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Need to Know: How many more wins for the Redskins this year?

Oct 17, 2015, 5:12 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, October 17, one day before the Washington Redskins play the New York Jets.

How many will the Redskins win?

The Redskins now sit at 2-3. Believe it or not, when the clock hits 10:00 to go in the second quarter tomorrow we will be a third of the way through the season. As I noted the other day, it doesn’t look like they are among the dregs of the league any more, even though they are far from where they want to be as a team. Yes, they have some injuries to fight through. But after the bye they could be as good as they will be all year.

On top of that, what appeared to be a tough schedule in the second half of the season is not a daunting as it originally appeared to be. After they play the Patriots in Foxborough to reach the midway point of their season, they play just three games against teams with winning records. Only one of those games, against the Panthers, is on the road. They play the Bills and Giants at FedEx Field.

So let’s get out the mythical $100 in poker chips (we haven’t done that for a while) and bet on how many of their 11 remaining games the Redskins will win. As always, you are welcome to play along in the comments section.

0-2 more wins–$10: This would be the meltdown that many expeced in August but now seems to be very unlikely. A 2-9 finish would likely cost Jay Gruden his job along with much of the rest of the coaching staff. A new quarterback likely would be on the way in the draft or in free agency.

3-4 more wins–$35: This would probably be splitting the remaining four division games and beating the Saints and home and/or the Bears on the road. If they can get back to being able to run the ball efficiently and stop the run this should be doable. We’re getting into an area here where jobs will be safe because the record would be improved from last year and Dan Snyder has never fired a coach who improved the record from one season to the next.

5-6 more wins–$40: Finishing with even a 7-9 record would certainly raise some eyebrows around the league and hope for the future among Redskins fans. They would have to get their injured players back to health and pull off a couple of wins that would appear to be upsets right now. Given the way the division is going, this could put them into playoff contention.

7+ more wins–$15: This would be the jackpot, almost certainly playoff contention and national relevance again. While I think it’s unlikely that this will happen, I am giving it a better chance than the bust scenario because I do think they are moving in the right direction.

Timeline

Today’s schedule: Travel to New Jersey, no availability

Days until: Redskins @ Jets 1; Bucs @ Redskins 8; Redskins @ Patriots 22

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  1. abanig - Oct 17, 2015 at 5:39 AM

    I agree with your Rich. My prediction before the season was 7-9. I still see that being how they end up.

    The skins won 1 game I didn’t think they would so far, and that’s the St Louis game. I think the skins will beat the saints at home, which I didn’t predict before the season.

    http://sonofwashington.com/groundhog-day-in-dc-predicting-redskins-season/

    • goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

      This if your prediction for Cousins back in August?!
      “64%, 4,400 yards, 27 touchdowns and 16 interceptions”

      ROFLCOPTERS! The 4400 yards is funny almost laughable but the 27 TD to 16 INT ratio now that is down right hilarious. Did you get the 2 mixed up? Maybe 27 INT to 16 TD?

      • jonevans511 - Oct 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM

        lol goback, he’s made several outlandish comments but let him live. nothing wrong with having hope, however misguided.

      • abanig - Oct 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM

        I made those predictions before the season based on him having a healthy DJax and Reed for most of the season. I don’t think he’ll reach those totals now. When DJax gets back Cousins will improve though and so will the passing game. When DJax Returns I expect Cousins to start throwing for another touchdown a game and anywhere from 50 to 100 more yards a game. As Cousins plays more this season, I expect his interceptions to cut down, particularly in the last 8 games similar to what Trent Green did in his only season as a Redskins starter in 1998.

        So while I don’t expect my original prediction to be met, I dint expect Cousins to be too far off from that.

        When Djax returns I see Cousins throwing for 285 yds, 2 tds and 1 int a game on average.

        285 x 10 = 2,850 yds
        2 tds x 10 = 20 tds
        1 int x 10 = 10
        __________________

        4,074 yards, 25 tds, 16 ints

        • goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 10:56 AM

          If Cousins can put up 4K+ yards with 25/16 I would be ecstatic. If he meets those numbers we will be winning quite a few more games. Lets hope the Spartan Legend can turn it around with some smart play.
          I want to see him take a sack every now and then instead of panicking and throwing it immediately to the hot route into coverage.

        • abanig - Oct 17, 2015 at 11:54 AM

          Based on Cousins’ projections w/ Djax in the game last year he threw for 285 yards a game, 1.7 TDs a game and 1.5 ints a game and 7 of his 9 ints were in two games where he had two bad second halves.

          If Kirk has started all the 15 games in 2014 after Griffin was hurt, he was going to throw for around 4,275 yds, with around 25 ints and around 22 ints.

