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Need to Know: Redskins’ sizzling rushing game fizzles vs. Giants

Sep 25, 2015, 6:51 AM EDT

Matt Jones vs. NYG

Here is what you need to know on this Friday, September 25, nine days before the Redskins host the Eagles.

Notes and numbers from Giants 32, Redskins 21

—After rushing for 343 yards in two games, the Redskins couldn’t get it going on the ground. They gained just 88 yards on 20 carries, a 4.4 average per carry. But their performance actually was worse than that. Their last carry of the night was a 26-yard draw by Chris Thompson on the last play of the game when the Giants were in a Hail Mary prevent defense. If you take out that run the numbers are 62 yards on 19 carries, a sad 3.3-yard average.

—Rashad Ross had a perfect too little, too late moment with his 101-yard kickoff return for a touchdown. The scoring return did break a streak of 75 consecutive Redskins games without a special teams touchdown. That had been the NFL’s longest active streak of games with no special teams TDs. It would have been nice if it had meant something but the game was well out of hand by that point in time.

—The Redskins had a stranglehold on the time of possession in their first two games, holding it for over 37 minutes each game. They held it for only 28:30 today. The Giants managed to give them a dose of their own medicine by sticking with running the ball. They had 31 rushing attempts even though they averaged just 2.7 yards per carry.

—The Redskins defense didn’t play poorly overall. But over the last two games they have a combined one sack and zero takeaways. They got away with producing no game-changing plays on defense against the Rams. The team couldn’t survive the inability of the defense to give a struggling offense a short field to work with.


Today’s schedule: Off day

Days until: Eagles @ Redskins 9; Redskins @ Falcons 16; Redskins @ Jets 23

112 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. sidepull - Sep 25, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    I thought they would win the turnover battle. Clearly I thought wrong. Hopefully they will come out prepared next game. Disappointing after a week of hype. Ross return was a nice moment in a night of blunders.

    • brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:42 PM

      Maannn…. the ONLY highlight of that game for me was when they played a few lines of “Glory Days” at the end of the first quarter. That was it! (It’s sad to think about how long ago our glory days were, ain’t it? That “young girl” who was winking her eye at us WAY back then has turned into a dowdy, middle-aged frump!)

      And maybe I’m just hyper-sensitive, but can Phil Simms possibly show any more contempt for the Redskins (or, in his words, “the Washington team” LOL) than he does whenever he works the Skins’ games lately?! Of course it doesn’t help when their’ poor play gives him so much extra ammunition to attack them with, BESIDES just the 800 lb gorilla in the room — his outright refusal to use the team’s name. No other NFL announcer does THAT. (And also having Mike Carey in the booth just exacerbated that situation — but I thought that Jim Nance’s frequent and unabashed use of “Redskins” juxtaposed Simms nicely! No?)

      Finally, I hope whoever that was besmirching London Fletcher’s uniform number last night will never be allowed to darken the team’s towels again! (Thanks for that one, Groucho.) To let Jennings thru him not once, but TWICE in a row, and then commit another Teams foul a little later is wholly unacceptable.

      Or at least it would be on most teams.

  2. brucep523 - Sep 25, 2015 at 7:47 AM

    How about showing some accountability! The coaching was horrible; bad clock management, bad play calling, we got away from the run too early, and more of the same predictable plays. Special teams is still a major problem! Cousins regressed to his normal – he is NOT an NFL starter! The interceptions and near interceptions continue! Don’t look at the stats because once you get way behind they will give you the short passes in the middle! Cousins overthrew too many receivers and Roberts can’t catch the ball! Cousins needs to be held accountable and be benched! Roberts needs to be held accountable and needs to be benched! Gruden needs to be held accountable and needs to be fired! We have a stallion in the stables that we need to use – Start RG3!

    • skinsgame - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:08 AM

      Griffin? A stallion? Oh, that’s righ, that’s right. Best Qb in the league.

    • darcrequiem - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:39 AM

      Honestly, I don’t think Gruden called a bad game. I have an issue with him but I’ll get to that in moment. The problem was Cousins flat out bad. He missed Reed twice on what have been touchdowns. He missed Grant on what would have been a huge gain as well. He was throwing behind his targets the whole night. Despite the miscues, if Cousins hits a few wide open targets we still pull out the victory.

      I agree with you on Roberts. He drops way too many passes. Cousins actually threw a perfect pass to him and it went right through his hands. He seems to drop a well thrown pass each game. Sit him on the bench and keep Grant and Ross in the game.

      Now for my issue with Gruden, it’s his hypocrisy. When Robert was the starter, he’d breakdown his mistakes in the post game press conference. I never seen a head coach eviscerate his starting QB like Gruden did with Robert. He didn’t do that with Colt and he seemingly goes out of his way to minimize Kirk’s poor play.Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think a head coach should be throwing his starting QB under the bus. Also let me be clear, Robert played his way onto the bench in the preseason.

      Final thoughts. The blueprint is out on how to beat our team. Load the box, stop the run, and make Kirk beat you. I don’t care what Gruden says publicly. Cousin keeps playing like he did last night and he’s not going to be the starter for the full season. Hopefully for our sake and his, he can turn this around. That said, I don’t think he’s a starter in NFL. He reminds me a lot of Rex Grossman to be honest.

      • renhoekk2 - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:33 AM

        Griffin got called out one time. Fans are trying to make it seem like was a weekly occurrence and think every time Kirk loses now he should get called out too. The Griffin evisceration stemmed from fact that Robert wasn’t doing the basic QB 101 things that any NFL QB should be able to do. Taking incorrect drops, not stepping up or sliding in the pocket, holding on to the ball too long or taking unnecessary sacks, not seeing that based on the defensive alignment the pass would have to go to a certain side of the field because the alignment took away a particular route. Or he would not see receivers running wide open. Cousins problems are missing on throws or forcing passes into coverage. He’s at least operating the offense the way the coaches designed it. An overthrown or under thrown pass, as long as it’s to the correct receiver is not going to frustrate a coach the way Griffin was with all the things he wasn’t doing correctly. There is a difference between throwing bad passes and not playing the QB position correctly.

