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Need to Know: Takeaways finally come for the Redskins

Oct 12, 2015, 5:54 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, October 12, six days before the Washington Redskins play the New York Jets.

News, notes, and numbers, Redskins vs. Falcons

—Starting from their own 20 with 24 seconds left, the Redskins drove to a 52-yard Dustin Hopkins field goal to tie the game. It was the first time since at least 1994 that the Redskins have driven at least 40 yards for the tying score in the last 30 seconds of a game.

—In their first four games this year the Redskins did not allow a team to rush for 100 yards on them. The Falcons’ Davonta Freeman rushed for 153 yards on 27 carries on Sunday.

—Kirk Cousins threw two interceptions against the Falcons. He now has multiple turnovers in three of his five starts this year and six of his last 10 starts going back to last year.

—The Redskins had three takeaways, two interceptions of Matt Ryan and a fumble recovery. It is the first time the Redskins have had three takeaways in a game since the Week 12 of last year against the 49ers. The last time they had more was in 2013 in Week 8 against the Broncos (they recovered a fumble and, yes, picked off Peyton Manning three times).

—Rookie wide receiver Jamison Crowder was targeted eight time and caught eight passes. In the last three games he has been targeted 26 times and has caught. 21 of them. He has now led the team in receptions two games in a row.


Today’s schedule: Jay Gruden news conference 3:00 p.m. Comcast SportsNet

Days until: Redskins @ Jets 6; Bucs @ Redskins 13; Redskins @ Patriots 27

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Oct 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM

    Crowder is super clutch and is now close to our number 1 receiver. Garcon always great. Kirk does a great job moving the ball when it is do or die. Had Grant not slipped on that pass route to the sideline, I think we had the momentum to be sitting on a win. This game came down to luck unfortunately. Sure we missed one field goal, but made a key field goal as well. With Hoskins it felt much different in a 2 minute situation knowing you can take a shot with a reasonable chance from 55 yards out. That weighs on kirks mind differently knowing we can have a shot with a big leg. We have all the moving pieces to put together wins. If we had just 30% of our injuries starters back we might have a better shot. Defense did a good job creating turnovers. Why can’t we just have to luck to win the tough game. Honestly, it comes down to luck sometimes, and we rarely have it. Our team is much better this year than any team in the last 15 years. Kirk runs the offense much better than RGIII could ever. So the right people are in place. Every week is a big week. Next week another. Sure would like to win a few in a row. HTTR.

    • timwillhide - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:14 AM

      That was a bad throws period. Even if Grant wouldn’t have slipped. It was off target to where Grant was gonna be and a bit early.

      • wvredskins - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:29 AM

        If grant didn’t slip he would have at least been able to make a play on the ball to keep the corner from catching the ball. It was a bad throw no doubt about it but it was also a bad slip at a crucial time!

        • darcrequiem - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:16 AM

          If Grant didn’t slip, he may have been able to make the tackle. However he slipped because he was running a hook and Kirk threw an out route. I’ve watched the play few times. There was no way Grant get his hands on the ball before it reaches Alford.

        • skinsgame - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:31 AM

          He wasn’t “running a hook”, he ran a sit route. Obviously one of the two players were wrong on the route, but it was a timing pass he threw and if the receiver didn’t fall, there’s no telling what would’ve happened.

      • brucefan1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:50 AM

        Sure, Kirk threw a bad pick in the face of one of the few intense rushes that ATL put on him …. but at least he didn’t take a SACK! Because, according to him, THAT mighta spoiled the drive!!

        (You can’t make this stuff up, people. LOL)

        • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:54 AM

          If Grant doesn’t slip, at worst it’s a broken up pass. Both players were at fault on the play. I’d give more blame to Grant because he ran a poor route and also slipped on his route.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM

          Not seeing it that way, adam. I agree with those that feel that pass was way too near the sidelines for Grant to make a play on it.

          I think the best he coulda done was maybe latch onto Alford after the pick, but with the DB running straight into the ball, he mighta been hard to stop by anybody.

          Guess we’ll never know for sure, tho.

        • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 12:47 PM

          Watch Grant’s route. It might be the worse route I’ve seen him run in two years. He fakes like he’s going inside, then twirls to the outside and slips and falls as he’s twirling.

          If Grant gets his depth and cuts sharply to the left then he’s right there to catch the pass, at worse it’s broken up.

