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Need to Know: What is Cousins’ future with the Redskins?

Oct 29, 2015, 5:27 AM EDT

Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, October 29, 10 days before the Redskins visit the New England Patriots.

What is Cousins’ future?

If you’ll note the date stamp on this tweet, it’s from October 19, the day after the loss to the Jets. That was a “bad Kirk” day as he threw two interceptions and was off target on a number of other passes.

My response to Markian was that I would look at his question during the bye. And now, of course, Cousins is coming off of a “good Kirk” performance in leading the Redskins to a comeback win over the Bucs.

And it is the up-and-down nature of Cousins’ performances that makes predicting his future so difficult. It’s easy to sit here now and say that he’s turned the corner and his star is rising. But it sure didn’t look that way 10 days ago and it might not after the bye when the Redskins go on the road to play two undefeated teams, the Patriots and Panthers, in their first three games after the bye.

But if things were calm and stable, and certain I wouldn’t be putting casino chips on future events. So let’s go with an imaginary $100 in casino chips to lay down on the possible outcomes.

Cousins is slated to be an unrestricted free agent next year so “cut him” is not an option.

Let him walk—$10 This would mean letting him go without a contract offer or one that is such a lowball deal that he would be a fool to accept it. It would take about seven or eight “bad Kirk” performances in the last 11 games with maybe a couple of “horrible Kirk” games that we haven’t see this year but are in his past (see Thursday night vs. Giants in 2014).

Bring him back on a short-term deal—$65 I’m doing a post later today on free agents and I’ll go into what a deal like this might look like. It would be something that would tie Cousins to the team for the two years with perhaps a third-year option. This would be the scenario of Cousins continues to go along about like he has, mixing some good games with some that show that he is still a work in progress. The team likely would bring in some competition for Cousins if they take a wait and see stance such as this.

Bring him back on a long-term deal—$20 If you’ve been following along here, you can probably figure out that this is what happens if he copies and pastes the Bucs game several more times this year and cures the interception bug so that his lows are not nearly as low. The Redskins somehow sneaking into the playoffs in a weak NFC East and winning a home playoff game would help. This would be a four- or five-year deal worth something in the $15-$17 million range with escalators to bump his pay up if he exceeds expectations and escape hatches for the team to get out of it if he underperforms the deal.

Franchise tag—$5 This is worth a flyer because crazy things happen in the NFL. This would take Cousins hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and driving off the new car as the MVP. I’d probably go a little lower than five bucks this but this casino doesn’t do $1 chips.


Today’s schedule: Bye week

Days until: Redskins @ Patriots 10; Saints @ Redskins 17; Redskins @ Panthers 24

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  1. troylok - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:01 AM

    It’s kind of tough to predict right now, but assuming Cousins plays out the season they should know what they have come contract time. I think that is the whole point of letting him play out the season. One thing not mentioned is if the Redskins have a new head coach and what he would think of Cousins. New coaches like “their guys” and Cousins wouldn’t be one of them.

    • voice4thefans - Oct 29, 2015 at 7:24 AM

      +New head Coach is out of the question dumb as shanny Is still getting paid by Snyder, the team need stability and this is not the great giveaway paying two ex head coaches and a new head Coach ,unless you plan on doing it with your money

      • darcrequiem - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:30 AM

        Shanahan isn’t still being paid by the team. He had one year left on his contract when he was canned. This is Gruden’s second year.

      • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM

        This GM is not tied to this coach and Snyder doesn’t mind wasting money

      • goback2rfk - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM

        Who cares what you say, your not signing any of the checks. This organization averages a new coach every 2 – 3 seasons. It is certainly within the realm Gruden gets canned.

    • soulbldr7 - Oct 29, 2015 at 10:24 AM

      Well Cousins isn’t really Gruden’s guy either. Shanahan is the one who drafted him.

      • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:37 PM

        I don’t care WHO drafted him … if you don’t think Cuz is Gru’s guy, then you ain’t been paying attention!

        Go back, do a little research gather knowledge, then come back later with what you find out. (Btw, “delusion” doesn’t count as knowledge.)

        • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:17 PM

          Bruce, Cuz is Gruden’s pick between the three on the roster. He didn’t pick the roster. Shanahan did. If I take your to Morton’s but then tell the server bring us the kid’s menu? Did you get your choice?

        • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:50 PM

          You don’t think Gruden LOVES Cousins? I do.