        • hk2000 - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:11 AM

          He called him out every time he answered a question about him, even up until this preseason. Every time Gruden speaks regarding Griffin, he throws him under the bus implicitly, he is still the same jerk, he just learned how to use double speak and be less direct. Gruden is the most transparent NFL person I’ve ever seen- even worse than Zorn- you can always tell what he’s feeling and thinking, and he NEVER EVER liked Griffin, and it always shows.

      • vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:37 AM

        Reed is a fantastic talent, but on both under thrown balls to him, he needed to go up for those balls at their highest point and force contact with his defender to earn pass interference. Definitely poor throws by Cousins, but Reed could have helped the QB and the team on both.

    • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:45 AM

      You can forget about Griffin. He´s not starting anything. It´s either Kirk or Colt.

    • mauriceatwood - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:36 AM

      My sentiments exactly, particularly with your comments about Gruden. The man is in over his head and simply cannot run an NFL team. He may be a good OC, but he is no head coach. The performance last night was the 3rd time the Giants have embarrassed Gruden as coach. The lack of preparation is all on the coaching staff. The Redskins under Gruden win a game with they have an aberration of a game and play good. The norm is what we saw against the Dolphins when the team just didn’t have the drive to finish hard or against the Giants when the team was completely unprepared, unfocused, and uninspired. Will be just our luck that the Eagles catch fire by the time they come to DC and shred our defensive backs left and right. So much for that talk of contending in the division. We are now back to square one, but I honestly believe that Gruden will be fired after this season unless there is some serious turnaround.

    • shermanp79 - Sep 25, 2015 at 7:32 PM


  3. skinsgame - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:28 AM

    That was another embarrassing loss in prime time. The list of what went wrong is a long one. Penalties were not high but each one, especially in the 1st half, came at exactly the wrong time and were crushing. The 1st interception Cousins threw was inexcusable. The DB was standing there the entire time, that was not a “nice play”, that was an awful throw. Matt Jones is a fumbler. The defense can not muster a pass rush and the LB’s can’t cover anyone. The one thing that looked serviceable was the O line. They weren’t dominant but they were not a liability. The Giants stacked the box and Cousins did not make them pay or the running game may have had a chance.
    It’s disheartening to have them come out and lay an egg like that. It exposes the many holes the team has and sobers up the fans. My interest in the season just went from hopeful to indifferent. Injuries piling up, same predictably-awful showing on special teams, QB is a liability… It really is going to be a 3-4 year project to rebuild. Fall is here, Football season for me will start after the Super Bowl. Again.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:03 AM

      I agree with what you are saying but I can not stand the word “rebuild.” What in the heck have the Redskins been doing for the last 10 years?! We have been in re-build mode for a decade now.

    • ET - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:38 AM

      The 2nd Jones fumble was a real morale killer. If they had made that touchdown, the Skins might’ve turned the game around—or at least made it competitive.

      Cousins did not fully take advantage of the Giants’ defensive game plan, true. But the receivers need to do their part as well. There were some drops and poorly run routes. And, a week after the TEs did an excellent job blocking, their efforts against NY were much more inconsistent.

      Despite all that, this is still a much more promising team than last year’s version.

      • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:59 AM

        The Jones fumble and Cousins’ 2nd interception were absolutely soul crushing. Moving the ball well then forcing the ball into tight coverage on first down was the worst play of the night. Could’ve turned it around to 18-13 by finishing that drive. But he did respond and then Jones’ does a Griffin turning a spectacular TD run into a Giant touchback. How is that possible that we could do that to the same team in back to back games? Lost in the replace Cousins talk is how he hit guys on 3rd and long and even 4th and 14. The Giants are NOT a good team. They wanted so badly to give the game away and we dropped that nicely gift-wrapped box and kept kicking it on the ground and in the mud like some clown at the circus. Should’ve recovered two onside kicks. Can’t knock down a pass on 3rd down.

  4. mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:30 AM

    Jay gruden called out rg3 like a dog last year and to see him make excuses for kirk cousins bad game is sooooo wrong on so many levels…I thought rashad ross was gonna be more involved boy was I wrong they didnt throw deep down field all game long witch made things more difficult to run the ball…its just a matter of time for jay gruden to either lose that locker room or make a change at the QB postion…kirk cousins cant get his head out his own a– he threw two picks in both lost it doesnt take a genius to see he havent change…if kirk cousins fail jay gruden fail and both will be gone next year so in a way im happy we lost because jay gruden is not capable of running this team dont get me wrong hes a great motivator but his ability to adjust his game plan going into the game is what really holding this team back no adjustments bein made

    • butche106 - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:55 AM

      Double standard “Jay” re: Cousins and RG3, very telling after loss. That press conference was a doozy from “Jay”. And please, “Jay” is not going to play RG3 this season, he’ll be traded. A Roberts is like Roberto Duran, “Hands of Stone”. When the HC is stubborn to see what others see, that’s because he doesn’t want to see it. Jay Gruden got out coached again last night, not new
      . Can someone retire D Hall once and for all. I’m 64 years old and I can get open on any one of the bums in that secondary. This team has a few good players, but as a whole collective group, like the Head Coach, this team is soft. Yep the Washington Redskins are soft, no heart, only $$$ means something to them.

    • hk2000 - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:22 AM

      A great motivator? Yeah right, that was a pathetic effort and I did not see any motivation all I see is a lost and confused head coach who is way in over his head and a QB that looks worse than many back ups in the league. But I agree with you I don’t mind losing- actually we don’t have a choice with Gruden and Kirk at the helm, and I want them both gone.

    • hcicron - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:31 AM

      So to be clear, your ok with rg3 after a loss throwing the team under the bus by saying he can’t do it all by himself, but not ok with Gruden saying “Robert needs to worry about Robert” when asked about rg3 throwing everyone else under the bus. Makes perfect sense. I like rg3 and have defended his many unnecessary pressers but this hate for Gruden is ridiculous.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:06 AM

      I hope to see Gruden, RG3, and Kirk Cousins off the team next year. Throw Ben Kotwika in the trash also.

      • brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:32 AM

        That should happen.

        Gruden’s a dead man walking; a zombie.

        Cuz? He’s just a backup.

        Griffin’s departure will probably be by choice. Personally, I wouldn’t come back to this fiasco no matter how much McCloughan might beg me, even after shnit-canning Gruden. Griffin’s destiny is elsewhere.

        • hk2000 - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM

          Absolutely!! completely agree.

  5. butche106 - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:39 AM

    Defense win games and the Redskins defense could not get off the field when it counted. Kerrigan is a ok player, but not a game changer, Redskins don’t have a game changer on the DL. Cousins is the coach’s pet, pure and simple as that. Both Cousins and Gruden will be gone after this year. I don’t think that “Jon Gruden’s QB Camp has done Cousins any good, the Redskins are the only team that wants him. The DB’s in seem to be out of position all the time, never can make stops and the 2 starting CB’s that seem to get beat like a drum more often than not. The secondary is the same as last year group, no good. Maybe 5-11 this year, maybe.

  6. cowboyhater - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Giants have the skins number because their coaching staff reads Gruden like a book and knows his every move. This is over reaction Friday….so let the QB controversy begin, or fire the coach, or it’s the owners fault, or our GM hasn’t improved this team..etc…. Bottom line this is what you will get from this team this year. Our QB will be up and down all year because he is an average QB, and unfortunately still the best option on this team. Our coach probably will not be here next year because this is not SM’s guy, and our defense is what I thought they were. It was funny to see when we beat Stl that everyone was thinking division because the other teams in the division either have injuries, or haven’t performed.IT”S ONLY BEEN 2 GAMES….they will improve and the skins will own the cellar again this year. We will see the good, the bad , and the ugly all year until SM can get this team put together the way he envisioned it, but IT WILL TAKE TIME!! Let’s be patient during this rebuilding year, and all we can continue to hope for as a fan is to see continual improvement as the season goes on. I’m just glad I went to bed after halftime….

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:11 AM

      Its not the defense fault…the defense kept holding them to 3 points but the offense kept putting the defense on the field way to much the defense was actually on the field more then the offense

    • ET - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:46 AM

      Let’s not forget that the defense faced a talented QB for the first time this year. I agree that the Giants have a bead on Gruden’s offense, but the defense was matched against a quarterback who executed well all night.

  7. princewilks - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    I knew it would happen with Cousins turnover prone self. Missed open receivers, Underthrew Jordan Reed on a pass that should have been a TD. Then threw well wide of an open Ryan Grant. That one play from our end zone on 3rd & 17 when he went for Thompson near the sideline early in the game, he had a wide open Ryan Grant over the middle. Terrance Plummer got manhandled by Rashad jennings twice on our first punt. I saw the blocked punt coming. I dont know how Gruden & Kotwica didnt. Jennings had pushed Plummer way back nearly blocking the ball the first time. Then when we have to rekick, he allows Plummer to go back in and attempt to block Jennings again. Our DBs were playing some soft zone coverage, giving the Giants receivers plenty of cushion to catch the passes, I never understood why they didnt play a bit more press. The giants had no pass rush and Cousins couldnt hit a receiver in stride to save his life with two days to pass in the pocket. Can you believe they didnt attempt to expose the Giants throwing deep? I mean, they have two liabilities in coverage at safety with Collins & Merriweather!

    I have gone back to watch the game again (I dont think I will) but these things were clearly out there and I noticed them while watching the game. The moment that punt was blocked I knew it was going to be a long night. And of course, Cousins doing his best Grossman impression, racking up stats in garbage time.

  8. colmac69 - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Q the overreaction to last night coming up through the day

    Just like it was important last wk after rams game to keep expectations on level keel it’s just as important we do same after last night

    Yeh it wasn’t gd starting with cousins (guess that will put stop about contract xtensions)…bad ints and off key much of night

    Didn’t get job done with rushing attack (losing luvao could b big blow if he got serious inj)

    Pass rush allowed manning to stand back with cigars out (wouldn’t have mattered if we rushed more than four all night)

    Bad pens right off the bat which cost skins 43yrds..instead first ten from their 40 we get 3-12 from our 17….other pens just as costly

    Rush defense was decent…2.7 per rush

    Jordan reed played well again (he stays healthy he b in pro bowl for sure)…pens are issue though

    Kicker bn fine so far (have to admit at this stage change in kicker has bn gd decision )

    Kick ret for td (finally our special teams make big play)

    Overall we might have to face reality that we going to be a team that’s gd one wk poor nxt wk…lots will think (esp on this forum)we won’t win another game this yr…others might see some hope in what we trying to achieve for future

    As has bn said before winning solves lots problems….great redskin players from 80,s and early 90,s had faults and flaws but they played on teams that were successful..won lots games…superbowls etc…

    Ultimately that’s bottom line regardless how u/we achieve that goal

    • darcrequiem - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:59 AM

      That’s actually pretty good cliff notes version of the game.

  9. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    It seemed to me we were running alright until Lauvao hurt his ankle.

    Cousins was terrible.

  10. mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    The lack of adjustment bein made by jay gruden will end up getting him fired…kirk cousins is who he is….colt mccoy is a better QB but if kirk cousins fail I think jay gruden know he will be gone by the end of the year thats why he name kirk cousins the QB for the year…he will lose this locker room by week 5 or 6 if they still losing and no change bein made…players in the locker room already said jay gruden gotta do a better job of coaching up the players…did you hear Ricky jean francio said ??? He called out the coaches for not getting them ready for that game and you know what he can do that because he not on the hot seat jay gruden is and he know scot m. Is in the players conners that he brought in…

    • hcicron - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:25 AM

      I didn’t see what he said but as a professional I would never blame someone else for my performance.

      • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:31 AM

        He said basically the same thing as Gruden said, “Players got outplayed; coaches got out coached.” (paraphrased of course) Probably heard it from the horse’s mouth when the coach addressed the team. I wouldn’t read too much into it unless it becomes a common theme.

        • brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM

          “I wouldn’t read too much into it unless it becomes a common theme”

          OR unless a certain braid-wearing 3rd string QB is accused of having said it! LOL

  11. skip36 - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    It only took the 3rd game of the season & the deadskins are back the Giants have their number & they seem to know what some plays they were going to do( they which films of the first 2 games) after the first quarter that was pretty clear since the deadskins couldn’t do anything right, every facet of the deadskins game was nowhere,I was under the impression that Hasless was gone, the play calling was terrible( so we lost Jackson so why not use Ross the same way with his speed to open the run game) no McVay sticks to his same play calling & gets nowhere what a joke. So now we play the Eagles & if the deadskins didn’t learn anything it will be the same thing all over again, because if you do the same play calling over & over eventually it will bite you in the butt, another thing the first 2 teams played a 3-4 defense the Giants use a 4-3 defense so wake up with the play calling.

  12. Agent Smith - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Same story every year against the Giants, who historically have beaten the Redskins more than 60% of the time. If you’re a Redskins player or coach, these two games against the Giants have to be the single most important games of the year — every year. This needs to be about pride. That we’re not going to pushed around by the Giants anymore.

    Last night I saw no energy from this team. If you’re a Redskins player or coach and you can’t get pumped up for playing our perennial nemesis, then you shouldn’t be with the Redskins. We want players and coaches who want to stomp the Giants.

  13. mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Sad just sad…I think its time to change QBs kirk cousins havent improve hes still the same guy…colt mccoy is the best game manager on this team he might not got the strongest arm but he smart decisions and not scared to run the ball…why not put colt mccoy in the next game we wont have desean jackson to throw deep and we dont throw deep anyway even tho we got guys like rashad ross and jamison crowder who can catch the deep ball we just dont do it so lets just put colt mccoy in their and lets go 9-7 instead of 5-11 with kirk cousins…Kirk cousins still cant get over his mistske

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:47 AM

      Colt McCoy is no fun that why I do not want to see him. He is the king of the under 20 yard pass and creates a boring game. However, his boring and managed style can put wins up on the board for sure.
      I would like to see what RG3 has left in the tank. Rob whether people like or not has the most upside. Only Rob is capable of being a starter in the NFL and the other 2 are just back ups.
      Take a play out of Shanahan’s playbook and get RG3 running that 2012 offense again. lol

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:04 PM

      @goback2rfk…I rather see a boring QB thats getting the job done….rg3 dont fit in jay gruden system thats the only reason why they wont start him plus jay gruden cant adjustment his system to what rg3 does well

      • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:13 PM

        You’re last line is the biggest problem. The fact that Gruden is unwilling to be like the Shanahan’s and run more plays that would work for Griffin.

  14. mr.moneylover - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Time witch bring in new guys on special teams…time to bring in some DBs because I think D-Hall is done…when all ten guys do they job rashad ross will return kickoffs I just dont understand why hes not playing no snaps on offense

  15. smotion55 - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    No pass on anybody-Why is that everytime we receive the opening kickoff a penalty backs us up and we shoot ourselves in the foot. SPECIAL TEAMS SUCK, COUSINS PLAYED TERRIBLE AND A FUMBLE GOING IN FOR A TOUCHDOWN–REALLY. When the going gets tough and there is game and fame on the line we fold like little girls. Unreal how we drag our ass to do something about special teams lack of BASIC FUNDAMENTALS

    • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:35 AM

      I find this offensive to little girls. ;)

  16. greed - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    where is this great improvement from KC that gruden speaks of i seen the same qb from previous 3 seasons then he has the nerve to say team needs to play better around him RG said same thing and got berated by gruden this guy a joke and once again skins dysfunction the talk of national media even CHRIS ROCK Has something to say- Rex grossmen i mean kurt cousin is who we thought he is a BACKUP! Clearly the grudens jay and john dont like RG and took this job not wanting RG As his qb and has gone out his way to show it

  17. goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Cousins is a INT machine. Now he even looks tentative on his throws like his scared to keep making the same mistakes. There is no way to correct this problem with Cousins as he is who we thought he was.
    No way he is the future of this franchise. We need a spark, I am ready to see a little RG3 or Colt McCoy action and hopefully soon. Cousins is done. He is a backup or maybe even a 3rd stringer in this league.
    On that second interception I knew for sure Cousins was not the man. Very amateurish the way he forced that ball in there. He has to know when to get rid of the ball if the play is not there.
    If he tanks the Eagles game I know we will hear the fans yelling for Rg3. You thought Rg3 was bad until a INT machine took over.
    Rg3! Rg3! Rg3! Go get that number 10 jersey out of the trash.

  18. vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Refs blew that personal foul called on our special teams, and also blew what should have been roughing the kicker. That second punt never happens if the right call was made. Take those away, which they should have, and special teams looked decent.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM

      In the NFL Special Teams have to be flawless from week to week. A Punt Block is a really big deal and there is no way to call the “Special Teams” decent after they have a punt blocked even if it was only one guys fault.
      I also remember them missing the 1st onside kick when they had a chance at the ball. Even Gruden had to shake his head on that one. The players did not even have their arms ready to grab the ball that was deflected back towards them. This shows lack of discipline and fire which is a direct reflection of the coaches.
      The Redskins special teams have been absolutely awful for years now. Once Lorenzo Alexander was let go years ago the special teams never recovered. Sure they had the Kick Return TD but it was in garbage time and the Giants had their guard down. Even Tress Way is not playing like his self.
      I believe the Special Teams suck and need a make over for sure.

  19. bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    There’s a lot to complain about from last night’s game. Here something else.