        • greed - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM

          he twirls to the outside because he see’s the ball flying past him and thats when he slips! It was a bad pass time to stop making up excuses for kirk this is what he is g QB who throws int’s when he under a rush, he been doing this since he came in the leauge

        • skinsgame - Oct 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM

          You guys are making more of his route than what it was. A little button hook sit route. Kirk thought he was running an out route. Grant slipped trying to adjust. One of them was wrong on the route tree. It isn’t about making excuses for anyone or pretending the pass was horrible.

    • mauriceatwood - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM

      You are living in a different world than me if you think all the pieces are in the right spot. Cousins, who I like by the way, is a multiple interception throwing threat every game he plays. There are simply too many cases of it happening already and the play calling of short passes is a reflection of that reality. Yesterday, he was over throwing or under throwing receivers all day. The pick six that ended the game was not the result of the receiver falling. The receiver went one way and the ball went the other way. It was a pick six whether the receiver fell or not. Schedule only gets tougher from here and the wins will become harder to find. This coaching staff other than the OL coach just isn’t doing the job. That defensive scheme on Atlanta’s final drive was just as bad as the offensive play calling we had after the turnover that led to a field goal late in the 4th quarter.

    • greed - Oct 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM

      you clearly just dont like rg3 -how can u make that statement when griffin hasnt played this yr-kirk didnt run it better last yr when they both played if i remember right he was benched to for mcoy and didnt get a win as a starter , oh lets see RG led a win over the eagles when they needed a win to make the playoffs still finished 10-6 then came bk had a strong game against the giants -Look we get it u dont like RG but to make comparisons when the man hasnt played in the reg season and tell me about preason when he had a gd showing for a quater in 1st game and got set up and murdered againrt DETRIOT shows your lack of football smarts

      • skinsgame - Oct 12, 2015 at 4:17 PM

        Switch most everything you said from Griffin to Cousins, then apply it to yourself.

        • greed - Oct 13, 2015 at 12:41 AM

          first i wasnt replying to you i was responding to colorofmyskinz somehow it posted in your reply 2nd sir i know plent football played at all levels ref and coach and the gentlemen i thought i was responding to likes to take shots at a player who hasnt played a snap instead

  2. sidepull - Oct 12, 2015 at 6:50 AM

    The drive for the tying FG to send them into OT was spectacular. Kinda of a huge high fiving moment only for the huge mood swing in the comlete opposite direction moments later. I actually thought Kirk was going to ice another win in the OT and then that doggone interception. Ripped the guts right out of the day. My oh my Pats on deck!

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM

      If rashad ross was more involved we could’ve won that game instead jay gruden wanna play his draft picks who fail to stay on his sometimes thats not the only time that ryan grant fall to the ground to only get picked off last week ryan grant drop a catchable ball and he got taken out the game and p.garcon had to come back in to win the game for us

      • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:44 AM

        Gruden doesn’t draft the players. There is plenty of blame that can be sent Gruden’s way – not sticking to the running game, going too much to the ineffective Jones instead of Thompson and Morris – especially in the critical drive that began on the Falcon’s 26. Passing to ball when Atlanta had six DBs instead of running the ball then. Then again, I suspect that the RB and WR rotations are set by the position coaches or predetermined based on the package.

    • brucefan1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM

      Shoot, they gotta worry about the 3-1 Jets, with that rock-ribbed defense (included Skins-snubbed Leonard Williams) before they ever face the Pats!

      If the shaky ATL defense shut down the Skins running game, can you imagine what the Jets’ front seven are gonna due to it?!

      (Thus putting all the onus on Kirk — WITHOUT the benefit of the deception play-action passing provides, and which the relies on so much.)

      The Skins defense better come up HUGE on Sunday … and not get gashed again by another good running team.

      • gasngo14 - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:16 PM

        Ohh that’s right bruce is a jets fan …i remember you talking jets …..LOL!

      • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 6:13 PM

        The only hope the skins have of beating the jets is if Fitzpatrick self destructs. The jets D might pitch a sit out against this offense.

        • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:43 PM

          That same Jet defense that was torched by the Eagles? These are two teams that have similar strengths and weaknesses. Whichever team is able to play the time of possession game will win.

