thinks he’s any good or not. If you think he sucks the how are you going to feel about his replacement? That would just downgrade the position and cut into our depth. It’s a bit unrealistic to expect a late round pick like AK to be ready to start in his second year.

          I also don’t see Goldson leaving. But it wouldn’t surprise me as much if he does. He was the team’s leading tackler and it’s well documented he was a key leader on the team. He’s getting paid too much, but 2-3 mil is unrealistically low. Why take that big of a cut? 4-5 mil still frees up space. We would also then be cutting into our depth and need to find a replacement.

          McCloughan seems to like to have pieces in place until he replaces them. What exactly would we gain by cutting Roberts and Riley a week before we have to? We could be able to hold onto them longer than that depending on how their contracts are set up.

          Our cap situation isn’t that dire. We’re going to free up some space. Just be patient and let it happen. But we’re also not going to be signing a bunch of guys so why do we need the space? The only big ticket FA I could see us signing is a corner if they decide to let Culliver go. But that would be to replace a cut and I have a feeling Culliver stays unless something in a physical reveals it’s too risky to keep him.

          Maaaaybe we spring for a NT too so we’re not so dependent on drafting a rookie. Maybe. But even then I would t expect a big name guy so I guess that’s not really a big ticket FA.

  2. goback2rfk - Mar 5, 2016 at 10:18 AM

    Why the heck is Rg3 still on the roster. No one is trading for him when they can get him in Free Agency.
    Release Rg3! Let the man get on with his career and get out of this career killer known by the name of the Redskins.

    • bangkokben - Mar 5, 2016 at 11:30 AM

      If Mike Freeman from Bleacher Report is correct and that there are 10-15 teams interested to some level in Griffin, then why not hold him until the end. It only takes one team that wants him bad enough to meet Griff’s contract desires and to throw in a conditional late round pick. The Redskins would probably trade him for a 2018 7th rounder just to get something back.

      • Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:13 PM

        That most likely won’t happen…teams gonna wait to see when rg3 is release then go after him and set the contract up the way they want to instead of paying rg3 16mill…and from what I was told he decline to renegotiate his contract so I don’t think its a trade thing…I herd they been in contact with colt McCoy agent tryna get him to comeback to the redskins I don’t know how that’s going but if colt McCoy is not resign the plan is redskins are planning to go after nick foles once the rams release him…

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:21 PM

          The Rams take a big hit releasing Foles:

          http://www.ramsondemand.com/threads/exploring-the-rams-options-with-nick-foles.42843/

          So even if the Rams released Foles before his base salary became guaranteed, it would still be a net hit of $8 million or they could declare him a post-June 1 cut to make it a hit of $7 million.
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          Rumor is they want to trade him. Redskins were mentioned in that rumor, but now that we’ve franchised Cousins I don’t think we’d want to add that much more cap hit to the QB position.

        • Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:34 PM

          They might if they workout a long term deal with kirk cousins by the time rams release nick foles …its possible still until July 15…was told redskins still very much want to workout a long term deal instead of paying him 16 mill for this year

        • Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:39 PM

          And that could also be the hold up of rg3 bein release…it could be a bidding war behind the scene for rg3… Just like when Trent Richardson was traded to the colts from the browns… ravens wanted him and I think the jags wanted him but nobody expected a deal to go down until the last minute…its a reason why they haven’t release him we just don’t know what it is

        • Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:42 PM

          Was also told redskins do not want or plan a rookie to backup kirk next season they want a vet to be the backup ..the rookie will be the starter next season if they still can’t workout a long term deal with kirk cousins

        • bowlregard - Mar 6, 2016 at 1:51 PM

          I’d rather have McCoy. He knows the system and is better than Foles. Foles had a good year in Chip’s first year when the OL was playing well and they had DJ still. But the next year he got shell-shocked. He might still suffer from PTSD. I think RG3 suffers from the same malady playing behind the poor Skins OL.

        • Trey Gregory - Mar 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM

          @Bowlregard: I’m with you. I would rather have Colt.

          Foles seemed attractive. Maybe he’s a starter, maybe he’s not. But he’s certainly a young guy and would be one of the better backups in the league. But it seems like he would want more money than most backups, and could get it. Even besides money, it would create a QB controversy. Any time Cousins has a bad game (and he will, it’s unrealistic to think he won’t) then the haters will come out and start clambering to start Foles. We just put the QB controversy to bed. I don’t want another one.

          Also, Colt McCoy is a plenty good backup. It would terrify me if he had to start, but he’s a good backup. He knows the system, I think his teammates respect him, and there’s no chance that he’s a threat to Cousins job. I honestly think Foles has something left. It’s way too early to dismiss that. Not that he’s going to be an elite QB, but I think he can be an average starter. It would cause a rift if he started getting back to form.

