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Need to Know: Why is it highly unlikely that the Redskins will trade RG3?

Jan 31, 2016, 6:12 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, January 31, 24 days before the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

Why it is highly unlikely that the Redskins will trade RG3

Why can’t the Redskins trade Robert Griffin III instead of just letting him go?

Many fans are asking that questions, wondering why the Redskins can’t get something, anything in return for the player on whom the team spent three first-round picks and a second to acquire just four years ago.

Technically, they can. But it won’t happen and here’s why.

Griffin is under contract with the Redskins for 2016 for $16.155 million. That is the fifth-year option on his rookie contract. It was guaranteed for injury up until he passed his exit physical after the season ended. It is not currently guaranteed but the guarantee will kick back in if he is still on the roster when the new league year begins on March 9. Keep that in mind.

Right now, rosters are frozen until the day after the Super Bowl. Griffin can be cut any time after that date and his salary will come off of the books.

So why not trade him and let him work out a contract with his new team instead of just cutting him? Because players can’t be traded can’t until the league year begins on March 9 and that’s the day his deal becomes guaranteed. No team is going to trade for Griffin along with a guaranteed contract like that.

Could they set something up in advance, give Griffin permission negotiate a new contract with another team, have him sign that deal, and then trade him to that team? Under the rules, yes. But it won’t happen because Griffin won’t want to make it happen on his end.

What is the incentive for Griffin to agree to a new contract to facilitate a trade? The outcome that is to his best advantage would be for him to get released and be able to talk to and negotiate a contract with any of the other 31 teams that might want a quarterback. There simply is no reason for him to limit his options like that. There is no upside for him in that scenario.

Griffin has the leverage here. He can simply wait it out and not answer phone calls originating from the 703 area code. As March 9 approaches, the Redskins will be faced with the choice of releasing him or getting stuck with a backup quarterback at a fully guaranteed $16.155 million salary, a cap hit that would severely hamper their ability to negotiate a new contract with the player they want at quarterback, Kirk Cousins. They will, of course, choose to let Griffin walk.

I suppose you can’t completely rule out anything. But all signs point to the Redskins letting Griffin go sometime between February 8 and March 9 and nothing that makes any sense will prevent that from happening.


—The Redskins last played a game 21 days ago. It will be about 224 days until they play another one.

Days until: NFL Combine 24; NFL free agency starts 38; 2016 NFL draft 88

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  1. Kurtis Green - Jan 31, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    The different in both quarterbacks are that RG3 elevated the play of players around him and Kirk NEEDS elevated players around him to elevate his game. We’re going to regret letting Robert walk. I wonder why the same patience and a full season was not given to Robert. The deception of Jay Gruden will eventually be costly to the skins.

    • Thetruthis - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:06 AM

      Damn! That’s good, Green. Spot on!

      • SkinFANfor25yrs - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:19 AM

        Rg3 had 4 seasons. Not 1 or 2 or 3 but 4 seasons. Made bad decisions that led to injuries. Can’t read defenses and doesn’t own up to bad play. He would rather blame his team.

        • Jamerson - Feb 3, 2016 at 8:52 AM

          He actually had 1 season and he was hit by a defender in the leg after already being down. 2nd season, still hurt. 3rd season, random ankle injury. 4th season, didn’t play. So, your argument is invalid.

    • hitmeimopen - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:16 AM

      In his last preseason game against the Lions RG hardly elevated the play of anyone. The OLine left him out to dry and he was beaten to a pulp. He also clearly turned the wrong way for run-fakes (which fooled no one!) more than once leading to negative plays. So I really don’t know where you got his ” elevating players around him” nonsense.

    • Jeff - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:18 AM

      Griffin was the starter for 3 seasons. I don’t think you live in reality.

    • hitmeimopen - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:21 AM

      To be fair, yes, he did elevate others’ play when he was a threat to run in the ZR option. But that was before his devastating injuries. Alfred Morris benefitted greatly from the threat of RG offensively. The proof is clear now that that threat is gone and the outside zone stuff isn’t really our bread-and-butter anymore. Power running does NOT suit Morris’ style – hence look at his numbers.

    • Kimmy - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:21 AM

      I totally agree with you. To me Kirk Cousins is giving more excuses when things doesn’t go in his favor. Letting Rg3 walk would be a huge mistake.

    • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:29 AM

      The run game and Alfred Morris in particular were just as great as rob in 2012 once shanny started using the read option more. Rob is great at that and the leagues defenses were caught off guard by his abilities and speed. The speed is gone now and defenses have adjusted. It can still work but not as your main offense. Alfred and rob have both been in decline since 2012. Why is it that when rob played the online was garbage but for cousins it wasn’t? Why didn’t rob elevate them? How did rob elevate garçon, Jackson and reed? How many games should the coach “patiently” wait for rob to learn basic qb fundamentals like presnap reads and drop back passing or throwing with anticipation? Why is it so detrimental that we found a qb in cousins who can successfully run a pro offense?

    • troy - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:44 AM

      Your kidding me right? Did you even bother to watch 2013 and 2014?? The whole offense looked sluggish when rg3 was playing. Now 2012 was a different story with a different style offense but don’t say he evelated players in 2013 2014 and in preseason in 2015 because that’s not true at all.

      • brucefan1 - Jan 31, 2016 at 3:44 PM

        HaHa! The offense looked sluggish when ANYONE was playing QB in 2013 & 2014! (Uhhh … correction; it did zip along okay sometimes when COLT was playing.Hey! Imagine how good the offense mighta been if the best QB in 2014 had been allowed to start the entire 2015 season!! ;^}

        Funny thing is, I KNOW there are more than a few commenters out there who would actually agree with that! LOL

        (Dangit!I told myself was wasn’t going to stoop to commenting on ANOTHER RG3 story, as that horse has been pretty much beat to death! But it’s like passing a wreck on the highway — ya just CAN’T turn away. Right??!)

    • cimmerian77 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:58 AM

      ROFL! He was “figured out” after his first season! Cousins is an NFL QB (pocket passer)that can run an offense, consistently! You need to know the difference between being athletic and….being a QB. Give him the “full season” you so badly wanted and he will run nothing but the Redskins into the ground. He had MORE than enough time. He was nothing more than overestimated….

    • troylok - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM

      Be real. The players gave up on RG3. Toward the end, players were dropping his passes and the offensive linemen weren’t blocking for him. There’s a reason why people started calling him RG-ME. No one player is bigger than the team. He and his father dictated to the team how RG3 should be used, and RG3 was the pet of the owner. It wasn’t until the end of his tenure did Snyder start to distance himself from RG3.

      That just has to deal with his ego. His major problem on the field was he couldn’t read defenses in the time an NFL QB has to read them. He could buy time with his legs in the past, but when they tried to make a pocket QB out of him, it became painfully clear that he wasn’t ready to be back there – if he ever will be.

      RG3, if he is smart, will sign a contract with a team that is willing to use him as a scrambler and will not throw him into the fire right away, so he has time to work on his defense reading skills. Going to Seattle, San Francisco or Carolina would put him in position to be in an offense more suitable to his abilities where entrenched starters mean he won’t have to be ready on day one.

      • brucefan1 - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:49 PM

        “The players gave up on RG3. Toward the end, players were dropping his passes and the offensive linemen weren’t blocking for him.’

        Haha! You are so bad, troy — making such an outlandish statement that is obviously dripping with sarcasm toward the anti-Griffin group!! Kinda harsh to them… but I love the humor!

        You probably know I love a jest as much as the next guy, but I really recommend that you throw in an “LOL” or a “smiley”, because there are a few gullible ones here who might think that actually you BELIEVE something so ridiculous!

        If there’s’ one thing I’ve learned about the written word it’s that it is often difficult to express the facetiousness that you’re clearly striving for here, and a little emoticon here & there might make your humor a bit more obvious to all.

        Keep us laughing, my friend!

        • rtcwon - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM

          Fictitious-ness is not a word.

    • Skulb - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:04 AM

      The last time he elevated anything was in 2012. I think the Redskins will be just fine letting him go, just like Atlanta were just fine letting Michael Vick go.

      • Melissa - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:46 PM


    • Matt Duncan - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:47 AM

      Seriously? RG3 was given every opportunity to become the QB in Washington. He clearly could not understand the offense and it showed when ever he dropped back to pass. Even in 2012 the Skins offense looked broken, it just got bailed out by RG3’s ability to run the ball. Now he’s not that fast and NFL defenses have figured out how to shut him down (Kappernick is a perfect example). The Redskins made a huge mistake giving up what they did to draft him but that’s in the past! Let’s move on with the team that just won the division and a QB that could be the face of the franchise for years to come.

    • eagle944 - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:59 PM

      You’re overstating your case. The Redskins started 2012 with a 3-6 record. How much elevating of players around him was he doing during those first 9 games? Then they proceed to go on a seven game win streak, one of those, in Cleveland he didn’t even play. After he was injured, he was not the same guy. Also, Griffin benefitted from the zone read system that froze linebackers and enabled Alfred Morris to run for a team record over 1600 yards! QB is the most dependent position in football. Joe Montana is a great HOF QB, but you know his greatness was dependent upon having Rice, Taylor and Celec to throw to, and Roger Craig and Tom Rathman in the backfield.