  3. wvredskins - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:15 AM

    I like the way the team is playing but DAG ON we blew ALOT of opportunities to win this game easily. We couldn’t score off of any of the turnovers for one and when we were holding on to a 7-3 score we could not muster up a drive to put the game out of reach. But when we need to score most, cousins came through as long as crowder and Hopkins(- the pick 6) Crowder is an impressive player and is also clutch. We could not get the run game going but boy was there a lot of opportunities for us to throw. I believe Atlantas game plan was to stop the run and let cousins try to beat them. Cousins was alittle off on his throws but damn if garçon should have caught some of them passes especially the 1st int! I was always taught as playing wr my self if the ball touches your hands you should catch it especially being in the NFL. Kinda wish they would have changed the d up alittle bit cause freeman was killing us. Wish they would have put a safety on him cause really freeman is the only one that hurt us. As bad as we played we still had that shot at the end and At the end of the day it could have went either way. I like the direction we are going. I think Kirk is going to grow from this game and really improve in the next few weeks.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:48 AM

      The first INT that was to p.garcon that wasnt p.garcon fault that pass was wayyyy behind and he was just tryna catch it for kirk cousins….kirk cousins threw alot of bad passes yesterday witch is why I say he cant be the franchise guy nor jay gruden cant be the head coach next year its slowing down this team…I think if they can bring in a college coach with a college offense that can put up alot of points with the talent we got it will be unstoppable chip kelly fail to keep his talent bring in somebody like art briles from baylor redskins will score 30+ points a game I guarantee you that

    • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:55 AM

      I too played WR and come from the same school of thought. HOWEVER, the way Cousins was throwing the ball in the 2nd quarter, it was just a matter of time before he threw the pick. There were like four passes in a row that receivers barely got their hands on. Again, that play did not hurt the ‘skins because FRANCHISE QB MATT RYAN turned the ball over. Three times in the game, btw. And other than the strip sack, none of those were forced.

      As for the ‘skins suddenly anemic running game, is this because other teams know how to attack the scheme or is it coincidentally connected to Lauvao’s injury? Sure we stuck to the running game last week and got two big runs by Morris in the 4th quarter and the one scamper by Thompson, but otherwise it was much of the same – zero to two yard gains.

      • ET - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:40 AM

        “As for the ‘skins suddenly anemic running game, is this because other teams know how to attack the scheme or is it coincidentally connected to Lauvao’s injury?”

        Excellent question. I suspect it’s a little bit of both. The Falcons seemed well-prepared for the run game. As far as I can tell, Long is playing fairly well, but Lauvao was really firing off the ball much better this season. I’m also not sure how well Licht is doing. He seems overmatched at times.

        Regardless, the trend in our run game is troubling with the Jets are coming up. It’s difficult to imagine the Skins turn it around against the Jets’ front seven.

        • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM

          Lichtensteiger yesterday looked horrible. Back to his first season here where his replacing Dockery seemed like the result of a blackmailing scheme.

  4. wvredskins - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    If we can win these next two games which are winnable games for us we can be 4-3 going into our bye week. I don’t really want to say these our must win games but yeah these or MUST win games to have a chance for post season cause or schedule is only going to get tougher cause after the bye we have patriots, saints, panthers and giants and then the cowboys. We are headed in the right direction but damn if we are a play here an inch here away from being 4-1.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM

      Jets had two weeks to prepare for us …a more healthy team always win the game plus redskins are 1-19 on road wins under jay gruden as head coach if that aint bad then idk what is… all because he didnt have jordan reed he decided to only throw it to the tight end twice

    • cmehustle - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM

      I feel the optimism here. Our problem is everyone knows we want to run the ball and manage the game with Cousins. Everybody knows this. Do you think we can keep running the ball down teams throats with no blocking from out TEs? 5 and 7 yard passes and hoping they get YAC wont cut it. We need the big play to take the pressure off the running game. Can Deshawn come in and provide that again? Idk, but we dam sure could use it.

