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Need to Know: Can the Redskins put together a winning effort against the Giants?

Sep 24, 2015, 5:15 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Thursday, September 24, the day the Redskins travel to play the Giants.

Five final thoughts on Redskins vs. Giants

—The Redskins likely will keep Chris Culliver on Odell Beckham Jr., although they could line up DeAngelo Hall or Bashaud Breeland, too against the sensational second-year receiver as well. They will try to mix things up and get physical with him. But the best way to defend against him will be to have Eli Manning running for his life all night or flat on his back. Manning knows how to avoid pressure; he was sacked on 4.7 percent of his pass plays last year compared to the NFL average of 6.3 percent. But starting left tackle Ereck Flowers is doubtful with an ankle injury so perhaps Ryan Kerrigan can have a good night chasing after Manning.

—The Giants could have won both of their first two games, as you may have heard. Both games were good efforts by the Giants for about 58 minutes. You could even say winning efforts. The question is, are the Giants good enough to string together three winning efforts in a row. Are they due to break through and get a win? Or are they due for a flat effort? Of course you can ask the same thing about the Redskins, who played well enough to beat the Dolphins in Week 1 before winning against the Rams. The Giants did have two three-game winning streaks last year while the 2014 Redskins could muster only a single, modest two-game streak.

—I think that Jay Gruden had honestly planned to keep Alfred Morris as his primary workhorse running back. But that could change. It may turn out that Matt Jones is just too good to keep on the bench. Don’t get me wrong, Morris will get snaps and he probably has a few 100-yard games left in him. But Jones’ rare combination of speed, power, and pass-catching ability can’t spend too much time on the bench. Morris and Jones were about even in terms of rushing attempts against the Rams. I think you’ll see it take a permanent tilt in Jones’ favor starting tonight.

—The Giants are pretty banged up. Five players are listed as out, including three starters. In addition, starting left tackle Ereck Flowers is doubtful with an ankle injury. The Redskins aren’t the picture of health with DeSean Jackson still out and ILB Perry Riley questionable with a calf injury. But going into tonight it looks like the Giants have the worst of it.

—This is a short week and I’m traveling to New Jersey today so I won’t have time to do a full prediction post, so here we go. I do think that the Redskins will have every chance to win this game. The Giants aren’t very good to begin with and they have all those injuries on top of that. But even without those key players, Eli can launch one to Beckham and they can put points on the board in a hurry. The visitors will need to keep them off the field as much as possible by controlling the ball on the ground and chewing up clock. The Redskins have shown that they can go on the road and beat a division team in prime time. They did it against the Cowboys last year and they will do it again tonight.

Redskins 24, Giants 17
(predictions 1-1 on the season)


Today’s schedule: Redskins vs. Giants 8:25 p.m., NFL Network/CBS

Days until: Eagles @ Redskins 10; Redskins @ Falcons 17; Redskins @ Jets 24

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  1. sidepull - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    I dont think the Gnats are an easy out. If the Redskins can win in the trenches on both sides of te ball they will stand a chance against a SB winning QB, a heck of a WR in ODB, and I am telling you Vareen can go off as he is very versatile. I watched him with NE and he can do just about anything. Then the TE killed the Redskins last year so there that. If the Redskins come out of NY with a win, its going to really be an upset in my mind. Cousins better flip the script thats for sure. Redskins win the turnover battle. 24 -23 with our new kicker winning with a FG late. As ever, no injuries.

    • voice4thefans - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:30 AM

      Something we did very little of the first 2 games Blitz if we do that 25% of the time we win easily

      • berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:53 AM

        unfortunately Barry doesn’t believe in blitzing but I agree with you. With both starting tackles out and a guard moving to tackle and with Geoff Schartz sick with the flu and weakened…..the advantage goes to the Redskins if they bring 5 and 6 guys everytime. Manning would be hit all night long.

        But like I said….unfortunately Barry doesn’t believe in blitzing so it might be frustrating for us Skins fans to sit back and watch Manning pick us apart…..and then hear Gruden just give Manning credit for being good.

        • shermanp79 - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:44 AM

          Barry prefers not to but he does do it if that is needed. Just because he doesn’t blitz, he still wants pressure. If he can’t get it with 4, he won’t sit back and do nothing. He will dial them up!! You have Fewell here, he knows their weaknesses. All those practices for years.

        • abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM

          I’m not sure why you’d want to blitz a lot.