    Jones compliments Morris but Morris does not compliment Jones. Horrible decision to start with the “hot hand” and go with Jones. Morris then Jones is like getting hammered and then getting drilled. Morris just hammers away and then you bring in Jones and you got the DRILL. He’s going to pound you some more or take it to the house. Used the other way and Jones is the hammer and Morris is then that big heavy pillow. It might not feel good in a pillow fight but it’s a welcomed reprieve from getting bludgeoned from a baseball bat. Morris becomes more of a softer finesse back for the defense – taking away his strengths. Not a good stratagem.

  20. mauriceatwood - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Anybody who thinks that there isn’t a personal vendetta against RG3 from Gruden is a moron. It is clear that there is something there that is well beyond Cousins being a better QB than RG3. I hope Snyder disallows the current administration to get rid of RG3 so that he is around for the new coach he will be hiring after this season. Maybe the Redskins and SM can lure Jim Harbaugh from Michigan. Just a thought.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:01 PM

      Rg3! Rg3!! Rg3!!!

    • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:04 PM

      The only reason Griffin is still here is because Snyder is keeping his options open but anyone who thinks Griffin would’ve played better with all the 3rd and forever’s is not only a moron but the mother of morons.

      • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM

        Its coming! Possibly early as half time of the Eagles game. You know the loud chants from the crowd for Rg3, Rg3, Rg3!!
        I wonder if Gruden suits Rob up this week. Dress Rob and let McCoy go inactive for the Eagles game!
        Rg3!! Rg3!!!

        • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:14 PM

          It is not coming. Griffin fans have not been coming to the games ant the other fans are too intelligent to chant for a guy in street clothes. Gruden won’t dress RG3 without directions from the GM. The GM doesn’t listen to the owner.

        • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:18 PM

          What are they keeping Rob around for? Why not dress him out for the Eagles game? Or wait does Gruden honestly believe Cousins is the answer?
          Rob or Kirk may not be the answer but Rob has a potential to be a starter and Kirk does not. For that reason alone I believe Rob should get another shot. And the fact that I am scared every time Kirk releases the ball. I must believe Rob was kept on the team for some reason or otherwise they would have cut him especially given his contract.

        • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM

          You not listening or do you have selective reading? I just wrote: bangkokben – Sep 25, 2015 at 12:04 PM
          The only reason Griffin is still here is because Snyder is keeping his options open…

          Snyder does not get to decide who is playing QB but thanks to Mrs. McCloughan, he get’s to say whether THE THIRD is on the roster or not.

        • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:50 PM

          If Snyder “is keeping his options open” than that could only mean that he plans on keeping Rg3 around. And if that is the case than that means Kirk Cousins and Gruden will be gone next year and Rob will have another chance as the starter with the new coach during the 2016 season.

        • hk2000 - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM

          bangkokben, Intelligent?? wow!!!! Enjoy the losing.

        • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:19 PM

          “keeping his options open” and “that could only mean” are diametrically opposed. YOU CAN’T KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN IF IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING!

          If Gru and Cuz fail, Snyder then can see if McC is willing to find a coach willing to work with Griffin. But he can’t do this if he lets THREE go. If Gru and Cuz have more week 2s than week 3s, than Snyder can let THREE walk. The Redskins benefit very little in letting THREE go right now. Sure they put the return of the savior rumors to bed and clear a roster spot but they’re used to the circus, can live without the spot, and don’t want to further alienate the THREE fans whom have bought seats for 1/3 of the stadium (not showing up, btw). Besides, they might actually need him if Cuz gets appendicitis or some other off the wall ailment.

        • hcicron - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:24 PM

          What exactly has RG3 shown you recently that he’s even remotely capable of running an offense. Boomer said it best last night “the offense they ran in 2012 doesn’t exist in the NFL anymore.” Rg3 does have a larger upside but right now seems utterly incapable of basic QB fundamentals. People have this perceived notion that Gruden would rather lose with everyone rather than win with Rg3 which is just idiotic. Get some perspective

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:37 PM

          Bang guess you feel like you’ve bin ruling the roost since I’ve bin gone. Calling people Morons and questioning their intelligence. I would question yours seeing how Rich has banned people for the same kind of actions.

        • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 2:24 PM

          Tim, nice to see you HAVEN’T been working on your reading comprehension skills while you were gone. Do us a favor the next time the team wins – some time in the next three weeks – and make a valiant effort to understand what you read.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:18 PM

          Bang RG3 is on the Roster because of the GM period. The GM sets the Roster and Gruden sets the Depth chart. When the Gruden/Cousins connection fails Gruden will be gone and RG3 will be starting under interim Head Coach Bill Callahan

  21. Stephfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Cousins hasn’t played up to par in the first or this last game. Throwing horrible interceptions? I mean come on how long is gruden gonna wait to pull cousins? He gave rg3 3 games until he pulled him but cousins gets a pass? He rippes th constantly but cousins gets a pass. Gruden is showing his favoritism on this one and it’ll be the reason why he will be fired at the end of the season

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM

      You got that right! That second INT from Cousins I knew for sure it was hopeless and over for him as possible starter. Horrible INT forcing it into coverage for a 6 yard gain. He has to throw that shit away.
      Rg3 comes with a bigger upside than the other 2 and for that I think he should get the start against the Eagles. Give him those 1st team reps over the long extended week. We all know what Kirk can do, I rather see Rg3 throw INT’s than Kirk!! I have seen enough INT’s from Kirk for a lifetime!!
      Rg3! Rg3!!

      • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM

        Don’t you mean? “I’d rather see Griffin sack-fumbles than Kirk interceptions.”

        • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:20 PM

          Actually the more I think about it I would rather see sack fumbles than INT’s or maybe I would rather see neither. However, I do know the Redskins have big issues at the QB position.
          Maybe go with McCoy what the hell. lol

        • gasngo14 - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM

          goback…AKA coldsteel
          was the guy screaming ten thousands times a day to trade WHATEVER IT TAKES for RGME !!


        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:27 PM

          I don’t put it past Snyder to let the Gruden & Kirk go down together and for him and McCloughan to hire Darrell Bevell in March.

