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Need to Know: Five areas where the Redskins have improved this season

Sep 27, 2015, 5:04 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, September 27, seven days before the Redskins host the Eagles.

Five areas where the Redskins have improved this season

The Redskins are 1-2 and what they have done wrong has been discussed and rehashed in great detail. But they have been doing some things right and at this point, just under a fifth of the way through the season, the numbers are beginning to take on a degree of statistical significance. Let’s take a look at some of them.

Third down conversions—The Redskins have converted 44.4 percent of their third downs, compared to a pathetic 31.5 percent last year. Their rushing game has helped but even against the Giants, when they struggled to run, they converted at a 40 percent clip (6/15).

Opponent passer rating—Last year even average quarterbacks played like Ben Roethlisberger against the Redskins as they had a 108.3 passer rating against them. This year they guys they play against are more like Derek Carr. A 96.3 rating isn’t quite where they want it to be but it is a significant improvement.

Points allowed per game—After giving up 27.4 points per game last year, nearly a touchdown per quarter, they are down to 19.7. Their current average ranks eighth in the NFL.

Sack percentage (offense)—Kirk Cousins has plenty of flaws and the offensive line still has to gel but between them they are doing a much better job at avoiding sacks. Last year the Redskins were sacked on 9.6 percent of their pass drop backs. This year the rate is 3.6 percent. That has undoubtedly helped them with their third down conversions (see above) since they don’t have as far to go.

Red zone scoring—The Redskins have scored a touchdown on 66.7 percent of their red zone possessions. Last year they punched it in for six from inside the 20 just 47.9 percent of time.

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Sep 27, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    Significant improvements! Most notable being points allowed and sack rate.

    Would the Giants game have gone the way it did had we not allowed the blocked kick? The answer is no!

    We lost our first game to special teams and penalties and we lost the gusts game largely due to special teams and penalties.

    So the question remains, why are we still putzing around with Kotwica?

    He had a 7th round draft pick Hocker and chose Forebath over Hocker, wasted the pick. Only to later pick the guy who just lost to Hocker.

    We have consistently been in the bottom of the NFL on every special teams measure. We were horrible before he came and I actually believe we are worse with him as coach. Hard to be worse than last place.

    FIRE KOTWICA PLEASE AND GET A PROVEN SOECIAL TEAMS COACH!!

    • hail74 - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:06 AM

      If you go look at saints reports from training camp you’ll see that Hopkins was projected to beat out Hocker all summer it was just towards the end the Hocked became a little more consistent. Far to big a deal is being made out about getting the guy who was beat out.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

      “So the question remains, why are we still putzing around with Kotwica?”

      I’m amazed you are infatuated with the least significant issue on this team. I guess you’ll do anything to divert it way from the play of the QB. The special teams got us as many points as our QB did. Keep diverting that fact!

      • colorofmyskinz - Sep 27, 2015 at 11:11 AM

        So the blocked punt with TB did not kill our momentum?? It killed the Broncos in the Super Bowl.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM

          What killed the Redskins momentum against the Giants was missing open receivers for touchdowns and piling it on with interceptions that gave the said team an easy touchdown. That blocked punt only cost of a safety. The defense stopped them on the subsequent drive. The Cousins INT cost the team a touchdown and then the easy one to Reed and then the following miss on Garcon resulted in field goals for the offense. Cousins is the biggest difference in every lost we have so far. Hell, Cousins even cost the team a net 4 points when he poorly under threw a wide open Grant against the Rams. The drive ended in a field goal instead. Enough with the bogus excuses about special teams hurting us the most. No one is buying that sales pitch.

        • hail74 - Sep 27, 2015 at 6:44 PM

          I would say Reed’s penalty negating a 25 yard Chris Thompson catch and subsequent multi penalty punt sequence resulting in a safety killed our momentum. Not bailing out cousins for a bad performance just my opinion

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:57 PM

          I agree Reed has really impacted drives with penalties. So did Lich on the holding call during that Crowder bubble screen that went for over 20 yards. However, I was really commenting on what the biggest contributing factor is that has the team at 1-2. The special teams is not the biggest contributor. If we can just get Cousins to hit his open targets then I’d even settle for some INTs from him. However, Cousins has been mostly off target while still throwing costly interceptions all season. I hope he can tighten up his passing since we don’t need him to be an elite QB to help us be competitive this season.

      • gasngo14 - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:30 PM

        rg3 is not our QB so stop your crying about the QB position already …please take your posters down in moms basement :)

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:57 PM

          Go troll somewhere else you little man

        • gasngo14 - Sep 27, 2015 at 6:50 PM

          nameishere AKA jdhawk you are trolling with your rg3 cry …that’s why you were no where to be found after the win :)

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:02 PM

          Look troll, most of my comments on this page have been about Cousins and nothing about RG3. As a matter of fact you are bringing up RG3 on a comment that has nothing to do with him at all. Seriously, I never see you post anything of value here. You just make immature accusations towards other fans. You’re obviously just some antagonists and certainly are not a valued fan of the team or the game.

