Skip to content

Need to Know: Redskins finally score a TD after a takeaway

Oct 19, 2015, 6:50 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, October 19, six days before the Washington Redskins host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

News, notes, and numbers on Jets 34, Redskins 20

—Bashaud Breeland recovered two fumbles and intercepted a pass against the Jets. He became the second player to do that this season, along the Darrelle Revis of the Jets. Breeland is the first Redskins player do to so since at least the 2000 season.

—The Redskins turned Breeland’s first takeaway, a fumble recovery at the Jets’37-yard line. It was the first time the Redskins had scored a touchdown in the series immediately following a turnover in 29 opportunities to do so. That came on December 22, 2013 against the Cowboys when they drove 33 yards for a touchdown after Josh Wilson recovered a fumble.

—In the fourth quarter Jeron Johnson blocked a punt in the end zone and Rashad Ross fell on it in the end zone for a touchdown. It was Ross’ second special teams TD of the year, the first coming in the same end zone of the same stadium in Week 3 against the Giants when he returned a kickoff 101 yards for a touchdown.

—It was the Redskins’ first blocked punt since Vernon Fox got one on December 24, 2006.

—Ross scored the Redskins’ first touchdown on a blocked punt since Walt Harris scored one against the Lions in 2004. That’s a span of 174 games.

—Dustin Hopkins’ 54-yard field goal in the second quarter was a career long (sample size alert, his career is only five games old). It was his second one of over 50 yards in two weeks. Hopkins hit one from 52 yards last week in Atlanta to tie the game at the end of regulation.


Today’s schedule: Jay Gruden news conference 3:00 p.m.

Days until: Bucs @ Redskins 6; Redskins @ Patriots 20

In case you missed it

  1. colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:00 AM

    Hate to say it but cousins looked horrible. Those INTs were in classic Kirk form, not on target and under thrown. Just poor execution in his part. I thought we had a run stopping defense? Our defense against rush horrible. Our coaches are unable to make halftime adjustments in game planning. They just suck as well. I know injuries are bad, what is wrong with our trainers. I know this year they were replaced, but they found worse.

    This was s team loss and only breeland showed up to play.

    • Redskinshttr - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:08 AM


    • 214hof - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:06 AM

      While I do agree Cousins stunk it up in the second half, I don’t think we can place the loss squarely on his shoulders. The jets came out in the 3rd quarter and dominated the LOS, the redskins couldn’t get an inch in the run game and Cousins threw some devastating INTs. The Defense was playing lights out IMO, until the offense stalled and they had to play the majority the second half. All in all, I still see the skins as a better team even if they aren’t winning. The team just plays harder they last year, all 3 phases ( I’m cutting the offense some lack, the have been terrible been the second half two weeks in a row. I think the last time I watched Washington get a KR TD it was Brandon Banks, and the last time I saw any kind of block (FG or Punt) was Troy Vincent vs the Seagles when the late great Sean Taylor scooped it and scored for the win. So even if the Skins only muster another 4-5 wins, the way they are playing this year I’ll be content. Honestly how many fans actually thought Washington would be anywhere but the bottem of the division?

      • ET - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:27 AM

        “All in all, I still see the skins as a better team even if they aren’t winning. The team just plays harder …”

        Agree. This was obviously a tough game to watch, but the Skins were down two veteran lineman, a #1 receiver, a go-to tight end, two of their top three CBs—against a strong team like the Jets, that’s terrifying. And yet they did a few good things out on the field. Backups and young guys are stepping up and playing hard (if not perfectly). Breeland was inspiring. If this team can get some key players back from injury, they can put up a good fight.

        • ajbus1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 1:31 PM

          That’s it in a nutshell right there. Let’s not lose sight of what this team is. The loss is disappointing but I didn’t expect much with all the injuries. Hopefully they keep fighting and playing hard and we get to 6 or 7 wins.

    • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM

      I too have been a bit surprised to see the defense get gashed the last two weeks. Will watch to see if they figure things out during the bye. Kinda disappointed in Paea not being a factor (a mark against Scot so far, imho) but have been delighted with some of the play of “Ricky Zhaw” (a mark FOR Scot!).

      Of course ya gotta love BB’s play (never really thought of him as a backup CB) and even Blackmon has been adequate. They seem to be well-set at CB for the foreseeable future (not so much at safety, tho; more work needs to be done there, imo).

      But that pass rush has been INadequte by NFL standards (what happened to Preston Smith?) with Kerrigan being the biggest dud. Barry has to find a way to generate a CONSISTENT, dependable, pass rush.