          If we can get pressure rushing 4 like we have the first two games, then that makes our coverage stronger and we have more guys to break up passes and make tackles if a wr does catch a pass.

          Would you rather have to blitz a lot like we had to do in 2012-13 because our DL couldn’t get consistent pressure after Bowen & Carriker got hurt?

        • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM

          From the four letter:

          Giants quarterback Eli Manning has noticed a difference in the Redskins’ defense now that they’re relying more on four-man pressures. The Redskins have blitzed an NFL-low eight times, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. “Their defensive front is impressive,” Manning said. “Making it tough, they’re playing zone coverage behind it, making you hold the ball and hit guys in second windows to get open and their defensive line’s not letting quarterbacks do that. So they’ve been impressive.””

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM

        Coverage team has been excellent so far. Keenan and Perry were all over the field making big hits. Blitzing isn’t necessary and is overrated by to many folks.

        • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:48 PM

          Agreed. In the heyday it was Butz, Grant, Manley, and Mann – no need to blitz. Riley is out though and Compton will have to carry the load in coverage.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:32 PM

          Yeah, I was disappointed to read about Riley. He appears to be having his best season so far. I doubt he misses Jim Haslett.

        • ET - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:29 PM

          I agree about Riley! He’s looked much better this season, though it makes me wonder how many of his “issues” (particularly in coverage) were scheme-related. The interior linebackers don’t seem to be forced into poor coverage matchups in Barry’s defense.

        • abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:39 PM

          The reason Riley looks better is two fold.

          1. The defensive line is better than it was the past two years. We haven’t had a DL be this active since 2011 when Bowen, Cofield and Carriker were all healthy and in their prime. In that 2011 season pro football outsiders saw Perry Riley as a secret superstar that was on the rise. Then injuries to Carikker & Bowen turned a good DL which had 13.5 sacks in 2011 to a below average DL in 2012, 2013 & 2014.

          2. A lot of it is scheme. The coverage of the ILBs works different in this scheme they are working inside out, instead of outside in and using the sideline more as an extra defender. It also helps the ILBs in coverage when the coverage is better from the secondary and the coverage from the safeties this year is certainly better than what we got from Clark, Doughty, Meriweather, Rambo, Thomas and Madieu Williams from 2012 -14.

    • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:23 AM

      So far, the team has played well against Tight Ends this year. Miami and St.Louis have pretty good TEs (Jordan Cameron and Jared Cook) and the Redskins neutralized them. By taking care of the TE, they have gotten off the field on 3rd down leading to the team’s success.

    • bowlregard - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:45 PM

      Vareen and Brady had tremendous chemistry. It remains to be seen how it works with Eli.

  2. troylok - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:34 AM

    I don’t think pounding the ball is going to be so easy for the Giants. They are going to stack the line of scrimmage. This is the game where Cousins needs to show he has grown into a better passer.

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM

      its what the Giants did to Atlanta. I watched them put 8 men in the box numerous times and they lined up 9 guys within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage mulitple times. AND they blitz 5 or 6 virtually every passing play from those formations. You are correct and there will be a lot of 2nd and long and 3rd and long if the Gruden decides to stick with the script and not run play action early against a very weak secondary.

      • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM

        That just opens them up for getting gashed by the big run.

    • abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:41 AM

      The Dolphins & Rams stacked the box also and the Redskins mostly executed their running game to beat 8 guys in the box.

      The Dolphins & Rams front 7’s and their SS’s are better and more experienced that what we’ll face tonight against the Giants.

  3. skinsgame - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:56 AM

    That Ereck Flowers is a rookie and anchors their line says something about the O line in NY. I expect the Redskins D line to own the line of scrimmage and put a hurt on the Giants. On offense, I believe it’s going to be up to Cousins to make the Giants pay for stacking the line. If I were coaching NY, I’d be sure I did everything to pressure an unproven QB and force quick decisions. I expect litmus test for KC tonight. Redskins pull a squeaker, 88-10.
    Prediction record this year : 174-0

    • captblood3000 - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:34 AM

      Will Beatty was to have been the Giants’ starting left tackle. He’s lost for the season. So what does Flowers starting really say?

      • berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

        it says Flowers won’t play. and if he does, he will play on one ankle because he is injured. Redskins should start Jackson Jeffcoat tonight and come with the heat and speed because the Giants are beat up injured and sick with the flu all along the offensive line. If they sit back and play read and react with a 4 man pass rush the Skins will lose and Manning will pick them apart.