      Robert had an excellent rookie year and he deserved his ROY selection, but he may have been a one year wonder. Only time will tell whether he makes the Redskins regret letting him go. You don’t know that nobody does until he goes to a new team.

      • brucefan1 - Jan 31, 2016 at 3:47 PM

        “Only time will tell whether he makes the Redskins regret letting him go. You don’t know that nobody does until he goes to a new team.’

        Truest statement made around here in a looooog time.

    • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:01 PM

      Exactly Kurtis green… We will be taking a step back as a franchise if we let rg3 go because would if kirk cousins struggle next year then what ? Is letting a rookie QB play is a better option ? Or is it a better option to have a guy who been in the system for two years to start if kirk cousins struggle ??? Plus he beat tougher teams with a very average team

      • brucefan1 - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:05 PM

        What you say may be true, money, but how do you think any of that could actually happen? I keep asking you this, but I don’t recall seeing your answer.

        Are the Skins gonna keep him around at the $16 million he’s signed for just in case Cuz falters or gets hurts?

        Or do you think he has some special incentive to resign at backup money for a coach who obviously disdains him (especially if eyewitnesses like Ryan Clark are to believed) & openly disrespects him (especially if Gru’s own admission that he lied to RG — & all of us — about his being the starter are to be believed)??

        Why not at least sign for the best deal he can at a place where he’s wanted and try again there?

        • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:35 PM

          They might have him to rework his contract…I don’t think scot m. Gonna just let him go without having a better option if kirk cousins don’t improve next season

    • Boo Wiley - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM

      Man you hit the nail on the head with this one.

    • Sypherman - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:56 PM

      RGIII had his chance to elevate the play of players around him and he failed miserably. He got lucky his rookie season but once the league figured him out, he couldn’t do jack. He has no clue on how to read a defense and adjust to the situations. RGIII is and will be nothing more than a career backup from this point forward. Only chance he will ever get to start again will be if the starting QB for whatever team dumb enough to sign him gets hurt.

    • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 3:52 PM

      Hmm.,…I wonder why too…not really. I know why, because RG3 proved that he could not run this offense. As a young coach who needs to win now in a win now league….who has time to see if RG3 can grasp the offense, when you already have given him time to at least show flashes that he could? There were no flashes, but regression, so now he had this other QB on the roster named Cousins that actually did the opposite. He proved he could run this offense by actually progressing…how’s that for logic from your coach. RG3 elevated players? Really? The only time he elevated players is with that gimmick read option offense. Kirk actually could find open receivers, and know where to go with the ball whether is was his first, second, or third read. RG3 was one read and done..he got lost in the pocket and didn’t know where to go with the ball. This Jay Gruden deception talk makes absolutely no sense to me….he tried RG3 with his offensive scheme, and RG3 failed so it was time to move on to the QB that could run the offense. No deception that I could detect.

    • DeVel Wilson - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:27 PM

      Wow Green I was thinking the same exact thing. Perfect assessment, I agree 100%. Jay Gruden knew exactly what he was doing. Smh nonsense.

    • ALLBLACK TIZZY 910 - Jan 31, 2016 at 8:20 PM

      U right bruh we gone regret letting rg3 go that if he go…kirk Allright but I dnt see him taking us to the promise land smh…HTTR4LIFE NFC EAST CHAMPZ

    • okieboy918 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:43 PM

      Well said Kurtis! I like Kirk but he is not our best option at quarterback! We’re going to regret the way we treated Griffin.

    • newman - Feb 1, 2016 at 2:54 AM

      I’m not sure what rg3 you watched some his rookie year, but after that one year, I saw a player that threw interceptions, didn’t know the play book, and frankly loomed lost on the field. Who exactly did rg3 make any better? Do you remember his second season when his own teammates were so annoyed they didn’t even help him up after being sacked? The Redskins ate much better without RG Me

    • Mike - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:06 AM

      Lol. He had a few full seasons, played bad and could not stay healthy and got benched. Poor Bob just does not have it upstairs, NOW IF someone wants to run a gimmick offence for a QB who can’t read a defence and can’t stand in the pocket HE MIGHT be the guy.

    • dugferd - Feb 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM

      Tell us how RGIII elevated the play of players around him.

  2. Jeremy Christley - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:40 AM

    Also it should be mentioned that there is no incentive for any team to trade for him. They all know if they just wait till March 9th the skins will cut him and they can negotiate with him without having to compensate the skins

  3. MediaTruth - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:47 AM

    Let him go. Redskins didn’t show any value in him this season so the Skins will get NOTHING for him. Amazing things happen when the people around you believe in you. Let’s see how far a well paid Kirk gets us now that everyone expects so much from him. Oh yeah, and I’m gonna smile the first time RGIII puts up soul crushing numbers against the Redskins. It’s still HTTR! And good luck to RGIII.

    • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:42 PM

      Actually rg3 kept kirk cousins on his toes ppl attend to fall off when they don’t got to worry about nothing entering the season …kirk cousins got better because it was a competition threw preseason believe it or not

      • jhg0325 - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:02 PM

        Def. kept him on his toes when he was in no pads practice at safety with the 3rd string.

  4. goback2rfk - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:53 AM

    This article is informative but the real question is , Why did they pick up his 5th year option in the 1st place?
    Is that not why we are stuck losing him for nothing.

    • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM

      When did they pick up the option? If I’m not mistaken it was back in March when they probably were holding out hope that he would have a pretty decent season. It wasn’t until after training camp and preason where his progress was minimal at best that they decided to move on. Also could just be that Snyder told them too. Not sure if it has since been refuted but it was reported that Scot was ready to cut rob during season but Snyder wanted him to stay on.

      • goback2rfk - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:15 AM

        I wonder if they cut him the day after Super Bowl? Give him some extra time to sort out which team he is going to.

        • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:33 PM

          I don’t think they will unless they figure out who is a better backup QB…they looking at players who gonna be free agents and go position by position…I know they don’t wanna have two rookies backing up kirk cousins

      • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:38 PM

        That wasn’t true that was a false report…if kirk cousins lost that Tampa bay game actually scot m. Told a source that rg3 might start very soon that’s why that Tampa bay game was so huge and that’s why kirk cousins said you like that because he seen multiple reports about rg3 starting again

      • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:35 PM

        I’m pretty sure they picked the option up around May 1st. If memory serves me, they had until the beginning of May to do that. Mind you, they could hold NO Organized Team Activities except weight-lifting the couple of weeks prior. In fact players and coaches aren’t even allowed to talk. (Rich, correct me if I’m wrong here on the CBA rules.) So the option was picked up solely on a gut feel and based on nothing new from the end of the year until the beginning of actual OTAs. Then, everything coming from the park was positive about Griffin through OTAs and up into training camp until B-Mitch blew the whistle at his first visit to TC where he said, “I don’t know why I keep hearing these positive reports. Everything I’ve see is the same.” (paraphrased from memory) That same day, the fight between the Texans and Redskins broke out. So B-Mitch’s remarks were buried.

        As for picking up the option. It was the wrong thing. McC went on the record saying it was a no-brainer. Perhaps, he held a more literal definition of that colloquialism. Irregardless, it’s time to move on from past mistakes.

    • kenlinkins - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:15 PM

      That is the $64 question. Why did the brand new GM pick up the $16 million option that was only guaranteed for injury unless it rolled pass March 2016? What was the thinking behind that move (and did he understand it would limit him if the Head Coach was correct about RG3)? Was it to save money and avoid the $19 million TAG if RG3 did have a great season, or was it to prove to RG3 he was still in the Redskins plans as his head coach seemed to want Cousins as the starter (proving to the HC that he was in charge of the roster)? Was it done right out of the box to keep the owner & HC at bay and out of the GM’s hair. Let’s remember that three GM’s pasted on trading RG3 (Shanahand 2013, Allen 2014 and McCloughan 2015) while he still held value. While each one may have had his own reason, and things changed as time pasted, was there ever a good time to try and reclaim any of the RG3 deal cost? Could one quarter of the 3rd preseason game change the mind of a GM to the point of no return for RG3 or was it everything he saw after the Option vs. everything he saw on tape before placing the Option and naming RG3 the Starter?Is there something missing, something we fans just do not know about. Were there dark forces working against RG3 or did the new GM just make a mistake early on by placing the Option into effect? While bits of things posted on here about RG3 getting a bad deal from the Redskins over all might be true, IMO the bottom line is that the new GM just made a mistake early and he had to live with it as RG3 never showed (at lease to us fans) that he was in fact developing into a $16 million a year starting QB and he allowed sleeping dog to lie as he worked to get the Redskins into the play offs!

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:35 PM

        Pretty sure it was done to help RGIII’s confidence.