        • gasngo14 - Sep 28, 2015 at 3:16 PM

          nameisheretostay …or AKA jdhawk you continue to bash cousins and cry for robert but after the win you were nowhere to be found for almost a week so yes you are here trolling and stiring the pot because rgme is not starting at qb :) go change your name again …ha! or is it true nameisheretostay …….lmao!!!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 3:58 PM

          I was posting comments on the 22nd. I was hiking and traveling after the game until Tuesday. Who are you to question when I comment? And again what value are you bringing here with these false claims on other fans? None! You were banned from Redskins.com for a reason. I guess some folks never learn.

          abanig – Sep 22, 2015 at 3:52 PM
          Exactly, he had too much on his plate! Everyone knew this when be was hired. A lot like when we had Marty, Snyder gave him them too much control and once they got it, they weren’t giving it up.

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          redskinsnameisheretostay – Sep 22, 2015 at 7:09 PM
          You’re way off on that Marty assumption there! The worst decision ever for this team was the one that led to letting Marty go. He very well could have built a dynasty after he fired Cerrato and hired John Schneider. Marty was building a world class front office around before he was fired. Then Snyder hires Cerrato back?

          Then…

          redskinsnameisheretostay – Sep 23, 2015 at 6:57 AM
          Do we have one, is the question? I like how Cousins has somewhat displayed fewer turnovers so far. Honestly though, Cousins looks like he is being used how RG3 was at times where most passes are …well very conservative. While his completion percentage looks nice; here are some real stats from last week.

          “There’s nothing wrong with completing 85 percent of your passes, but there’s a lot of empty calories here. Thirteen of those 23 completions failed to pick up a first down, and nine of them were considered failed plays. That includes a 2-yard loss on first-and-10 and three completions on third-and-14 or more that gained a total of 10 yards.”
          http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2015/week-2-quick-reads

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          redskinsnameisheretostay – Sep 23, 2015 at 7:00 AM
          We need to get the ball downfield more. The Ryan Grant pass deep should have been a touchdown but Cousins hit him off his back shoulder going the wrong direction. Cousins needs to get going hitting receivers deep because defenses have become well aware of the Redskins new run attack. They’ll be gearing for it and this opens ups big pass plays for Cousins. He just needs to make them happen.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      Significant Improvements? I do not think that is saying to much! It is impossible not to improve from where the Redskins were. I guess Cousins has improved somewhat, he is only throwing 2 INT’s a game instead of 4.

  2. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    I guess this shows just how far we were from being a competitive in the NFL.

    All these improvements and we still get rolled by the GIants (another bad team).
    ~

    • colorofmyskinz - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:07 AM

      The Giants game brought our stats down considerably. Most of our good stats are from the first 2 games.

    • Deangelo Berry - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM

      Giants not a bad team if you watch football they were a desperate team and we the redskins didn’t match their since of urgency

  3. sidepull - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Get off the field on 3rd down. That didn’t happen playing th Giants. I have a feeling, staying positive, that things are on the upswing despite the Giants loss. One team prepares and executes better than the other on Thursday nights after a short week of preparation. That team was not the Redskins, I think this next game will be a bit more telling as they have time to prepare for the Eagles and make adjustments. I expect this to be a better game for the Redskins. The Giants shut down the run. Eagles will surely be looking to do the same. Hopefully the D can get off the field on 3rd down this game.

    • colorofmyskinz - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:43 AM

      Amen!

    • hail74 - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:08 AM

      Agreed and they were talking about that at the beginning of the broadcast about how the traveling team loses a whole day of practice on the Thursday night games.

  4. wvredskins - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Even though we lost to the Giants, I saw somethings that I have not seen in the past. They did not give up! They played their hearts out. This team is different and has a different feel to it. The game was screwed up from the beginning with the safety, to the Interception by Kirk. Thats 9-0 right from the get go. First time this season we had to face adversity like that. With everything that went wrong we were still a couple plays away from making that a game. If Kirk throws them balls alittle farther in the first half it is 14-15.But alot of shoulda coulda woulda’s. If Jones score that touchdown. If special teams recover that fumble.If Kirk doesnt throw that ball on 1st and 10 when moving the ball on them. If Breeland tips that ball a different direction and Randle doesnt get that touchdown. What im getting at is yes Giants beat us pretty good, but we shot our selves in the foot in plays that would have got us back into the game. Kirk is going to get better. PEOPLE NEED TO BE PATIENT PERIOD.

    • hail74 - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:17 AM

      On inside the NFL this week they had Hatcher miked and while I can’t remember what he said verbatim but it was something to the point that the Redskins need to learn how to handle success and remain focused. That it’s tough for them to do because they haven’t had much of it. I personally like the direction this team is moving in and think Gruden is doing a good job with the talent he inherited and that Scot M is doing a good job of upgrading that talent.

