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Can the Redskins contend for the NFC East title?

Sep 21, 2015, 8:27 AM EDT


Can the Redskins contend for the NFC East title?

We’re just two games into the season and there is a long, long way to go. But, at this moment, things are shaping up nicely for Washington.

Consider the following:

—The Cowboys, the defending division champs and current leaders at 2-0, will play for at least half of the season without perhaps their best player, Dez Bryant, and quarterback Tony Romo.

—Eagles coach Chip Kelly is looking less like a genius and more like a guy in over his head. He took over personnel controls and three of his high profile additions look like expensive mistakes. DeMarco Murray has rushed for a total of 11 yards in two games, cornerback Byron Maxwell looks lost, and quarterback Sam Bradford has two TD’s, four interceptions and a 72 passer rating. They are 0-2.

—The 0-2 Giants are choking away games in historic fashion. They are the only team since 1925 to lose its first two games after leading by 10 or more points in the fourth quarter.

—Meanwhile the Redskins are 1-1 and they had their chances to be 2-0. They are doing things according to their plan, leading the NFL in both total defense and rushing yardage. They are flying well under the radar.

As long as we’re here, let’s take a look ahead. The Redskins have the Giants and Eagles in the next two weeks. If they can keep those two teams reeling and the wounded Cowboys split against the Falcons and Saints, the Redskins will be tied for first place a quarter of the way through the season.

Then there are 12 games to go and a lot will happen. Instead of parsing out possible results of games that will be played after Thanksgiving, let’s leave it at this. Is it out of the question that this Redskins team could work their formula of running the ball and playing good defense into eight wins? Is it possible that the Eagles and Giants will go no better than 8-6 the rest of the season? Might the Cowboys, who are 6-9 when they have played without Romo, struggle while he is out for perhaps as many as 10 weeks and end up with just eight wins?

One more warning that there is a long way to go. But now there is a glimmer of hope—just a glimmer—in a Redskins season that appeared to be headed to its familiar destination of nowhere just 24 hours ago.

108 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Yes. That about sums up how close winning is from losing.

  2. troylok - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    The win yesterday was very nice but at this point I can’t look any farther than that game against the Giants. The Giants are a very talented team suffering from a few mental breakdowns both by players and coaches. They are strong against the run, but they are weaker against the pass. Unlike the last two teams the Redskins have played, the game plan can’t simply be “run the ball – a lot”. Cousins will have to throw the ball more than he’s thrown it in the last two games and that is cause for concern.

    • Trey Gregory - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:57 AM

      I guess the Giants have been such a mess lately that I haven’t been paying as much attanetion to them as I should. But their D really scares you more than the Rams and Dolphins? Even if it’s just run D? I’ll have to do some reading about the Giants’ run D before Thursday because that really surprises me.

      You’re right though, it’s early and the NYG are a talented team. If Eli gets hot, they have weapons. Hopefully we will have our top 3 corners on the field for the first time.

      • troylok - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:59 AM

        Against the Giants last year Cousins had to put the ball up and he had four interceptions. That concerns me. If the Redskins could make some yardage with the running game it will make things easier, but they are stout up front. Having Desean back would be wonderful but doesn’t look like that is going to happen. Cousins threw his interceptions last year under pressure. The blocking is better this year and the Giants d-line is still without Pierre Half-hand, so Cousins should be able to step into his passes. If they can throw deep it seemed to work with the other teams playing the Giants. I’m still waiting on Darrell Young to get involved in something other than blocking. I’d toss the rock to him early just to keep the defense guessing.

        As for the Giants on offense I just remember that big tight end last year catching three touchdown passes in one of those games. As if we don’t have enough to worry about with Beckham, they have a tight end who we can’t match up with, either. I’d slide out the defensive ends wide and try to blitz the outside linebackers every down. That might force the Giants to keep the tight ends in to help block.

        • drunksapper - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM

          The Skins last year had absolutely no pass rush to speak of outside of Kerrigan, which allowed the Giants tight ends to run amok. This year our d-line is stacked and the Skins have what’s looking like a pretty good pass rush and an upgraded pass defense. The Giants are also missing Cruz, which allows teams to get away with playing shutdown defense on Beckham, since he’s really the Eli’s only weapon since their run game is atrocious.

