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A simple answer to the Redskins’ home vs. road mystery

Dec 1, 2015, 9:30 AM EDT


It’s been a feast and famine season for the Redskins. Everyone knows it. They eat well at home. The Redskins are 5-1 at FedEx Field with five straight wins after a season-opening loss to the Dolphins (which gets to be more of a head-scratcher as the season goes on). On the road, they starve, with a record of 0-5.

Rarely does a press conference or locker room media scrum go by without the subject of the home vs. road records coming up. It’s been the subject of countless blog posts and talk radio segments. But the disparity between the Redskins’ home and road record is no great mystery. In fact, it’s pretty simple.

By almost any measure, they have played better teams on the road than they have at home—much better, in fact.

Let’s look at the simplest measure of a team’s quality, their win-loss record. The six teams the Redskins have played at FedEx Field are the Dolphins (4-7), Giants (5-6), Eagles (4-7), Bucs (5-6), Saints (4-7), and Rams (4-7). That comes to an aggregate record of 26-40, a .394 winning percentage.

On the road, they’ve gone up against the Patriots (10-1), Jets (6-5), Giants (5-6), Panthers (11-0), and Falcons (6-5). That rolls up to at 38-17 record, a .691 winning percentage.

In short, the average road opponent is 8-3. The average home opponent is 4-7. It doesn’t take an advanced degree in football analytics to figure out the Redskins’ road schedule has been brutally tough while the home schedule has been relatively soft.

But if you want to dive into some other measures of how well or poorly a team is playing, let’s do it. Here some other stats with the average of the Redskins’ home and road opponents in each of them.


*Through Week 11

The last set of numbers may explain Kirk Cousins’ great split in his performances at home and on the road. At FedEx Field, facing pass defenses that are worse than average (the average NFL passer rating is 88.4) Cousins has 74.7 percent of his passes with 12 touchdowns and two interceptions and a passer rating of 113.0. Playing on the road against pass defenses that are better than the norm in the league, Cousins has completed 61.9 percent of his passes, thrown five touchdowns and eight interceptions and posting a passer rating of 69.8.

The Redskins will go the rest of the regular season without playing a quality team at home. Their two remaining home opponents are the Cowboys (3-8) and Bills (5-6). That’s a winning percentage of .364. If they make the playoffs they likely would host a team that would test their home-field advantage but we will see about that down the road.

But if they finish the season winless on the road, they won’t be able to say they lost to all quality opponents. If they can’t get a win in Chicago (5-6), Philadelphia (4-7), or Dallas (3-8) you can genuinely say that something isn’t right when this team hits the road. In fact, it would be fair to question their roadworthiness if they don’t win two out of those three.


  1. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Dec 1, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Road warriors, come out to play-ayyyy!

    • colmac69 - Dec 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM

      Great film……..incidentally actor who said that was same guy arnie dropped off cliff in commando (useless bit trivia)

      Look at it another way if u take the team record of the opponent when skins played them it bout 24-3

      Patriots (7-0),,,jets (4-1),,,,atlanta (4-0),,,,,carolina(9-0)…..giants (0-2)…..

      Def played hard schedule away from home and numbers show it

      However we win our last two home games and one away(esp eagles or dallas) that b 8-8 (with 4-2 div rec)……that mean Nyg going 4-1 and can’t see that happening…..depending on results 8-8 may even get wildcard but prob unlikely (think 9-7 will get u wildcard )

      Nice to b in consideration for playoffs and even the perception of redskins seems to b changing slowly in some quarters when u watch/listen to TV or radio

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 12:16 PM

        Same story for the Redskins for the past month – win the next game. They have “controlled their own destiny” for that entire period of time because NY or Philly or whoever was ahead of them lost games while they lost games to the Patriots or Panthers. Now that they are first they simply need to do what the others could not and with the strength of their schedule behind them, I like their chances.

      • hail74 - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:26 PM

        I agree. For a couple weeks now Michael Irvin has been trumpeting Gruden as doing a great job and yesterday Brian baldinger was giving some love to our offense.

  2. bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Agreed. I’ve been saying the same thing for weeks but this kind of “logic” falls on deaf ears if you simply want a reason to replace the coach. And even though, the results are what’s important, it is a bit disconcerting regarding the “how did they play” on the road. Once again, the answer is in the competition as well as other obstacles found on the road such as but not limited to the “home cooking” most good teams get – completely coincidentally – from the guys in stripes.