  5. mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 7:32 AM

    My take away from the game is that jay gruden is holding this team back from having a winning record….how the hell you not gonna try to go for the touchdown after the breeland INT…thats bad decision making for jay gruden and that will make a locker room not believe in the head coach…that offense had to many chances to put up points and they fail to that because jay gruden dont make adjustments like he should after halftime….all season long they fail to put up points in the third quarter….I keep telling yall dont get hype on the kirk cousins juice because he just flat out miss some wide receivers who was open yesterday…for some reason jay gruden refuse to put rashad ross in more when he deserves it I keep saying hes the fastest guy on the field nobody cant contain him and to see they only threw the ball deep one time yesterday is the most stupid thing I have ever seen in my life…jay gruden rather play his draft picks instead of playing who deserves more reps

    • hail74 - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:02 AM

      Yesterday the team could’ve quit like in the past but didn’t. On the road against an undefeated team who just scored the go ahead with less than 30 seconds left. Would’ve been easy to hang their head and quit, but they didn’t. To me that’s a team that believes in the program and themselves. The team is growing together and there’s a new attitude now. You can cheer for Art Briles if you want but personally I’d rather see what the skins can become with some consistency for once rather than some flashy over the hill college coach.

      • ajbus1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Completely agree hail74. There continues to be evidence of a culture change and consistency is part of that. No more knee-jerk reactions and swapping of coaches and players every few years. Luckily Scott McC gets it.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM

      How can they grow together but the head coach making bad decisions for the team….was you saying that third quarter ???? Last year and this year this offense come out flat in the third quarter like they dont believe in jay gruden game plan…halftime is all about making adjustments and jay gruden fail to do that yet again this year…im sorry I dont except average play nor average play calling…

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:27 AM

      Its fans like you that except anything I expect great play calling regardless of injuries…you think joe barry didnt call the plays he want because he didnt have most of his secondary NOPE but when it comes to jay gruden he just make bad decisions when he dont got a guy he want on the field but overall he made some bad decisions on the road….explain this since they growing together….why they threw it deep once to rashad ross the fastest guy on the field??? Before halftime on a third and 10 at the 50 yard line why run a screen play to chris Thompson when the falcons defense already sniff out that play a couple times before??? why not call a play to pick up 5 yards so atleast your kicker can kick a field goal from the 45 instead of the 53 yard line???….growing together please I laugh at that the players only playing for kirk is because they dont have a choice because its jay gruden decision…

    • bohurley421 - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:59 AM

      Exactly right! People are saying we didn’t have luck but oh yea we did that int had to be followed by a TD but gruden was scared and called bone head plays. You can’t leave 2 mins on the clock with mat ryan and only be up a few points matt ryan is one of the best in the 2 minute situation. We had the momentum and Jay killed it.

    • goback2rfk - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:23 AM

      I do not blame Kirk at all. He is a back up QB tying to play the starter role. Ultimately, Kirk is a lifelong backup and will be a great #2 guy. Hopefully, he stays around after this year to be just that, a #2 backup QB like he should be.
      Now for Rg3, nothing more than an inactive distraction. Wearing a pink head band around, camera cutting to him on every INT. They need to play him or get rid of him. Why the heck is he traveling for the games anyways if he is inactive and undressed. I still think it was dumb not have given Rob a chance to prove he sucks in the regular season but oh well its Kirks team. The Skins coulda, shoulda, woulda, won that game for sure.
      Oh well, we are onto the Jets. Should be another multiple INT game for Cousins in store, cant wait.

      • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM

        Hilarious how you drag Griffin in to this. Just hilarious

        • darcrequiem - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM

          Why do people keep bringing Griffin up? He’s not active. So it’s a moot point. This isn’t the first game of the season when they kept flashing to Griffin after every play. They were showing Kirk with McVay. The QBs are together on the side lines. If they show Kirk and McVay you are going to see Griffin as well.

        • goback2rfk - Oct 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM

          I am glad you are amused. But is not Griffin the elephant in the room?! Wont we always talk about him until he is gone.

        • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 5:43 PM

          I’d say people are using Griffin as an excuse for why Cousins might mess up in a game.

          I go back to the fact that Griffin has always had to deal with Cousins since the day after he was drafted and it was clear pretty early on in 2013 that the Shanahan’s favored Cousins over the qb the team took 2nd overall.

          So don’t give me this whoa me Kirk Cousins crap or how Griffin is screwing this team and keeping it from winning because he’s on the team still. The players who are playing shouldn’t be worried about that, and if they are, they aren’t the players we want on the team past this year.

        • brucefan1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:17 PM

          As I’ve opined before goback, we Skins fans will prolly be talking about Griffin long after he’s out of B&G …. with us monitoring if he’s regained some of his 2012 magic; if he’s using his legs effectively again; if he’s improved as pocket passer; and most importantly if he’s leading his new team to a better record than the Redskins have.