      Still love what Keenan usually brings to the table, but not so much Reilly, Jr. His spot might be upgrade project #1 in the offseason. I don’t hear Murphy’s name called very much … and Smith? Again, we need to see more signs that Scot made a good choice with him.

      All that said, I gotta wonder if (when?) it becomes a case if a defense being expected to carry more than their share of the workload’ with scanty contributions from an inept offense. (This actually went thru my mind a few times yesterday, but it’s too early to know for sure.) If things continue going sideways offensively, I wonder if this might not become an issue in the locker room.

      But I don’t wanna think that way, because as the KG say “Bad to those how think bad thoughts”! ;^}

      • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 3:02 PM

        I can agree on most of what you said. Breeland is a beast and just going to get better. But Kerrigan is dealing with a hip injury and playing with pain. Not a dud just having a bad season.

    • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:09 AM

      What bugs me is that they were actually playing pretty well in the first half and were able to lead the game at half time. For all the bile being spewed on Cousins right now he wasn´t bad before the half either: few mistakes, no turnovers and a good TD pass. Not that I would have preferred to lose 34-0 obviously but there is some potential here and some good football being played in all three phases. It just doesn´t last a full game. They need to find a way to play well in all four quarters and then the wins will come. Even the Jets game would have been at least close or possibly even a win if it hadn´t been for the atrocious third quarter. Of course you can say that the Jets outplayed/outcoached us, but I really didn´t see that. It was just from no-running-game-anymore + a boneheaded mistake directly into collapse mode and 0-17 on the quarter and game over. Nobody was able to stop the bleeding and Breeland was the only one who looked like he was even trying.

      Disappointing. Expected with the Jets being pretty good and so many starters injured, but still disappointing.

  2. bk70 - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    Was Kirk looking over his shoulder (mentally) knowing that RGIII was active on Sunday?

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:24 AM

      Rgiii was Active because everyone is injured we can barely carry 47 players

      • colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:26 AM

        Might as well have suited the waterboy. We can’t keep players on the field. Our trainers just plain suck.

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:32 AM

      Rgiii and Morris are pretty much a package deal. We either run zone read spread style where they both thrive or we run this offense where they both suck.

      • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:21 AM

        Hope I’m wrong, but dollars to donuts the Skins may be running ANOTHER new offense next season, with neither of them in it (due mostly to contractual reasons)!

  3. Stephfan - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:22 AM

    So no talk about how horrible Kirk was and how our most horrible coach is doing nothing but cradle the worst qb to ever dawn a skins uniform. I mean really what has he done for the skins latly? I can’t wait to read the comments… I can’t wait to hear Ben, skull and all the other defenders of cousins. I don’t wanna hear the defense did nothing because they were under manned and still keep us into the game until Kirk throw two dumb ints. When are you guys gonna face it that I told you at the beginning of the season Kirk is trash and that’s putting it mildly. This loss goes on the worst qb in the league that is Kirk and our dumb fat coach, who can’t call a game. Let’s all give them a round of applause..

    • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 1:12 PM

      Lemme guess…. You thought that after 6 games the rebuild would be complete and the team would be in position for a playoff spot? What was your expectation for this point of the season, 4-2? 5-1? 3-3? Your extreme disappointment and insults prove only how unreasonable you are being, not anyone else.

    • bangkokben - Oct 19, 2015 at 4:50 PM

      Hi Steph. How ya doing?

      Cousins was horrible. He’s probably nothing more than Ryan Fitzpatrick 2.0. If the season continues on this TWO GAME trend, then Cousins will bounce around the league like Fitz alternating from stinking to landing in a place for a while (Fitz in Buffalo); always on a bad team but never being that guy that could carry a team on his back. When have I ever said otherwise? Anyone with eyes can see he has potential – but so does EVERYONE in the NFL. Now he has opportunity with that potential and most of us reasonable REDSKIN fans want to see that opportunity exploited – just as we wanted to see it with Griffin. I know the coach wants to see that opportunity be the entire year. I’m not quite as patient – especially since I wanted Griffin’s opportunity to include this season but any sane man who saw the last two times Griffin under center without Trent Williams wouldn’t have wanted to see Griffin under center yesterday.

      As for but calling Cousins trash, really? For you I’ll part with this: “Stay classy, San Diego” and anything else Ron Burgundy reads from a teleprompter.

    • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:21 AM

      This has nothing to do with reality though. He is not “the most horrible QB to ever don a Skins uniform”. The stats do not support such a wild statement in any way. He has been good in some areas (Completion%, sacks and first downs) average in some areas (TDs, QBR and YPG) and bad in some (INTs and YPA). Not good, not bad. Just average. And certainly better than the other available options, which is why he is the starter. Gruden is “coddling” him because Kirk is already blaming himself for the losses so there is no benefit from criticizing him in public. With such a makeup you try to improve his confidence by praising what he does well instead and it is basic sports psychology.
      When this didn´t happen last year it was because the starting QB held pressers where he threw the entire team under the bus instead of simply saying that he needed to play better personally, which is what all other starting QBs always say after defeats, including Cousins. If he has a fault as a person it is being too critical of himself. Either way, you could spend ten seconds actually looking at some stats before confusing your ingrained opinions with fact.

  4. colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:23 AM

    Oh I forgot to add that Morris look horrible! I mean this guy looks so flat averaging 2 yards per carry I just can’t understand how such a good running back has gone so bad . Without a zone read style running offense Morris is pretty much worthless .

    • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:27 AM

      Agreed about Alf’s performance, but it’s kinda hard to be effective when the oppo is stacking 8 in the box, hoping to force the QB to pass frequently! (Even a healthy O-line would have a hard time run-blocking against most NFL defenses that set up that way.)

      • ET - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:43 AM

        I agree that Alfred has looked a little flat, but I find it hard to blame him too much when one of the NFL’s best lines is stacking the box against the run. That’s gonna be tough runnin’ for any back.

        I’m not a Gruden / McVay hater, but I think the play calling for the past couple of games has been pretty weak. Yeah, they’re in a tough position without several linemen plus DeSean and Reed, but the play-callers need to to a better job keeping the opposing D on its toes.

        • mjthomas85 - Oct 19, 2015 at 12:16 PM

          I think the biggest issue with the run game is the play calling. Morris and Cousins are at fault too, but it is just way too predictable. Cousins hasn’t thrown much beyond 6 yards all year, and his average for the game was roughly 4.6 yards per attempt.

          Teams have quickly learned that there is no reason to worry about something going deep, so they stack the box and bring everyone close to the LOS. The only time we ever go deep is when R. Ross is in the game, so they place two guys on him and have everyone else stack the box. If teams know R. Ross is a deep threat, leave him in there for running plays as well, so he it is less predictable. Sadly, Gruden and McVay are both in over their heads and can’t do the jobs they’ve been given.

          It seems pretty likely that Colt McCoy will be the starter after next week, and the chances of RG3 seeing the field remain pretty slim. The team isn’t going to risk an injury and loss of cap space, so he will probably sit on the sidelines, watch games, study film, and getting healthy with next year being his goal. Also, I doubt McCoy will have any success in this offense if the coaches keep calling short dump off passes all year. It looks like they are really trying to get the first pick in the draft.

    • greed - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM

      IMO not just the change from zone read but ALF been running with D young infront of him for 3yrs now he barely touches field on offense gruden phasing him out too-no.14433Makes good money for a fb no2 gruden didnt use fb with the bengals

      • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM

        Gimme a minute whilst I figger this one out. ;^}

        • greed - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:44 AM

          simple morris use to running with lead blocker d. Young his fb -d. Young the fb barely plays on offense now -gruden as oc for bengals rarely use the fb and in yr 2 with skins is starting to phase him out point 2 was young makes good money for a fb- do you understand now or do u want me to diagram plays

        • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 1:09 PM

          No I got it NOW greed … Just hadda run it thru this here “language translator” app on my computer. It took a long time to decipher it … then it blew up from the exerartion!! Just kidding, just kidding!

          But just in case, for future reference do you draw diagrams any better than you write??!! Budda BOOM! (Again, j.k., j.k…. I LOVE stuff written in vernacular! Heck, it’s how Chaucer got started, right?!)

      • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM

        Morris was running a zone scheme where he picked the hole to hit. Are you saying that Young dictated that path?

  5. Stephfan - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:24 AM

    So no talk about how horrible Kirk was and how our most horrible coach is doing nothing but cradle the worst qb to ever dawn a skins uniform. I mean really what has he done for the skins latly? I can’t wait to read the comments… I can’t wait to hear Ben, skull and all the other defenders of cousins. I don’t wanna hear the defense did nothing because they were under manned and still keep us into the game until Kirk throw two dumb ints. When are you guys gonna face it that I told you at the beginning of the season Kirk is trash and that’s putting it mildly. This loss goes on the worst qb in the league that is Kirk and our dumb fat coach, who can’t call a game. Let’s all give them a round of applause.. Those two are done in dc

    • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:23 AM

      Can´t believe you´re copy pasting this bilge.