      • wvredskins - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:05 AM

        You and me are about the only ones to think that. I think Gruden is doing a good job too but I really wish he would do two things. 1. Put Crowder in for Roberts and leave Roberts on the bench and 2. quit being so predictable with his play calling. On Kirk Cousins first INT, they have ran that exact play 3 or 4 times in game 1 and 2 and were successful with it. Giants watched film and the corner back did his homework. If Gruden would have had Garcon run say a post corner that would have been not being so predictable and not to mention the way the corner jumped that route Garcon prob would have scored on a post corner. But overall I like the direction this team is going in. I like Gruden, I like his demeanor. Players respect him. AND hopefully time will show that he is the right man for the job.

        • sidepull - Sep 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM

          Hey I am with you. He is putting together the team in the way he envisions it is going to be successful. Hes a rookie HC too. I wanted the other Bengals coordinator but hes with the Vikings now. So now I am on board with what we have. I say let it play out before pulling the plug. Redskins are always hasty when pulling the plug on coaches, sometimes rightfully so. But their track record doesnt correlate to winning seasons. I think Snyder blew it when he cut Big Shot. Who know? Maybe with the front office being a shambles no coach stood a chance. At least with Scot in the house there is a glimmer of hope. I am not getting my pitchfork out yet. Stay the course. They have not even been able to adhere to that with a QB here lately and it has to be difficult coaching like that, let alone trying to string together some wins.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:30 AM

      ” If Kirk throws them balls alittle farther in the first half it is 14-15.But alot of shoulda coulda woulda’s. ”

      I agree with the “coulda, wouldas” in this game. However, expecting a starting NFL QB to hit open receivers doesn’t fit that category. If we are settling for this level of QB play then why even make a QB switch to begin with?

      • skinsgame - Sep 28, 2015 at 12:07 AM

        That’s how bad Griffin was.

      • Skulb - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

        This is ridiculous. Cousins wasn´t great but he moves the offense and puts up points. If you want to see true QB woes go look at the 49ers or the Rams. Hell, look at the Colts! For all his foibles Cousins can still be very effective. The only problem I have with him is that he seems to take his INTs too hard so it affects his passing negatively. Looking over Kirk´s stats from the first three weeks he ranks 13th in quite a few categories and in the 20s in a couple of others. Not HOF material for sure but far from the disaster you seem to be convincing yourself it is. Personally I am optimistic that he hit a low point against the Giants. Until he puts back to back stinkers together this is about as good as expected and good enough for this season. Or did you expect a SB trip in 2015 with our mega expensive white elephant QB sitting on the bench? If you did I think it´s time for a reality check.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 2:04 PM

          I support Cousins to stay on as the starter. However, I don’t think he has been productive at all. So I won’t play this game that others are playing by coddling his overall play. I think the scheme has been to restrict his pass attempts to keep his turnovers down. It’s all fine when Cousins has a huge running game like the first two weeks since to ride onto so that he is not asked to throw the ball downfield as much. However, the Giants game was a precursor to what defenses are going to do to stymie the running game. I don’t expect HOF performance from Cousins. However, I do want the more fearless version of him that will throw with authority. His passes have been off most the season. It’s not just the Giants game. If Cousins can get his accuracy up then I’m happy with him even if he gives up some interceptions in the process.

    • greed - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:38 AM

      lol let me get this right be patient with kurt who shows every time he plays hes an int waiting to happen who has the benefit to play behind a o-line that finally has some talent whos headcoach says he made tremendous improvememt by leaps and bounds in decision making and understandinp the offense ! But throw the second pick in the draft R.O.Y who gotten beat down game in and game out from playing behind a pisspoor o-line who headcoach refuse to commit to the runnimg game even though he has an perrenial 1000 yard rusher ! Nah unlike gruden ima hold kurt to the same standards rg was being held too – period kurt a younger grossman with stronger arm very capable backup not a starter for 16 games

  5. troylok - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Much to be positive about, but some stats I think they absolutely need to improve upon:

    -Turnover ratio
    -Pass rush
    -Punt return defense

    • Skulb - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:13 AM

      Agreed. It cuts both ways though: it would be nice if Cousins could avoid TOs in the red zone and limit himself to one pr game on average. But the D needs to make some plays as well. They didn´t have many chances against an annoyingly efficient Eli Manning but dropped at least two against Miami.