          If he can answer most of those in the affirmative, RG3 will be a topic of much conversation in Redskin Nation for the foreseeable future, imho.

          Only if he goes into a complete eclipse, or the team flourishes without him, will he not be a source of controversy years to come.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:42 AM

      I don’t think rg3 is a distraction to the team…but I do think they keeping him around for the next head coach and using this year to learn how to read different defenses…I think we might see colt mccoy after the bye week if we lose the next two games we might see rg3 dress this year but he will be second string after the bye week once kirk cousins get bench for losing three straight…kirk cousins gotta have a bounce back game next week to not feel the pressure of the media and he should know how that goes from last year

  6. mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Lets be real here the only reason
    Why the falcons stop the run was because for the fourth game this season jay gruden decide to only throw the ball deep 1x or not at all and you gotta throw the ball deep a couple times to open up the run and jay gruden fail to do that once again

    • skinsgame - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM

      Explain the success of the running game in the 1st three games then. We haven’t had a legitimate deep threat this whole season.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:04 AM

      No excuses we got rashad ross so thats not an excuse to only throw deep 1x a game or not at all…along with jay gruden bad decision making

      • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM

        Definitely true, not going more play action and throwing deep to Ross doesn’t make sense.

        Also, as far as the run blocking game goes I think it was Cooley, Sheehan or Doc that said Anthony McCoy was really horrible as a blocker. Whomever said it said that they shouldn’t even play Anthony McCoy, they need to start using Tom Compton as the blocking TE. Putting Compton at TE will help the running game become more constituent again.

    • cmehustle - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:59 PM

      Dude, this isnt Madden. It takes more than speed to succeed in this league. You need matchups, blocking, and scheming to get deep passes. So many speed guys have failed in this league. Go back to your playstation and stop thinking youre smarter than every coach in the NFL.

      • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 5:30 PM

        Didn’t Ross get deep on Alford and draw a pass interference?

        Ross also had a 43 yard reception last week against the Eagles also.

        It’s pretty clear we should be trying to go deep with him once a half, if not more. They have to try to stretch the defense.

    • greed - Oct 12, 2015 at 3:23 PM

      VERY TRUE main reason running game is sputtering is GRUDEN! He succeded in getting RG out the lineup now he doing same BS To AL MORRIS it started last yr when he called Alf out saying he was missing holes, morris and jones are workhorses who needs to be fed the ball lean on the D wear them down they get stronger the more carrys they get and game goes on , theese guys ardnt the type of back who thrives on one two carrys then come out for the next bk to get one two carrys -ALF should get the rock atleast 25 times every week with jones getting 15 and couple more touches in passing game/its a damn shame the way he treating ALF he reliable perinnial 1000 yrd rusher if you want to treat him like trash move on from him trade him to the broncos or some team who will appreciate him cause clearly GRUDEN doesnt !

  7. timtowe - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    It seemed like we played not to lose instead of to win. One real deep ball that was called for PI. Other than that, it was dink and dunk all the way down the field. Disappointed that we don’t take any real shots down the field. I understand take what the defense gives you, but with a few deep shots we might have gotten them to not put that eighth man in the box.

  8. mauriceatwood - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:38 AM

    Who are we kidding here? That game was completely mishandled by the coaching staff. After we get the turnover deep in their territory late in the 4th quarter the 3rd down call was horrible and we have to settle for 3. Cousins was all over the place either under or over throwing receivers all day. His being the starter is once again on the coaching staff. The little things that matter most which in the end has been the curse of the Redskins for quite some time all come down to coaching or the lack thereof. Both of Cousins interceptions were his fault not the receiver bobbling the ball or slipping and falling. Cousins will be back out there next week and when he is the quarterback a multiple interception throwing game is always a possibility. It has happened too many times to be proven otherwise. If this happens again, it will be because of coaching decisions that allowed it to continue to happen.

  9. abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Really unfortunate the way the skins lost the game. It’s also unfortunate Jay didn’t kick the extra point after the Jones touchdown. If he had, the skins win the game in regulation.

    • cmehustle - Oct 12, 2015 at 3:00 PM

      He had no way of knowing that would happen. At the time, going for two was defintely the right call. Didnt turn out that way, but thats just monday morning QBing at its finest.

      • abanig - Oct 13, 2015 at 6:02 AM

        You know I’d agree with you if I didn’t yell at the TV at the time, “why are we going for 2!” Oh? To get up 3, but that point could come back to haunt us later in the game if we don’t make the conversion.