  3. bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    First time in three years that we have meaningful games in December and where are all the Redskin fans? No talk about who to take with the 21st pick? Do you realize it is still possible to get the #2 seed in the playoffs? That is a more likely scenario than drafting a QB in the 1st round, next year.

    Did anyone see that interesting stat about Russell Wilson, Sunday? Prior to Sunday’s victory, Two Brands of Sporting Goods was 0-12 when the opposition scored 25 or more points. Great game by Two Brands but I wonder if Seattle fans point out how bad Pittsburgh’s secondary has been. Probably not. Why would they?

    • hail74 - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:29 PM

      Actually I had mentioned that on here after the pats game and one of our regular skeptics, who wants bevel as our couch ironically, tossed that out as irrelevant.

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 3:14 PM

        They must be keeping the coals warm at son of whatever.

        • ajbus1 - Dec 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM

          Lol! Yous guys are funny. Wonder where that guy who beats the bevell drum has been?

    • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:56 PM

      I would dare and say that the fans that do not like Gruden are in the closet Rg3 fans and solely hate Gruden for his treatment of Rob. Gruden trashed Rg3 and stuck his butt on the bench in street clothes.
      Is it Gruden’s performance that is not liked?! Or is it because of Grudens treatment of Rob?! Thats my question to all the Haters out there.

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 3:12 PM

        That is a good question. The old taking up offences for other’s perceived injury. Classic American emotion. Here’s an “interesting” article that vaguely touches on how Gruden is perceived to currently relate to the former starter.

        • hail74 - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM

          Thanks for the post, it’s so nice to read positive stories about the team after all the rumor mongering of years past. Kind of shoots a hole in the players not buying in or Gruden will be gone next year theories though.

        • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 6:27 PM

          Those theories have always been based in certain fans hopes. They have then been parroted by fans with similar hopes. There has been plenty of opportunity for there to be leaks coming out to give “credence” to these theories but anything that I’ve seen reported has been along these lines. Of course, when I’ve mentioned this in the past, I’ve been asked for citations which I’ve obliged. None from the other side, though. You may even remember a certain poster last week requesting Rich to write a similar piece to Keim’s except showing ALL the OBVIOUS reasons Gruden is a bad coach.

      • hail74 - Dec 1, 2015 at 4:54 PM

        I still don’t get what gruden did wrong with RG3. After a loss RG3 came out and said he can’t do it all by himself, tossing everyone else under a bus.when asked to respond to that Gruden pointed out Griffins flaws and said ” Robert needs to worry about Robert”. There were plenty of rumors about locker room discord over preferential treatment of griffin and of general disdain for him well before Grudens arrival. Could be those rumors were true and that Gruden won over the rest of the team for calling out Robert. Who knows but if griffin can dish it out then he should be able to take it as well. Which to his credit he seems to be doing.

  4. captblood3000 - Dec 1, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    If 8-8 wins the division (as I think it will), the Skins have to win on the road. The Cowboys will start Matt Cassel at QB, they haven’t won a game without Romo. The Iggles also have QB problems, and Chip Kelly may be on the way out, though Kelly’s problems may stem from thinking he’s a personnel genius (sound familiar?) Da Bears have Cutler at QB, and you never know how He will play. Cutler could decide to challenge D. Hall again. So there are 3 opportunities for an average team to win a game on the road.

    • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 11:19 AM

      The Redskins will win at least nine and if they win Monday night, I like their chances to win out. Cutler will throw the ball up for grabs – especially to Jeffery – and if the Redskins intercept it, he’ll keep on throwing it up for grabs. The Bears have won 3 out of their past five, host SF next, before hosting our Redskins. They then have road games at Minnesota and Tampa before finishing with Detroit at home. So a 6-6 Bears team at their place with a potential wild card spot on the line is a challenging match up, but if there is a game to lose, this is it since it has no bearing on tie-breakers being an “un”common game. (Provided, of course, that the Giants lose a game.)

      • skinsgame - Dec 1, 2015 at 9:47 PM

        I hate the Bears. Since 84. I hate ’em. My ex’s family is all from Chicago and they will be thinking of me during that game. Even though we’ve been divorced for 15 years, we’ll all be rooting extra for our teams. I’d love to see the Redskins clobber them.

    • hail74 - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:34 PM

      Former Seahawk Michael Robinson on Chip Kelley’s problems.” The nfl is about jimmies and joes, not X’s and O’s. You can scheme it up in college but not always so in this league.” Again, some on here who know more than actual players would disagree.