          To almost “man crush” dimensions, even!!! ;^}

    • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM

      Gruden has to have even worse luck with player injuries (Redskins number two so far in quarters/games starters have missed), have a complete collapse from the team moving forward a la Shanahan in 2014, or simply not make the playoffs and have the owner be just as petty as Tim Willhide about the RG3 benching.

      In other words there have to be REASONS for the owner to allow the GM to fire the coach. $15M isn’t nothing. So what if McC didn’t hire him. All reports are that the two see eye to eye, have a good relationship, and have similar philosophies on the kinds of football players this team needs.

      So I know that those clinging to the hope that Griffin will rise again in B&G want nothing more than to see Gruden fired, but say the ‘skins injury issues resolve themselves and that the team doesn’t implode, do you want not just the coach fired but the GM to resign due to the fact that the owner won’t allow him to do his job?

      • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:46 PM

        For all intents and purposes Griffin is gone after this year , so he doesn’t matter (Still not even sure why he’s around THIS season … as some dreaded insurance policy they never intend to cash in, right?), but if that “complete collapse from the team moving forward a la Shanahan in 2014” DOES happen then that might spell the end for Gru.

        WAY to early to tell, tho.

      • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:01 PM

        “All reports are that the two see eye to eye, have a good relationship, and have similar philosophies on the kinds of football players this team needs”

        ALL REPORTS? Man … I’m having a hard time finding even one report that affirms that speculation, ben. Can you send me a link to … not all of them … maybe just a few of them.

        Please put me wise. (Which may be an impossible task in regard to any topic!!)

        Btw, as a devout reader of Real Redskins, I don’t recall that I’ve ever read where Rich, who doesn’t state anything as fact that he can’t back up, makes that claim with any surety. Maybe he will give us his take on it at some point in time?

        • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM

          Mike Jones was on the “Man Cave” this week saying they were seen hugging after the game and then the other stuff I wrote. I’ll try to find a link for you, since your such a jovial fella. Others I might just leave it at that.

        • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:11 PM

          Sorry, I can’t get that for you. ESPN canceled the show and has removed everything from the audio vault.

          Must of been something they said.

        • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:38 PM

          “Scot McCloughan agrees with Jay Gruden that there might be something more to Cousins than just quality backup status. And so, they are on the same page, committed to riding this thing out, giving the quarterback a long, hard, patient look so they can best educate themselves on what they have in him. Can Cousins develop into the next Tom Brady? No one is saying that. But can he develop into a very good quarterback that leads this team to wins on a yearly basis? They think it’s possible, but also need to see more to find out for sure.

          It takes a lot more than just a quarterback to win, the G.M. and coach agree. That’s why they’re still in evaluation mode of this important position while also working to put quality pieces in place all over the roster (the moves in free agency, the development of draft picks, changes on the coaching staff).”


        • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM


          Ohh shoot — that stuff is behind WaPo’s paywall. I’m too cheap to pay for internet content, especially when great stuff like Real Redskins, et al. (like Sons Of Washington!!) are FREE.

          But I will take your word for it that Jones said he saw that love fest between all those parties post-game on Sunday! Nice!!

          (Wonder if the meeting woulda been QUITE so “KumBaYa” if Breshard hadn’t made that late tackle on Martin? But let us not dwell on any unpleasantness that did NOT occur! Gotta think positive!!)

      • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:20 PM

        Bang now you are Just plain making things up.

        • colmac69 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM

          Mike jones had article couple days bout cousins and his prospects for rest of season and he mentioned that it would appear the gm shares gruden thoughts on what cousins can bring to team although he…like gruden…wants to see consistency..

          I’m a hopeless tech head or I would post link to article…

      • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:35 PM

        Petty? This coming from a guy who Claims to be an RG3 supporter then trashes the guy every chance he gets. This coming from a guy who makes up faults for RG3 ( doesn’t step up in the Pocket during a bootleg) ok that one you just don’t know football. This Coming from a guy who says tuff RG3 needs to excel regardless If RG3 is injured or how bad the Oline is. But let’s make excuses for a healthy Cousins playing behind a good Oline and is still inaccurate and averages about 2 turnovers a game.

        I’m not Petty about anything I’ve sang the same time about Cousins since 2012 on here way before you showed up just pointing out the facts.