      • skinsgame - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:56 PM

        It says exactly what I was suggesting; their line is a liability and the defense should bring the gas.

        • abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:07 PM

          Flowers has a sprained ankle. Is he even playing?

          I saw where he may not be and that would mean that Justin Pugh was going to play LT & John Jerry was going to start at Lg

  4. gonavybeatarmy - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    Wow! Rich is predicting a Skins win. The oddsmakers would disagree, just as they disagreed last week. If we allow ourselves to dream just a little, by the end of the night the Skins could be 2-1 and preparing to host the Eagles, a team whose coach just yesterday publicly rebuked his players and took zero ownership for its poor play, on ten days rest.

    • jonevans511 - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM

      I don’t think it’s fair to say the oddsmakers would disagree. The Giants are giving us 3 points, which is solely due to home-field “advantage” (I put it in quotations because some teams suck even worse at home! haha) so I think it’s fair to say on a neutral field or at home, Skins would be favored or it’s a pick ’em. That being said, I understand your point and I’ll hopefully rob Vegas blind taking the +3 tonight!

  5. colmac69 - Sep 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    Follow same formula as first two games

    Run ball

    Pressure from front four

    Steady play from cousins

    Avoid long dwn and distance

    Let’s face it the giants front seven is not even close to dolphins and rams…we should b able to dominate scimmage line…

    For first time we appear to have defense that can pressure qbs with four man rush..giants o-line banged up..

    Def a winnable game…we avoid t/overs and manage the game effectively I’m confidant of getting a win

    Redskins 20 giants 14

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM

      there wasn’t that much pressure from the 4 man pass rush. Foles was terrible. He missed multiple open receivers. Manning will stand in the pocket, take a hit, and is more accurate. If the Skins don’t blitz 5 and 6 guys they will lose. You can take a bankroll and book it.

      • colmac69 - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:28 PM

        Skins constantly pressured qb…moved him around and took him out comfort zone…Yeh he missed couple receivers but that was down to skins putting pressure on him

        By dropping seven into zone and getting pressure with four the qb margin for error is slim…we do that tonite..double Beckham then manning will struggle

        Giants won two superbowls due to a defense that could dominate by rushing only four esp in their playoff victories

  6. hk2000 - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    The Giant learned from their first 2 games, I’m sure, to score early and often and make their lead insurmountable so they don’t have to worry losing in the last 2 minutes. I never thought I’d say this, but the Redskins defense seems to be their biggest asset- even though they’re not good at getting sacks, they can pressure Manning into a couple of mistakes and limit their scoring and keep it close, but Cousins still worries me. I have no prediction other than it will be a 3 point or less game.

  7. abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Just play with the intensity they did last week and they win

  8. mr.moneylover - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM

    I kept telling ppl matt jones dont have limit on his skills of bein a running back alfred Morris do but that dont mean we will keep just one we will keep both but matt jones will be starting over Alfred Morris sooner then later especially if he have a good night against the giants tonights alfred morris might lose his starting job

    • voice4thefans - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:35 AM

      agree I love Alfred Morris like a son but he is to slowi hitting the holes, I said this in Pre season this might be Alfred Morris last year in Washington

    • bowlregard - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:52 PM

      I want to see both RBs get a thousand yards. Jay seems intent on keeping them both fresh. And he wants to run a lot.

      I think Morris’ style is deceptive. He is so smooth he doesn’t look as fast as he is. He reminds me of Duane Thomas, for those old enough to remember.

  9. Dcwun - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:35 AM

    Let’s not be in such a rush to crown Matt Jones at this point. He had a good game bet Morris still needs to be the bell cow at running back. Vision is what separates them at this point and Morris, as he should be, is far ahead of the rookie.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM

      You will be singing a different tune by the end of the year…matt jones got better vision then alfred morris matt jones only problem is staying low when he hit the hole but other then that hes solid…alfred Morris dont got the speed and shifty moves to break a 70 to 80 yards run matt jones is capable of that if he gets the blocking he needs

      • abanig - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM

        Matt Jonesdoesnt have better vision than Morris. Jones is bigger, stronger and faster. Jones has more God given gifts than Morris, but he’s not as experienced and doesn’t have the vision of Morris. Morris has found a way to go over 1,000 yards the past two years with a very average OL.