  6. bangkokben - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    What a shock! The same sack percentage from last year when Cousins was QB. And when I say, “What a shock!” I, of course mean; that it isn’t really a shock at all.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:00 AM

      Same interceptions and inaccurate throws too

      • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:37 PM

        Kurtis Cousin is a INT mAcHinE

      • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 7:49 AM

        Where you on the accuracy when he completed 85% on Sunday. Inconsistency, yes.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 28, 2015 at 9:07 AM

          I should have said accuracy down field because he hits the short dump offs. Hmmmm guess it’s great for him to hit dump offs but not RG3

        • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 9:22 AM

          It good IF he hits dump offs and they result in first downs. You can hit the check down too late or with a bad ball (i.e. Cousin’s throw to Carrier that resulted in an interception) or you can hit the check down where the runner gets it in enough time or in stride to make YAC and get the first down. Guess which scenario is happening more often, now with Cousins there?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 1:56 PM

          That was more fluff than production…
          “There’s nothing wrong with completing 85 percent of your passes, but there’s a lot of empty calories here. Thirteen of those 23 completions failed to pick up a first down, and nine of them were considered failed plays. That includes a 2-yard loss on first-and-10 and three completions on third-and-14 or more that gained a total of 10 yards.”
          http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2015/week-2-quick-reads

      • Skulb - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM

        Funny Tim, but I didn´t see you when the Skins won last week. You´re not hoping they will play badly so you can come and troll about Cousins are you? Some fan you are.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 30, 2015 at 1:45 AM

          My friend died had more important things to do than listen to your lips

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM

      I’ve never seen so much emphasis on a QB avoiding sacks. Yet here we are 1-2 and the only saving grace has been our defense and running game. The passing game hasn’t won us any game and has actually stymied with a very winnable week one lost. Then sealed our fate with another lost on Thursday. I guess it’s the last place of shelter in avoiding the fact that as of 3 games we have one of the worst performing QBs in the game.

      • brucefan1 - Sep 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM

        “I’ve never seen so much emphasis on a QB avoiding sacks”

        Maybe that observation IS true — but running a close second is the emphasis on “how many sacks a certain QB (do I hafta said say his name?!) CAUSES” !

        In 45+ years of NFL- watching, I have never heard a of QB being so accused for being at fault for being sacked.(He must be just historically bad, at it, huh?)

        (But that’s all water under the bridge, so I gotta stop flogging that mule! Cuz when it comes to the Skins, that particular QB will soon be part of history too.)

        • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM

          Even Joe Montana could not have succeeded with the 2014 Skins offensive line.

      • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 9:10 AM

        Avoiding sacks are keys to avoiding three and outs but let’s pretend that the team was fine in that area with Robert under center.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 10:30 AM

          This has nothing to do with RG3. To even bring up a QB that was inactive from the game is just diverting from issues with Cousins at QB. I get Cousins keeps sacks down however when looking at the his overall performance, does it really matter?

          That just the same diversion some here had about RG3’s performance just because he didn’t throw many interceptions. The bigger concern with Cousins is that I think he looks worst this season than last but I’m convince the scheme is a big part of it.

        • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM

          You think Cousins looks worst than last year when he went 23 of 27 and converted 3rd down after 3rd down in a win 8 days ago? C’mon take your Griffin Googles off. You’re the one mentioning the inactive player. Sacks are important to sustaining drives – just as penalties and of course turnovers. The Redskins have run 221 offensive plays and Cousins has thrown 4 interceptions with zero fumbles. That’s one turnover every 55 plays. So, so far that is an improvement. If you only take Thursday’s game, his two turnovers in the 70 offensive plays is 1 every 35 plays which is still an improvement but if you take the two previous games with just one turnover in the previous 151 plays that is considerable improvement. Point is: TOO SMALL of a sample size to declare improvement but if the shoe was on the other foot and you pulled the plug, you’d be crying UNFAIR! Let’s see how this plays out before you make snap judgments. Is that reasonable?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 1:47 PM

          “You think Cousins looks worst than last year when he went 23 of 27 ”

          That 23 of 27 didn’t accomplish much…
          “There’s nothing wrong with completing 85 percent of your passes, but there’s a lot of empty calories here. Thirteen of those 23 completions failed to pick up a first down, and nine of them were considered failed plays. That includes a 2-yard loss on first-and-10 and three completions on third-and-14 or more that gained a total of 10 yards.”
          http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2015/week-2-quick-reads

          No one is talking RG3 here but you. My analysis is strictly on Cousins performance. So quick stroking Cousins on bogus statistics and see the full picture. If you can’t then agree to disagree without your BS goggle comment.

          “That’s one turnover every 55 plays. So, so far that is an improvement. ”
          It’s only an improvement on turnovers because they have him playing the short field. Let him use the full field and then see how those turnovers pan out. The fact is, he is missing open targets all over the field and he is still turnover prone. If Cousins was getting more movement on offense and producing points instead of the only 1 legitimate touchdown he has then, I wouldn’t have issues with his turnovers.

          Also you don’t know me so you can stop playing the clown by assuming how I’d would react to if the shoe was on the other foot. I’ve been critical on RG3 when he hasn’t played well. The difference is that I can be critical and still support the starter. Regardless, Cousins has been a virtual dud so far. You stats fall severely short on proving otherwise.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 1:52 PM

          Cousins has thrown 107 pass attempts with 4 interceptions. Simple math reveals that to be 1 interception for ever 26.75. Try excluding run plays next time to put the accurate stats out there.

        • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 2:43 PM

          Interception rate vs turnover rate.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 2:50 PM

          Who uses that for a QB? Sorry man but that figure doesn’t amount to much of anything either way! If you are crediting Cousins for not fumbling a snap then probably over 95% of the starting QBs today get that same credit.

        • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

          Jd,

          The previous stat that I’m referring to is Cousins turnovers from his previous two seasons where he has turned it over an average of once every 29 plays from scrimmage – this includes fumbles – not just aborted snaps. Cousins, so far, hasn’t fumbled a sack. It is not a argument for “good quarterbacking” but statistical evidence that he has improved – which you say he hasn’t.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM

          Okay that’s fine but we can achieve a more accurate measure with fumbles on sacks just by going by the number of times dropping back to throw. Again with Cousins we get the same average right now with 0 fumbles but include the interceptions and those numbers based on passing attempts is still quite high. I don’t have the percentage of times a QB fumbles or is sacked on a hand-off but I imagine it is quite low, very low actually.

          Okay so let’s not even use fumbles since even though it is more likely resulted from a pass attempt, it can skew the numbers some. Now if we look at Interceptions on attempts passing then you have so far…
          2015 – 26.75
          2014 – 22.67
          2013 – 22.14
          2012 – 16

          Even with interceptions we can suggest a slight improvement. However, I ask at what cost? The reason is that I think the reason for any improvement is because Cousins is being used very conservatively in the passing game so far. Rather it’s Jackson not being in the game, the scheme, or Cousins himself; I think it has made is overall performance worst. The short game has taken away his ability to make up for costly turnovers.

          Look at it this way. In three games Cousins as only 8 passes over 20 yards an average of 2.67 per game. In 2014 he had 27 passes over 20 yards an average of 4.5 per game. He has ZERO attempts over 40 yards this season. In 2014 he had 8 which averages out to at least 1 per game. Playing the short field is not helping Cousins. Let alone may also be playing a role in his erratic throws thus far.

        • bangkokben - Sep 28, 2015 at 6:42 PM

          Improvement is a hard stat to measure because there are a multitude of factors to consider – scheme being just one. I used turnovers per play because he was the WORST in that category over the last two seasons of any QB with at least 500 plays (46 out of 46 with one every 29.5 plays). But the bottom line is that it’s too early to say whether he has improved or not – at least for us fans. Coaches know what read he’s supposed to make in each situation and what he should do if the play breaks down. In these areas, he may have made significant strides but we wouldn’t know because we didn’t know what he did in the past in this regard or for that matter what he’s doing now.

          What we did know, was that he turns the ball over too much and responded poorly in times when he turned over the ball. So in those cases, I see improvement. I think you would be able to see improvement in this area as well. It may not be enough for you or significant enough at this point but I’d think that you could see it. But you have to get yourself a criteria and stick with it. It can’t be interceptions one week, wins another week, and DVOA another week because you’re then presenting yourself as nonobjective with a moving target as your source of criticism.

          If it’s DVOA, then what is an acceptable standard? A positive score? At least in the top half of the league? A 50 or better?

          So far: Week 1, positive score but low (11), ranking as the 19th best QB performance of the week. Week 2, 79, ranking 11th best. Week 3 – my guess is that his score will be in the low negatives and rank somewhere around 25th-27th.

          I’m perfectly willing to discuss this subject with you but we’re going to need to agree on acceptable parameters as framework for that discussion or it will just result in a circular argument.

        • bangkokben - Sep 29, 2015 at 1:24 PM

          “Week 3 – my guess is that his score will be in the low negatives and rank somewhere around 25th-27th.”

          -19 DVOA ranking 22nd for the week
          A lot of poor QB play for the week. That’s an observation – not a justification.
          http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2015/week-3-quick-reads

        • bangkokben - Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM

          “Week 3 – my guess is that his score will be in the low negatives and rank somewhere around 25th-27th.”

          -19 DVOA ranking 22nd for the week
          A lot of poor QB play for the week. That’s an observation – not a justification.

  7. colmac69 - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Out of five points the three most important ones show significant difference

    Third dwn %….points allowed…..red zone efficiency

    Three games is small sample though…however if we continue to have same success or better in upcoming games then we will win more than we lose

    One big stat that has to change for better is turnover ratio which could derail the progress

    • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      It is hard to win any game Cousins has 2 or more INT’s. If we can just get Kirk to throw 1 a game we have a chance. I think he will throw 2 more next week vs the Eagles to give him 6 on the year.