  6. sidepull - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    Breeland showed up big. Yet the defense gets gashed again on the ground and the offense cant run the ball anymore=loss. Awful 3rd quarter. I think I need to get up and go do something after the half because all I do is sit around and yell at at the TV. Glad the Pats won.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:58 AM

      That third quarter always hurt us jay gruden dont know how to push his players buttons to get them fired up after the half…its a coaching thing

      • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:25 AM

        Weird that it´s so dramatic though. They come out of the half looking as if they´ve all been abducted by UFOs, rectally probed and then returned to the locker room; eyes wide with shock and totally distracted when they come onto the field again. And BTW this would be a good South Park episode.

  7. Scott talbert - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    Redskins nation keep your heads up! I can see the light ahead of the tunnel! Rome wasn’t built in a day! We must stay committed to Scott Mccloughan our gm will lead us out of the wilderness! We’ve waited 23 years honestly I can wait a few more! I love our youth movement! H.T.T.R.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:55 AM

      I believe in scot m. As well but he need to get rid of jay gruden and kirk cousins if this team gonna go anywhere…jay gruden tryna make excuses he shouldn’t and no one should ever count on a player playing 16 games and its looking like he did because we raned the same ol plays with a few new plays but it didn’t matter kirk cousins never gave his wide receivers a chance

  8. mr.moneylover - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    Im just here to say I told yall so about jay gruden and kirk cousins….players head was down after the falcons game and the jets game it would be wise now to make a change to give the redskins a spark…jay gruden hope that things will be different when jordan reed and djax come back but this is not a wide receiver thing the QB missing wide open wide receivers thats a confidents thing and kirk cousins lost alot after the falcons game im guessing he was to hard on his self leading up to the jets game…this is the time when jay gruden need show he not afraid to be wrong and make a change at QB

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:01 AM

      I think Morris needs to be benched for Jones as soon as jones is back. Morris has very little left for this team unless we switch back to zone read. If we stay this route in schemes we need jones. I want to see jones all game switching with Thompson and with Morris in street clothes.

      • greed - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:49 AM

        you wanna bench morris but not kirk? CMON MAN

    • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:01 AM

      Kicks 2 picks were on him and were terrible decisions but the receivers were not open all day and had plenty off drops too. Every week we see the opposing teams recievers adjust to the ball in the air while our guys wait for the ball. Why did Thompson stop and turn to catch ball instead of just keep running and catch it over the shoulder?

    • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:34 AM

      In favor of whom? The other two might avoid some INTs but will be sacked a lot instead. And sacks will lead to fumbles and a drop in first downs = no improvement and less chances for the offense to score. Nobody knows whether Kirk can pull himself together and make this work in 2015. I just don´t think there are any viable options right now and that we might as well be patient. He does operate the offense as intended at a fairly high level, even though the most irate fans are unable or unwilling to see it. His completion %, first downs and lack of sacks actually bear this out and he is in the top 5-10 in the NFL in these categories. And that is of course what a WCO is intended to achieve. And it is happening because Kirk is well suited to the offense and understands it well enough.

      His accuracy (Occasionally so far. His season long completion% is quite high.) and INTs are the problem, as well as his inability to go off schedule when he has to. The first Jets INT was a good example: he had room to tuck and run for a yard or two and instead chose to force the ball into a window that was long closed. He was still on schedule after the play had broken down on that error and that has caused at least three of his INTs so far this season. And those are the only ones that really bother me. He needs to learn when to abandon the play and improvise, either by scrambling or throwing out of bounds. The good thing is that I think he knows that. He just needs to put into effect while he still has a chance here.

  9. skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:26 AM

    The offensive line continues to be an asset, in particular the pass blocking, in spite of missing starters. The run game is awful. The defense is beginning to look like last years defense. LB’s and DB’s are routinely beaten in the intermediate passing game. The bright side is that, when a starter is injured, there isn’t a huge drop off. That would indicate the roster has better depth. This is what a rebuild looks like.

    • colorofmyskinz - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:39 AM

      Agreed rebuild. And to me it looks like our first draft pick needs to be QB, then TE, then CB. We need a big WR too. Why don’t we have a Julio jones or megaton type? We need one. Just small speedy WRs will not cut it. And reed will continue to find injury every year. We are lucky to get 6 good games out of reed yearly. He is great in field. But keeping him in field is next to impossible. We need another to replace him. We need inside linebackers. Goldston was a hitting machine. Breeland and Goldston were the only players in defense that showed up.