        • jonevans511 - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:19 PM

          Very, very well put abanig. I agree wholeheartedly, and furthermore Alfred has the respect of the vets on the team and is a fantastic locker room presence. He should stick around as should Matt; In fact, I love the idea of having two legit #1 RBs as we can essentially pick our poison in the running game. Want to stuff the box? Play action time. Want to try and defend our run with just the front 7? GOOD LUCK, boys.

      • Dcwun - Sep 24, 2015 at 5:01 PM

        I like Jones a lot but his vision is no where near Al Mo’s. Pay attention to the Miami game. Indecisive between the tackles.

  10. voice4thefans - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:39 AM

    If We win the next 2 games the NFC East is ours but of the next 2 games beating the Eagles is the more important task because it is a home game HTTR!!!!!

  11. smotion55 - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    I think we have enough talent to win but believe the game plan is the key- and can they just stay in the moment and play 60 minutes. After the Giants beat us twice and the way we played last year we should not need any motivation to get up for this— Biggest game since 2012 playoff game. The biggest game in Kirk’s life and hope he just stays focused and plays SMART. Giants pass defense stinks, so pass to set up run or at least take a few more shots down field might work, and Jones can catch the ball out of the backfield. If it is close in the 4th quarter we might have a chance to ” SHOCK THE WORLD”

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM

      biggest game for Cousins and biggest game for Coughlin as well. Giants coach is on more of a hot seat than Gruden ever was. But yes it is huge for Cousins because looking back at the end of the year, I believe that this game will be the turning point whichever way it goes. For Captain Kirk to stay with the Redskins, he has to do what Manning has already done which is WIN THE BIG ONE. And this is THE BIG ONE for him.

      If he loses then he continues to be just that guy who has lots of turnovers.

      • bowlregard - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM

        I agree. It is a very big game. And if the Redskins lose it will be a very big disappointment.

  12. bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    The importance of winning this game cannot be overstated. When was the last time the Redskins had a winning record? It seems as if every year the Redskins are 1-1 and about to make it 2-1 and then the season gets pear-shaped in a matter of seconds.

    Last year, the Skins were coming off a dominate performance against Jacksonville, getting 10 sacks; and the thoughts were that the defense were indeed “unshackled” and could be good. The team “gave away” the first game to Texas with bad special teams. Sound familiar? (blocked punt for a TD and blocked extra point) Then in week 3, against a division foe, special teams once again were their nemesis and defensive injuries began to turn the tide for the season as D. Hall was lost with an achilles injury and Nick Foles began to pick apart the secondary which Eli Manning continued to do the following week and before we knew it, our team was 1-3.

    Does history repeat itself? God, I hope not, but it certainly could. So far Dashon Goldson, Hall, and Jason Hatcher have been key cogs for the defense and reasons for its success. Losing one or two of these “old dogs,” and the season gets pear-shaped once again. At this point, NONE of them seem like next off season’s cap casualties, although there are fans of the team that wanted to move on from them this year. Those fans might get the chance to see what the young guys if injuries occur.

    So, I say the Redskins win tonight if they avoid the injury bug. I don’t care about the score or how; just win baby!

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:13 AM

      Also significant is this is a short week and the game is on national TV.

      We’ve laid eggs quite often in that scenario.

      If we can come through here, it’s a “yes we really have turned this team around” statement.

    • bowlregard - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:55 PM

      We paid the Rams back from last year’s humiliation. We owe the Giants double. HTTR

  13. berniebernard666 - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Warning!! Warning !!! Foles was terrible…and there wasn’t much of a pass rush on him. He missed open receivers all day. Manning won’t. If Barry plays his 4 man rush prevent defense against Manning then it won’t prevent a loss. Redskins will give up 300 yard passing and lose this game. The Giants offensive line is beat up, injured, and sick. NOW is the time to blitz 5 and 6 guys against a hodge podge makeshift offensive line and sack one of the Mannings.

    Let him sit back there and he will pick the Skins apart like he always does.

    • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:45 AM

      I do believe you had a moment of clairvoyance there. Exactly this happened:(

  14. Cal - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Kirk will have to be more than a game manager tonight… The ground attack will be vital but should get us going… I remember a play where Garcon launched one deep on a fake end & around… Perfect play for Rashad Ross… Giants have struggled to put pressure on the QB in both games & their OL is struggling some… No way ODB kills the secondary this year…. A heavy dose of Morris & Jones… Some slants from Garcon & lean on Reed heavy with no Jon Beason sprinkle in some deep shots for Rashad Ross… Viola

    • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM

      Beason was expected back unless he’s a late scratch.