      • brucefan1 - Dec 1, 2015 at 7:18 PM

        A Chip Kelly mention! Whoda thunk it?!

        Can anybody else see Kelly coaching the Titans next season with Mariota as his QB?! All the stars seemed to be aligned for that possibility.

  5. redskinscaio - Dec 1, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    I can’t believe we’re talking playoffs in December! To play Monday night against the Cowboys with the playoffs and the division on the line is incredible. Can’t wait for Monday. HTTR

    • crussell75 - Dec 1, 2015 at 6:39 PM

      Yeah I’ve already got the adrenaline running for Monday Night. That place is going to be F-ING CRAZY!

  6. davidfchandler - Dec 1, 2015 at 11:52 AM

    Not to mention that when they played Atlanta they were undefeated at the time and when they played the Jets they only had 1 loss.

  7. shermanp79 - Dec 1, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Our home record shows this team has improved. The past few years they haven’t won much anywhere but not at home either. I get so frustrated with some fans who act like ” HATERS” and want Cousins and Gruden gone. It appears some have changed but too many still remain. This team has a chance to go beyond our hopes starting out, so lets support them….EVERYONE!! I think Gruden has the team going forward and if he takes this team beyond expectations then the “HATERS” will have a hard time finding any argument of letting him go.

    • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:37 PM

      There are still quite a few RG3 fans out there that can not stand to see Cousins making plays. Every big play Cousins makes is another nail in the once superstar out of Baylor Rob Griffin III casket. Its not hard to see that Cousins has better QB mechanics than Rob. Cousins is not as athletic as Rob but it certainly can be argued that Kirk is the better QB all around. I have to say that I once was a BIG Cousins / Gruden doubter but Kirk and Gruden have done many things this year to make me believe otherwise. Especially Kirk, who at one point in this season looked like a lost cause. If he c
      There are a lot of QB positions that will be open come next season and Rob will get his chance to win a spot come next year. I just hope he stays in the division so we get a chance to crush Rg3.

      • jonevans511 - Dec 2, 2015 at 12:09 PM

        goback- If there are in fact “fans” who actually hate to see Kirk making plays, then you hit the nail on the head when you call them “RG3 fans”. There’s no way you can claim to be a Skins fan and actually get MAD when the starting QB plays well- whoever that QB is at the time. The thought that people act this way disgusts me, and reminds me of some Panthers “fans” I have heard from recently who are upset with their QB because…… well, I won’t speculate. Maybe he’s too cocky, maybe he dances too much (huh? lol) , maybe he’s not Tom Brady so in their minds he’ll never be good enough. The fact of the matter is Cam helps the Panthers not just stay in but win games, and Kirk (at least at home) has been doing the same. As soon as the team, not just Kirk, gets over their road woes, I think we’ll see a well-rounded QB who makes enough plays to keep us competitive and from time to time will make fantastic plays to win us games both at home and away.

  8. bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    The odds are out and the Redskins have a 53.9% chance of winning the division.

    Team W-L DIV WC TOT
    WAS 5-6 53.9% 0.9% 54.8%
    NYG 5-6 27.9% 1.5% 29.4%
    PHI 4-7 16.0% 0.0% 16.1%
    DAL 3-8 2.2% 0.0% 2.2%

    • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:17 PM

      Lets take this sh|t one game at a time. I would love to get back to .500 next week against the Girls.
      If you would have asked me at the start of the season if 6 and 6 after 12 games was good I would have said hell yeah I will take 6 and 6 any-day of the week given that we were “supposed” to be one of the worst teams in the league this year. The only bad thing is our draft pick is getting further and further away from the top. As a Skins fan I am so used to picking early in the 1st round.
      Can’t wait to see what they do with Rg3-and-out now that Cousins appears to have a strangle hold on the number 1 spot.

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 3:13 PM

        Agreed. One game at a time but I like the five week forecast.

      • ajbus1 - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:03 PM

        I’m with you. It’s nice to know that even Vegas is giving our Skins their due but I feel like we’ll jinx it if we get too excited.

        • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:18 PM

          2nd time all year that the ‘skins are starting the week as the favorite. Don’t worry about that jinx stuff. We Redskin fans are going to have to learn to deal with success and not fear it. Do you think in the 80s that we felt we couldn’t revel in being in 1st place without the fear that we we’re going to upset the football gods? Expletive No! Expletive the football gods! Of course we need a little more of a track record to

        • ajbus1 - Dec 1, 2015 at 6:59 PM

          You’re right about learning to deal with success. I’m just so used to getting my hopes up and getting confident about the team only to have the Skins crap the bed. This team definitely has as much fight as I’ve seen out of any Skins squad in awhile. Maybe this season will be different. Come to think of it, it’s time the football gods smiled on us! WE WANT DALLAS! HTTR!

    • captblood3000 - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:33 PM

      ESPN also published percentages, though I don’t know the assumptions behind their simulations. The order was the same but the percentages were like 39, 32, 24 and 5. This gives the Cowboys too much credit: they almost have to run the table with Matt Cassel at QB. And the Iggles just got blown out by Detroit.

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 6:17 PM

        Not sure about those odds either. The ones I cut and pasted are from Football Outsiders based on them running ‘thousands’ of simulations based on all of the teams current DVOA.

  9. kenlinkins - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Rich, I am having a tuff time trying to place a label on this Redskins team. Are they a talented young-developing team, a well put together team that due to injury could be sitting 9-2 instead of 5-6, are they a team that has found a QB who is just starting to learn – lead them to the play offs, A team that is one draft away from joining the top 5 or 6 teams in the NFL or maybe just a lucky team who has benefited from a soft schedule and very weak NFC East? To date, trying to place a label or just trying to guess what will happen next has not been easy. My Redskins heart enjoys the fact the Cowboys game on national TV is big for the NFC East title hopes but my football brain still tells me that the Redskins could still drive off the cliff at any time. If you had to place a label on this Redskins team would it be more of the “first year of a successful rebuild” or a “team that has a few horse shoes hanging in the locker room? (Also: Has any of the subject matter from the players only meeting leaked out? who spoke up etc, the only rumor I have seen was “lack of effort, laying down second half vs. Carolina, any details you can share)?

    • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 2:30 PM

      My name is not Tandler but this team is surely “a first year successful rebuild” in progress. I totally expect them to be much better, especially on defense come next year. Should definitely be contenders in the next season or 2. The Rg3 drama tanked this team to the bottom of the barrel. Now that Rob drama is out of the way the team can operate like a football team and run the offense likes it needs to be run. No more picking and choosing what plays benefit RGme the most and not the offense.
      One thing is certain is that Cousins has this offensive scheme down pat. His footwork is excellent and his mechanics are great. His high accuracy numbers are proof of that. His decision making is certainly a work in progress as he needs to get better at not making some of the high risk no reward throws like the one that almost got picked off against the Giants. Other than that, I think this is a team that is finally heading in the right direction and with a few more playmakers on both sides of the ball the Skins will be a force to be reckoned with.
      Lets just hope they do not take the Cassel lead Cowgirls to lightly on the national stage Monday night. The Skins have a tendency to stink it up on the national stage so that scares me.

      • bangkokben - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:06 PM

        This season has a bit of the 2012 feeling to it – where the usual pitfalls like Nationally televised games aren’t pitfalls. Have you noticed the home record? That has NOTHING to do with our fans; our fans at the stadium are the beneficiaries. I know it’s the Cowboys and we as fans have our ghosts to deal with – like night games. But does any of that tangibly have any bearing on Monday’s outcome. If anything, can we make Dallas a one dimensional passing team? How is Quinton Dunbar’s finger? Can we run on Dallas? Do we need to even try? Can we possibly get a rout where we’re singing to all the Cowboy fans (and there will be plenty) as they exit in the 3rd quarter: “Na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, Goodbye!” ?

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 1, 2015 at 5:12 PM

      That’s a good question and maybe one that can’t really be answered until the season is over. Just a couple of random observations on what you said, though:

      –It is a fairly young team. Only three starters, Hatch, Hall, and Goldson, are over 30. No starters on offense are over 30. Not sure what the average is but age is not an issue.

      –They have not had a soft schedule so far. Their opposition winning percentage is .529. Only 3 other NFC teams have had tougher schedules, the 49ers, Lions, and Bears.

      –I don’t think they have been particularly lucky. Certainly Bucs personal fouls helped them in that rally, but they had some bad fortune, like a fumble that rolled right to Julio Jones in the end zone, in the Falcons loss. So, no, I think they are what their record says they are.

      –No specifics from player meeting, just generalities.