        • greed - Oct 13, 2015 at 8:38 AM

          agreed-never chase a point unless t have to -he was playing not to loose and it ended up being bad decision

        • Rich Tandler - Oct 13, 2015 at 8:55 AM

          That’s odd. I’ve never heard going for two defined as “playing not to lose”.

          If they kick one and everything plays out as it did (not necessarily a given), the Falcons go for two after their TD with 24 seconds left. Are you going to tell me that Freeman getting two yards wasn’t a sure thing?

        • abanig - Oct 13, 2015 at 11:28 AM

          Impossible to know. Our run D has been pretty good at short yardage. We just keep getting gashed when teams use outside zone because quick backs such as Freeman find cut back lanes.

          If our D had a break after that last Atl TD, then yeah I think we could have had a chance to stop them.

          We’ll never know though. I’d rather take those odds though than the ones Gruden did. I’d rather make ATL have to decide on having to go for a 2 point conversion there so they would stay up by 3, instead of just 2.

    • ajbus1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      I thought that was more frustrating than the pick at the end. Thing is had both teams played mistake free, we woulda lost anyway.

      • abanig - Oct 13, 2015 at 6:15 AM

        While true, our defense forces our turnovers. The int that resulted in the pick six in overtime came because of miscommunication, a bad ball and the WR slipping.

        • ajbus1 - Oct 13, 2015 at 8:43 PM

          I’m talking about all mistakes, not just turnovers. Don’t forget about the missed field goals.

  10. celeoinc - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    You can say all you want about the pick, but it was a bad throw and way to risky. Now…Why do you change your defense strategy when is working well all game long and it is being effective. Why? Why don’t you try to score a TD after Breeland Interception? Why? Good coaching for 95% of the game. Terrible coaching for the most important 5% of the game. At the end we played not to lose, and what happens when you play not to lose? You lose. Tough one. Instead of earning the respect of the national media once for all, we will be viewed as the same old Redskins. It is up to us to beat a very tough NY Jets on Sunday before the bye week.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:08 AM

      Not good coaching in the third quarter the defense held up good in the third quarter but jay gruden continue to fail to make adjustments after the half and we come out struggle…and jay gruden is a offensive guy theres no way we should have offense problems

    • ajbus1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      Spot on there celeoinc. Gotta give Gruden a chance to grow as a head coach and hopefully he’ll clean up that 5%. I was recently reading an article about the Rooney’s and why the Steelers have only had three head coaches since 1969. Dan Rooney said that their philosophy is simply to hire a guy they believe can do the job and then let him learn and grow. Seems to work pretty well for them. I’d like to see Gruden get at least two more seasons beyond this one and hopefully Scott McC has assembled a more talented roster by then.
      Really hope we can upset the Jets but…

  11. chris - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    We lost cuz of that prevent to win defense. All that defensive fight all game and we let them go down the feild like we weren’t on the field at the end

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM

      They was on the field way to much bottom line jay gruden should’ve tried to scored instead he wanted to take time off the clock in the red zone witch is the most stupidest thing I ever seen if we score we go up by two scores under 4:00 mins to go and game is over

  12. gonavybeatarmy - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    What an entertaining game. Who honestly thought the Skins would go on the road to Atlanta, play a very flawed game with several key players out and still have a legitimate chance to win in OT?

    As they say, there are no moral victories. But the Skins play with a lot of heart. And ultimately this could still be a 4 or 5 win team. But this organization seems to be in a better place than it was in 2013 and 2014.

    • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:04 AM

      Well said. I thought going into the game that the Redskins had a legitimate chance of winning but if you were going to tell me that the running game would be anemic, the QB would be horribly inaccurate for stretches, and the defense wouldn’t be able to stop the run; I’d say there would be no chance to win.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM

      Its the same team from last year but with less drama…head coach still making stupid mistakes and no adjustments bein made after halftime

      • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM

        You certainly have your opinion. I will agree that the 3rd quarter has been troubling but that’s about it.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM

      I take it back we a better team but ill offense still struggling for the second year in a row under jay gruden who suppose to fix it

      • ajbus1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:09 PM

        Give it time. He’s only been a head coach for a year and a half.

    • ajbus1 - Oct 12, 2015 at 9:09 PM

      Yes Sir! HTTR

  13. bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    So close to being over .500 at this stage of the season since Zorn. Ugh.