      • Skulb - Sep 28, 2015 at 11:18 AM

        Well people were saying that before the Rams game too. Really only two of them have been completely on him. The other two were contested and sort of half his fault. It\s not as bad as the drama queens here claim. What bothered me in the Giants game was that he seemed to lose confidence after the first one, and spent two quarters before he got it back. He needs some healthy QB amnesia and he´ll be fine.

  8. mr.moneylover - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    We have to improve on our pass rush….ryan Kerrigan only got 1 sack in 3 games…wide receivers gotta do a better job of running they routes as prefect as possible and catching the ball…kirk cousins need to do a better job of not turning the ball over…and DBs need to do a better job of breaking up passes if they cant catch the ball

  9. redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    The number one improvement needed is in the passing game. The scheme itself seems very limited to short and mid-range routes with the QB is credited for just three touchdown passes this season. 1) Could have been a pass interference call on Reed as he appeared to push his defender own to position himself for the catch. 2) Chris Thompson actually was down before he crossed the goal line. So we could very well be looking at Cousins with a 1-to-4 ratio with touchdowns to interceptions. Why the emphasis for such a safe passing game when Cousins interceptions are still maintaining course at a record pace? There needs to be shots made downfield to stretch the defense out. Otherwise they’ll continue to load up to stop the running game.

    Matt Jones is so exciting to watch but he needs to do a better job of protecting the ball. I feel this is just rookie types of mistakes but the team really needs a mistake free running game with the way the passing game has been going.

    Many will claim Breeland had a tough game but it wasn’t like he was getting beat badly. Both touchdowns he had coverage but just didn’t come down with the ball. I hope this was just him working to get back into game shape after being out for sometime. Overall, I still think the coverage group is vastly improved from last season. We don’t have an edge rusher to get around the Tackles and that is hurting the defense in a big way IMO.

    • sidepull - Sep 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM

      Yup. Breeland was in position, just that WR made a great play too. I hopeful he will be improved. Takes playing in games to get in game shape!

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:46 PM

        I agree and I actually feel he played a very solid game. He’ll win those battles for the ball later in the season. The big question is how the secondary will manage the slot position with Hall out for many games.

        • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:23 PM

          They will be fine without Hall. Deangeolo is becoming more and more of a liability every year that goes by. He is certainly in his twilight years. I always liked Hall a lot but his services will not be needed much more after this year. Thanks for the memories Hall. Great 4 INT game you had vs. Cutler and the Bears. Will miss you when your gone but we need young dependable talent at the CB position.

    • brucefan1 - Sep 27, 2015 at 4:18 PM

      I like where yore going with this passing game talk, redskinsname, but I think the best way to improve the passing game is by NEVER depending on it!

      Make Cuz throw a lot, put him under pressure and EVERYONE who’s honest knows he’s gonna cough it up eventually.

      Problem is the oppo knows that too, so their game plan will naturally be to load the box, stuff the run, get a little lead, and wait for Cuz to do what he do!

      It just follows, as surely as night follows day.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:24 PM

        I get your point about what defenses want to do with Cousins. However I think the offense scheme is making it easy for the defenses. I know Cousins is not afraid to throw the deep ball and he will take chances. His biggest issues with interceptions comes from throwing underneath in tight spots. At least give him some breathing room with some deep routes. Hey, I credit the QB for some things and one is that he is really good at alluding the rush. So why not let me roll out like he does but hit a receiver on a go route every once in awhile? Gruden is making his job harder with these conservative passing routes. Reed alone will preoccupy a lot of attention to allow speedy guys like Rashad Reed or Crowder to slip downfield.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:20 PM

      We will see. So far looks like Breeland is having a rough go. He did not have a great game and no he was not in position on those plays he got burnt. He was there, able to make a play on the ball, but not in prime position. Overall, I would say Breeland got burnt up a little bit. Lets keep in mind we have seen Brelland shut Dez Bryant down so we know he can play. He will warm back up. He needs to get his daily 4:20 in and he will be alright.

  10. jscx3 - Sep 27, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    It would be nice to see Jackson Jeffcoat get more time. He seems to be explosive. Just get him in there they need speed!

  11. squawonthewarpath - Sep 27, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    What I find amusing is how last week when the Skins finally WON a game how the comment sections were threadbare. Now after the loss on Thursday the sections are overloaded with “i told you so’s” and tons of negativity, mainly directed at Cousins. I am in total agreement that Cousins is NOT a good quarterback, but at least he can remain upright. He was going to end up playing the majority of the season anyways because RG3 was going to end up hurt.

    • brucefan1 - Sep 27, 2015 at 4:23 PM

      Hahaha!

      As I recall squaw, you were crowin up a buncha “I told you so’s” after the Rams game! (Yeah … we pay attention around here! LOL)

      Ya can’t have it both ways squaw; that’s called hypocrisy. ;^}

      • squawonthewarpath - Sep 27, 2015 at 6:56 PM

        I did not post any “I told you so’s” after the Rams so clearly Brucefan you do not pay attention. I rarely post here. Only sit back and read the comments.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:48 PM

      “He was going to end up playing the majority of the season anyways because RG3 was going to end up hurt.”