  2. colorofmyskinz - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:13 AM

    Good Kirk bad Kirk is a good analogy. We even saw it from first half to last half in the Tampa game. I would take the $65 chip. If we finish like I think, 5-6 wins tops, and if he continues to show good Kirk bad Kirk, we draft a franchise QB. We take the opportunity of a high draft pick to fix this QB situation under Scott’s watch. He is not going to bring in a FA QB to compete with Kirk. If he decides Kirk is so-so, he will use the draft pick option. I think we draft the future QB and then have him develop under Kirk with a 3 year contract for kirk. If Kirk proves he stays, if not we have developed our future. There is no way in hell we win more than 1 of our next 5 games. NE, NO, CAR, NYG, DAL… Just no way in hell. And then we will be 4-8 at best with 4 to play. CHI, BUF, PHI, DAL remaining. The team will have given up by that time. Even if we win 2 of the last 4, 6 total wins this year is the best possible outcome I can see. And that will create a tough journey for Kirk. We will see plenty of bad Kirk is my guess. And we might even see horrible Kirk in that stretch.

    So that has me feeling like chip $10 and $65 are most likely with a draft pick being used at QB most likely knowing Scot’s beliefs.

    Maybe there is this long shot that Kirk can rally the team to beat all of these unbeatable teams from a skins standpoint. It is a real long shot with our defense pretty much destroyed. If our defense can’t stop the run like we have shown, 6 wins is the best possible outcome with drafted QB most likely.

    • goback2rfk - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:17 AM

      Thats a possibility. However, if we finish we 5 – 6 wins the draft pick may not be high enough to get a good QB. Unless we trade up again?! Are we going to trade up again after the Rg3 debacle. It will be interesting to see what happens at the QB position during the offseason. It is anyone’s guess what happens.

      • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM

        There are currently 17 teams including the Redskins that are 3-4 or worse. There are also three 3-3 teams. Twenty of the 32 NFL teams have not won more than THREE games. {So colorofmyskins should change his name to chicken little or chicken S. He is always doom and gloom and measures everything about the ‘skins under his fear microscope. Afraid of the Saints, Giants, and Cowboys? Does he even watch those teams? The Panthers just like the ‘skins are 2-0 against the Bucs and Eagles.} So in conclusion, you are spot on. Even if the Redskins do end up 5-11, they’re still likely picking too late for the top QBs even though pass rusher is a much bigger need.

  3. colorofmyskinz - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Final thought on the comeback win. It was great to watch and a nice achievement, but it would be a totally different story had it been under the lights, on national tv, with a real team. I am proud of Kirk and the skins to show fight with that game. But the 24-0 against the bucs, is more concerning, then the excitement of the comeback. The 24-0 against the bucs tells me we have a very long road against some real teams to come. Impressed but very skeptical that performance means anything for the skins or Kirk quite honestly.

    • Skulb - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:09 PM

      Going down 24-0 had very little to do with Kirk though. I know certain people commenting here blame him for everything regardless, but I am hoping people are less incompetent in the Redskins organization. The main problems this team has going into the bye is not having a consistent run defense and being unable to run the football. It is not the QB, who is performing pretty well overall and who has shown a capacity to win games when he has to and to be highly accurate. Despite the Myth of Bad Cousins being perpetuated on this site by Tim and others he is in the top 5 of accurate NFL QBs after seven games. No Redskins QB has been this consistently accurate since Sonny Jurgensen. Problems yes but he´s seven games into his career as the Redskins starter and chances are he will be able to improve and/or stabilize going forward.
      It would be madness to let him get away so a short contract or a long one is a must. Franchise tag might be a bit over the top just yet. But I wouldn´t rule that out either. Good QBs don´t grow on trees.

      • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:16 PM

        How accurate is he throwingover 10 yards? People make his completion percentage every Thanksgiving in their back yard throwing the same distance he does

        • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 2:17 PM

          The west coast offense is a short passing offense, often replacing a straight hand-off for a catch & run, so I’m not shocked that Cuz throws so MANY 5 yard passes. (But then I thought the WC often set the run up by establishing the short pass game? If so, why are we all so concerned about getting the run game established first? Or are we?? Help me out fellas.)

          But to your point about inaccuracy, Tim, Cuz’s WRs did help him out with a few great catches on Sunday, no? I especially recall (with a shudder!) how Crowder was forced to fall way back to reach an off-target throw, causing his leg buckling under his body in a VERY awkward manner, and then getting landed on. Thought he was gonna tear a knee up on that one fer sure! But thankfully he popped right back up! (Think were gonna see a lotta good things from JC80 going forward!)