    • bowlregard - Sep 24, 2015 at 1:56 PM

      I am wondering if Ross gets in the game.

  15. mr.moneylover - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    The more important key tonight is jay gruden adjusting his game plan after halftime he did that against the rams lets see if he can do it again…we actually seen him go to bench sit down next to kirk cousins and seen what adjustments needed to be made on the tablet after we struggle on our first drive in the second half of the rams game…he need to do the same thing against the giants

    • bangkokben - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:46 PM

      Saw that too.

  16. goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Thanks to the extremeskins or should I say the 3 or 4 people that sent off the Redskins this morning. Lmfao.

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM

      We have the Giants DC from last year on our staff. He was in the meetings when they talked about what they wanted to do against the Redskins last year. Sure they can change a few things, but since whatever they did last season worked pretty well, they won’t be changing a whole lot. There is nothing they can throw at us that we won’t be able to adjust to. He knows most of the players and how to take advantage of them on both sides of the ball. I don’t think that is being talked about enough.

  17. goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    You gotta check out Keenan Robinsons pimped out shoes he is wearing for tonights game. No way in hell we loose when Keenan wears shoes like that. Big game in store for Robinson tonight. I want to see one of those big Keenan sacks up the middle on slow Eli Manning tonight.
    Hell yeah, need this divisional win for sure as 7 – 9 to 8 – 8 might win up the division this year.

  18. jscx3 - Sep 24, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    Honestly i just want to see fight out of the team. Eli always shreds them up on national tv. If they play like they have the last two weeks then they have a shot. Even if they lose as long as there is progress. Just dont get your a55 kicked like last time. Keep on fighting!!!

  19. skinsgame - Sep 24, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Wow. This already looks ugly.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:32 PM

      They need to leave Matt Jones in. Sorry for Morris but have to go with the hot hand.

  20. goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    Kirk Cousins compared to John Elway?! MUAHAHAH!!! #%!#% HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:46 AM

      It´s the hairdo. From behind you can hardly tell the two apart.

  21. goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Deangelo Hall ut oh. That sucks. Feel horrible for the guy. If that is the Achilles it is career ending. What a shame! !#$!

  22. goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    I hear the chants coming! Rg3! Rg3!! RGGG33!!
    Kirk is done. Get McCoy in there.

    • hail74 - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM

      How happy you must be that we’re losing. Take your false fandom somewhere else.

      • goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:00 PM

        It is not false fandom why the heck would I be on here then? I support the Skins through all this crap no matter what and have for many decades.
        All I am saying is it would not appear that Kirk Cousins is ready to be a starter in this league. He is still forcing throws into coverage and making the same poor decisions as last year. Thats not false fandom that is what is called reality. It is not far fetched at all to think we may see some RG3 or Colt McCoy very soon if Cousins can not get this INT thing turned around. I mean the dude is a INT machine.

        • hail74 - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:28 PM

          It’s false because while it makes most fans upset to see such poor play, your gloating.

  23. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 24, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    Same old stuff.

    Bad special teams play. Bad penalties. Bad QB play.


    • goback2rfk - Sep 24, 2015 at 11:07 PM

      The biggest problem with the team is no consistency at all from week to week and that has a lot to do with coaching.
      Big screws up from everyone tonight like usual. Andre Robers with the trademark drop, fumbles in back to back games for Matt Roberts, Classic Special Teams gaffe, Eli burning them on Primetime, injuries to starters, horrible QB play with once again multiple INT’s, No TO produced from the defense..
      It is safe to say they are who we thought they were.

    • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:50 AM

      Well the Giants actually just played the Skins off the field there. Everything was sort of bad but what really gets to me is that nobody makes any plays on either side of the ball, perhaps except Reed. I can´t remember the last time we had an interception now. It´s like a bad joke or something. Evene the Jag gets interceptions occasionally while we´re just bupkis all round in game after game. We were 0-3 in TOs in this game. And while I agree that Kirk has to take the blame for two of those, why aren´t there any TOs for our team to negate some of the awfulness on offense? If the ratio had been 2-3 instead of 0-3 this might have been a win, scrappy as it would have been.

      • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 7:47 AM

        It’s not just the turnovers but where the turnovers were. Kirk’s interceptions against the Dolphins didn’t hurt the team. The first interception last night put them in a crippling hole and the Jones’ fumble erased another 7 points. That’s 16 points (including the safety) that this team just can’t spot to the other team.