      Another example of someone who watches the games but never really gets the big picture. RG3 could have played all of 2013 with a brace. To assume he’ll just get hurt if he plays is for me to assume you are better off being a Cowboy fan.

      • squawonthewarpath - Sep 27, 2015 at 7:03 PM

        Wow after these 2 ridiculous comments it’s no wonder I rarely post here. I think I’ve made all of perhaps 2 or 3 brief posts here and I’ve already been falsely accused of engaging in hypocrisy for doing something I never did and now because I mention RG3’s injury-prone tendencies (which is the TRUTH) I am told I should become a Cowboy fan. Geez………

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:49 PM

          You didn’t mention his tendencies you were predicting he be injured if he played. There is a big difference. i don’t like any fan that hopes/thinks any player is going to get hurt if he steps onto a field. Are you saying the same about Jordan Reed? Also, it’s simply preposterous to even discuss RG3 playing right now. I see very few comments here asking for him to replace Cousins. If Cousins plays well then he gets credit and I’ve continue to support him starting. The fact is that he has performed at a sub-par level and any fans has a right to call out his performance. This has nothing to do with RG3. I was here a few days after the victory and if I was commenting the very day of that victory, I would have riled over his play just as much as in this lost. He has yet to play well in a single game this season. I haven’t just blamed him I’ve also blamed the scheme that is not allowing opportunities to stretch the defense more. You just read what you want to read. You posted your comments attacking other fans and RG3. Yet, you are shocked by the response?

        • squawonthewarpath - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM

          Excuse me? Redskinsnameishere……… I have never once attacked anyone on this board or RG3. I simply commented on noticing way fewer comments on this board after the win as opposed to the lost. I can’t believe how you blatantly lie and attempted to twist what little I did say into something that it wasn’t. If you believe that posting about fewer people being around after the win or someone mentioning that RG3 is injury prone to be an attack then…well I won’t even go there because there is an old saying that the more you stir crap the worse it skinks. I’ll leave it at that.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 8:21 AM

          ” He was going to end up playing the majority of the season anyways because RG3 was going to end up hurt.”

          That comment above is a prediction on RG3 and NOT a discussion on his injury tendencies. You can try to distort it any other way you like. You clearly stated RG3 will end up hurt. I don’t care if you are wishing or expecting it. It’s a pathetic mindset to have when a fan expects a player to get on the field and get hurt. If you have concerns about RG3 getting hurt well that’s one thing. However, that’s is not what you comment suggest. You’re not concerned, you are just expecting the worst to happen to this kid.

      • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:17 PM

        I rather watch Rex Grossman come back and play QB for the Skins than to ever watch Knee Brace Rg3 back in action.. Knee Brace Rg3 was not good, probably better than Cousins, but still horrendous.

        • hk2000 - Sep 30, 2015 at 1:03 AM

          He injured his knee taking your team to the playoffs and gave you a season we haven’t seen in almost a decade, and now a lowlife like you is making fun of that injury with the “knee brace” crap? you’re a classless POS!

  12. mr.moneylover - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    A person very close to the team said they have no plan to trade or cut rg3 this season in fact its very possible he will take over as the second string QB in a few weeks right now scot m. Has been tryna protect and study rg3 and learn what hes good at thats why its been reports out there were you hear rg3 been staying a hour after practice with the O-line and coaches to get him on track and I hear so far so good….let’s see what happens in a couple weeks…I think 1-4 will get kirk cousins benched and its possible because he turn the ball over to much

  13. mr.moneylover - Sep 27, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    I knew scot m. Got a plan for rg3 even if jay gruden get fired scot m studying him watching him to see if its jay gruden or rg3 and so far rg3 been progressing and might play in the coming weeks so scot m. Will find out his answers….personally I think jay gruden aint the right coach for him but scot m. Seem to want to try to make it work…ill leave rg3 on the sideline for my next head coach ima bring in

    • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM

      Kurt Cousin is the best back up or 3rd string QB in the league

  14. colmac69 - Sep 27, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Cousins 4 ints in 3 games

    Kaepernick 4 ints in 33 mins

    Who b a qb these days

    • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:13 PM

      Cousins would be a great QB, probably top 10, if he was not a turnover machine.

  15. goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Kirks Cousin is done. Inside sources to the team say Rg3’s footwork looks better than ever and Rob has been spending extra time in the film room learning defensive packages. Looks like they are going to ride this thing out with Cousins and insert Rob when he is ready. I expect we say a new contract coming for Rg3. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 year 36 million with 14 mil guaranteed.

    • colmac69 - Sep 27, 2015 at 7:02 PM

      Think you should apply for gm job at redskins my friend…u certainly have an insight in how they operate for sure

      • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM

        Thanks for the vote of confidence. Rg3 will make you proud when he returns in the next few weeks.