          The Giants defense is also in shambles and might be the worst defense in the division, don’t let the low amount of run yards fool you with NY, their rushing yards allowed looks awesome because teams are passing the ball against them at will. As impressive as the Skins running game was against Miami’s and STL’s defensive lines, it should be able to have a big game against NY.

          It also helps that Eli has seemingly forgotten how to count. I’m actually starting to be a little optimistic with the defense actually showing itself not to be a one game fluke having played 7-8 consistent quarters of football.

        • ET - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM

          The Giants secondary has had lots of turnover since 2014, their former DC is now our secondary coach, and Cousins has two more (decent) games under his belt. I’m not worried about a multi-interception game or QB implosion.

          On the flip side, the Giants always seem well-prepared against the Skins, even in down years.

          Cousins & Co. showed us some pretty good stuff against a good Rams defense. If the Skins can maintain the kind of discipline they showed against St. Louis, the next two games are winnable.

        • voice4thefans - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:52 AM

          LOL!!!!! yeah I remember that game because after the game the Giants Corner backs said it was like Christmas

        • Benjamin Hannasr - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM

          Know it’s early now,but things looking promising. All I ‘m going to say is HTTRS.

      • voice4thefans - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:55 AM

        REALLY!!! Do more reading about them try watching them I seen the blows late game leads twice this year

      • Andre - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:16 AM

        The Redskins need to continue to impose their will against the Giants. Stick to the game plan and run the football. The Giants haven’t played against a team with a running game as potent as ours. Kirk is playing excellent football and our defense is great. Keep sleeping on the skins and you will be embarrassed by a phisical smash mouth football team.

        • Dolores - Sep 22, 2015 at 12:23 PM

          I agree.

    • Joe chambers - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:23 PM

      The dolphins and the rams are to of the best teams at stopping the run. Skins ran all over them. How do you figure the Giants are going to stop them.

  3. sidepull - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    One game at a time. NY up next and the Redskins can beat them. Odell is a huge playmaker and he is probably going to be a handful. Jordan Reed is a handful so back at you NY.
    If its smashmouth football you want, you got it. Thank you Scot, Matt Jones, thank you Scot, Brandon Schreff, just thank you.
    I was amazed to see the Joe Barry D get off the fiield on 3rd down the first half. Really good stuff. I just wondered how lethal this team would be with Djax and Gallete.
    So glad they avenged the whupping they got from the Rams now on to avenge the Thursday Night Football beating at the hands of the Giants last year.
    Romo was looking surgical in nature yesterday. He is much more important than Dez Bryant no matter what Dez thinks. Huge blow too Dallas. NY is a tough out for us. Though they are 0-2, they played hard and made 4th quarter gaffes. They could have easily been 2-0, same as the Redskins. Philly, I guess you could get blown out by them in a couple plays if the defense does not tackle well in the open field. I think the NFC East is open for the taking.

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:27 AM

      If the Eagles don’t beat the Jets next week they are finished. They won’t rebound. They can’t block anyone and they can’t cover anyone. The Falcons kept them in that first game and they couldn’t beat Dallas without Tony Romo and Dez Bryant and they didn’t even come close to doing it. When your team is severely outplayed by Brandon Weedon, Terrance Williams and Joseph Randle, you have big problems.

      • samhuff96 - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:28 PM

        The Egals defense was exhausted from being on the field so long, the Egal offense did nothing much all game and the Egals did not have a plan for the backup.

        Anyway both teams lost that game.

  4. Trey Gregory - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Does anyone else find this talk bittersweet? It would be awesome to have them win 8 games and get a little respect back. But I don’t think any of us expect them to make a legit SB run. The roster still just needs a lot of help, and high draft picks are a nice way to try and do that. Although a lot could change, 2016 is looking like it will have some decent QBs to take early. I’m already licking my chops at the potential of Goff in Cal. If we win too many games, we will take ourselves out of contention for the top QB talent. Then again, if Cousins gets us to a NFC East title, maybe he’s worth keeping around. That certainly seemed to be the argument for RG3.

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:25 AM

      No reason to be looking for the next QB. College QBs are far from finished products and if the rest of the team is in place, why hold it back by “developing” a QB? Look at Tannehill. That is about the climb you can expect – especially with all the spread QBs in college. Cousins is the guy worth developing since he is already way ahead of the class of 2016. Even Griffin is more worth developing than a rookie.