      If we lose to Tampa the season is over.

      • ET - Oct 19, 2015 at 1:26 PM

        Goldson has stepped up nicely. He’s what we hoped we were getting with Clark last year. Clark brought the leadership and smarts, but not the on-field pop.

        And how about Jarrett? He might turn out to be Scot’s sleeper pick. Love his attitude.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM

      Cant really blame the defense…the defense got three turnovers and jay gruden couldn’t find away to score only but 1x….the defense gave up three points on the jets first drive after halftime then five minutes later they back on the field because of kirk cousins INT they had no time to rest in the second half and thats not good for guys like pot roast or jason hatcher because they big guys and old …if the offense came out and did what they needed to do then redskins couldve won….and its a shame because we are a better team but we got a bad head coach and a bad QB starting

      • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:09 AM

        We can all agree that Kirk didn’t play well the second half but to say it’s ok for the defense to give up 17 3rd qtr points because of that pick is rediculous

      • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:14 AM

        The Jets had just under 500 yards of total offense. The “short field” argument isn’t holding water. Defense is a liability still and its ok to admit it. That wasn’t Tom Brady out there under center for the Jets but he looked that way at times thanks to the defense.

        • sidepull - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:01 AM

          2 weeks in a row gashed by opposition running attack…

      • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:46 AM

        But this is happening to most teams in the NFL that aren´t the Patriots or Green Bay. The defense is pathetic against the run right now so some blame definitely has to go on them for the last two weeks. In Atlanta for example we had the game locked down when the D let Freeman run right down the field to retake the lead. The defense didn´t make a single play on that drive to end the game and couldn´t stop a run to save their lives. They took that game into OT, not Cousins. At least to the extent we don´t just say that Atlanta are a pretty good team and not easy to stop. But regardless, it wasn´t Cousins´ doing that we ended up in OT there.
        The first Jets INT was much much worse and handed the initiative right back to them in spectacular fashion. It was a worse decision, a worse throw and on a broken play so it should have never been so much as considered. The pick 6 in Atlanta OT was thrown basically where it was supposed to on the play and Grant would have had a shot at catching it, or at least batting it down, if he hadn´t slipped. But the INT to Revis was just horrible all round and utterly inexcusable. If he had simply tucked and run or thrown the ball away that would not have happened and we might yet have won the game.

  10. colmac69 - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    This will b fun on this forum today


    Breeland….outstanding..gave up td (great play by marshall) but was xcellent

    Pass protection

    Considering line up we had they done great job…cousins was rarely under pressure which..just like last wk…asks questions why he so inaccurate?


    Looking like great decision to sign him and release Forbath


    Cousins…..bad ints esp first one…looked hesitant….

    Run offense/run defense

    Non xistent both ways….cousins b subject of most attention but just as concerning is both rush off and def….built to run ball but 35 for off and 200+ defense for second wk in row

    Record is what to xpect at 2-4…win nxt wk then bye hopefully get some guys back…lose and it could b long 9 games….

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:04 AM

      I agree with your point about kirk cousins and the kicker…scot m. Always finds talent its up to the head coach to play them tho

      • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:14 AM

        What talent did Scot bring in that gruden isn’t playing?

      • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:29 AM

        I’d say the jury is still out on the talent that Scot has provided. Some hits so far, but some misses too.Understandale. But I’m gonna see how the season plays out first.

        But it’s true what you say about coaches; some guys REALLY know how to “coach em up” and get em ready to play. (The two “rookies” we’ve faced the last 2 weeks seem to fall into that category, no?) Others, not so much. Which category does Gru fall into? (Aside from QB, that is; we already know his record for that position since he’s been in DC.)

        • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 5:29 PM

          To be fair Bruce, some of the talent from 2 seasons ago can be attributed to Scot as he was a paid consultant and talent scout for the team. We’ll never know if the team drafted his recommendations or not but it seems obvious they must’ve. They liked what he did enough to hire him to run the team.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:06 PM

          I did not know that!! Good intell.

  11. jscx3 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Season is over, they are not going anywhere. Every week i try to give gruden a pass, but he defends kc too much. please just fire him after the year. He gets out coached every second half of games. I feel that they have some good pieces to build on but, stop defending a backup playing starter. KC throwing behind high wide off target. Then he says it was a little windy today. I guess it stopped blowing when Fitzpatrick was on offense. What is sad is that the defense is good. The o just puts them back on the field faster. Grudens fate is going to be sealed when he gets his starters back. if the team continues to crap the bed with the so called talent back the gm and ownership have to be looking at a change. I do feel that this team is going the right way just need some one to get it to be put together.

    • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 1:05 PM

      Obviously you thought this team was special and not in the beginning of a rebuild. That’s a bummer for you that the season is over. The good news for the rest of us who knew this was a rebuilding year is, you won’t be in here complaining about the coach.

  12. jscx3 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    gruden is hanging himself, keep protecting kc. Both will be looking for work next year. The gm has to see that he kgets outcoached the second half. Four quarters. this team not even close to take anytime off in game. I do see fight .

  13. kenlinkins - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    If you are a football fan it is easy to see that the Redskins now have some young play makers and true NFL talent at some key positions. They are in fact getting better, but if you are just a Redskins fan you might be having a problem getting over the Cousins (INT, 2-4) / RG3 (not playing) / Gruden (3rd quarter problems, play calling etc.)concerns, all of which are still on the new GM’s “TO DO” list to fix. For the Redskins to still be in the Jets game until the 3rd quarter gives me hope that the Redskins are making the right moves and fixing the areas they can as they move forward. True, the Redskins should have been up big at the half and only scored 13 points when they had a shot a 21 or more, but just not being behind by 21 with that starting line up was step forward. Progress is being made even if it has not yet shown up in the win /lost record and should continue as the new GM looks towards 2016 and tackling the next set of concerns (i.e. QB, coaching, DB’s, center). Football fans know this while Redskins fans still just want to beat that same old dead horse (why can’t we win). This has been a good year to watch a few young guys grow into NFL players and learning to fight it out until the end. You have to agree it is more fun watching these Redskins then the 2013 or 2014 teams.

    • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 4:07 PM


    • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 6:43 PM

      Nice comments. Good job to the young players Moses, Sheriff, Thompson,Crowder, Ross,and Breeland

  14. greed - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    so…. I guess i wont complain and whine about gruden or kirk! I leave it up to u guys this week

    • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:07 AM

      Yeah, take the week off greed. We gotcha covered!

      • greed - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:48 AM

        lmao ! Brucefan1

  15. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    For people saying we should pick a QB: who would you pick? I don’t see anyone worth a top 5 draft pick, but you know one or two will go that high anyways.

    And where does that leave us (I don’t think we’ll be picking in the top 5)?

    No point reaching for a guy who isn’t going to be any better than some free agent…

    • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 10:46 AM

      I don’t think we’ll be top 5 either and I think that’s where Conner Cook goes but he’s tops of my list.

    • goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 12:46 PM

      I think we should go Free Agency with a Vet. Someone like Drew Brees would be interesting for a couple years. I could have faith in Brees under center for us but with someone like Rex Cousins I have no faith anymore. Rex Cousins is just to unpredictable and the INT bug has bitten him and its permanently in the blood stream.

      If I had to choose a QB out of the draft I am going to say Jared Goff even though I do not really like him. They call him the next Andrew Luck but that is yet to be seen. He is tall, has a little bit of mobility, good arm, accurate, and can read defenses.

      I rather see someone like Brees play for us since I know what he can do even though his arm is weaking. Getting another unproven college QB could leak to another draft bust like RG3 so I am weary.

      • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 PM

        Think about what your saying tho. You’d rather have a pricey vet with declining skills then a young guy who could grow into the system with a good team around him like what Scot did in SF and Sea.

        • goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:36 PM

          I know , its a tough one. If we get another young talent it needs to work out. We can not draft another Rg3. We can not spend years for the next draft pic to learn to become a pocket passer. If the guy is right I am all for the draft, however, the guy has to be right. I think Scott will make the right pick but these young college QB’s make me nervous.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:18 PM

          I gotta very odd one-of-a-kind prediction (unique not because it’s very odd, but becuz I usually disdain predications); that in the right situation RG3 will become the QB that the Redskins hoped he would be when they drafted him.

          Unfortunately, they’ll be watching him do that for some other team.

          (Oof, Phily’s really handing it to the NYG’s tonite!)

  16. goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    I am with Brian Mitchell. Lets see some Colt McCoy on Sunday. He can win some games he is just boring to watch. Colt McCoy! Colt McCoy!! Colt McCoy!!! or Rob I dont care! Rex Cousins needs to be back on the bench, 3rd string, inactive. He had his chance, 6 games, 4 with multiple INT’s. boooooooooooooooo

    • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 4:58 AM

      Ah yes, the INT watchers strike back. Too bad you don´t change into sack watchers and fumble watchers when you get your way though. Anyway, to people actually interested in football about half the INTs weren´t actually Kirk´s fault but were on the receivers and/or good DB plays. There are other stats to pay attention to besides INTs and in many of them Kirk is obviously the best option for the team. He doesn´t take sacks, he doesn´t fumble the ball as much and he does complete most of his passes, despite playing with André Droperts and other erratic receivers on the offense.
      Kirk has one problem: INTs because of occasional bad decisions and responding poorly to them. The alternatives have many problems and little prospect for improving on them this year, or any year for all i know. The odds of RGIII or Colt performing well in a WCO are a lot smaller than the odds of helping Kirk make better decisions when plays break down. Ergo you stay with kirk this year and make a change in the OS if it is needed.