          Kirk is not throwing quite as many ints as he did last year. This year it’s 1.2 a game. He’s throwing for 1 TD a game w/o Djax.

          Put Djax back on the team and you get an average of 2 TDs and 1.2 ints a game.

          So I’m not saying its definite he throws for around 4,074 yards, 25 yds and 16 ints, but it’s not as far fetched as most people believe it is.

  2. colmac69 - Oct 17, 2015 at 6:23 AM

    If they can get running game going along with defense playing same as right now then 5-6 more wins is distinct possibility….also getting Jackson back is key…u get him and fingers crossed reed healthy after bye wk then offense,,if line healthy and few turnovers…could b very potent

    It b very very poor if we couldn’t finish at least 6,7 wins at worst….but even the skeptics among us (which are many)can’t help but see we trending in right direction….what the team really nds is big road win to validate current progress…..they nearly got it last wk and if defense plays strong we got chance on sunday

  3. garg8050 - Oct 17, 2015 at 6:56 AM

    I still think this is a 7 win team. Pretty much given them a loss tomorrow; hopefully they can somehow pull off the upset, but I’m not optimistic. Need to beat the Bucs and go in to the bye 3-4. A 2-5 record into the bye would be a disaster, and probably put an end to Cousins time in D.C. as the starter. And then after the NE game, the NO game will be a big game. Ideally 4-5 heading to another tough game in Carolina.

    • sidepull - Oct 17, 2015 at 2:26 PM

      The buy cant get here soon enough. Need too rest and recoup some of the walking wounded and make the best of it after that. If they knew how to close out a game, killer instinct and all, they would be 4-1. Miami, Atlanta were there for the taking. New England, Pittsburgh, teams with longevity and stability close those games out. One day I suppose the Redskins will be capable of that type of domination. Just have to sty the course. I had thought they would win 8 but now I am going to say 7 games tops. Even when we get a starter back we seem to loose one at the same rate. Never seen anything like this. Snake-bit.

  4. knowledge - Oct 17, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    4

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    No Trent Williams? This is gonna be a tough game for Kirk and the gang,.
    ~

    • goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM

      I don’t think it will hurt Kirk to much with Trent out. Kirk throws the ball up regardless of who catches it. If he sees he is about to get sacked he throws the ball up for grabs. Kirk rarely takes a sack. Kirk rather throw an INT than take a sack. I expect to see Kirk throw 3 INT’s this game. If Desean Jackson is out he will throw only 2 INT’s.

      • hail74 - Oct 17, 2015 at 12:41 PM

        Take a look at the Barnidge catch for Cleveland against Baltimore. McCown under pressure throws a lob off his back foot into coverage but the TE made an amazing catch, they eventually win game and that play is all over TV. That’s football, if the play works your great, if it doesn’t than your making dumb mistakes.

  6. skinsgame - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    So much depends on the growing list of injuries. This is turning out to be a completely different team than they assembled back during the preseason. It’s impossible to predict wins when we don’t know who is going to play. I’m not as big of a believer in Trent Williams as most seem to be but he is clearly the best option at left tackle. Now he too is out and we’re testing the limits of the practice squad.

    • sidepull - Oct 17, 2015 at 2:31 PM

      You got a point there thats for sure. Not the same team by a stretch.

  7. bangkokben - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    I’ve been bullish on the team before training camp (7-9) I have Rich’s scenario’s reversed. $15, $40, $35, $10
    The injury bug continues to bite and that has the team in the 6-10/7-9 window. Of all the missing pieces for Sunday, Jordan Reed, is going to be the one that hurts the team the most. If they come out of the game more banged up they could be staring at 2-5 at the break.

  8. goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    6 – 10

    Another double digit loss season. If we remained healthy, which we did’nt 7 – 9 to 8 – 8 may have been possible.
    I think 6 – 10 is a safe bet.

  9. celeoinc - Oct 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    All these predictions are so bogus. 6-10, 7-9, etc Who cares! People act like if they are 6-10 this season they should be 8-8 next season, and 10-6 the following season. Guess what folks, they might not be as good next year as they are this year, We would be easily 4-1 right now if Junior Galetti and D. Jackson were playing for us. On the other hand we would be easily 0-5 if Trenr Williams and Ryan Kerrigan would both be out for the season with injuries. My point is, it is so silly to do predictions because injuries are such a key factor in how a team does. Does anybody think that the Ravens would be 1-4 if S. Smith is healthy? All teams have injuries, and that’s a fact, but it’s impossible to predict who is going to be injured. In our case, we better hope is not Trent Williams or Ryan Kerrigan.