      • voice4thefans - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:49 AM

        Cousins yes Griffin no because you can develop a high school kid before you can develop RG Diva

      • cmehustle - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:02 AM

        Ummmm, lol you do realize that every great QB ever came from college first right? Obviously youre going to have a bust or two. But Cousins? Hes not even Andy Dalton, I mean I would take Dalton in a heartbeat. We need a franchise QB. Just cant give up the farm, and its got to be someone who wants to work and learn the NFL.

        • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM

          Not a bust or two; try fail more often than not. Andy Dalton? (Not a franchise quarterback.) Exactly. He is Mark Sanchez 2.0. In other words, he is what has held the Bengals back and why despite being in the playoffs all of his years, they haven’t won a playoff game. Any QB from the last three years would have had similar in season results with that defense and those playmakers. Nick Foles. Colin Kaepernick, Ryan Tannehill, Kirk Cousins. No difference behind Cincinnati’s o-line, with that defense, and those play makers. The Redskin’s don’t need to start over at QB; just keep improving the defense and add playmakers. I wouldn’t say the o-line is a finished product but the skeleton is there; it just needs more seasoning. Only reason to draft a QB is if Cousins wants too much money. Until he fails; that’s the way I see it.

        • cmehustle - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:28 PM

          Ummm, hold on bro. No way on gods green earth I put Cousins in that group. You got to be smoking. Dalton doesnt know what its like to not be in the playoffs. Kaep, as many fautls as he has he’s been to a superbowl and almost won. Tannehil is up and coming, and yes he has his faults but he just got paid. A lot. Even Nicky Foles went to a probowl! The skins absolutely NEED a QB. Unless 7-9 8-8 6-10 every year works for you. Then yes, in that case, your team would be perfect.

        • abanig - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM

          It has to be a wait and see on Cousins’ future. If Cousins plays as well as he did yesterday or better for most of this season, we should not take a qb early. I could see drafting a qb in the mid rounds to develop behind Kirk & Colt, but I wouldn’t take a qb high just because we could have a top 15 pick.

          I think Kirk will show enough promise and development this season that the front office & coaching staff won’t want to totally hit the reset button on another rebuild.

          If it’s me, and Kirk throws for around or over 4,000 yards and has 20 tds or more with 16 or less ints, and the team is in the hunt for the division, I think he’s the starter for next season.

          If that happens, I think early in next year’s draft your looking for more youth at safety, the defensive line, at tight end and a bigger/faster/younger wr to be Garcon’s replacement.

          I love how tough Garçon is, but he’s given us very little explosive plays over the past two seasons. At this point, he’s overpaid.

        • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:57 PM

          Of course you don’t. You have given up on Cousins before seeing what he can do in this offense, with a power running game, and a stingy defense. Kaepernick and Dalton had exactly that and that is why they have had success. So until I see those records you put in your post CONSISTENTLY with this type of team, I’m not CONCERNED by my QB options in the draft. You act like 8-8 is somehow beneath you. If it is, you wouldn’t want to waste another pick on drafting and another two seasons on developing a college QB. In case you hadn’t noticed, most come from systems that don’t require the same things required in the NFL. Cousins has come from a pro-style offense AND has gotten his feet wet in the NFL. Why don’t you see how he develops before you jump to conclusions? FOUR incompletions and you want some guy who has never seen the tight windows that NFL QBs have to throw through. Cousins isn’t a finished product but he is far and away ahead of any college junior or senior.

    • cmehustle - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM

      I hear you on that. I also have been looking at college qbs. I like Conner Cook from Michigan State. I know thats where Cousins came from, but I think Cook could be better and turn it over a little less. I really like the young guy at UCLA, but hes about three years away from the pros. Bottom line is our franchise QB we can all agree is not on the current roster, and probably not in the NFL right now.

  5. vtsquirm - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Slow down there Rich… Cousins got away with a bad pass that should have been picked off against the Rams. We still have lots to clean up in terms of penalties (especially on Lauvao). I’d be surprised if the Giants and Eagles aren’t favored the next two weeks regardless.