          And I couldn’t tell if you were joking or not about the shell shocked thing. But I truly do believe that has at least something to do with RG3’s decline. It’s not the full story, but it’s a part of it. I think he had a hard time trusting his line or sticking with a play, going through his progressions, and finding the open receiver because he’s just waiting to get crushed and maybe hurt again. I don’t think Tony Gonzales was wrong when he said RG3 should probably go see a sports psychiatrists.

  3. Mr.moneylover - Mar 5, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    The perry Riley experience bein the starter has came and gone…I expect them to release him along with Andre Roberts and if Jason Hatcher don’t take a pay cut I expect them to release him as well….seahawks haven’t release nobody yet along with the packers redskins taking the same motto…wait until the last minute then go for the kill like last year…take care of your own first witch they did by extended will Compton Chris Thompson and tress way…I expect more moves to happen by the end of the day on Sunday to get ready to talk to agents on Monday at 12

    • goback2rfk - Mar 5, 2016 at 6:07 PM

      I hope Hatcher goes even if he gets a pay cut. Roberts should have been cut last year. And for Rg3, have a good one bud and learn how to slide man, you gotta be able to get down with tearing your knees up again.
      Will never forget you Rob, thanks for the season rgknee in 2012.

      • Trey Gregory - Mar 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM

        I get why you want Hatcher gone. But think about it. If he is willing to take a pretty good pay cut (and I’m not sure why he would, but let’s just say he would) then he would be great for depth. He doesn’t need to be the starter. He doesn’t need to play all the snaps. But they can treat it in such a way where everyone knows he’s the “best” DE but he’s getting too old so we rest him and only use him when we need to. That’s way better than some UFA who we sign because we have no one else and who we have no intentions of keeping around. So unless we draft that many promising prospects and maybe get a FA or two who are in our long term plans: there’s a spot for Hatcher on this team. He can play in big spots. 20-30% of the snaps or something.

        That’s very much a stretch and wishful thinking that he would want to play for 1-2 mil on a short term deal AND diminish his role. But you never know. There’s probably a happy medium somewhere

  4. jt kopp - Mar 5, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    I wonder if Scott has any offers for Griffin. If all these teams have interest, I would think it’s better to pony up a draft pick than get into a bidding war. Why would L.a. mind for example? They’re already way ahead in any potential deal.16 million isnt bad for a starting qb.

    • bowlregard - Mar 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM

      It seems to me, if it’s the only option, go ahead and sign Galette for the one year. Maybe work in an option to match the second year.

    • Trey Gregory - Mar 6, 2016 at 4:42 PM

      I don’t think you’re understanding the situation correctly. Nobody, and I mean nobody wants to take on RG3’s current contract. It’s too much and it’s guaranteed in case of injury. 16 mil isn’t bad for a franchise QB but there are plenty of other starting QBs who have had more success than RG3 making less. And RG3 hasn’t proven he’s even a starter let alone a franchise QB. Plus it’s just a one year deal. If a team was sure enough about him where they were going to take on a 16 mil cap hit then they probably want a long term deal.

      This isn’t me making a statement about RG3’s talent, it’s just the reality of how team’s are looking at him. They dont see a starting QB. They see potential and a guy worth bringing in to compete for a spot. The 10 teams interested in him, they will want to give him around 2-4 mil a year until they can really evaluate if he’s starter material or not. But there isn’t an NFL team out there who believes RG3 is a sure fire starter worth 16 mil.

      I believe all 10 of those teams would give up a 7th round draft pick for RG3 if he was willing to renegotiate his contract before he’s cut. But why would he do that? He holds all the cards right now and loses that if he agrees. He can go into free agency and pick the situation he wants then use other team’s interest to leverage a better deal for himself. He can go talk to the other coaches and GMs (something he can’t do right now) and get a feel for where he really wants to go. But the whole trade thing rests on him being willing to change his contract. Because absolutely nobody will take him for next year under that current contract.

  5. John - Mar 6, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    Interesting article on mmqb.si regarding the future of RG3 and Collin Kapernik. The author states that both will be out of the league before either wins 10 more games. In RG3s case he pointed out how Robert would run from pressure that was not there, that led to him running into pressure and getting sacked. He pointed out that Roberts body is not built to take the pounding from the initial hit followed by hitting the ground. Also he does not understand route concepts in relation to coverage.

    So where does Robert go? If he is to be a backup, which is the most likely scenario? Back up Taylor in Buffalo. Similar styles to minimize making changes if your starter goes down. If he went to say, Dallas, they would have 2 totally different styles of QB, so that would not be an easy transition. You can catch the interview in the ESPN radio vault. It was on The Drive in the 4 o’clock hour Friday.

    Oh and no NFL coaches and execs are not falling all over themselves in the hopes of signing RGme….

    • Trey Gregory - Mar 7, 2016 at 12:40 AM

      @John: I think there were a lot of assumption in that article being paraded as fact or some sort of “more likely than not” statements.