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:34 AM

          You´re right. It was awful to watch.Can anyone remember the last time we caught an interception now? Seems to be since forever. And losing the TO 3-0 is always going to make things hard. This one was tough to swallow after a promising start. Same old same old I guess.

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 8:53 AM

          Every qb regresses under Gruden, that much is a fact! Cousins’ accuracy is worse than last year. Nearly every throw was behind his receivers last night.

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:04 AM

          Seems that way. Also, what was 49 pass attempts about? That was the most disappointing thing to me.We have established that anything above 35 is too much for Cousins, and that we need to run the ball a lot more than this.
          I guess the Giants shut down the run completely, but of course that was disappointing too. Oh well, on to the Eagles I suppose…Lets hope this was Kirk´s low point this season.

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:20 PM

          The Giants didn’t totally shut down the run, Gruden did! Again!

          Jones had 35 yards on 7 carries between the Middle of the 1st q & the second q.

          Gruden basically abandoned the run when we got down 15-6 or whatever that was.

          It was clear as day we could run on them, Cousins’ TD pass attempts weren’t close, but Jones was only 1 yard away from a TD becsuse he pulled a RG3

          Seriously, how unlucky is that? Two years in a row in the meadowlands we fumble the ball through the end zone in NY going for a td

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM

          Lost opportunities, that´s for sure.The whole game turned sour. We knew it would be bad if we fell behind, so what do we do? Fall behind, and that in the most demoralizing way we could come up with: a punt block and an interception on a fifteen yard field.
          I am not quite sure I agree with your assessment of the running game. it seemed to work somewhat early on but not at all after Lauvao´s injury.
          I guess there were some positives here and there: Keenan Robinson for a start. But it was just not good at all. Hopefully we can pick ourselves up for the Eagles game.

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM

          Well it is true that Lauvao’s injury affected our running game. It’s also true that Jones’ &Morris’ best runs were still off the left side in the second half.

          And if you’re worried about LeRibeus, then why not run the ball behind our two 23 year old OL on the right side that both weigh around 320 pounds?

          I just didn’t see the commitment to the run that I saw last week. Last nights game reminded me of 2013, 14 and the Miami Dolphin’s game in week 1.

          If the running game gets stuffed on just one play, our pass happy HC and OC are going to abandon making it the featured part of our offense and try to throw the ball nearly every down.

          Hence the 49 Attempts. If you take 10 or of those passing attempts away and split them between Jones and Morris you’re looking at 40 to 60 more yards rushing and at least one td.

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 2:59 PM

          Probably. Falling behind just spells doom for this team every single time it seems. But that was predictable before the game began.

        • abanig - Sep 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM

          Well here’s my issue with both Kyle Shanahan & Gruden. Both of them talk about running the ball, but they’ve never stuck to the running game when we get down by 10+ points.

          For the Redskins since 1994, their offense and passing game has only been successful when we are a run first team.

          So, if we’re down by 10 points in the third quarter, we should still be running the ball down their throats. Even if we are going 3 and out on a drive. Keep running, keep punishing that defense like we did last week against the Rams!

          The skins were soft last night in all phases.

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM

          I agree 100%. The most disappointing thing last night was that the run was abandoned to such a degree. It wasn´t even close to 50-50 and we want it 60-40 or thereabouts.
          Apparently we need to play with a lead to be a running team. Not good.

        • bangkokben - Sep 25, 2015 at 9:18 AM

          Same old, same old. Exactly. It would be nice to see a steady climb of improvement but unfortunately the reality is that setbacks are likely. Here’s to hoping that last night’s injuries don’t further set back this team. Will Compton is no Perry Riley. Josh LeRibeus makes Shawn Lauvauo look All-Pro. And even with D. Hall, this defense wasn’t getting turnovers. I’m hoping we bounce back but suspect that this is just the beginning of a long season of oh-so-close to winning.

        • Skulb - Sep 25, 2015 at 10:01 AM

          Well to be fair I have had them at 6-10 all along and I still think that´s realistic, +/- a game or two depending on getting some of this stuff sorted or not. Oh and injuries.
          Not that I´d be ecstatic over 6/10 but at least it would be progress and a bit of a foundation for year two of Scot´s team building.
          Still, last night was a tough one for everybody, fans included. Archives

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