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:30 AM

      No need to slow down. Both can be true. Cousins had one bad pass out of 27 – that’s two less than Tannehill had in his winning effort the previous week. Penalties will continue to hamper this team. Can they over come? The betting public is wrong half the time. AND the Redskins have a legitimate chance for a playoff spot.

    • jonevans511 - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:13 AM

      Well home teams (especially in division games) start of with give or take a -3 spread, so your comment about being surprised doesn’t hold water. That being said, if you won’t be surprised if Skins are favored over an Eagles team that cannot run the ball, who’s QB looks terrified most the game, and who lost a key contributor on D (Alonso and maybe Kendricks too), you’re not giving the Skins nearly enough credit. Even if the Eagles beat the Jets, what does that mean? It means they beat an offensively challenged team who they should beat. Skins very well may lose to the Giants but we will not look as pathetic as the Eagles have for 6 out of 8 quarters thus far.

    • sidepull - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM

      Most QBs get away with a bad pass every game. And yea Cousins did get away with one.

  6. mr.moneylover - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    The redskins not getting the respect they deserve…they took down a defensive line that most offensive line cant do and the defensive line getting pressure on the QB without blitzing and the secondary gonna get stronger with chris culliver coming back for Thursday night game…im still not a believer in kirk cousins but if we beat the giants and go up 2-1 I think redskins might be on top of the division by sunday and ill become a believer in kirk cousins…remember its just one game and jay gruden still struggling to score points in the third quarter he out coach the rams coaching staff in the first half but third quarter we struggle and gotta do a better job but that Fourth quarter we did two things we scored and we took alot of time off the clock and that is keys to success….the giants defense giving up 20+ points a game all kirk cousins gotta do is not turn the ball over when its time to pass

    • jonevans511 - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:09 PM

      You right money, not to mention we are one better ST play away from being 2-0. I actually prefer this scenario with us flying under the radar though, it gives the team motivation to go out there and perform. What I will say is this- no team will take us lightly after watching our game film. If you’re not ready to fight in the trenches you do NOT want to play the Skins right now. Let’s keep up the momentum against a questionable O Line on the Giants and hopefully our OL can contain their weaker pass rush.

  7. celeoinc - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    As for now, I just want respect. I want see how hungry we will be Thursday. Last year we didn’t show up on TH night against the Giants. However, I believe that the culture has changed and we wil be super hungry at game time. Let’s don’t forget though the Giants are a good team. Their TE killed us last year.

    • sidepull - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:16 PM

      I do think the Redskins are going to show up big in NY. I think they smell blood in the water with all that is occurring in the East.

  8. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    I want to think so.

    We need to see them follow up this game with a strong performance in New York.

  9. mr.moneylover - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    I actually like redskins bein the underdogs and I think they like it too…they taking it personal by bein ranked 32 the worst team in the NFL and they taking it out on other teams…let them say cowboys or eagles or giants will win the east because that will just bring out the best in the redskins….one advice to the redskins is to stay hungary

  10. kenlinkins - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    We all knew the NFC East was / is very weak and that anything could happen like it did in 2012. Now that the Redskins have shown a little life and gone two whole weeks without any drama that landed them as the lead story on the NFL talk shows, some of us Redskins fans are thinking maybe, just maybe the NFC East title could be there for us to take. IMO the odds have jumped from about 5% to about 25% of that happening. This team is in the race but I for one would be very happy with 8 wins this year. Now if some how going 8-8 wins the NFC East, great but the second half of the season is going to be ruff and I am not counting on the Redskins being in the play offs. Does it look better now, sure it does, but just one week ago this team folded vs. what is looking like a over rated Dolphins team. Thursday night will give us the next hint of just where this team is going and I can not wait. I am not a big Kory L fans, but if this teams gives the effort like Kory L did on Matt Jones first TD run anything can happen. (go back and look at him on that run, he fires out, then moves left, cuts under the TE and chips a DB and then gets the LB to open the sideline up. I haven’t seen a Redskins C or G do anything like that in years!)

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:40 AM

      Looking at the other teams in our division, how confident are you in the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys against the Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Jets, Falcons, and Panthers? I’d give the Redskins even money fairing better then our division against those opponents.