    • Rich Tandler - Oct 17, 2015 at 11:09 AM

      Sorry, but you’re permitted to look the other way when other people are having fun.

      Lighten up.

  10. gonavybeatarmy - Oct 17, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    Las Vegas set the over-under at 6 well before the season began. Las Vegas isn’t always right, but over time the city’s bookmakers are right more than not. 6 still seems about right.

  11. Johnny B. - Oct 17, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    With our defense playing good and Dejax almost back I can now see a little more wins than before. I was going to be happy with 6 but now I can see 8 with 2 of them being upsets. Don’t ask me which 2 because you will laugh but I have been seeing things that would justify the 2 wins.

    • goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 5:21 PM

      You were not going to say they would go to New England and Win were you??!?

      • Johnny B. - Oct 17, 2015 at 5:32 PM

        No not The Patriots heck but we will give them a hard time.

  12. wncskinsfan - Oct 17, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    I am not worried about the wins/losses. I am thoroughly enjoying watching the culture of this team change as the depth gets challenged and the rebuild begins to brew. Next man up. We will definitely know what we have by the end of the season, and will be in a great position to take the rebuild to another level the following season, esp. since we will have some choice players coming off (and hopefully styfing off) IR. Maybe only one game with “garbage time” stats, these games have been fun and interesting to watch, but then again, I have been watching for 40 years. I have been hungry to see something like this, it could be a sustainable bit of development. I like the direction.

    • gasngo14 - Oct 17, 2015 at 6:16 PM

      I agree !!!

    • hail74 - Oct 17, 2015 at 6:37 PM

      I third this!

  13. goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Injury prone, dead, leg, Desean Jackson has been ruled out Sunday. Now has missed over 1/3 of the season because of a hammy. Hurts the offense and the running game big time. He is a liability at the WR position much like injury prone Reed at TE.
    The Jets are going to be begging Kirk “stare down” Cousins to throw it. They will stack Morris up for sure forcing Kirk to throw. Hope he has good stuff on Sunday cause he is going to have to throw it 30+

  14. Johnny B. - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    What do you think we could do with the Patriots with a healthy Dejax ,O-line and secondary. Can’t forget Reed. After a week off with rest and game planning. I think that we can give them a real hard time. Not to say that we are at that level but they would not score 40 points on our defense. Sure Brady can find a way to score but with the fight in this team this year it would be very hard on him. The best thing I can see about the Redskins this year is the fight that they have in them. From the starters on down they are going out there and giving it their all every game. Great start with the rebuild. HTTR

    • goback2rfk - Oct 17, 2015 at 9:57 PM

      I here ya Johhny B good. The Redskins are definitely on the right track. Looking like a team headed in the right direction for sure. It is not hard to better last year after all the RGme drama. I am excited to see what happens the rest of the season and next year. DJax and Reed and company will never be healthy all at once. They are injury machines. Jackson will “tweak” that hamstring sitting down at his computer to post his stupid Instagram photos next week. Reed is probably out till after the bye I would imagine. Either way we will have to move on without those 2 powerful weapons in Reed and Jackson. Love what Clam Chowder Crowder has been doing and Ross does not look half bad if given a chance. We will be good once again! Not like the days in RFK stadium but certainly contenders.
      Most of these posters on here are to young to remember real Washington Redskins football. Anyways, hope we win tomorrow. HTTR!

    • abanig - Oct 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM

      I think the Pats game will look like the Giants game, even w/ DJax & maybe Reed back by then. Expect the skins to stay with them early, the Pats to pull away before half time and in the 3rd quarter by a few scores. Then, the pats D will play softer in the 4th quarter, and the Redskins will score some.

      I think something like 31-17 Pats makes sense.

  15. Rich - Oct 18, 2015 at 2:26 AM

    Rich I was just wondering what your take is on the Skins difficulties in the second halves of games. I remember growing up and feeling like they were never out of a game even if they trailed at halftime. If seemed like Gibbs could always make the adjustments to exploit weaknesses in the second half. So with the Redskins of this year do you think they are being outcoached? Is it poor conditioning or just rotten luck? BTW I love the break the man in front of you mentality this team now possess. I think they can make a serious play-off push this year and with players returning from IR next year plus another good draft could be building something special.

  16. thomas - Oct 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    You will not win with cousins,he Is scared and he thinks he’s still at Michigan state,let’s be honest colt and Rg are better qb,Rg has not been healthy since Shannahan served him up for lunch ,no blocking,no running,no receivers where do you get these guys ,14 no vs,12, no vs,Ross ok 88 ok,Jackson well see,get it together Gruden make hard decisions like a coach should.

    • thomas - Oct 18, 2015 at 4:25 PM

      Yeah with a quarterback

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