        As it turns out, that wasn’t enough and it cost the team flexibility.

        Such is life.

      • goback2rfk - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:06 PM

        It has to be one of the biggest NFL draft fails of all time, right?
        Spend 5 picks on a guy and then release him 4 years later for nothing. It is this kind of thing that continuously sets the organization back. We have not been past the divisional round in the payoffs in over 25 years. Its been a brutal stretch guys, get that sh|t together.

        • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:14 PM

          We actually won that draft redskins won seven straight games and made it to the playoffs rams have been below average even with the 5 picks we gave them…don’t be mistaken rg3 can still play he’s two or three years younger then kirk cousins …like I said before its easy to say get rid of rg3 but is there a better young option out there on the market ????

        • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:16 PM

          Disagree, Mr.moneylover. The draft isn’t about one year, unless:

          1) You think you have a shot at the Superb Owl.


          2) Time is running out (for instance, your QB is 35 years old or so).

          Otherwise, you pay for missing out on all those picks down the road. Which we did. It still would have been worth it if RGIII turned out to be our franchise QB.

          But he didn’t.

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:51 PM

          I’m with Linus (aka Mr. Moneylover). Mr.$ reminds me of that lovable Peanuts character in The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown. So earnest that you hope with him that somehow the Great Pumpkin will materialize before the end of Halloween. I’m rooting for you, Mr. $, I hope your wish (pipe dream) comes true.

          Now, I’m in agreement with him in that we didn’t get nothing for all those picks. We got 2012 and the vision of what could’ve been injury free. Of course injury came and altered everything.

          @ Gobackk: You can’t buy a Ferrari, drive into a Mack truck, fix up the body but replace the engine with a Porsche, slap on a for sale for a ham sandwhcih* sign (but read the fine print) and then complain that no one will offer you a ham sandwich because the fine print says they’ve got to take on the rest of the payments including the cost to get it fixed – in this case $16.1M. When you decided to get it fixed, you weren’t thinking of a ham sandwich.

      • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:28 PM

        Scot m. Said before he stepped into redskins park that he like rg3 and he’s gonna watch every game he played in to see why he got off track after watching the tape then picking up the 16 mill option and they all agree on picking up rg3 16 mill option…and Scot m. Said he’s still a young 24 year old that’s still learning you can’t just give up on young talent all because he went threw a gruesome injury and fell off….Dan synder Bruce Allen jay gruden and scot m. All sat down at the table and they all agree on picking up the option…and some ppl think its tension between jay gruden and rg3 is not its well known both them talk and joked daily and they relationship has improve greatly from what it was last year…all because rg3 ranked the scout team it don’t means nothing because the year before colt McCoy was running the scout team and he turned

  5. troylok - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:00 AM

    Yep, there is not situation where they can get something for him, but let that be a lesson for the Redskins. I don’t know if there is a way to get something under the new rules for a player in RG3’s situation but it would pay to have someone well versed in working the system do a lessons learned review. Of course, the first thing to do is not give up the farm for any one player in the first place…

    • CainCorso - Feb 1, 2016 at 6:12 AM

      As a non skins fan ifeel like you should’ve protected the investment how many linemen vs qbs did yall draft that year?when was the last time a team traded up for a qb just to waste a pick on one 100 picks later?use the eye test. U have an average qb and worse coach who benefited from an underachieving division this past season.I will laugh next season when yall play the other division winners and won’t be surprised if yall go back to last place stop being delusional

  6. Lando Calrissian - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    I ceased being a fan after how they treated rg3. A lot of people ceased being fans after how Doug Williams was done wrong. Kirk cousins had 4 years to “study” and extra help from sabotaging coaches, plus a better team with more weapons and he does exactly what rg3 did his first season. With a few more interceptions. Redskins wasted draft picks; if you’re going to pay that price for the man you have to stick with him but the organization is dysfunctional and has no direction. I burned all my skins gear and am a Carolina fan. I’ll support the panthers now and I was always a fan of Cam. .

    • Matt Duncan - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:54 AM

      Sounds like your more concerned with the color of the QB than his performance.

    • gibbitribbit - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM

      What if panthers lose though? Ya may want to buy a Broncos hat too, just in case

    • eagle944 - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:08 PM

      Good, goodbye front runner! You’re aware Doug Williams does work for the Redskins? If he holds no grudge for whatever you’re referring to why should anyone else?

    • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:14 PM

      Don’t let the Burgundy and Gold door hit you in your arse on your way out…..By the way, get over yourself…if you chose to stay bitter about issues that no longer exist then have fun staying bitter. You can’t go by what ignorant people that like to use social media to make disparaging remarks, because they don’t represent real fans of sports. Real fans of sports see players as players, and don’t bring anything else into it. By the way I’m a Cam fan too, and love the way he plays the position, as I’m sure a lot of skins fans feel the same. Nothing else becomes factors for me for making that statement.

    • DeVel Wilson - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:40 PM

      Lando I’m on the same page with you. Forest time in my life I actually rooted for the skins to lose because of how simply shady this whole thing went down. I’m a human first, fan second.

      • skinsgame - Feb 1, 2016 at 12:39 AM

        Because how what went down? How Griffin stank the place up and feigned injury in the preseason? If you’re such a “Carolina fan”, why are you reading Redskins blogs? Go eat a dong in Carolina.

  7. mrhart76 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 AM

    They should cut him the day after the super bowl. Let that man get on with his career. Stop with the games and get on with it. Kid played hurt and showed heart when he was in there. We quickly forget. Now do him a solid and just let him go. Why not?

    • Ken - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:17 PM


    • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:56 PM

      You are right, but to insinuate the reason for his issues was injury related is just not so. He did show heart by playing hurt, but let’s forget he did it selfishly. Only reason he played hurt was he is a very insecure athlete. He was afraid of competition, and afraid that Cousins would outperform him. When he had to sit against the Browns his first year, and Cousins had that incredible game, his pride got in the way and wouldn’t allow himself to heal properly. This has been his issue throughout his career. His pride gets in they way. Once he can let that go, which may have happened last year sitting on the bench, and he can humble himself, this will help him in his development. Plus, there were no games….this is business. They tried to get something for him, but they understand that won’t happen, so he will get what you are asking for.

      • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:54 PM

        Wrong…the team was just bad around him…he turn that very average team into a playoff team…with the O-line we got now rg3 can give us away better record then 9-7….most of the players who played in that 2012 playoff game is not in the NFL nomore or either playing on a bad team…his agent made him look like a selfish guy by having him in a lot of commercials but rg3 was never a selfish kind of guy… He hooked up some of his teammates with a hover board last off-season the year before that he hooked up the whole O-line with a Xbox 1 even when they couldn’t block to save they life they didn’t block for rg3 not because they didn’t like rg3 but because they was also picking up bad habits by our former O-line coach I think he got fired again and now he’s in Miami with the dolphins this year

        • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:47 PM

          Lol!! It’s always an excuse for the RG3 fans…it cracks me up. I will not return a comment to you because your remarks make absolutely no sense, and reaffirms that you really didn’t read what I wrote.

        • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:47 PM

          Its not an excuse its facts…I’m guessing you don’t follow the team closely and listen to what the players have said in the media…lol…but hey if you think its an excuse Im not the kinda person who care about what you think because I know what the players have said

    • skinsgame - Feb 1, 2016 at 12:40 AM

      Make him wait. His little, tripe letter left in his locker deserves a shot back. Ninny.

  8. timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:31 PM

    Funny how Most of you get on here to talk trash on RG3 but didn’t bother to read or comment on this article

    • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM

      All they are, are stats. I use the eye test…and my eyes saw a QB progress throughout the year, cut down on his mistakes,and become a leader. Stats don’t mention that. Who cares how he completes his passes. The fact is he moved this offense, and made the right decisions while throwing from pocket. For God’s sake folks!! This was his first year of being a starter, and to throw for over 4,100 yards, and have the highest completion %, that is pretty impressive. RG3 in his first year was getting bashed for the same issue about the only reason his completion % was so high was because of the short passes he completed. What’s the difference? None……

      • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:26 PM

        The article says exactly what I’ve bin saying Horrible passing down field. Majority of his passes less than 11 yards. The run game suffers because of this. The guy benifited from a weak schedual and an improved Oline.

        You people keep comparing an injured QB behind a bad Oline to a Healthy QB behind an improved Oline. It’s ridiculous. People compared playing against the backups to playing starters as the same and it’s not. Especially when there are 2 different offenses beingcalled. I heard people making the excuse they are calling manly straight drop backs with deep routes because that’s what he needs to work on. BS he called it so the D could tee off and make the guy lol bad. We didn’t see all straight drop backs for Cousins it was heavy on the bootlegs, play action, and short throws. We’re were your eyes then? Why isn’t Gruden calling for deeper throws? It’s because Cousins can’t do it accurately.

        • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:39 PM

          Ok….that remains your opinion. Tell me how many throws downfield Jackson received when he was finally healthy? Sorry that they don’t go downfield on every pass play, but they prefer the high percentage passes, and keeping the drives and clock going. It’s common sense to me. You seem to see and believe what you want, and that’s fine. I will continue to see, and believe what I want.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:51 PM

          Obviously you didn’t read the article or look at the stats andvideo provided.

          Sorry I would rather take time to develop a great talent than try and start a mediocre talent

        • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:29 PM

          Again…your opinion….your welcome to it…who cares about what people write. I go by what I watch, and don’t need an article, or stats to have me create an opinion about Kirk.

        • Boo Wiley - Jan 31, 2016 at 3:10 PM

          Man you right,they were trying to get him killed.,on purpose.If he was the starter,why put him in game with your own oline out and put cousins in against all that heat and call the same deep route s and get pummeled.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:35 PM

          It’s nonsense like this I just don’t get. I read the article yesterday when you posted so how many more days are you going to do this? The basic conclusion of the article is that cousins is a young and improving QB who may or may not carry that over. We run the same offense as a lot of other teams, New England for example. How many deep routes are gronk and Edelman running? The run game sucked because we lost two starters after week 5 and neither runner was able to make something out of nothing. This improved oline theory is also false. Any improvement scherff and Moses provided was easily negated by long and lerib. Just like 2014, cousins made the line look better with quicker reads. Check the stats on that, it’s there. Your article also calls Gruden a top 10 coach, would a top 10 coach deliberately sabotage a better player? No coach would. You say they should’ve started rob over cousins to develop a talent that hadn’t been seen in two seasons. Why? Cousins was showing it now. The players clearly backed this decision as well. There were no derisive reports coming out. Nothing like the media circus years past where the pr guy had to make excuses for things like players deliberately making noise during an rg3 interview. You rg3 guys are funny with your conspiracy theories. Shanny lied and tried to ruin rob. Gruden lied and took the job knowing he wasn’t going to teach rob, then deliberately tried to get him injured. The media made up lies to make rob look bad for god knows whatever reason. You guys prob think the world is flat and the moon landing was filmed in Hollywood too.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:59 PM

          The Oline was Obviously better at Pass Blocking going from 31st to being top 10 ( ranked even higher) earlier in the season. You say long negated the improvement from the right side? Long have up ZERO Sacks. Most of the sacks from 2013 and 2014 came from the RT and RG. Try looking up the actual stats before commenting.

          The Article pointed out how inaccurate Cousins is over 10 yards and how the team took advantage of a weak schedule and didn’t take many shots down field Wichita Cousin nd can’t do.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:02 PM

          In 2014 Cousins didn’t make the Oline look better he just threw the ball up for grabs before he got sacked that’s why his completion percentage was low and the was throwing picks

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:11 PM

          Right, every time cousins faced pressure in 14 he just chucked the ball. The reduced sacks had nothing to do with him being decisive and throwing quickly as opposed to waiting for the receiver to finish his route. Man we got lucky, fortunately Scot saw everything just like you and is secretly going to cut cousins and keep rg3. I’ll apologize now for my ignorance and concede the argument to you. RG3 in 2016!

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:51 PM

          No the GM Drafted 3 Olinemen replaced the Right side of the line. If the Oline wasn’t an issue why did the GM do this? If it was all the QB why not keep the same Oline?

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:26 PM

          “If it was all the QB why not keep the same Oline?”

          Did they keep the same QB????!!!!!

          What does that tell you then????!!!!!

          Dude, that is your own logic sneaking up behind you with a brick to the head.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:35 PM

          Bang you think there is a pocket on abootleg play that speaks to your football knowledge.

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:44 PM

          That’s funny the tool from NFL network refers to a pocket on the same play in the audio. Forgive me if i used his word. How did the brick feel?

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 8:22 PM

          You said RG3 needed to step up in the Pocket during a bootleg play. Maybe a brick to your head would knock some sense into you.

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 8:30 PM

          Typical. I didn’t think you felt it.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:26 PM

          Come back when you learn how plays work

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:30 PM

          Bang you are like the others. When there are straight stats proving a point ie Cousins lack of accuracy down field or the individual online stats that I posted . You act like they don’t exist and are made up instead of reading them and being unbiased. Try taking a minute from sniffing Cousins jock and look at the facts

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:19 PM

          The author of the article you posted said so himself that stats can be subjective. I would like to see the comparisons of other qbs. How do west coast qbs fair in this stat? Where is it written that the deep ball is the true sign of a great QB? Did you know that Bill Walsh wanted to draft Phil Simms but he was gone when they were up so he instead took a guy by the name of Montana who slid onto the third round due to a “weak” arm. How’d that turn out?

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:27 PM

          Walsh, in his usual outside-the-box perspective, used the analogy of the concert pianist: “Any person who knows how to read music and play the piano has the same basic skills as the most accomplished concert pianist. The difference is the truly unique combination of skill, passion, focus, competitiveness and dedication that separates one from the other.” These are the same attributes it takes to play quarterback in the NFL — and the hardest attributes to isolate, identify and quantify.

          Which of rob and Kirk would people say shows the most passion,focus, competitiveness and dedication? I know my answer.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:30 PM

          More from that same article

          Arm strength has always been coveted in the NFL, with the mandate to hit the out route or fire the ball into the bang route or quick post. But since the advent of the West Coast offense, that perspective has changed a bit. Even the ability to throw the deep ball is more a question of timing than arm strength.

          There is a story of Bill Walsh going to Kentucky to work out a strong-armed prospect from Morehead State by the name of Phil Simms. It was 1979 and Walsh was just beginning his legendary career with the San Francisco 49ers, so he wasn’t considered a genius yet. As Simms progressed through the workout, he started throwing the ball harder and harder, trying to impress the future Hall of Fame coach. After a while, Walsh stepped in and instructed Simms to “try throwing it a little easier.” After a few more tosses, Walsh insisted he ease up even more. “He just kept repeating, ‘easier, easier,’ ” Simms said. “At one point, I thought about throwing it underhand.” Walsh knew Simms had a big arm. What he didn’t know was whether he had the ability to take something off the ball and be more accurate. The 49ers did not have a first-round pick that year, but Simms obviously impressed the New York Giants enough to be taken with the seventh overall selection. Walsh had to settle for taking a quarterback in the third round, with the 82nd pick overall. That player was Joe Montana.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:32 PM

          Who is more dedicated to his craft? I would say the guy who was constantly the last one off the practice field first one there and unlike Cousins while RG3 was 3rd string he was out on the field before games still throwing balls. RG3 always put the time in.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:40 PM

          “More from that same article”

          You must be talking about a different article in this comment because what I posted did not have that or Walsh.

          The point of the article is that Cousins does not throw accurately past 10 yards. I don’t care what offense you run you have to eventually make some accurate passes down field throwing outside the hash marks. Especially past 10 yards. The stats are there.

        • bangkokben - Feb 1, 2016 at 8:54 AM

          Tim, you are the thickest. How many metal plates do you have in your head? I don’t know who Ian Wharton is but at least he has the decency to say that HE charted the passes and put his opinion on them. He decided whether they were completions or not based on HIS opinion as to how accurate the passes were. Who else keeps coming with these type of arguments? It’s clearly too well written to be your pen name unless you’ve “BIN” studying on the side. In that case, good for you.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:37 AM

          Bang you don’t even consider what is written in this article or any stats that show different than what you think to be true. And when you are proven wrong you back Trac and make excuses as to why you said something wrong. IE saying RG3 should step up in the Pocket during a bootleg play. So Sorry I find it hard to take your opinion seriously. Maybe if you start looking at thinks objectively. You will be able to consider someone else’s point of view.

          Oh and study up on some offensive and defensive schemes

  9. cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 12:32 PM

    It makes me laugh a little about those who continue speak about regret for the skins to let RG3 go. We all have opinions about the situation (some I know come from other factors outside of performance) but from what I witnessed from him the past 3 years (injury, or no injury) I saw a QB who had a ways to go in terms of development. Will he be successful with another team (who are we kidding, he is going to Dallas), maybe, but some QB’s either have it or don’t. When healthy he showed me nothing without having to use the gimmick read option offense. He was given ample opportunity to show progress as a classic pocket passer, but he has so many flaws in his game that unless he can change those it will be the same RG3. It will take a very special QB coach/OC to get RG3 to play at this level. What’s even funnier is that even when Cousins showed a markedly improved play as the season went on, there are still doubters about his skills because he only won against “inferior” defenses. I think the coaches got this right in terms of what they are doing offensively, and that was very evident this year. If you still have issues about how RG3 was treated and feel the skins will regret letting him go, then all I can say to you is to just follow the kid to his next team and cheer for them. I will cheer for my skins, and know we have a pretty good QB that is still progressing, and will continue to improve his play, and work hard at his craft to be the best he can. I wish RG3 well because he is a really good person outside of sports, but this is the right decision for this team. It’s just a shame that our previous regime gave up so much for him that pushed our rebuilding back, but now we have a good GM who will put the right players around Cousins, and will rebuild this team the right way to make us consistent winner again.