    • ET - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:42 AM

      It’s not that the Skins look good, it’s that the other teams in our division look 29 flavors of bad. We can be in the 8-8 or 9-7 realm and still challenge for 1st place. Dallas is still the team to beat, IMO, but they’re looking much more fragile than even two weeks ago.

      (The usual caveats, superstitions, anti-jinx measures and devotional prayers apply, as always.)

      • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM

        Exactly! And I don’t know what Ken is talking about when he says we all knew that our division was bad. The Cowboys and Eagles were preseason top ten teams in nearly everyone’s power rankings. I didn’t buy in to it and I said that we had a chance to be competitive if injuries took out one of them and if one or both weren’t as good as the public opinion. Every year some preseason consensus division winner ends up being a bottom feeder and NFC East is just as good a place for that as anywhere. Sure, it’s too early to make definitive statements – unless you’re a negative nelly that wants to dwell on penalties and almost interceptions. Amazing how a kicking change can change the special teams perception.

        • kenlinkins - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM

          I think most who had the Cowboys and Eagles counted on one or the other taking the NFC East with a 9-7 record but very few had them as a top 10 NFL team (OK, maybe Dallas at 10, maybe). The good news for Redskins fans would be that Philly gets the Loins / Cards and Dallas has the Packers / Seahawks and New York has Minn and the 49ers While the Redskins get the Rams and the Bears. IMO the Redskins get the best of that deal and could gain a game on the Eagles and maybe two on Dallas. Looking at how this seems to be unfolding that 3rd quarter in the Dolphins game is looking very big now!

        • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:42 PM

          Ken, I was touting the ‘skins schedule since before the draft. Of course, the Rams are a talented group but everyone was overselling that talent. The Redskins get the 4th place schedule which is always an advantage. Nationally and locally, both the Eagles and Cowboys were practically guaranteed 10 wins by the pundits and many had at least one of them at 12 wins. The talk was that the Cowboys pass rush, last year’s Achilles heel, was finally solved. Their rash of injuries has taken them down to ‘our’ level and like you said, they will have a tough go of it against Rodgers and Wilson. I think it is still a four way race with the Redskins suddenly having momentum. What they haven’t done, is win by smoke and mirrors. They have told everyone how they must play to be competitive and then did what they said they would do. THAT is impressive. Sure, it’s one win against a team that hasn’t had a winning season since 2003 but it’s not about who, but how.

        • ET - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM

          In this case, it is about “how” instead of “whom.” The Skins are playing the right way for their personnel. They’re refining and adjusting as best they can. And the schedule will certainly help DC in some ways. Any other NFC East team that counts the Skins out prematurely does so at their own peril.

  11. wvredskins - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    It might just be me but there just seems to be a different feel to this team. For the one the D looked really good yesterday but we were very fortunate that nick foles couldn’t hit the open wr’s to save himself. Credit to the front 4 for keeping foles uncomfortable with pressure. Jason hatcher is a beast PERIOD. Glad to have #26 back. And looking forward to seeing who they start on the outside and who the bring on for the nickel Thursday. Running game looking good! And Kirk managed the game with a CLUTCH 3rd down play to reed to deal the game. This team is a better team than last year, I don’t think it’s even close. We let one slip away week 1 due to mental breakdowns. If we can win these next 2 games that are in division games that would be HUGE! HAIL! Btw don’t think ole Kirk is itchin to get back at the giants for his mental breakdown last year! Let’s go!

  12. renhoekk2 - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    One thing in our favor is no one respects the Skins. No one. Well maybe Jeff Fisher now, but that’s it. I’m sure the Giants and Eagles are looking at the Skins game as win and a chance to get their respective seasons on track. The only national talking head to give the Skins any props yesterday that I saw was Jimmie Johnson. The rest of them talk about the NFC East like it is a three team division. They don’t even mention the Skins. Even when they win. Can’t wait for Thursday night. The Giants game was the early game on Fox here in Philly. They aren’t playing good football. They may have given the games away at the end but it’s not like the first three quarters of each game were impressive or dominating either.

    • jonevans511 - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:25 PM

      You may be right now, but when these other teams watch us on film there’s absolutely no way they’ll disrespect us. We bullied people on both sides of the football, ran the ball at will, and converted 3rd down opportunities while stopping the Rams from doing so. This will all show up beautifully on tape and I guarantee you opposing coaching staffs are worried about us. They may not come out and say it but we are putting the league on notice JUST like Scot M intended when he said other teams will remember playing us. You think the Rams are sore right now? Lol I guarantee they are.