      • goback2rfk - Oct 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Ah The Rex Cousins supporters are coming back out of the wood work. I am not sure how you can say Rex Cousins is not in the top 5 worst starting QB’s in the league.
        He basically has the worst passer rating in the league. 31st in QBR.
        The stats dont lie man. He stinks.

  17. hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 4:17 PM

    19 teams currently have 2 or fewer wins. Cousins and Gruden only effect one of those teams so what’s the excuse for the other 18? How in the world is Peyton manning sitting at 6-0 when you consider he’s thrown 7tds and 10ints to cousins 6&8? Why is Russell Wilson only 2-4 since he’s only thrown 3 picks? These anomalies must be answered because as some fans on here will point out, interceptions lead directly to defeat.

    • goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM

      INT’s lead directly to defeat for the Redskins because we are not good enough to overcome it. The Broncos score a lot of points on defense and give the offense good field position. Rex Cousins throws INT’s on our on 20 yard line. While the redskins defense looked good early in the season, lately, the defense looks like garbage. 0 SACKS last game. Kerrigan has 1/2 tackle the ENTIRE game against the Jets. Thats not going to get it done when we are missing junior gallete etc. We used to be good at stopping the run now we get thrashed for 200+ yards. No surprises here, the team is not that good. No pass rush whatsoever. Harvard wizard Ryan “noble” Fitzpatrick did not have any stains at all on his jersey after the game. Look at the video.
      When Ryan fitzpatrick shows up our QB we know we have big problems.

      • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 4:40 PM

        That’s my point. People are acting as if we win with anyone else playing QB. Manning throws a pick 6 and gets the win because his defense. Cousins throws a pick and Fitzpatrick is allowed to scamper 20 down the middle of the field for the score. There’s plenty of opportunities for improvement on this team, not just the QB. I personally think time and patience are all this team needs, ironically that’s the only fix this team hasn’t tried over the past 2 decades.

        • Skulb - Oct 21, 2015 at 5:01 AM

          Judging by the mad overreactions of many fans it isn´t very likely to happen this time either. They will end up having their way and then they will spend the rest of the season blaming the offensive line when the replacement gets sacked 12 times+ a game, just like they did last year.

      • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 5:24 PM

        Seriously? MetLife uses articulate turf. NOBODY has stains from plastic grass.

      • skinsgame - Oct 19, 2015 at 5:25 PM

        And the other thing is, when Fitzpatrick has a good game, it isn’t against our QB it’s against our defense.

        • goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:38 PM

          Fitzpatrick lead the week in QBR. Thats a problem folks. lol

          Did not think about the artificial turf thing lol. However, Fitz was untouched last week it seemed like. I do not think he was ever even hurried. What happened to Kerrigan? I know he is injured but everyone is injured.

      • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM

        If Cousins has the run game going and his deep threat there he doesn’t throw picks. Check out the games you will see. He can throw the deep ball just ask Moss and Dejax. He is not as bad as he looks Gruden is . It’s all about the right plays for the right time. If you really watch the game you will see its happening on both sides of the ball. Kerrigan is hurt and still playing with a hip injury. I watched the game yesterday and yelled at the TV for Gruden what were you thinking

    • bangkokben - Oct 19, 2015 at 5:58 PM

      How dare you try to make sense here?!!

  18. Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Ok the offense sucked but you can’t blame it all on Cousins. He played well in the first half did the best he could with the plays that were called out to him. His first interception was all on him he should have thrown it away. But the 2nd one was a desperation play called out by the coaches and they were ready for it. Still nobody on offense played well at all. That’s on the coaches and injuries to our starters. With a secondary as good as the Jets we needed the run game and I think that someone lost it. Again the coaches put too much on Cousins with the same outcome as last week and we lost. The defense no run stuffing or pass presure the secondary looked good or I should say Breeland looked good. Bad play calling on both sides of the ball is the only thing that can explain the whole team looking like that. The Washington Redskins present second half melt down coming to a field nearest you.