  10. murphsman - Dec 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    I will admit i was a huge rg3 fan and did not like Gruden nor did i think Cousins was good enough to help us much. Now, i still think the way RG3 has been treated by Washington is unfair, and I’m not sure if Cousins is the long term answer at QB because his decision making is questionable at times, but i will say that my opinion of the coach and front office has changed. Gruden does seem to be getting better as a coach, and Captain Kirk is definitely improving as a qb. If our guys can avoid freak injuries next year, the future looks bright in Washington and the road to respectability is in view.

  11. crussell75 - Dec 1, 2015 at 6:44 PM

    It’s absolutely true that the “fire Gruden” people are the same ones still emotionally attached to Griffin. Unfortunately for them they are the same fans who don’t really know how to look at game film. He has horrible footwork, no ability to read defenses, terrible pocket awareness, and very little common sense when it comes to protecting his body. At the end of the day, the coaching staff had no choice but to go with Cousins. Every play Cousins makes pisses those people off more and more.

    • brucefan1 - Dec 1, 2015 at 7:57 PM

      “Every play Cousins makes pisses those people off more and more.”

      Hahaha! Where exactly did you get your data from for that declaration, Russ? Or is it just some unsubstantiated gut-feeling you have? (That’s cool, though, as long as we know that’s where your ideas are coming from … your gut.)

      As a BIG Griffin supporter (and guess I always will be), I think most of us have looooong moved past the idea of his EVER playing for the Redskins again. That ship sailed even before the start of camp (as Gruden admitted later).

      ALL Skins fans know that Cuz is the Skins QB for the foreseeable future and have, I believe, come to accept that (haven’t heard much otherwise for weeks) — and to pull for him! And he’s done a very nice job — safely ensconced in the middle of the pack of NFL QBs in rating (17th out of the 31 qualifiers!), and he seems to get better more often than not. (Full disclosure, tho; I gotta admit that I have a “gut-feeling” that Griffin could have done as well given the opportunity … but we’ll never know, will we?)

      Now as far as Gru goes, the jury is still out on him, imho — still WAY too much can happen; a good finish earns him a return. But a crash & burn probably doesn’t. And now that I’m REALLY expecting for a playoff run, I’m pulling for Gru to get ‘er done!!

      I hope (and think) Cuz will earn his extension after this season. As for Gru, I’m still “wait and see”. As I’ve been saying about his fate for months, thru thick & thin; whatever Scot thinks best.

      • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 8:52 PM

        The price of QB’s are going up by the day. I am looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 years 48 million with 18 mil guaranteed money for Captain Kirk ‘franchise’ Cousins. There is a big shortage of QB’s in the league right now and I figure Cousins is going to cash in and buy his wifey some new clothes, Guchi knee highs, along with the royal spa treatment.

      • Skulb - Dec 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM

        The jury actually is not out. He has been told he’s good for 2016 so you get to flog this dead horse for at least one more year. Happy days!

  12. JOHNNY B - Dec 1, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    We are in a position to make the playoffs but has anyone thought about what that would mean. Sure we would feel like we actually had a good team for a change. Well it would mean a first place schedule next year and that’s not a good thing. Sure we are getting better but good enough to beat the best teams in the league I think not. Who knows maybe an off season with a good Draft and free agency we can get the final touches that we need. I am just tired of going to the playoffs 1 year then bottom feeders the next.

    • goback2rfk - Dec 1, 2015 at 8:54 PM

      Its a concern, along with the fading draft pick. There is one huge upside of making the playoffs and that is you could make the SuperBowl. I am not saying the Skins will win a playoff game or go to the Playoffs but you have to make it to the offseason to get there so I am going to say throw it all out there and maybe we can win a playoff game like the Panthers did last year at 7-9-1

    • skinsgame - Dec 1, 2015 at 10:04 PM

      So… we should start rooting against them? They need experience in playoff games and they need to adjust to the impending titles they’ll be taking.

      • JOHNNY B - Dec 2, 2015 at 12:57 AM

        Never root against them just concerned what will happen.

    • colmac69 - Dec 2, 2015 at 4:12 AM

      Very true but would think team will accept that possibility if it means a div title….

      Team is on an upward curve for sure….another off season with priority being to upgrade a few pieces in defense….couple offenses changes and team should b really challenging for playoffs nxt yr and have pieces in position to consolidate over nxt few yrs as a genuine contender

      Winning games is the bottom line…..Everything else is window dressing….win ten games by point and lose 6 by 30 pts u got 10-6 and the playoffs…..