    • wncskinsfan - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:12 PM

      great comment. Wherever Grif lands will require the whole team,/system to adapt if he is going to be the starter. Hopefully he will get to sit behind an established QB and learn. Romo could be good for that, but his playbook and a playbook suitable for RGIII will be apples and oranges. I think that will be the case almost anywhere. Back to the concept of him landing as a starter. I think the biggest kink in his development in Washington was the lack of competition. Cousins improved trying to get a job. Grif did not improve cus he had the job. Competition in any position is what makes that position strong. I am hoping that Scot drafts a qb than can be coached to provide competition for Cousins. I wish the best for RG3, he has an uphill battle. That being said, I like the new look coming from Washington. It’s a good time to be a fan.

      • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:17 PM

        I think you’re on to something concerning Griffin. He never even played against the twos (second unit) in the pre-season. In 2012, he played just a handful of series. In 2013, he missed the entire pre-season. In 2014, he once again just played a handful of series and then last year played just a few series until the concussion. For a QB that needed development as a pocket passer, this seemed like a poor choice. Even when he played that 3rd pre-season game, he mostly handed the ball off. The nature of the NFL and the coaches reluctance to play the first team in pre-season is not conducive for QBs that need game simulation as part of their development. Conversely, Cousins played a bunch in 2012 as he battled Grossman for the #2 spot. He played all of 2013 both with the ones and the twos, In 2014 he battled McCoy for the #2. And then played the bulk of the games as the two and then once elevated to the one, he had opportunity to throw the ball.

    • goback2rfk - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:14 PM

      Many wanted to see Rg3 play a little this year to confirm he had not developed and still sucked as a mechanical drop back passer. Since he did not get to go at all (regular season) it leaves some speculation that maybe just maybe the 2012 Rg3 is coming back into form.
      Rob’s potential ceiling is higher. Rg3 is the type of QB that can win Championships and Cousins is the type of QB that wins 9 regular season games against a weak schedule. Many believe Cousins has a lower ceiling o potential than Rob. Many might question whether or not Cousins could take the Skins all the way to a Super Bowl.
      At this point I am not sure about Cousins but I can’t wait to see Rob suited up in his cowboys uniform. An ironic and fitting end for the once super star out of Baylor and Heisman trophy winner Rob Griffin III.
      I just wish we could of got like maybe a 4th round pick for him. ah.. oh. well.

      • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:23 PM

        Time will tell……we’ll see

        • sidepull - Jan 31, 2016 at 3:48 PM

          Yup. The very nature of the whole drafting of RG3, the rise to ROY, NFCE division winner to benchwarmer and replacement by a 4th rounder is a story that will continue for years and linger forever in Redskins history. You are right, time will tell. Really that’s the only real constant here. Time.

    • colmac69 - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:10 PM

      Very well said…….your last five or six lines about having proper gm who will makes us consistent winner sums everything up…

      Look we can debate all this stuff all day….people will have different opinions and stick with them regardless

      All fans should understand cousins is gonna b the qb nxt yr and probably nxt 2,3 yrs. He gonna get paid the going rate..u either like it and get behind the guy and the team or go and do something else on a sunday

      • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:12 PM

        Spot on! Not that people can’t get on board kicking and screaming but at some point it should stop – like next September.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:19 PM

          I’m as guilty as anyone with the kicking and screaming, tried to refrain but it’s just so much fun. Should end around FA I’m thinking and certainly by draft so maybe May?

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:33 PM

          It’s funny. I read Rich’s post this morning before taking my daughter back to college and noticed that no comments had been made. Agreeing with the post, I figured it was pretty cut and dry. Then returning seeing 60 and now close to 100 posts. Crazy. Nothing moves the needle like RG3. And of the commenters, a dozen of the posters are firmly in the “This Is the Worst Possible Day for the Franchise,” crowd. WTF? Half of them we’ve never heard from and likely won’t again until that day in February (hopefully not on his 26th birthday) when Griff is no longer a Redskin. The day that Griff is released there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. I don’t know how to break it to Mr. $-lover. Then the kicking and screaming will start for sure. The real Redskins fans will find there way, the others will be rooting against us Super Bowl 52.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:38 PM

          I think that the day rob is cut there will be more than a few posts from money saying that this is all part of scots plan and that he and rob have a secret deal already worked out, there just waiting to announce it. Once he signs with another team tho, look out

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:41 PM

          Of course! I know your right. I had thought that Griff signing might be quick but now with the glut of guys expected to be on the market and few teams needing immediate help that can’t it within the draft, it might be after the draft before Rob finds a new home.

  10. Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM

    Rg3 gotta agree to rework his contract if the redskins wanna trade him because another team not gonna wanna pick up that 16 mill contract…but when I think about it that doesn’t seem like a bad idea but I don’t know if rg3 agent will do so…but for now they wanna hold on to rg3 until they know for sure what’s the backup plan is or it could mean they making progress on kirk cousins contract

    • goback2rfk - Jan 31, 2016 at 1:16 PM

      Maybe Rob will agree to a one year 4.5 million dollar contract and come in and compete with Cousins during training camp for the starting role.

  11. Earl - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:09 PM

    What if Cousins accepts a larger deal through free agency and we let Griffin walk??.. A quarterback needy league may offer Cousins an insane contract… Scott already said he is not going to break the bank for one player…

    I don’t think it’s so simple to assume Cousins is back and Griffin walks…

    Scott will make the right call…

    • cowboyhater - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:55 PM

      It’s called the franchise tag……

    • kenlinkins - Jan 31, 2016 at 2:55 PM

      If the Redskins tag Cousins there will not be ANY free agents offers until next year for him. The Redskins are in control of Cousins. As for RG3, he will be in total control once the Redskins cut him and if they do not by March 9th then RG3 is on the Redskins books for $16 million in 2016. I can not see the Redskins paying $35 million at the QB position in 2016. IMO the Redskins will cut RG3 and then offer him a lower end back up QB deal to stay in DC so they can say they tried to keep him (which he will turn down as there is no benefit for him to take 2nd or 3rd string reps all year behind Cousins). RG3 will end up with a deal about double what the Redskins offer and we will hope it is not with a team on the Redskins schedule in 2016. It is about time we Redskins fans understand that RG3 is water under the bridge and the $16 million option killed any shot he had to stay in DC. Weather or not RG3 asked for the Option or it was the GM’s idea does not matter today. Mistake or not it closed the door on RG3 in DC after Cousins played better then any Redskins QB since 2012. The GM did say that RG3 earned a contract, I just do not think it will benefit RG3 to stay in Washington.

      • unknownskinfan - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:14 PM

        Actually, even if the team puts that franchise tag on Cousins another team COULD offer an insane deal. This would give the Redskins a chance to match or, if they choose not to match, grab 2 first round picks as compensation. Granted, the chances of this are slim to none as I doubt many teams will try and swallow that deal.

        As far as RG3 is concerned, I could only watch and listen as he went through the 2013 and 2014 regular seasons as well as the 2015 preseason. While that line was not the greatest out there, I saw hesitancy. He would look and almost pull that trigger but then see if another route would develop.

        In terms of the 2015 preseason game against the Lions, I can only counter that argument with this: This is preseason. The coaches needed to see if Griffin could get a little confidence in the second of 3 preseason games that he would play. The lack of Trent Williams means nada as if it was the Regular Season there would have still been a replacement. Better to have seen what would have been in case that happened and unfortunately there was the concussion.

        Kirk ended up grabbing that starting job and after a VERY rough beginning of the season seemed determined to let things go and turned it into a 9-7 season and taking advantage of beating the teams they should have beaten (Miami and Dallas 1, notwithstanding).

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 4:49 PM

          First off the Only way teams can offer Cousins a contract is if we use the NON Exclusive Franchise Tag. If we use the Exclusive Franchise Tag than no one else can offer him a deal.

          Second ex Coaches, CMs, and ex players all thought it seemed personal and was ridicules that they didn’t try to roll him and use play action or something to slow the Pass Rush. They had a 3rd string LT in therre that they cut a couple days later.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:13 PM

          Ex personnel can feel however they want, the current personnel thought it refreshing that the player who performed best was awarded the starters position, not the highest drafted or paid one.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM

          When the move was made nobody came out to back it and nobody came out to say it was great to leave a QB in there unprotected. Get your facts straight

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:17 PM

          Fact was gruden said they made change because team responded better to cousins and everything that has happened since has done nothing to disprove that. Is that straight enough?