          Maybe they can rework Griffin’s extension? I don’t know, but I could see Bevell telling the Redskins front office that he’ll run the offense he ran for Russell Wilson and since the Skins have more talent on offense around Grifdin, that Griffin could be better than Wilson as a qb in his system.

        • gasngo14 - Sep 25, 2015 at 6:15 PM

          abanig what makes you think Bevell would want anything to do with the skins or RGme …..seriously if gruden gets let go this year (2) what coach would want to risk this circus, especially a new HC at the NFL level……?

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:19 PM

          20 to 25 million dollars over 4 or 5 years says Bevell takes the job

  22. metalman5150 - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    From the start of this game, I had a bad feeling about the Skins’ chances.
    Firstly, the whole Punt – to – re kick – to Blocked Punt – to safety – to Free Kick, debacle.
    The Redskins Special teams actually found themselves on the field for three consecutive punt plays.
    Obviously there is the whole notion that the kicking team becomes fatigued on the coverage unit. A penalty and subsequent re-kick never bodes well for the kicking team. BUT sprinkle in a block on the re-kick fro a safety? Now the teams unit is on the field for three consecutive plays?!

    Thats when I knew the Skin’s would lose the game. Home Cooking can be so subtle as to barely being effective.
    Had that been a Redskin defender “running into’ the Giants punter, I believe the call would have been, “roughing the kicker” and the Giants would have been awarded a first down.

    • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM

      I don’t know who on the Redskins ran out of bounds to offset the penalty, but I’m thinking that that was a roughing call that was talked down to a ‘running into’ call because whoever made the call was 50/50 on which one it was. They should’ve held strong and said it was definitely a roughing negating the running out of bounds but the new groups of refs have been horrible.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM

      That may be, and the refs call hurt for sure, however, the refs did not decide the game the players did. The Giants still came out there and beat us down.
      Everyone got it last night, even Breeland got burnt up a couple of times. No more talk of that “Breeland Island”
      Our secondary is suspect as hell. With old aging Hall hurt again the secondary is a piecework of crapola.
      Glad we have Scott M. to sort this shit out. All faith In Scott!

  23. pdxskin - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    Not that it hasn’t already been said before by other poster, but to sum up last night:

    1. Poor play calling/coaching – abandoned the run too often in favor of trying to establish the pass, but Cousins was not on his game last night (but they kept forcing him to throw, trying to get him into a rhythm). Sloppy play/penalties/lack of awareness or execution – these faults start with the players but utlimately rest on the head coach’s shoulders.

    2. Special teams continue to be a problem – there were some good things (new kicker looks good, the Ross kick return was fun to see), but why is an undrafted rookie in his first game acting as the punt protector when you are backed up and punting from inside your own 10? We certainly did not make any luck for ourselves, as we failed to recover either the Giant’s muffed punt or the onside kicks (all of which we at least had a shot at).

    3. The D was ok but not great – front seven put no pressure on Eli, and the secondary (as we all knew) can be exposed if the front seven doesn’t bring pressure. More upgrades/depth in the secondary HAVE to be a top priority for next offseason.

    4. Terrible QB play from Cousins – he was totally out of sync for most of the night, under throwing receivers, overthrowing receivers, forcing balls into coverage when he didn’t need to, etc. He is what he is – a very average QB prospect who has a long way to go (if ever) before he could be considered anything close to a “franchise”.

    5. Reed had some nice catches for yardage, but didn’t help Cousins on the poorly thrown balls – if he comes back toward the ball, forcing the DB to engage him, he might have gotten some PA calls.
    All that being said, for those who are saying this loss proves that Cousins isn’t the QB of the future and RG3 should get another chance….. as another poster said, despite his flaws, at least Cousins can execute the basics of the offense as it is designed, even if he doesn’t always do it as well as we would like, so he is our best option at the moment.

    For all his fans who are saying last nights game means we should give him another chance, I’m sorry to break it to you but RG3 will never see the field again as a Redskin – as soon as they picked up the option for the injury-guaranteed $16 million, his fate was sealed. There is no way they can risk $16 million of next years salary cap on a QB who doesn’t fit with the offense and hasn’t developed as a pocket passer, in the very likely event that he would get injured if they put him back on the field this year.

    He will be inactive until the trade deadline, at which point he will be cut (if no trade offer has materialized in the interim). It is just business at this point, if we cut him now we eat the entire cap hit for his salary this year, but if we can trade him that salary hit will be reduced by almost half … understanding that any trade would also be contingent on RG being willing to renegotiate his contract to remove the $16 mil salary next year (which he should do if he wants a chance to catch on with another team and continue his career).

    • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 12:57 PM

      Rg3 will never die! Otherwise, he would be gone right now if it was contingent on his “injury clause.”
      Rob has been running free safety in practice. If he gets hurt on the practice field it still would initiate his clause. If the Redskins were really worried about the injury clause he would have been cut immediately. That is just business. He is being kept on the roster for a reason. Looks like he is going to be the best option next year once Kirk loses the job.

      • pdxskin - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:26 PM

        Never said he was going to die, just that he won’t be on this team much longer, one way or the other. They exercised the option this spring, apparently as insurance that he might show up and wow everyone in training camp / pre-season, but when that didn’t happen they had to protect themselves against that same contract, and so to the bench he goes. We most likely will have a new QB next year, but whoever that will be, he isn’t on the roster today.

        • goback2rfk - Sep 25, 2015 at 5:49 PM

          Thats more than likely true, however, I am going with the Dan Snyder ‘wild card’ and predicting Cousins and Gruden get gone after this year and Rg3 takes over with the new coach whoever that might be.
          Josh McDaniels is a name that comes to mind for the HC position

        • gasngo14 - Sep 25, 2015 at 6:31 PM

          goback how many coaches you want? lol!

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:21 PM

          Nance said in at one point last night that RG3 might be the back up soon.