  13. Greendayer - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    The local sports media is always hilarious. One win and they start talking about championships.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM

      It’s the nature of the beast.

      Fan is short for fanatic.

    • skinsgame - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:42 AM

      It got you to read and even post a comment. Now who’s hilarious?

    • jonevans511 - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:28 PM

      If by “the local” you mean “literally every team’s local media” then you’d be right. Philly is already sounding off on Chip and how they may not win a game, Cowboys are split because of their injuries, and the Giants media is calling for Coughlin’s head just like every year around this time.

      That’s just our division- go out to Pittsburgh and listen to their sports radio. They win a game? The Glory Days are back. They lose one? Fire Tomlin, do this, do that, we suck, blah blah.

      This is literally par for the course in sports, not just football, and certainly not just Washington DC media. Rich makes very valid points in this post and if you really cannot fathom the Skins having a chance at winning this crazy division, you’re the one that’s hilarious.

  14. voice4thefans - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Sure we can contend but it would help a lot if we traded RG Diva to the Cowboys that would a sure us at least 2 more wins

  15. goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    We are definitely in the race now!! Tony R-homo is out for 2 months and hopefully the Cowgirls will put up some losses.
    Chip Kelly ruined the Eagles. The Eagles suck bad really bad. The Eagles offensive line lookes like the 2014 Redskins offensive line. Sam Bradford for Nick Foles!?! MuAHAHhAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And the NY Giants are no real great team or anything. We will see on Thursday during this HUGE divisional game. This game is HUGE on Thursday. Oh. Oh.. I hope they win so bad on thursday! please win! do it for the gipper.

    • gasngo14 - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:28 PM

      ” We are definitely in the race now!! ”

      WOW what a change in TUNE!


      HAPPY to see you aboard finally :))

  16. mr.moneylover - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    They demoted david amerson to playing special teams and they demoted andre roberts to coming off the bench that says alot about whats going on right now….if you dont step up you will lose your job starting job or be benched….I think rashad ross will be more involved in thursday night game

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:09 AM

      Amerson has physical skills but no mental ability. he wont be back next year and is in danger of being released this year.

      Roberts has already lost his job to CROWDER. I think Roberts is in danger of being inactive when Jackson comes back. Roberts is a GRUDEN/ALLEN signing mistake. he is gone in 4 months. Thank GOD for Scott M.

      Also, Lavauo will be gone next year.

      • goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:29 AM

        Why cant they try Amerson at Free Safety for a bit. Wait a second… Just release him.

      • skinsgame - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:39 AM

        Crowder hasn’t shown much of anything at all. That’s not a defense of Roberts, it’s just an observation. With Jackson out, the WR group is far weaker so far.

        • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM

          Well perhaps Crowder hasn’t shown anything because….oh….lets say maybe because….oh…..I don’t know….maybe because he hasn’t had much of an opportunity since Roberts played the first game…..and the Redskins were busy RUNNING for 60 minutes this past Sunday.

          But he did a great job on punts considering Amerson couldn’t slow down the gunner on the punts. Crowder caught the punts and didn’t let them bounce 10 yards further downfield. That is a big improvement over Roberts. I think I will predict a long punt return shortly now that Amerson is gone.

      • ET - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:40 AM

        Roberts looks like he’ll be gone when it makes financial sense to axe him (after the season).

        I disagree about Lauvao, however. He was a huge disappointment last year, especially given his price tag. But Lauvao has looked pretty durn good this season—aggressive, confident, fairly consistent. Callahan’s scheme brings out the best in him. Will Lauvao stick next season? Maybe not with Arie in the wings. But at least he’s earning his paycheck this year.

      • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:44 PM

        well….I nailed that one. Amerson is sitting at the Bus station exactly hours after I said he was in the danger zone.

    • sidepull - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:23 PM

      Amerson was not a liability. I was relieved.

    • hail74 - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:28 PM

      I could be wrong but I thought I saw Roberts as the lone receiver in a 3 Te set on Jones 2nd Td drive.