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:32 PM

          The fact is Gruden was willing to tailor his offense to Cousins but refused to do thesame for RG3

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:35 PM

          The fact was gruden was trying to teach rob an offense that all agreed would be a more viable option for his long term health and sustainability but rob couldn’t learn it.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:43 PM

          But yet all training camp reports came out from the media and Rich Tandler that RG3 looked much better than the other 2. Then when preseason hit it was 2 different offenses being called

        • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:43 PM

          That’s not true jay gruden said rg3 needed the reps…some players thought he was gonna get pulled out because he was getting sack so offen and when jay gruden made the decision everybody said its was the coach decision and we got no choice but to follow kirk nobody agree with jay gruden decision in the beginning… Anybody can look good with the second string players…it was a setup to get kirk cousins to start no doubt about it…scot m. Wasn’t happy about it and I heard after that game they both sat down and had a discussion about it now idk if that was the reason why they pick up that option or not but it can be to make up for what happen to him

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:47 PM

          Not trying to misquote rich but I remember him saying he looked good at times but that there were other times where he didn’t. Also there were multiple multi interception practices for him and more than a few instances were he said rob would’ve been sacked in a real game because he was still holding the ball for to long.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:49 PM

          They picked up the option in May when rob was still the starter, not after the Detroit game money.

    • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:54 PM

      Scot m. Don’t wanna really use a franchise tag cause its to much money….its either use the franchise tag on kirk cousins and not fill the spots we need or get a long term deal done and add players that we need to make our team better….cowboyhater don’t like rg3 the moment he was the franchise guy kirk cousins is his kinda guy if you know what I’m saying

      • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:10 PM

        Now the long term deal will be flexible enough to get out of if he don’t improve year to year….Kirk cousins can easy take that 20 mill tag and say I’m out next year regardless…cowboy hater don’t know what he talking about…he just want rg3 gone I wonder if he knows whose a better option on the market in free agency ???? For the franchise its best to keep rg3 for another year at least in case things go wrong you don’t want to just get rid of a guy and don’t have a Good backup plan…and franchise tag kirk cousins will not be a good look by the front office scot m. Said because you never wanna over pay a guy you want to give a guy what he’s truly earned…have ppl really learned from what happen last year with Brian orackpo he took the 20mill franchise tag but I think he only had 1.5 or 2.5 sacks of the season then when we try to resign him to what he really deserve he was like peace out I’m going were the money same thing can happen with kirk cousins easy because he’s a QB and it will be his second year starting now he got more tape out there of what he’s good at and what he’s not good at

  12. hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 5:27 PM

    A lot has been made about cousins vs winning teams and some have even gone as far as to say rob has beaten some really tough winning teams. Let’s see. Rob has beaten 4 teams that finished with a winning record over his 3 year career. All 4 games were home games. His avg against these teams? 214yds .5 Td .5 int. Put him in the HoF now! Those teams were the 10-6 eagles, 10-8 chargers(1 Playoff win and one playoff loss), 10-7 Vikings (1 playoff loss) and the 9-7 giants. Cousins lost all 4 games against winning teams this year with these avgs. 237yds 1td 1int. Three of these games were on the road. The teams? 10-6 jets, 13-5 patriots, 17-1 panthers and the 11-7 packers. Seems cousins had a far tougher schedule. The biggest difference tho? The run game. In one game(chargers) Morris rushed for 121 yds. In all 4 games for cousins the entire team rushed for a total of 162! In the rg3 games DY rushed for 5 tds combined. In all 4 cousins games there was a grand total of 1 rush td and it was by cousins!

    • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:00 PM

      Passes 20+ yards to the left 38% passes to the right 20% real accurate down feild.

      • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:07 PM

        What’s league avg again? I know it’s in the article. How did that effect his 7.67 yds/att that was 8th best in league?

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:21 PM

          Yards after the catch will make any QB look good

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:30 PM

          Reed was 12th in league with avg 5.2 yac. The next redskins receiver was crowder at 79th in league at 4.4. Hardly the reason.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:48 PM

          Guess those long screen passes had nothing to do with it

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:53 PM

          Well there was the 70+ one from jones for sure, but what else? Is cousins the only QB to throw screens?

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 8:26 PM

          Matt Jones averaged 14 yards after the catch. Yac yards can make a QB look great.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:04 PM

          And jones had a whopping 19 catches for 400+ yds. Not exactly a huge percentage of cousins total and his total yac places him as the 27th rb. That would surely imply that other qbs benefit from those same screen plays. Did you discount their numbers too? If not how is it a fair comparison?

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:10 PM

          Sorry that’s 200+ yds not 400. 263 to be precise and 70 of them came on one play.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:19 PM

          Looks like you have the answer to your own question.

          When other players have high Yac per reception it raises the overall ypp regardless if some of the others were low. 2 other receivers had 7.4 and 7.1

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 10:59 PM

          Right and it effects all qbs the same. Are you saying Rothlisberger is no good because Antonio brown is fourth in yac? Brady because gronk is 5th? Didn’t think so.

      • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:43 PM


        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:44 PM

          They also play well against good defenses

    • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:02 PM

      11-19 yards down field left 61% right 55%

    • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:05 PM

      Against winning teams 20+ right 14% left 40%

      11-19 yards. Left 42% right 45%

      • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:28 PM

        Winning teams he freeze up and play bad…he did improve this year compare to what he was last year but I think ppl bein blind to what top QBs have to do…I just seen somebody say he’s above average QB lol that was funny…he beat all bad teams with losing records but he’s a above average QB…no he’s just average he had 4 year to learn the game while he’s on the bench and he still look like a rookie to me…4 years Aaron Rodgers was on the bench and he came in and took the league by storm and he had big shoes to fill because Brett farve kirk cousins didn’t have no pressure but instead he had multiple chances to take the job and fail…when its all said and done I don’t think kirk cousins will be the answer at QB either

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:32 PM

          Rob also had 4 years only he actually got more playing time. So why didn’t he make any strides? Why are people so intent on explaining away cousins success while also explaining away robs failures.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:14 PM

          Online Ranked 31st in Pass Blocking, Playing injured, play calls that don’t slow the Pass Rush or maximize his trenghts ie bootlegs play action shotgun hurry up.

        • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:06 PM

          What goes into oline rankings? Sacks and pressures? Why is it that the line can run block for rob but not pass block and be exactly the opposite for cousins? Because if you watch rob play you know he waits for the reciever to finish his routes. You know this, that isn’t a new problem for him. You also know his pre snap reads were often wrong and he would often roll into pressure. Rob also had the knack for going to far back in the pocket, into the outside pressure after the ends would ride their man out. You also see cousins excell at the short game because he can read pre snap and throws with anticipation. Sure Compton was horrible and Chester past his prime but rob had plenty to do with the pressure and lerib was god awful for us this year and long was merely serviceable.

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:50 PM

          Play Calling goes into it also When the coach is calling nothing but drop backs with deep routes behind a bad Oline the QB is going to get pushed further back in the Pocket because there is nowhere to step up at. Cousins was getting short route calls and play action. I have game passI’ve seen it. Get game pass and watch the Tape the Oline couldn’t hold a block

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:53 PM

          Why do you expect an injured QB behind a bad Oline to perform better than a Healthy QB behind a good Oline?

          Hell it was Obvious that Gruden was calling 2 different offenses for RG3 and Cousins. Last year and preseason.

      • skinsgame - Feb 1, 2016 at 12:48 AM

        What’s worse is, Griffin still couldn’t unseat him. That’s how lousy Griffin turned out to be.

    • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:11 PM

      394 of Cousins 548 passes were 10 yards or less.

      Cousins was 21/58 on passes 20+ yards

    • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM

      And yet he was able to throw for more yards and tds per game without any threat of a run game to boot.

      • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:18 PM

        That was the cause of no run game

        • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:47 PM

          HA HA HA! That is the funniest rationale. Your so droll. Got to be joking, right?

        • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:21 PM

          When the Defense moves up because of all the short passes there is no running lanes

    • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:50 PM

      Dude you must forgot he tore his ACL and MCL…you don’t really get your explosive speed back in one season unless you a freak like AP…dude played a whole season with a 20 pound back on his knee and broke his ankle the following year now he’s the worst NFL QB in the league… This guy is 25 years old he still a baby in the NFL I’m guessing if kirk cousins got injured and come back and don’t look the same I’m guessing you gonna say release him as well huh ??????

      • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:55 PM

        No. You said Kirk had years on the bench to learn, well where was rob if not on the bench when injured or rehabbing?

      • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:59 PM

        I don’t think anyone is saying Griffin is the worst QB in the league – except maybe Skulb and Any Benoit did have a piece pre-season where he said that, but I don’t see anyone saying that here. And if Griffin wasn’t in an option year that cost the team $16.1M, the debate about releasing him would be different. Griff will be 26 on Lincoln’s birthday (February 12), but he is still a young’n. The problem is the contract. Then again there is what does Rob want?

      • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:59 PM

        The injury issue is another matter as well. They definitely changed rob from a dynamic weapon to his current iteration. However that’s part of who he is now isn’t it? When opponents of him say he’s always hurt and can’t be relied on his backers point out he’s only missed X amount of games to injury but then when he’s criticized for not playing up to par his backers say it’s because he was injured. Can’t have it both ways.

  13. nhskinsfan - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:28 PM

    I miss spoke in a comment on another link. I thought the skins had rights to rg3 to be able to trade him. I was wrong. With that said, I believe they will release rg3 and I believe Kirk deserves at least the amount rg3 would have made. 16 mil is not a lot for an above average qb.