    • hk2000 - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:01 PM

      “I’m sorry to break it to you but RG3 will never see the field again as a Redskin……………There is no way they can risk $16 million of next years salary cap on a QB who doesn’t fit with the offense…………”

      And I’m sorry to break it to you, but this offense won’t be here passed this season, so NO, nothing is guaranteed regarding Griffin, but if I were him, I’d give up all their money and ask to let go.

      • skinsgame - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:04 PM

        Yes. Please go.

      • pdxskin - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:31 PM

        Unless you think the next coach is going to bring in the read option as our primary offense, and that RG3 would be able to run it consistently without further injuring himself, then a different coaching staff next year won’t really make any difference in his success..

        To your comment “nothing is guaranteed regarding Griffin, but if I were him, I’d give up all their money and ask to let go.”, I think we do agree on that point – it would be best for RG3 (and the Redskins) for him to get a fresh start somewhere else, hopefully sooner than later.

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:49 PM

          Coaches always think they fix a great talent. Someone will give Griffin a chance and build an offense that works for him.

    • darcrequiem - Sep 25, 2015 at 2:02 PM

      All that needs to be said about the Cousins or RG3 debate is this. It’s being debated which means neither of them are playing well. I’m tired of seeing Cousins fans gloss over his flaws. I’m tired of seeing RG3 fans gloss over his flaws. I’m Redskins fan. I want the team to win. I think we all need to face the fact that our franchise QB isn’t on the roster.

      Side note: The thing I was most worried about on the team this year. Joe Barry, is doing the best job.Don’t get me wrong, there is room for improvement on D. We need to get more pressure on the QB and cause more turnovers. That said, if our QB and Special Teams don’t crap the bed in Week 1 and Week 3. When win. The defense is playing well enough to win.

  24. brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    I put the failures of this team mainly at the feet of Gruden.

    Compare him to the better NFL head coaches (which is basically EVERY other NFL head coach). Gru doesn’t show nearly the intelligence, the creativity, the energy, the toughness, the motivational skills, or the ability to adjust to what the other team is doing to him that any of the other coaches do. (Coughlin and his guys coached RINGS around Gru’s Cru last night, didn’t they?!)

    And I’m sure many here will agree that Huey’s weakness in handling players, as well as choosing players at at key positions, pretty much goes without saying.

    My only consolation is that Mac is probably composing a list of far more suitable replacement candidates as I type. Let’s just hope that the hiring of Gruden is the LAST mistake of the Bruce Allen regime.

  25. bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    Can always count on hearing from the Gru is a troll, RG3 only fans when the team loses. Hard to find them after a victory. Same as last year. Could always count on the Kirk Jerks when Griffin was suffering from such a porous o-line. Go ahead keep claiming your loyalty to the team but hide after the wins and trumpet your cause when the team we love loses. Then, don’t be disappointed when you get what you wished for – when Vinny Cerato’s red-headed nephew is picking the pieces for Art Briles.

    • hcicron - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:40 PM

      Amen! It’s as if the past 16 years of the coaching carousel has taught people nothing. They operate under WWSD, what would Snyder do? We didn’t win this year? Fire the coach. Didn’t win again? Fire the coach. Wait still not winning? Fire the coach. I could go on but if the past 2 decades hasnt shown them anything what’s the point.

    • skinsgame - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:05 PM

      Hear hear!

      • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:18 PM

        Look. When things aren’t improving for Cousins, at some point you have to pull that string also. I can see going with cousins the whole year or giving Griffin the second half of the year to redeem himself should Cousins crap himself like he’ll likely continue to do.

        I just don’t understand why some feel Kirk is going to improve. He hair hasn’t in 4 years.

        Griffin at least has shown a glimmer ever once in a while as a pocket passer, especially off of play action fakes.

    • brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:02 PM

      Sorry ben, but imho a bad head coach is a bad head coach. Keeping him around a little longer for continuity, or to see if he suddenly comes to Jesus and becomes a good one is a fool’s errand. If you have to, you just keep trying coaches till you find one. And speaking of continuity, which of the Skins many recent HCs (who actually wanted to stay around, that is) would you have kept — for the sake of continuity? Shotty? Maybe? Turner? He hadda loong chance.

      Biggest thing going against Gru, besides his obvious inadequacies, is that he IS NOT McCloughan’s guy! IMO, he’d hafta show a lot more of the attributes I listed above in order for Mac to want to go forward with him. If Gru does that somehow, than more power to him (and knock me over with a feather). But I’d guess that Mac’s too good of a football man to see Gru as anything other than a mediocrity.

      (And please tell me that you’re NOT dragging out that old “don’t criticize the team we love” trope, ben?! Cuz that may play in Bangkok, but not here. Back in the old days of the social protests, I remember a group in who attempted to shout down all dissent by screaming, “My country … right or wrong!!”. For them, NO criticisms of the USA’s actions were allowed, no matter how valid. Well, that BS didn’t work then — it backfired, actually — and it ain’t gonna work here now, either.)

      • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:09 PM

        Where’s the “like” button

  26. hcicron - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    The only problem with last nights play calling was they didn’t stretch the field enough. That’s it. Going pass heavy against a team with the 3rd ranked rush D and and injury depleted secondary makes perfect sense. The plays were there too, Kirk just had a terrible night. His reads and timing were fine but the ball placement was horrendous.

    • vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:46 PM

      I agree hcicron, Maybe if Cousins had an offseason to work with the 1st unit, instead of being told from the start he was the #2 or #3 option, his timing would be better as well.

      • vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:47 PM

        I meant to say “accuracy”, not “timing”

      • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM

        Cousins has had more reps with the starters than Griffin since the 3rd week of the preseason, how has the worked for him?

        Last night was your showcase of what Kirk is.

        • vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:51 PM

          I don’t think Cousins played well at all last night. I do think he played well vs. the Rams. Inconsistency is not a good thing, however. If Cousins can string together good games like he did vs. the Rams, then all is well. If he plays well one game, then bad the next, it’s time to move on. That’s why Gruden needs to give him a full year – we will all know by then what Cousins can and can’t do. RG3 is not a pocket passer – he has absolutely zero pocket presence. He is also not capable of playing like he did his rookie season (the one he couldn’t make it through without destroying his body).