  17. berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Gawd…..PLEASE STOP TANDLER. Skins have a…..1 game winning streak this season. ONE. This team hasn’t won 3 games in a row since 2012. In fact, a better question would be “can the Redskins win TWO games in a row?”

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:54 PM

      It’s not about the Skins winning. It’s about the state of the other three teams as well. 0-2 Giants, 0-2 Eagles (look terrible) and the Cowboys minus Dez and Romo for 8 weeks. When you win both sides of the line of scrimmage as the Skins are doing, and against two of the best DL’s in the NFL, you give yourself a chance to win every week. That’s the difference between this year and previous years. Dominating the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense.

      • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:52 PM

        “It’s not about the Skins winning.”. LOL

        That was a good one rnhhoekk2…you are quite a comedian. What comedy club are you appearing at. I will come watch the whole act this weekend.

  18. skinsgame - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    The Cowboys certainly got lucky by electing not to place Bryant on the short term IR and left the spot open. Now they’ll use it on Romo, no doubt. I wondered why the Redskins didn’t use theirs on Duke. Bryant is having a bone graft and still looks to return in short order so you’d think that Dukes wrist could’ve been handled in less time than that. The injury description was vague. Must’ve torn ligaments or tendons.

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:33 PM

      A dislocation with a fracture would’ve put Griffin out for the year last year – no fracture; came back and lost his job. If it was just a fracture or just a dislocation then the injury is much different. Might require two surgeries – one to put in pins and another take them out. Lastly, Duke (the best strong safety on the team) hardly has proved that parenthetical phrase. Nine snaps in a regular season game at that position is much different than Dez Bryant’s track record and about twenty other guys on this team. Knock on wood but an eight week injury to T. Williams or Kerrigan could occur and the team would hate to have to carry them on the active roster when one is used for a former rookie of the year for a safety that hasn’t proved to be durable here.

  19. hk2000 - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    WOW!!!!!!!!! one game…ONE win, against what appears to be a not so good team. The Giants where leading by 10 or more in the 4th quarter in both of those games they lost, I didn’t see anything in the Redskins games to tell me they can come back from 10 point deficit in the 4th, however we’ve seen many games where the Skins lost a game in the 4th quarter, so yeah, anyone who thinks they’ll beat the Giants on Thursday, is delusional.

    • sidepull - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM

      On any given Sunday my friend, On any given Sunday, or Thursday as may be the case.
      Just one week ago many were making the same statement you are in regard to the Rams. Giants are always tough on the Redskins but things in the NFC East are taking shape in ways that he prognosticators were not privy to. Giants 0-2, at home, press is just assaulting Eli, and they are backed into a corner. They are going to come out and give it their all. Dallas is hurting.. I dont think they can sustain the losses at the QB and primary WR position. If they don’t watch it their china doll Sean Lee will be out before long. And the eagles???Who knows? You get rid of all your playmakers and the heart of your team in favor of Chips system and that’s a hard team to bet money on. Just saying delusional is bit of a stretch. I would say hopeful. I am hopeful they come out of NY with a win.

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:41 PM

      Yep. Spin it that way since you were adamant about 0-16.

      • hk2000 - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:23 PM

        I admit, I was wrong, but am very happy to have been wrong as well. Nothing pleases me more than the Redskins going all the way to the SB, but after what we’ve seen from this coach, do you blame me? But since they looked good on Sunday, I will hold off my criticism for now, we’ll see.

        • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:33 PM

          We haven’t seen anything from this coach to have a definitive opinion. Yet, you have had one. You have been super quick to voice that opinion. You have construed everything wrong about the team and organization as if it all falls on THIS head coach. You have run around like chicken little claiming the sky is falling and after ONE good game, you simply restated your position to: “the sky is still falling; just not as fast.” You have set your bullhorn down for a moment but will be back Friday if the Redskins lose.

          One win doesn’t fix everything wrong with the team but it does dash those hopes of firing Gruden after the first quarter of the season and making a QB change.

        • hk2000 - Sep 21, 2015 at 3:24 PM

          Ben, Isn’t it weird how people see what they WANT to see? If you think we haven’t seen anything from this coach to form an opinion yet, then I haven’t anything else to say. Agree to disagree.