    Was anyone surprised that Kyle Shanahan’s offense ran the ball well, had trouble protecting its quarterback, put up a bunch of yards, and turned the ball over?

    No. That’s pretty much it’s staple. More yards than points. Great between the 20s. And some back that no one has heard of before the season becoming a household name.

    • mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:32 AM

      I wasnt surprise…kyle shanahan made adjustments after the half like he do every game why you think we went on a 7 game winning streak when he was with the redskins…jay gruden dont make adjustments after the half they set a game plan and follow by it the whole game instead of finding out what the other team is doing to you and take advantage of it to try to win the game

      • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:45 AM

        Kyle was the offensive coordinator for four seasons. So if you want to highlight that one magical 7-game stretch in 2012 and attribute it to HIS half-time adjustments – go ahead. But then how did those half-time adjustments work in 2013 when the team lost it’s final eight games? Hmm smarty pants?

      • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 11:10 AM

        Like his half-time adjustments in 2013 when the team finished 3-13 losing its final eight games?

        The Redskins HAVE to get better in the 3rd quarter. No doubt. As to why it’s not happening, I’m still blaming the execution of the players but if this trend continues, I might be swayed. 1st drive of the 3rd quarter was a missed 52-yard FG that had 2nd and 5 on ATL’s 27. -5 yards on a Jones run. Atlanta calls timeout on 3rd and 10 and then -3 yards on a screen to Thompson. Bad calls or bad execution or both?

        My point is that the team is improving and perhaps with patience this area will improve as well. There is no guarantees that changing coaches will bring improvement or have you not noticed the evidence of the last 20 years? Even Joe Gibbs didn’t bring back the half-time adjustment on round two. You and I both noted Gruden making adjustments during the game in previous weeks. So it’s not like it’s not happening or that Gruden is incapable but the team has to be better in the 3rd quarter.

    • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 12:39 PM

      Exactly I felt the same way and disagreed with the CSN commentary after the game that Kyle beat us. The Falcons D & Quinn beat us. They scored the points in OT also w/ Alford’s pick 6.

    • ET - Oct 12, 2015 at 1:56 PM

      Not surprised that a “no name” back would run well in Kyle’s scheme, but I was surprised that the run was so effective against the Skins. Not easy to do, even if our front seven is perhaps not as impenetrable as some of us thought. Our banged-up secondary showed some fight, though. Happy to see some defensive takeaways happen, whether they’re baked in to Shanny Jr. offense or not.

      • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:18 PM

        I’m happy with the takeaways too. I’m not sure if the turnovers are “baked” into the offense or not. It may just be coincidence, who knows? What I do remember is that running tally when the Shanahans were in charge of how many games in a row that a Redskins’ QB had turned the ball over. It was somewhere close to 30 and then snapped during 2012. Then 2013 is began all over again.

  14. mr.moneylover - Oct 12, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Just look at who will be a free agent next year…alot of talent will be on the market…another year of scot m. Working his magic will help this team alot

    • abanig - Oct 12, 2015 at 12:36 PM

      Spending too much in FA isn’t the way to build a championship team

  15. John - Oct 12, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Kirk played well enough and puts them in a position to win. Sometimes bad play calling hurts them. Ryan Grant for all the hype about a “great route runner” has’nt done much this year when given the opportunity. Kirk will perform better when DJax and Reed are back. Defenses will stuff the run and try to take away Garcon and Crowder until another threat emerges at receiver or tight end.

  16. greed - Oct 12, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    im really tired of gruden , rg haters and people making up excuses for kirk, plain and simple he threw the ball behind garcon -grant cuts in kirk throws way to the outside grant slip cause he seen the path of the ball and was trying to turn bk other way ,plain and simple 2 BAD PASSES-four yr into his career this is what cousin has shown he can move the ball mostly against inferior talent and is good with short passing game but when facing an rush or attempting to make multiple passes down field he’s erratic and makes costly int’s- GOODLUCK next week against Revis island and daddydaycare Cromatie not to mention 1st round pick Buster Screen who thrives in the nickel guarauntee 2more int’s next week

    • skinsgame - Oct 12, 2015 at 4:29 PM

      And I’m really tired of reading your constant whining about Gruden and Cousins. I’m tired of you pretending that Griffin is good because Cousins isn’t yet. Go be a fan of a team that isn’t learning to get better. Why waste your time here? You’re better than this. You’re Greed, dammit!!