  4. sidepull - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:54 AM

    $65. I dont think there is any way they let Cousins walk out of Redskins park without a contract. I also would like to see what Cousins could do with a full compliment of players. Just getting Reed back was instrumental. This also suggests Cousins stays healthy. We all saw the downfall of Rg3 after a devastating injury.

    Kudos Rich for keeping a tweet around that long and getting back to it!

    • goback2rfk - Oct 29, 2015 at 10:44 AM

      I think Cousins should stay pretty darn healthy. He gets rid of the ball quick and does not take many hits or sacks. Kirk’s foot work is usually pretty good too. His mechanics are good and he protects himself well.

      • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:20 AM

        All true. The caveat is that he could get hurt scrambling or on the read-option.

        • goback2rfk - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:25 AM

          I hope he stays healthy. I like watching the good Kirk more than I would enjoy watching Colt McCoy air it out.

      • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM

        “I think Cousins should stay pretty darn healthy.”

        Aww man THAT’S a “Kiss Of Death” if I ever heard one. NOW ya jinxed him!! LOL

        Sad thing is, NFL injuries are totally UNpredictable; you can’t predict whose gonna AVOID one, any more than who’s gonna suffer one.

  5. gonavybeatarmy - Oct 29, 2015 at 7:21 AM

    This organization has had its share of bad drafts, stupid trades and general dysfunction. But, under Allen, it’s hard to think of any really stupidly egregious cap-busting contracts that he has negotiated.

    No matter how the season unfolds, fans should be confident that Bruce Allen will handle the Cousins’ contract should the team choose to retain his services. A cap-friendly Kaepernick type deal with team-friendly escape clauses is possible.

  6. timtowe - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Rich- who are the free agent QBs available next year that may fit the Gruden offense? I think that would contribute to the Skins decision to keep him. I am with you, I think a three year deal tied to some incentives will keep him in DC- if anything as a serviceable back-up.

    • Rich Tandler - Oct 29, 2015 at 9:29 AM

      The free agent QBs are, as always, junk. Bradford, Chad Henne, Fitzpatrick, Gradkowski, Colt McCoy. No solutions there.

      • boysheadcoach - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:44 AM

        Don’t relish the idea of a rookie QB next season, Kirk deserves another year with another draft around him to help the team. he has shown in 3 games that in the 4th quarter, he’s pretty competitive (albeit an errant INT in OT). played well enough with 23 seconds to get us to OT.
        I’m in favor of a short term incentive lain contract, with option years. and drafting a 3-4th rounder to develop. I trust Scotty M. implicitly in his ability to find talent. Let RGIII go for a 5th rounder and a bag of chips and cut our losses with past decisions/handling of a once great Player.
        My thoughts on coaching would be just get a good special teams coach, and let the rest continue to develop. you develop coaches just like players. Cincy and Pitt lets coaches make mistakes, learn from them, and move on to bigger , better things. for once , let’s NOT DO DRASTIC Change, and see what develops

        • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM

          So even with the recent blocked punt and recovered onside kick the special teams coach is Dead Man walking?

    • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 AM

      I agree with Rich here – no surprise. Although their may be a few named vets that are surprisingly available because their teams think it better to cut cap hits a year early.

      But as of right now the top of the FA class is Fitz and Cousins unless you want to get into the Bradford or Griffin business (Griffin would have to be released). Worse case Redskin scenario is that Cousins explodes the rest of the season but ‘skins don’t make playoffs. Then after the season Kirk reads his social media and realizes a significant portion of the local fanbase HATES him and he ends up like Trent Green signing somewhere else – maybe Chicago his home team. Griffin is still released and signs with Philly to become Randal Cunningham 2.0.and Redskins are back to square one.

  7. colmac69 - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:28 AM

    Lovely topic to start the day….can’t wait to read what gets posted later

    How he plays last nine games will determine direction (not xactly going out on a limb with that prediction )…..unless he horrible most likely option would b second on list

    If he has consistent performances then 2 yr deal b bout right…allows him to continue to grow as starter nxt yr with a better squad around him

    Unless he plays lights out can’t see multi yr deal…maybe if he plays high level nxt yr then something could get done

    It would appear the gm and coach are on same page toward cousins but only solid play from kirk will get him what he wants

    I certainly hope he can prove himself to be the guy for nxt few yrs as it would save the team from going through process of having to find a new qb….however if he doesn’t do enough then we will accept the process and move on

    But whole bunch of things could come into play and us fans are only speculating

    • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:57 AM

      Don’t you think if the GM an Coach were on the same page about Cousins RG3 would be gone?