    • hail74 - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:40 PM

      Brian baldinger on the nfl network broke down the first pick pretty well. The jets showed 2 deep man but quickly switched to an underneath zone. Bad throw to your fourth read but also great defense. Had revis stayed man like cousins thought,the pass is complete

      • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:58 PM

        Gruden and company called the wrong play for the situation. Yes he should have thrown it away there is no excuse for that. If the play calling was better we would not be discussing this pick. Play calling is bad Expecially when it is Grudens 2nd year as head coach. He has not learned from his mistakes last season or so far this season. You can’t ask a young Qb to carry the team.

        • Rich Tandler - Oct 20, 2015 at 5:24 AM

          You can really look at that play and blame it on the call? Really?

          It’s not Madden. The players have to execute properly. In this case, they (specifically, the quarterback) didn’t.

        • Johnny B. - Oct 20, 2015 at 6:47 AM

          Yes no deep threat in the first half. In which should have been run at least 4 times. That would have opened up the run game a little also would have had less presure and coverage on the short passing game. Second half should have had some new concepts that are not on film to confuse the Defense. In which would have kept us on the field longer. No tired defense could have won. And we would have not been talking about this pick. This is the best way to run it on games that you should not win. That’s my opinion anyway.

      • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:01 PM

        Simple you can’t ask Cousins to carry the team too young and inexperienced.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:28 PM

          Actually, that is precisely (hey — “precisely”! I haven’t used that pet word in a long time!) what the opposition defenses are try to do — put the game exclusively in Cousin Kirk’s hands!

          Question is, when will the Skins start to impose THEIR will and force their opponents to do what THEY want to do.

          That’s when we’ll know we have a team!

  19. bangkokben - Oct 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    I couldn’t be more pleased with our kicker. 54 yards outside in windy conditions, down the middle with plenty to spare. Also, how can a kicker execute THREE excellent onside kicks out of three in a season and get none recovered? Can’t even make it interesting at the end of the games.

    Breeland was great in coverage but lost contain at least once in the run game.

    I’m rooting for the Eagles tonight. Of course we’re rebuilding but I’m all for winning the division during the rebuild.

    • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 6:29 PM

      Some of these people posting comments on here either did not watch the game or do not understand football. Some of these comments are actually amusing. Like this one. The Washington Redskins now present
      Second Half Melt Down coming to a field nearest you.

      • goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:58 PM

        My posts are a lot of times rants cause I want to complain to someone. And I want people to know how bad I feel. I have been watching the redskins for 58 years and am disgusted by what I see. When Brian Mitchell goes off I truly hear what he is saying. I have a deep passion for the Redskins. One of my bedrooms upstairs is painted with Glidden Washington Redskins Red with the trim painted in Redskins yellow.
        I am a die hard fan. I have autographed Joe Theisman helmets hanging on my wall. I have autographed Art Monk and Darrell Green jerseys hung up. I got the “Redskins Fans Only” sign hanging on the door.
        I live in NC near Bank of America stadium and if I lived near Washington I would be a member of Extreme Skins. My favorite basketball player is Kevin Durant (A long time Redskins fan that wants to buy part ownership in the franchise)
        If I complain a lot its because I love the Skins and want them to do better. All I want is to see another SuperBowl win before I die. HTTR!

        • Johnny B. - Oct 19, 2015 at 8:03 PM


        • brucefan1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 11:46 PM

          Awright, goback2rfk! Way to get it off yer chest.

          I’m sure you speak to the frustrations and disappointments of most of us here; fans for years, many who remember greatness (tho I gotta admit I’m even more impressed with those who don’t go back that far, but are STILL hard core!), but have only seen one “next-great-thing” after another fizzle out over the last 20+ years.

          We all need a place to kvetch a little, commiserate A LOT, and blow off some steam (obviously with AND at each other. LOL!) and this is one of those places.

          And hopefully we’ll also get to celebrate here with each other before too very long!! HTTR

  20. goback2rfk - Oct 19, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    The Colts fake punt FAIL was way worse than the Redskins Swinging Gate in my opinion. One of the worst plays I have ever seen. LoL

  21. brucefan1 - Oct 20, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Didja hear JON Gruden at the end of the Eagles’ MNF victory state that he “likes an owner that who backs his coach”, referring to Jeff Lauria’s support of Chip Kelly?

    What are the chances Jon mighta been making a backhand reference to the Jay/Danny dynamic too — which may not be quite so supportive, if the rumors of an RG3 rift between them is to be believed?? ;^} Archives

Follow Us On Twitter