      • greed - Oct 13, 2015 at 1:18 AM

        dont read then cause i call it like i see it ! I like kirk and support him bv when makes mistakes im gonna call him out same way i would with rg my point is stop trying to justify cousins mistakes by comparing him to what rg wouldve done when we havent seen him touch the field, damn stop the what ifs im just pointing out to the monday morning QB’S i can say what if to what if rg was playing behind this clearly better O-LINE what if he played with a strong DEFENSE what if gruden cater the passing game to his strength playactio rollout what if he commited more to the run and what if COLT MCOY was afforded the same things see my point im critisizing cousins cause he the ond takin the snaps and making the mistakes i like all 3 qb all have there own qualities and i want skins to win 20 yrs of losing after 10yrs of being one of the model franchises we should all be mad grumpy and not playinp fav and making exscuses for mediocre play

    • bangkokben - Oct 12, 2015 at 10:59 PM

      I’m also tired of your same song. You imply that Cousins has to be perfect. WTF?! What about Matt Ryan? What fan wouldn’t take him over our batch of QBs? Yet, he threw TWO BAD INTERCEPTIONS! How many years has he been playing? He threw two directly to our team – a team that can’t buy an interception. Matt Stafford threw three and got benched. Aaron Rodgers threw two picks yesterday. Peyton Manning is the only AFC QB with more INTs than TDs. Dan Marino holds the NFL record for pick sixes. Interceptions are part of football and what to expect with ANY young QB starting his first season. Cousins will throw 20 picks this season if he plays the entire year. EVERYONE knows it and expects it. How he responds and how the TEAM responds are what is important. Until the TEAM has issue with it, why should we?

      • timwillhide - Oct 13, 2015 at 2:47 AM

        Bang Cousins has hit defenders directly in the hands and the defender dropped it 20 times in 19 games 14 starts. If they would have caught them balls Cousins could be sitting at 52 turnovers in 19 games 14 starts Thats why people don’t trust him.

        • abanig - Oct 13, 2015 at 5:05 AM

          Tim it doesn’t really matter if a defender drops a possible int or breaks up a pass. I understand what you’re saying but it still is never and int. That’s like saying well he almost had this touchdown or that touchdown so let’s count them as if he did.

          On the flip side there are several times every game this year where a ball hits our WR in the hands and they catch it or our OL/TE holds someone after a big gain. Those are drive killers.

          Are we going to start tallying up every time a WR catches a pass or every time a gain gets called back because of a hold to make Cousins stats look better?

          No we’re not, so the “yeah but he could have thrown an int” doesn’t matter either.

        • bangkokben - Oct 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM

          Like I said, until the team has issue with it, I don’t. Say what you will but there is no chatter from unnamed team sources that want to see what Colt can do or believes anything other than Kirk is the best QB for this team.

      • greed - Oct 13, 2015 at 8:25 AM

        look lets not compare kirk to some of the current or past great qb’s yea those guys threw picks but those guys improved their decision making learned from their mistakes my point is he ‘s not a young wet behind the ears qb he has plenty of game experiences and he makes the same mistakes , all im asking for is improvement . How many times is he going to throw the ball falling away off his back foot facing a rush , or throw the ball up for grabs . if your to sensitive to read critisism dont read it because im going to point out any player regardless of positiom age race and coach who constantly makes the same mistakes repeatedly

        • abanig - Oct 13, 2015 at 8:30 AM

          Kirk has improved from year to year. We don’t even have Djax and we are still being efficient in the passing game and almost winning games.

          Most people had us being blown out on Sunday yet, we took them to overtime. That’s better than any other teams in our division did against the Falcons and unlike the Cowboys & Giants, we played Atl on the road.

        • bangkokben - Oct 13, 2015 at 3:02 PM

          “those guys threw picks but those guys improved their decision making learned from their mistakes”

          EXACTLY! Cousins has 16 games professionally. So go ahead with your criticism – even if it is selective to Cousins. Every great QB has had the same struggles Cousins has had. Does that mean he’ll get to their level. Not necessarily but it DOESN’T mean that he is a finished product – which is what you continue to say irregardless of the contrary evidence. To that, I will always respond – as I did to the Griffin bashers. If you don’t want by rebuttal, post new stuff. Archives

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