      • kss0770 - Oct 29, 2015 at 9:19 AM

        I’ve watched every snap cousins has taken in the nfl …he’s one hell of a qb and will only get better. .if we are dumb enough to let him walk , he will be snapped up in a New York minutes..we have made some terrible decisions. The Rg3 draft trade disaster, Albert Haynesworth, missing Aron Rodgers and taking Jason Campbell , over the hill Deion Sanders, Malcom Kelly , letting Schottenheimer and Shanahan walk ect…let’s not let captain Kirk walk and look back and say damn we should have kept that dude..been a redskin fan for 40 years and I’m all in on cousins , gruden and Mc. General manager….

        • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 10:58 AM

          Cousins has played horribly you need to get game pass and rewatch all his games you will see mostly inaccurate passes, interceptions, and balls hitting defenders right in the hands.

      • Rich Tandler - Oct 29, 2015 at 9:26 AM

        No. They will be paying RG anyway. Might as well keep him around in case of emergency.

        • timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:08 AM

          Not if they traded him. Also wouldn’t it be better to get rid of him to lessen the constant media speculation? They can always pick up a guy if an “emergency” happens.

          I haven’t seen anything saying they where on the same page. All I’ve seen was an article on sports talk that said they each know that Gruden names the starters and the GM sets the roster. That doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement to me.

        • mjthomas85 - Oct 29, 2015 at 11:20 AM

          Realistically, the media hasn’t focused that much on RG3 until Herschel Walker’s comment. I don’t see him as a distraction, and there is no way to trade him with the 5th year option in place. RG3 could elect to void that option, but why would he want to do that? The option gives him protection if he gets hurt, and it allows him to control his fate in terms of where he ends up next year. Unless a team he likes comes to terms with the Redskins on a trade, contingent on a voided option, he will not let it go.

        • John - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM

          RG3 will be released. $16 much million for a 3rd or 2nd stringer? No way Jose! Even Snyder is not dumb enough to pay that bill.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:21 PM

          That’s IF the Redskins decide at the end of the season Griffin is still going to be 3rd or 2nd stringer. THAT jury may still be out for powerful forces within the team hierarchy.

          (I guess that’s where all this super fun speculating is leading us. But still more than half a season to go!)

      • DMon - Oct 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM

        i agree… I think Scotty McG
        has a plan for Robert.. he may be the future.. to the dismay of the kINT Cousins fanboys

  8. timwillhide - Oct 29, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    I think if think if they do try to resign him it will be before theend of the season on a contract similar to a Fitzpatrick deal. This depends on how well he plays. If he starts to streach the field and throw more accurate passes with less turnovers he will get this kind of deal. If he continues to play like he has bin then. New Coach and he walks

  9. renhoekk2 - Oct 29, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    It’s no secret finding an above average starting QB is a painful and near impossible task. I went back and looked at all of the QB’s drafted between 2009-2013. I figured 2014 and 2015 QB’s were still too raw to make any determinations. There were a total of 59 QB’s drafted in that 5 year span. 9 of which are current starters. I included Geno Smith because he was the designated starter until he got sucker punched. Or maybe just say 8 starters if you want to anoint Fitzpatrick. Essentially that is less than 2 starting caliber QB per draft. The talent range goes from Andrew Luck to Geno Smith. Some QB’s have been propped up by great defenses and running games ala Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. With the SF defense taking a step back SF is already talking about moving on next season from a QB that took them to a Super Bowl a few years ago. In between are guys like Stafford who has a losing career record and never won a playoff game but throws for a lot of yards. Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, and Ryan Tannehill, haven’t done anything special with their respective teams since coming into the league but are considered “franchise” QB’s.

    They may very well decide to move on from Cousins but to who? Go to and look at the list of 2016 FA QB’s. It will make your stomach turn. So then a rookie? The pool of NFL capable college QB’s shrinks every year. If the Jets stick with Fitzpatrick that will mean there are ZERO starting QB’s from the 10 drafted in 2013. There is one starting QB from the 11 picked in the 2010 draft. Sam Bradford who is dead last in the league using ESPN’s QBR rating system. Recent history says that there will be 1 or maybe if you are lucky 2 capable starting QB’s to come out of the next draft. Will you get Russell Wilson or Christian Ponder? History says there are a lot more Christian Ponders in the draft than there are Russell Wilsons. Fans hating on Cousins and Griffin better take a look around the QB landscape. It ain’t pretty.