    • bangkokben - Jan 31, 2016 at 6:57 PM

      If Griffin would’ve put up Kirk’s numbers last year, the team option would’ve been seen as genius.

      • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM

        True and if he puts up 75% of cousins numbers next year(3000yds 23tds) for another team some will still scream he was better.

    • Mr.moneylover - Jan 31, 2016 at 7:16 PM

      Huh??? You think kirk cousins is a above average QB??? Wow…I’m sorry to bust your bubble but he’s average still….until he show he can beat a tough team he will always be label as average… They do got rights to rg3 for now but nobody gonna wanna pickup that 16 mill contract he got unless he agree to rework his contract and redskins will probably have to pay half of the 16 mill something like that but a team not gonna want to do that when they know they can get him for free

      • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:33 AM

        Your not busting my bubble at all. Your opinion is yours and it’s ok we don’t agree on this.

        Kirk had a monster year against the schedule he was dealt. I don’t believe he will put those numbers next year but I also hope we have a run game.

        He is absolutely above average 10th in yards. 32 starting QB’s 16 is average. 10th is above average

        Touchdowns-12th with 29, again average is 16

        He was average with int.

        5th? in QBR

        1st in completion percentage.

        He was below average in some stats.

        I know his completion rate was high due to short passes but why does Tom Brady get a pass on this when he one of the best of this era? If you not willing to say Tom is above average and not one of the greats then your dislike for Cousins is blinding you and there is no reasoning with you.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:54 AM

          The reason Tom Brady gets more slack is because
          1. He is doing it with less weapons
          2. Tom Brady throws down field more and with accuracy
          3. He has beaten teams with good defenses
          4. Tom Brady can put a team on his back and win games

          It makes me laugh that people have the Gaul to even try to compare Cousins to Brady

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:33 AM

          Tom Brady threw it down the field 12 more times than Kirk this year.

          People compare Tom with Kirk because when Kirk haters speak up and use stupid stats like he didn’t throw down the field a lot and a 1st ballot hall of famer did the same thing while Kirk is a below average to average QB at best it just shows that your bias towards Kirk is unwarranted.

          The Redskins might have their franchise QB on their hands. Tom’s first 3 years were not that great. Worse than Kirks first year as a starter.

          NOW TO BE CLEAR: I AM NOT SAYING KIRK IS A HALL OF FAMER. TOM BRADY IS A HALL OF FAMER. I am using a Hall of Fame QB to show you what you don’t want to see, and that is Kirk is on a good projection.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:53 AM

          Who is Tom Brady’s deep threat? And he still threw down field more times with accuracy. I will take time to give you the same chart for Brady the article supplies if you wish

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:01 AM

          What’s a catchable pass? Is he the statistician for the NFL? Is his opinion relevant outside of this article?

          Does Kirk need work definitely. Every QB needs to work on their craft to continue to excel in the NFL. Even gifted QB’s can fail if they don’t continue to grow.

          Why are you so angry about Kirk? Why do you want him to fail? Your a very confusing Redskins fan.

          He has shown a crap load of growth over just this year alone. I’m excited for the future of the skins. I thought every fan would be.

          You should let your anger go man. It will do you wonders.

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:08 AM

          Tom Brady has Gronk. I will trade Jackson for Gronk without blinking an eye.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:18 AM

          I don’t have anything personal against Cousins. I see flaws that he has not corrected and don’t want to anoint him till I see otherwise. I don’t go into anything blindly.

          Why do you Continue to compare an injured player behind a bad Oline to a Healthy player behind a good online? It’s apples and Oranges.

          The stats are there that provewhat I write why don’t you even consider them?

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:30 AM

          My first statement to this is you are not being truthful if you believe Cousins hasn’t been fixing his issues. The last what 7 games of the year the guy played lights out. Guess what the strength of schedule didn’t change all that much if any from the beginning of the year to the end.

          As far as injuries go. Your point is RG3 was injured right? He was apparently injured a lot. I don’t want my QB to be injured a lot.

          2014 RG3 had 4 touchdowns to 6 picks. Sacked 33 times. Cousins sacked 8TIMES, same line! 10 touchdowns to 9 picks.

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:35 AM

          Now you gotta answer my questions.

          What’s a catchable pass? Is he the statistician for the NFL? Is his opinion relevant outside of this article?

          Are there other articles to back up this guys claims?

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 2:42 PM

          If you would have read the article it says he got his stats from pro football reference

  14. smotion55 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:35 PM

    The real mistake was Roberts From the moment he told Trent Williams not to tell Coach he was hurt and Lied to coach in the Playoff game against Seattle and all the bull -hit that followed.
    All in for week one, the Documentary on his recovery demanding to take plays out of the playbook and telling Shanahan he was a pocket passer, and not studying film and on and on and on more BULL-hit. He was self serving and until a real GM came in and cleaned up all the Drama this young man created including all the BS leaks to the media HIS TEAMMATES WERE SICK AND TIRED OF HIM WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU CRYBABY RG3 LOVERS. He is injury prone and will never be more then average at best. With all of his injuries and track runners build he will not hold up, even if he humbles himself learns how to slide and run out of bounds without taking a major hit he will not hold up. 2012 was Great as a fan until he lied and went back in the game. KIRK won 2 of those 7 in that streak in case you guys forgot. If you were real redskins fan you would quit whinning and Hope for the best for this young man. The sooner he leaves the last of this bull sh-t will hopefully end . THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDING ROBERT IS MOVE ON. He could not even clean out his locker without leaving that crap in their for a slight against the team. When he finally leaves he will write a book or stur up the bullsh-t again most likely. My real hope for him is to keep his mouth shut= go to a team learn how to be a real teammate ,study film, learn how to slide, get down and or out of bounds and leave his mouth, twitter , stupid sayings and his brand at home with the wife and kid PERIOD.

  15. John - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:39 PM

    Rg3 will be gone soon, plain and simple. All last off season he talked of how winning teams like Seattle supported Russell Wilson. They picked up his option, named him the starter and then he showed no progress.

    Ask yourself this, did the Skins move the ball consistently with Robert in the game in 2013 and 2014? No! How was the offense in the RedZone in 2013 and 2014? Ineffective!

    Some like to think Griffin was not given a chance. He was given plenty of opportunities. He never took advantage of them. He was named the starter last February, but when training camp came around, he did not perform. There was an unspoken competition all along. None of the QBs performed all that well in 2014, so there was a undercover QB competition in camp this year. Kirk won and held up during the season.

    For those that say Gruden ran different offenses for Robert and Kirk, that’s nonsense. Robert looks lost in a pro style west coast offense. He has no pocket presence. He makes one quick read and runs for the hills often running into linemen, trying to block for him. Gruden with his job on the line based on what he and the coaches had seen in practice (the part that reporters don’t see) as well as preseason games, decided to move on. He took what people thought was a big risk with Kirk and came up smelling like roses.

    Some like to say based on stats that the line played better for Kirk. In some sense they did. Allen drafted Long and Moses. Sherf was drafted by Scott M and Leribus by Shanahan or Vinnie. They were an upgrade over the previous group but the other group was better suited to zone in the run game. It should be noted that Kirk was sacked less when playing behind the same line in 2014. Why, Kirk makes his reads and gets the ball out throwing the ball to where the receiver is supposed to go. Kirk also moves into the pocket to help the linemen. Robert failed in both of those aspects of being a pocket passer.

    For those that complain that Kirk did not throw enough deep passes, where was his deep threat most of the season? Last I recall Jackson was out with a hamstring for much of the season. Garcon and Crowder are not home run threats..when they had Jackson, Crowder, Garcon, Reed and Thompson in the game, they performed at their best. This team has a good group of receivers but none is great alone, they are all interdependent. In a west coast scheme, you throw to complement the running game. Short passes equal runs and the idea is to hit receivers in space to get extra yards after the catch. In any case, you take what the defense gives you. This team does not have the weapons to dictate to the defense. Few teams do.

    Given the opportunity, Kirk performed. He started slow but finished big and without the benefit of a running game. He broke team records and led the team to the playoffs. While they did not beat any “good teams”, they beat the “bad teams”. I thought your supposed to beat the bad teams, oh wait, that only counts if RG3 or any other quarterback is on the field. You play the hand your dealt. If your schedule has a bunch of losing teams on it because your team sucked the previous year. Beat as many bad teams as possible.

    Kirk has his issues but most of those are correctable. For RG3 to succeed, he’ll need to go to a team that will build an offense that fits his skill set. Unfortunately most teams won’t adapt for 1 guy. In that case RG3 will have to man up and learn the pro game or be a career backup at best, bouncing from team to team.

    Enough whining about RG3 getting a raw deal. If you don’t perform, you get pushed out, just like any other job.

    • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:09 PM

      Agreed John, well said

    • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 5:27 AM

      You act like Cousins played great in 2013 and 2014. Hell Cousins was Healthy and played bad behind the same Oline. 2013 Cousins threw picks against the worse Defenses in the league and lost each game he played.
      In 2014 Cousins threw picks and had a low completion percentage before being benched and dropped back to 3rd string. Lost every game he started.

      • bangkokben - Feb 1, 2016 at 8:59 AM

        You really ought to welcome yourself to the present. Robert is no longer in 2012 and Kirk is no longer in 2014. When you realize it’s 2016, then you deserve a response, until then you are Rich’s longest tenured troll.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:47 AM

          Bang this is what you resort to when you don’t have a response when someone is right. It’s 2016 and you still haven’t taken time to study Offensive and Defensive Schemes so you have a clue of what’s going on.

          I have yet to see an intelligent rebuttal from you on anything that I have posted

        • bangkokben - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM

          As soon as you have something intelligent to write about, then there can be a rebuttal. Until then, there is no need. You found one Redskin fan that thinks like you who happens to have a place at bleacher report. Good for you but don’t presume that this is anything close to evidence for your position. Don’t you have your own spot on the internet to “debate” these things. Why are hijacking Rich’s blog?

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM

          This is absolutely the hardest thing for some fans to understand. I loved RG3. I was a big fan and wish nothing but the best for RG3 unless he stays in the NFC East.

          When fans are unwilling to see progress in Kirk while RG3 showed none is ridiculous. It’s a bias that I can’t understand. No Kirk isn’t immune to criticism. No player is but you can’t say RG3 is great and Kirk is at best average when their play says differently.

          I think with time RG3 can learn the pro system and do well.

        • bangkokben - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM

          Well said. That bias is so obvious except to those who hold it.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM

          You are comparing an injured player behind a bad Oline to a Healthy player behind a good Oline. The only way you may be able to compare them on somewhat equal footing is 2013 and 2014 when they both played behind a bad online.
          RG3 was injured and played average in 2013 Cousins healthy played bad.
          2014 RG3 injured again played bad Cousins Healthy Played Bad.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:50 AM

          The Bias is by people who ignorantly judge an injured player behind a bad Oline to a Healthy player behind a good online

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:09 AM

          That is a lot of unhealthiness from one player.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM

          That’s 2 years.
          One playing with a brace 2nd year in a system and played average
          One coming back early from a dislocated ankle first year in a system played bad. Like everyone else that year.

        • nhskinsfan - Feb 1, 2016 at 11:31 AM

          So he was unhealthy got it. You keep making that point and I think it hurts your argument more. If your QB can’t stay healthy then he is no good to your team. Just ask Romo and the Cowboys.

      • John - Feb 1, 2016 at 7:21 PM

        From what I recall, Kirk showed flashes in 2013 with some turnovers but also big numbers against Atlanta. Had they not opted to go for 2 at the end of the game, they could have forced overtime with a kick. Coach blew that one.

        No picks in the Dallas game they lost by 1.

        Don’t remember much of the season ender against the Giants. Pretty bad performance by both teams in that one.

        Keep in mind the team was well out of contention if not totally out of it prior to Kirk going into the last 3 games, so 3 wins would not have made much difference in the standings. How many players were putting out the effort at that point? Kirk
        Being the backup would not have had any work with the starters prior to those games. Backups normally run the scout team and get few if any reps with the first team during the season. So that would explain timing issues, much like at the start of the season.

        In regards to 2014, they blew out the Jags in the 2nd game 41-10 (2tds, 250 yds, 66%, no ints, completions to 8 receivers), Philly loss 34 – 37 (427 yds, 3tds, 1 pick, 7 different receivers, 62%) defense must have missed the bus to Philly. Giants game 14 – 45 loss, the interception game everyone harps on (4 ints, 1 TD, 257 yds, 57%) Larry Donnel looked like Jordan Reed in that game defense sucked, offense was behind the 8 ball and Kirk pressed and in the process threw a bunch of picks. They lost the 2 following games but they were not necessarily on Kirk (ex: lost to Seattle by 10 but it should have been far worse as 3 TD bombs to Harvin were called back). Arizona game he put up big yardage numbers but threw some more picks. Tennessee his confidence was going into to toilet and he got pulled. McCoy threw one pass that Garcon beat his guy off the line on a hitch or screen and took off for a TD.

        Fast forward to this year. Kirk has a solid camp. RG3 comes in and shows no real change from previous seasons after being coddled in the off season. RG3 goes out with a concussion. Kirk is named the starter for the season. He starts slow and takes off starting with the Tampa game. Big improvement over previous seasons, breaking long standing team records. It just happens its a contract year and he killed it, so he’ll get the big bucks. Next year he should do better with the monkey off his back and having the opportunity to start out of OTAs and camp with the starters. Like it or not he’s the starter. He’s not Brady or Manning in their prime but then he’s still learning. As I’ve said it takes 2-3 seasons of playing regularly to really be on it.

      • John - Feb 1, 2016 at 7:32 PM

        You continually ooit out the O line thing. They both played behind the same O line in 2013and 2014, yet Robert got sacked more often per attempt in the same offense, same plays. Robert has no clue in the pocket. Takes off when he should slide a few steps to avoid pressure. Line has no idea of where to block when that happens.

  16. jhg0325 - Jan 31, 2016 at 9:57 PM

    The area code to avoid would be 301 or 202.

    • Rich Tandler - Feb 1, 2016 at 5:42 AM

      Well, no. 703 is Northern Virginia, where Redskins Park is located. They do no business in 202 and are in 301 ten times a year.

  17. wncskinsfan - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    Thinking on it, and now that a few chips have fallen (pun!) . . I could see RG3 in San Fran. Put him behind Kaep competing in a Chip Kelly system. It’s a fit that I can see making sense. Although there might be a real interest in Dallas, I just don’t see him working in that system. He and Kaep, I think, could work a similar playbook. Him and Romo, not so much.

    • hail74 - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:10 PM

      I hope he goes to KC because I think Reid would be the best coach for him.

      • timwillhide - Jan 31, 2016 at 11:59 PM

        The smartest move for RG3 is to go to Denver. They run the same system as Shannahan so he already knows the Offense which is a lot of bootlegs, play action, and hurry up. Which he excels at.

        • John - Feb 1, 2016 at 8:42 PM

          He won’t end up in Denver. If anything he’ll end up in Cleveland or perhaps Frisco. Robert is an injury waiting to happen.

        • timwillhide - Feb 1, 2016 at 10:07 PM

          Exactly why won’t he go to Denver

        • John - Feb 2, 2016 at 9:56 AM

          Didn’t seem to be able to do that here in a west coast system. Kubiak is another west coast coach. Oh but he’ll have to throw short, something else to whine about. All he’s going to do is take up salary space buried on the depth chart of some other team. Its over with for him.

  18. skinsgame - Feb 1, 2016 at 12:54 AM

    Let him eat cap space on another team. Good riddance. It’ll be nice to see him scramble into sacks and miss wide open players downfield as he holds the ball forever, frozen with indecision. He was a flash in the pan, sadly.

    • John - Feb 1, 2016 at 5:41 PM

      Well said. Hard to see how some folks think that he’ll take the league by storm, once he leaves DC.

  19. Dexter - Feb 1, 2016 at 5:11 AM

    Wow! What a shame to see Griffin go down like that! And it’s all because of that knee injury that has thrown of his mechanics! Never fully recovered physically and definitely not Psychologically!

  20. warpath1 - Feb 1, 2016 at 12:50 PM

    Wow!!! Thats alot of posts. Are Polo and Bust back

  21. Joseph Pinnisi - Feb 13, 2016 at 10:14 AM

    Go back to the 2014 season and listen again to what the linebackers of the 49ers had to say about RGIII.
    Athletes, even superior ones, are not NFL Quaterbacks! (Examples; Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, C.Kapernick, RGIII and Heath Schuler, there’s more) but the point is, you can be an “Athlete” and play the position but do you have the credentials to forefill the job title (team leader)? I never saw that.
    RGIII has not only proven he does not but now comes with a disfunctional package of injury (PRONE) mentally defeated (hence the 49ers linebackers comments) and the cherry on top of the icing, is that he refuses to humble himself. Which, by the way, was the very reason for the 2014 loss to the Seattle Seahawks playoff game. He could of taken himself out of the game (which is what a good QB would have done) to allow his team to win the game. No, (he) and not the coach (Shanahan) made the selfish,prideful decision to stay in the game so Seattle achieved the goal of making the Redskins, “One dementional”!….spells loser to me.
    Now…..this is (MY) assessment of this (DRAMA). I am not arguing, fighting, disputing or trying to be “right”. This is how I see it.
    If you are going to get upset or try to humiliate my view, feel free…P.S. I agree with most sports analysts, RGIII is a great person. I hope there is a fit for him somewhere. He does deserve an opportunity….but not in Washingtin. He was brought to high to achieve so low statistics. Couple that with 2 (solid) losing seasons after that…well, one has to do the math.<which I suck at! Archives

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