    • hk2000 - Sep 27, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      They where saying this about RG3 back in TC, even the coach himself went out of his way to complement his improvements- not that I value his opinion on anything- then he turned around and sabotaged his season before it even started. I don’t like this coach, I don’t trust this coach and I don’t care what he thinks of any aspect of the team, I want him gone regardless what the team record ends up being.

      • goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:12 PM

        Gruden was a mediocre crap pic of a coach. I said that when they picked him up you can look back at Tandler’s blog back then and you will see my comments.
        I was really surprised when they picked up Gruden I think everyone was. It was a shocker. Look really close at Grudens face when they cut to him during the games and he looks very confused. He always has the most perplexed dumbfounded look on his face. I think he is in over his head.

        • hk2000 - Sep 27, 2015 at 10:10 PM

          Exactly. I was hoping they get Zimmer, but everyone was saying they wanted an Offensive mind, Offensive mind my foot.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM

      Ill say 2 year deal at the most I dont see a three year deal….maybe when he start and if he look good I can see a three year deal….but I here the same thing hes learning how to read defense and progressing in his foot work…its been said scot m. Is happy the way rg3 is progressing…they letting jay gruden hang his self on starting kirk cousins because they know what kirk cousins is already…when I look back on it kirk cousins got more snaps in jay gruden system then rg3

  16. goback2rfk - Sep 27, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Maybe pick up a washed up Drew Brees next season. That would be interesting.

    • jizmaglobin95610 - Sep 28, 2015 at 5:55 AM

      NO!! Drew is done. He should retire after this year so he’ll still be able to lift his arm over his head the rest of his life.

  17. jizmaglobin95610 - Sep 28, 2015 at 5:54 AM

    This is the first year with a real GM in place. That said, I think we need to remain patient with Gruden because he inherited a mess from Shanahan, not to mention a team built for finesse when he’s a power football kind of guy. Scot M. is also a power football kind of guy and the two of them should mesh well together moving forward. But they deserve the time to get it done. One year isn’t enough to do that and Gruden wasn’t the one picking players last year. At the beginning of the off season, what we all viewed as our only strength was the running game and maybe our receivers, and now we’re looking at receivers as the glaring weakness. Whether that’s because of QB or the receivers themselves, I personally think it’s a little bit of both, I’m not sure. Also, why is everybody so dooms day about getting spanked by the Giants? They always embarrass us on prime time. Gimme Dallas on prime time every time because we always play them close and ya just never know what will happen. With the Giants you can pretty much bet it’s going to be ugly because it always is. We had to try to go on the road, on a short week, and beat them at their strengths. That’s a tall order for a good team, which we’re not, yet. Penalties and special teams are hurting us a lot. Kowitca needs to go away. Robert needs to stay on the bench. Gruden needs to get time with Scot picking proper players. And we need to be patient because you can’t fix how bad we were last year in one off season.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 8:05 AM

      “That said, I think we need to remain patient with Gruden because he inherited a mess from Shanahan, not to mention a team built for finesse when he’s a power football kind of guy.”

      That was just not Gruden’s history as OC. I’m not sure where you read that Intel on Gruden. Yes he ran a power blocking scheme like most teams in the NFL. However, Gruden was highly criticized for relying too heavily on the passing game and not properly utilizing the run game at Cincinnati. With the talent Cincinnati had on the offense line and running game they never managed being rated in the top half of the NFL in rushing. Go back to last seasons running game collapse and that was vintage Gruden’s offense that many feared he’d bring to Washington. The difference was that Gruden couldn’t even get the passing game going since every QB failed under his system. Even with Shanahan; the running game was at worst solid and at times elite. Gruden came and made it the worst running game seen in years at Washington. This is most likely why Bill Callahan was hired.

      Gruden was struggling to keep his job as OC at Cincinnati and as many predicted he struggled in his role as a coach here. I think most everyone is willing to be patient with Scot but if Gruden doesn’t turn this team around, it’s only a matter of time for Gruden. Another losing season and he’ll at best a coach by proxy only on this team. Remember, Scot did not hire Gruden.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 28, 2015 at 8:12 AM

      ” and now we’re looking at receivers as the glaring weakness.”

      No not at all are the receivers a weakness! Where did you get this impression. When Jackson returns, the offense should be able to stretch the field better. The glaring weakness has been in the QB play and somewhat the scheme. Did you not see the numerous interceptions, the under thrown passes, and passes thrown behind open receivers? A decent QB would have thrown three touchdown passes last Thursday. The receivers did their jobs and were open! Glaring weakness is the fact that if the officials made all the right calls the stats for this QB would be 1-4 in touchdown to interceptions. There is no avoiding the GLARING performance of Cousins. It has been sub-par at best in 3 games. He needs to turn that performance around and show he can hit players on target.

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