    • bangkokben - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM

      Great post.

    • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:29 PM

      Andrew Luck , Geno Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, and Ryan Tannehill.

      ANY of those you’d take over the triumvirate that are on the Skins’ roster at this point in time? Any you would definitely PASS on?

      Who’s got an opinion on ren’s list? Someone? Anyone? Bueller?

      • renhoekk2 - Oct 29, 2015 at 4:54 PM

        Sure some of these guys look better. Both Dalton and Newton have played with defenses that were ranked in the top 10 in either pts or yards or sometimes both, since they came into the league. Kaepernick has played with a top 5 defense until this season. Surprise with a bottom of the league defense the 49ers and Kaepernick are struggling this season. Playing with a top defense makes life easier for the offense. You play with the lead frequently, don’t need to score as much, get the ball back on more 3 and outs, shorter fields to drive, they often score for you etc…… You have to believe if the Skins had a top 5 or top 10 defense year after year both Cousins and Griffin would have better success.

        Stafford, Newton and Luck were all top draft choices. Skins won’t be picking number one. Other than maybe Kaepernick none of those guys will be available. I suppose you could draft a QB and maybe you get a Tannehill or Kaepernick if you think they are better. Not sure they take you anywhere on their own. Give Cousins or Griffin a top 5 defense and strong running game and they will look better too.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM

          Good answer ren — plenty of extenuating circumstances go into the success or failure of a QB — but I don’t think I asked my question clearly enough.

          I should have asked who posters here might prefer to have as Redskin QB — whether they could actually get them or not. And which, if any, would keep Kirk, Colt or RG3 over.

          Totally hypothetical, I grant you. I doubt that many from your list would be available at this time, especially in, say, a head up trade for one of the Skins’ guys.

    • cwhiteco - Nov 2, 2015 at 3:47 AM

      There is a ton of bad quarterback play in this league. From guys with huge contracts. Cutler. Stafford. Kapp. Tannenhill. Fitzpatrick.

      Some of the people think quarterbacks just grow on trees. They have to be cultivated. Two who have seemed to develop are Cam and Dalton. I personally think that Kirk is going to turn into a higly efficient west coast quarterback, much like Rich Gannon. This teams needs to add a big time wide out and and elite back to the mix.

      I was one wanting us to take a flyer on Gurly. I think when you pick top five you need to take a “Impact” player. That would be Cooper or Gurly. Both seem to be excelling. Oh well. Scheff is solid — just think a decent talent could have been found with our second pick.

  10. John - Oct 29, 2015 at 12:26 PM

    Being that the draft is going to be quarterback poor and the available free agents would be few and far between (can’t see Drew Brees coming here) and the team still under construction, you would be best off to sign Kirk to a 2-3 year deal with competitive money and plenty of incentives. Kirk has ups and downs like any quarterback in their first year starting, but is showing progress, so let him and the team grow together. Changing coaches and quarterbacks every couple of years is what has screwed this team up so much over the years. Build a solid core, then they’ll really take off.

    • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM

      I guess they GOTTA sign Cuz, John.

      Who else they gonna play at QB next season? No better realistic alternatives at this point in time.

      (Unless, maybe some team will want to dump someone off renhoek’s list above who they’ve finally given up on!)

      But as far as guessing THIS early in the season for how long and how much to pay Cuz, I choose to pass. Shocking, huh?!!

      • renhoekk2 - Oct 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM

        Kaepernick and Cutler may be available, maybe. Only real starter type guys I see becoming available. Maybe Smith from KC. Neither of those first two guys fits the west coast offense if they keep Gruden though. Is Smith an upgrade? There are no real solutions. I think they need to sign Cousins short term, but that will depend on other teams as far as a deal goes. If he plays decent and hits FA, you may have other teams like CLE, KC, CHI, SF trying to sign him. Sign him, and keep drafting for defense. Need starting quality DB’s out of this next draft.

        • cwhiteco - Nov 2, 2015 at 3:54 AM

          If kC signed him that would be the second promising QB we had that ended up there. Trent Green. Kirk is Trent Green Duece. Don’t blow it this time. (Even tho they kind of look a like as well).