      I’m not going to argue with anyone who says RG3 was awful in 2013-2014. Because he was. I will argue with people who think he was only good in 2012 because he ran the ball, but that’s not relevant unless you believe that. But to assume that just because someone was once something, it means they will always be that thing, is ridiculous. I don’t know, you don’t know, football writers don’t know, nobody knows how RG3’s career will round out. But we all know he has a ton of potential and he’s still young enough to turn it around.

      Now, there are numerous stories of young players with potential who never get it together. But there are also plenty of stories about guys who flopped at first and find success later (Steve Young is a great comparison. Maybe Kurt Warner).

      I’m just saying its way too soon to write him off like that. I also think it’s a little much for you to say no teams are falling over themselves to sign him. We know of 10 teams who are interested. But we dont know their level. Some guys might actually be reply excited to get him into their building for an interview. But they can’t say that right now, because that would be tampering. So let’s just not assume we know how NFL front offices feel about RG3.

      It would really be better if we could just stop talking about him. Because he’s irrelevant to this team now. There’s no reason to, kind of randomly, bring up a story that bashes him and then continue to bash him yourself.

      • John - Mar 8, 2016 at 1:36 PM

        Regarding Young, I can remember the early success with the LA Express prior to the USFL folding. Unfortunately, he ended up with an incompetent franchise in Tampa early on, then sat behind HOF QB Joe Montana.

        Regarding Warner, he was an unknown grocery bagger who came out of nowhere to head up the “Greatest Show On Turf”.

        Regarding RG3, hopefully he has been humbled and will learn a lesson from this. If he is back in a system like in 2012, he’ll be OK, however if he thinks he can be a traditional pocket passer, that will lead to disaster. Shanahan created a system that best utililized his talents with familiar elements from the college system to slowly develop Robert into a traditional pocket passer. After 2012, RG2 & RG3 decides he was not going to do that and everything went downhill.

        Wherever he goes, he won’t be a starter. His best shot is to be a backup and learn the pro game. That or for to a team with a starter with similar skills, so if the starter goes down, it will be a smooth transition where they won’t have to change offensive systems for him.

        I wish the guy well but realize he has limitations and significant personal issues that will hold him back.

        • Trey Gregory - Mar 8, 2016 at 1:47 PM

          I think the best thing for RG3 would be to sit behind an established guy to work on his craft for a couple years. Doesn’t matter that this is his 5th year. His growth was significantly stunted in Washington and he probably had a lot of learning to do. Unless he made tremendous strides on the bench in 2015.

          I don’t buy into the whole thing about spread QBs not being able to transition to the NFL. But I do believe, in a lot of cases, they probably need a couple years to relearn the position in a stable environment.

          So I think we agree on what’s probably best for him.

          We’re kind of remembering Young differently. He was a high draft pick (kind of) who was cast off and then reborn in a new franchise. I personally think it’s kind of crazy if you don’t think a guy like Tebow or RG3 could go to the USFL and be great. Very different talent pool. But just hearing Young talk about it. He compares himself to guys like Tebow and RG3. Guys with potential but it just didn’t quite work out so they need to keep believing in themselves and look for another shot (I don’t believe that about Tebow but Young does so I added it). There’s a lot of similarities there was my only point. It’s not completely unprecedented for a QB to stumble at first then have success. Like I said, just because someone was once something doesn’t mean they will always be that thing. People can grow and improve. It’s way too early to count RG3 out.

      • John - Mar 8, 2016 at 10:23 PM

        I’m referencing the Steve Young. Perhaps your to young to remember the USFL from the early to mid 1980s. Former Skins, Ricky Sanders and Kelvin Bryant played in that league as well as Jim Kelly, Hershel Walker, Doug Flutie, Bobby Hebert, Anthony Allen and Reggie White.

        Regarding college spread QBs they benefit from the disparity in talent. Just because your good in college is no indication that they’ll make it in the pros. Case Keenum was one of the greatest passers in college history but while he’s been in the NFL, he’s played but he’s no star that teams are falling over each over to sign.

        Regarding Robert, had he played along in the offense that the Shanahans put together for him he would have been fine. When he went into Shanahans office in the offense and told the coach what he would and would not do, he slit his throat. That and fear of Kirk taking his job, warming up before the Cleveland game in 2012 and postgame press conference, same game. He also put himself back in the Seattle game, not Shanahan. Basically a little thin skinned bitch.

        If he is not willing to go somewhere and sit and learn, he’ll flop. The line did not fail him, he did not know what he was doing. Kirk played behind the same line but was sacked a lot less. Roberts brittle body will keep him from succeeding. During 2012, he was concussed, cllbbered and finally went out with the knee.

        For more, you might check out hours 1 and 2 from the drive today. Cooley broke the whole thing down. Robert will sign somewhere but I seriously doubt there are 10-15 teams out to get RG3. More like 4, maybe 5.

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