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:01 PM

          Cousins hasn’t played above average all year. He tears it up in preseason against 2nd & 3rd team wrs, but when he had to throw to win, he fails! He’s a career back up in my eyes and I dole see it improving.

          He’s been behind and late all year and was in the preseason also. Ross and Grant made acrobatic catches for him in the preseason over and over but people just look at stats.

          Kirk passes the eye test in the pocket, he says the right things to the media but that’s where it ends for me. He’s a nice guy, good back up, not a playoff starting quality qb.

          If we’re aspiring to be average, keep playing Cousins. That’s going to get you 5-7 wins.

          If you want to find out if we have a qb of the future on our roster, play Colt or Robert. They’ll either get the same wins as Cousins or they’ll get worse. If they get worse, then that’s a top 5 pick to take a qb in the 2016 draft.

    • darcrequiem - Sep 25, 2015 at 2:29 PM

      Play calling wasn’t the issue. It was execution. Our guys were getting open. Our QB was simply off target. The Giants were loading up the box and daring our passing offense to beat them. The opportunities were there. They just weren’t taken advantage of.

  27. abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    They abandoned the run again! Just like the past two seasons & the Miami game!

    4.4 X 35 = 154 yards running. Take 15 attempts away from Kirk, split them between Jonsey & Morris & the Redskins win the game!

    I don’t care if it’s 2nd & 15 or 2nd & 10, the skins can get 5 yards about every time one of our backs touches the ball, that makes the 3rd down play achievable instead of impossible.

    • brucefan1 - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:11 PM

      Bingo, abanig!

      The Skins offense ran away from those big boys in blue, who were playin too rough along the line of scrimmage and not lettin em have their way, the first time they got their noses’ bloody.

      Kinda like a reflection of their coach, who’s done the same thing too many times during his first 19 games.

  28. vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    abanig, Cousins might very well be a career backup, but he has a grand total of 11 starts in the NFL. I don’t know how you can designate him a backup without a full year under his belt. He went 23-27 last week, and completed several key 3rd down passes to give the Skins a late TD to seal the win. I know you are only kidding about Colt McCoy – he is a great athlete, but he simply does not have an NFL arm.

    • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:42 PM

      Rich Gannon didn’t have a good arm either and he nearly won a super bowl

      • vcuramsfan - Sep 25, 2015 at 11:40 PM

        So you really want to see Colt leading the Skins? You may get your wish.

        • abanig - Sep 26, 2015 at 12:06 AM

          Id rather see Colt than Kirk because I’m tired of watching Kirk’s misreads and turnovers. I can live with an average arm, I can’t live with losing because of avoidable interceptions.

        • abanig - Sep 26, 2015 at 11:30 AM

          I’d rather see that than Kirk for 16 games.

  29. jscx3 - Sep 25, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Cuz is 3 and 9 as a starter. give him 4 more games. at least it will be the 16 games that he started and even if he wins all 4 he still is under 500. He is a career back up, but he is to timid when he throws. Gruden is a fn clown!! He wants his boy kc to produce but no. I dont think that there is a problem with pass rush, i think that NY was a desperate team that coached up, fired up and played. What i saw last night was all of our coaches got their ass kicked and trickled down to our players. Gruden sucks!! Give Alf the ball, Jones can come in for the knockout. In a weird way I am glad to see the truth come out, KC backup Gruden pinche puto!!

  30. Johnny B. - Sep 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM

    This is the same thing that happened last year. Gruden got away from the run again and had Cousins try to carry the team. You try to make him a game manager for 2 games why not the third. He is good but this game was too much stress for him. Bad coaching last year and another bad one this year. No matter how the game is going stay with the run so simple. Give Cousins a real chance to to manage the team will play better.

    Special teams suck except 1 good run from Ross. Pass rush need more help. I would rather lose by 20 but play good and stick with your plans to build this team up than play like that.

  31. redskinscaio - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    It’s so annoying to see the Skins come out in a spread formation with 4 wide receivers on 3rd and short situations. I feel like throwing my shoe at the tv everytime. Morris is averaging over 4 yards a carry and Gruden continues to take him out on a majority of the third down plays. I think that is a terrible strategy. “Hey is it third down? Is it the most important play of the current drive? I have an idea! Let’s take our best player out.”

  32. redskinscaio - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    I would think that an NFL head coach would know how to manage a game in the 4th quarter. If your team is losing by 3 possessions with 8 minutes to go in the 4th quarter and you are in field goal range, you MUST kick the field goal and make it a two possession game. That is just elementary coaching 101. In case you are wondering, instead of kicking the field goal, the Skins went for it, Jones fumbles the ball and his confidence and image is shot. He goes from being a candidate of Rookie of the Year to the guy that fumbles at the one.

    I also get so frustrated to see the corners playing 12 yards off the receiver. Give me a break. Press those guys. Sure, you’ll get burned a few times, but overall, you’ll cause three and outs and turnovers. Instead, good qbs just pick you apart drive all the way down the field and run up the time of possession.

    • abanig - Sep 26, 2015 at 10:01 AM

      You just can’t put Jones’ fumble in Gruden. That’s all on Jones. Perhaps we should have kicked the FG, but it’s not Gruden’s fault that Jones did his best RG3 impression and fumbled the ball through the endzone one yard before he scored a touchdown.

  33. Denny - Sep 26, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Gruden has made no progress. The game against the Giants was a national embrassment. The team has been poorly managed.. Redskins are a laughing stock of NFL. Gruden most go!!!!!

    • abanig - Sep 26, 2015 at 9:58 AM

      Zorn 2.0! I’m not even – not have I ever been – gushing over Gruden like I was “horny for zorny” in the first half of 2008 before unjuries derailed the Redskins season. Archives

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