          Remember, when we had three qbs. Shuler, Ferrote and Green. Who ended up having the best career of the lot. Green of course. I think Kirk is the best of our present lot.

          These guys need to keep playing toegher. Honing their timing and skills. Then you slowly add better talent. This organization will be elite by this time next year.

  11. cowboyhater - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    You have to keep one of these QB’s, so my bet is the $65 option, unless there is a team out there who is willing to give Kirk a long term deal with the guarantee he will be the starter. If the skins do not trade RG, he will walk and go to Dallas (book it !!). Colt could come back as the veteran back up if no one else seeks his services, which will leave us with a developmental QB from the draft. We need stability at the QB, and coaching position. SM knows this, which is why this is the most likely scenario. Then we go on to another draft and continue to build this team with cheaper younger talent, sprinkled in with some FA pick up’s. Rebuilding is a good thing……

    • cwhiteco - Nov 2, 2015 at 3:56 AM

      Dallas can have Griff.

      Fine, then we will take Kellen Moore. Who, by the way, the Boys have stupid not start during this fall off. Kellen is better than both Cassel and Weeden.

  12. brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    “RG, he will walk and go to Dallas (book it !!)”

    Now tell us, as a “cowboyhater” would that delight you, or worry you?

    “Rebuilding is a good thing……”

    Until your fans get sick of CONSTANTLY doing it! Then, not so much.

    • cowboyhater - Oct 29, 2015 at 3:02 PM

      Hi Bruce the “troll”…….if you have seen any of my posts you know where my allegiance lies, so I will let you think about that one. As for it worry, or delighting me who cares where he goes. I only care about how this team get’s rebuilt into a consistent winner. So you in your statement, I see that you are not a skins fan which is fine, but unless you are a real fan we understand that this team needed to be rebuilt through our new GM due to the mismanagement of this team over 2 decades. So yes Bruce the “troll” rebuilding is definitely a good thing…..

      • brucefan1 - Oct 29, 2015 at 5:06 PM

        Hahaha! Don”t get your panties in such a bunch, hater!! I forgot you were the highly-sensitive, super-insecure, knee jerk-defensive type. My bad.

        But I REALLY was interested in how you answered that question! No subterfuge. No obfuscation. (Aww shoot … I’m just gonna get him confused again!) Howbout this; I wasn’t trying to trick or goad you — or question your unquestionable allegiance — just asking an honest question!

        I really want to know if Griffin signing with the Cowboys — which you have already “booked” — would make you happy (as in, “Yay! The Cowboys have made a huge mistake and signed the crappiest QB in the NFL! Can’t wait till WE play him!” or cause you concern ( i.e., “Shoot, they Cowboy’s have signed RG! Hope he doesn’t develop in their system into a QB who will beat us on a regular basis!”).

        Simple as that… easy-peasy. So untwist your knickers, take a deep breath, think hard, and give us an honest answer. Um-kay?

  13. donald - Oct 29, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    Grudendidsay that Kirk is his guy. Live by the sword and die by the sword.

  14. kenlinkins - Oct 29, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    IMO The $65 bet is the winner. Cousins cost for next year should not be that high and I do not think Cousins wants to start over somewhere else. With RG3 gone, next year Cousins will “have it his way” from day one and a full year under his belt. This would also allow the new GM to hunt for a bargain in the 2016 draft at the QB position if he feels their is another 3rd or 4th rounder who could grow into the job (those kids from Stanford and North Dakota come to mind). The bottom line here is what the new GM feels he has in Cousins, what he can add in the draft to help him and what he thinks the he can do in the draft at QB in 2016 and 2017 for the long term health of the Redskins. The short term plan will include what the Head Coach thinks he can do with Cousins / the QB position but until Gruden proves he can be a winner (i.e. win play off games) his input will be limited.

  15. Blackbutcoloreblind - Oct 29, 2015 at 4:36 PM

    My name says it all! Colorblind. All in for Kirk cousins. I’ll take the 5 dollar bet. I think he will rally team into playoffs

  16. hk2000 - Oct 29, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    As a fan, I’m praying for one of the 2 extremes. Either Cousins lights it up and ends up deep in the play offs, or completely crash and burn. Those commenters who are all over the 65% option are fooling themselves. If cousins remains as an up down yo-yo, I’d rather move on and let the GM find his coach who in turn pick a QB he believes in. And for the record, I’m not against Cousins PER SE, but would like a different coach who knows what the hell he’s doing. Archives

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