      As AL said jist win baby

    • bangkokben - Dec 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM

      Back the truck up. Shut the front door. Etc. You are literally talking about two games and about four places in the draft. Those two games may have more bearing than the draft picks. Picking 17th and 21st are nearly a wash. But for arguments sake lets look at our 4th place schedule compared to the Giants 3rd place, the Eagles 2nd place, and Cowboys 1st place.

      Redskins: Rams and Bears
      Giants: 49ers and Vikings
      Eagles: Cardinals and Lions
      Cowboys: Packers and Seahawks

      One year’s strength doesn’t carry over.

    • hk2000 - Dec 2, 2015 at 9:21 AM

      Here here! We only beat bad teams ( not all of them, but most) and luckily for the Gruden, we have a lot of bad teams on our schedule this year.

      • John - Dec 2, 2015 at 6:11 PM

        That’s the beauty of parity scheduling. The NFLs ultimate goal is to keep every team in the hunt in it until the last game so everyone will stay glued to their TVs until the bitter end with every team either side of 8 – 8.

    • sidepull - Dec 3, 2015 at 11:29 AM

      Really, I hope we do win the Division. I hope we do play better teams. I hope we have to deal with whatever draft position we encounter. All the good teams do and they seem to find a way. I am hopeful that Scot takes advantage of the draft and free agency to help reinforce, replace, retool this team to compete on a higher level. I want them to earn it. This team is not going into the basement. They are out and they are staying out. Redskins are on the upswing. HTTR

  13. Nectar collector - Dec 2, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Want to just compliment scot. Great draft. Great leadership. Great culture change. Great picking players to match coaches. Great mid season pick ups in Blackmon and carrier etc. and great pick on Jarrett. Great leadership by Snyder giving up being Gm and letting Scott work his magic. Great decision by scott to say Gruden is coach next year so players know grudens in charge tbis year. I’m impressed by the whole organization. And great job by cousins proving critics wrong and showing emotion and leadership and smarts. Super smart dude

    • Nectar collector - Dec 2, 2015 at 12:30 AM

      Oh and great job cutting Kai and picking up Hoskins. I read scott brought in Hoskins and tested him kicking couple hours himself and cut Kai and signed him. That true?

    • voice4thefans - Dec 2, 2015 at 6:54 AM

      Gruden is coach next year , Do you Really think Scott made that decision or are you totally clueless

      • brucefan1 - Dec 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM

        Hmmm … I didn’t hear that Scot announced that decision, either! Anyone else?

        If so, how’d I miss THAT baby?! ;^}

        • Skulb - Dec 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM

          Because you only see and hear what confirms your preconceptions, like I told you repeatedly this offseason. It’s a character trait with you apparently and basically the recipe for endless stupidity. Takes all sorts I suppose.

      • John - Dec 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM

        The way they are playing, Gruden is the coach for the forseable future. The team still needs a couple pieces (center, d line, linebacker, safety, big fast wr) to be competitive (able to win against good teams too) week in and week out.

        • sidepull - Dec 3, 2015 at 11:31 AM

          And hope Galette is playing. Need pressure.

  14. - Dec 2, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    Oh and did Scott hire Callahan or was he hired before scott? Great hire. And who hired joe berry and the defensive backs coach? Anyone know? And great firing haslet decision. Who was behind that? Between firing haslet and barring rg3 from media I haven’t heard any locker room disputes or “sources say” type stuff that was ripping team apart last two decades

    • voice4thefans - Dec 2, 2015 at 6:55 AM

      80 % of those thank you should be going to Grtuden

  15. voice4thefans - Dec 2, 2015 at 6:51 AM

    Don’t worry we are not losing any more games until January

  16. voice4thefans - Dec 2, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    And thank you Shanny for drafting Cousins , Breeland, Morris and Ryan Kerrigan

    • John - Dec 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM

      Breeland was drafted by Bruce Allen last year.

  17. hk2000 - Dec 2, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    This board has turned into the gathering of the mindless and a fan club that I have no wish to be a part of. Hey all, enjoy the mediocrity!!!!!

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 2, 2015 at 10:05 AM

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    • John - Dec 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM

      Goodbye and take some of the other grumps with you.

    • Skulb - Dec 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM

      How dare fans of a football team form a fan club!?! I’ve never heard anything so outrageous in my life. Allow me to overcompensate:


    • sidepull - Dec 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM

      Surely you jest. Archives

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