        • hail74 - Sep 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM

          I agree with Ben simply because we’re talking about a coach who has only 18 games under his belt with a team most would say was extremely untalented. I won’t fault you your opinion but realize for a moment how hard it is to build a team if your changing coaches every other year. last years Super Bowl had two HCs who each were fired from their first time as HC. Maybe the Jets are ok about firing Carroll after one year but here in Cleveland they hate seeing all of bill’s success.

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:02 PM

      If the Skins blew two 10pt fourth leads you would be using it to say how bad the coaching and the team are. The Giants do it and you try to use it as proof that they are a actually a good team. What’s next? I guess you’ll be pulling a rabbit out of your hat? Misdirection and double talk.

      • hk2000 - Sep 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM

        Yeah if they blew 2 10 point leads, I would be saying that, and I’m saying that about the Giants now, but the giants were playing very good teams. If the skins come back from 10 point deficit against the Giants and beat them, it will be the greatest turn around in this teams history and I’d definitely have a completely different outlook on this team.

        • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 4:02 PM

          I’m surprised by this admission, I’d totally expect you to state the obvious Giant collapse. Of course, this is all hypothetical.

        • skinsgame - Sep 21, 2015 at 4:50 PM

          The Falcons are “very good”? I’m not feeling it..

        • abanig - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:22 PM

          They’re clearly the best team in the nfcs. A virtual lock to make the playoffs and host a home playoff game, most likely two because the division is average to bad besides them.

        • skinsgame - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:08 PM

          That doesn’t make them “very good”. It makes them fortunate, perhaps.

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:55 PM

      couldn’t agree more. Lets not get too excited about one game. Yes we can all get drunk this week and wear Redskins shirts without being embarrassed. But ONE game? Really?…and some fans are talking about winning the whole division…playoffs….perhaps Superbowl? Perhaps even Masters of the Universe shortly after that. All after ONE single win. WOW!

  20. Regg - Sep 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    This is why the Skins don’t make it out of the realm of reality with articles like this and preconceptions about success that hasn’t been attained and earned. Keep the banter about winning until they’ve actually done something to earn it.

  21. Scoob - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    really??! you are reaching Tander..
    The answer is NO!!!

    • Rich Tandler - Sep 21, 2015 at 1:27 PM

      Sorry for trying to have some fun.

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:56 PM

        Lettuce be a lesson to you!

      • berniebernard666 - Sep 21, 2015 at 5:58 PM

        tell ya what Tandler….if Friday morning we all wake up and the Redskins have stolen a victory against Eli Manning and the Giants… go ahead and recycle that question and nobody will make fun of you. But let’s get at least get TWO consecutive wins during a season first.

  22. abanig - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    Of course, the entire NFCE has been open for as long as I can remember. I feel every year anyone could win it. Injuries usually are the deciding factor.

  23. mauriceatwood - Sep 21, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Well, I have to post and eat crow as well as humble pie because I was certain that our beloved Skins were toast against the Rams. My concern was the team wouldn’t be inspired very much by the coaching staff especially after Gruden’s comments last week that last seasons game against the Rams wouldn’t be used for motivational purposes. I read Rich’s column where he reported that Trent Williams watched the 2014 game as a means of motivating himself and good for Trent to do that. Maybe he was able to convince some of the others to do that as well. Good for him if he did. If I were the coach we would have watched that entire game as a team, but that is just me. In the end we won and that is all matters and with everything else going on in the division it just may be possible for the Skins to compete for the division title. Winning in NY would be a huge step toward that accomplishment.

    With the QB problems in Dallas and Philadelphia makes me wonder if Jerry or Chip will make a play for RG3. What do you think Rich?

    • hail74 - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:23 PM

      Maybe Gruden just didn’t want to make a big deal of it in the press to give the Rams bulletin board material.

  24. lorcanbonda - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    It seems a little premature to be punching the playoff tickets. The Giants defense is not what it used to be, but they lost to two undefeated teams in the last minute — not exactly the height of disarray the press is painting. The Cowboys will struggle until they get their weapons back — but the Skins don’t play them until then and the Eagles are going to get some of these struggles figured out.

    In the meantime — we still have Special Teams issues, penalties, and a poor turnover margin. We have no interceptions and one fumble recovery in two games. We also have a long touchdown pass against our defense in each of the games. We’re going to have to throw it down field a few times a game or defenses will begin to cheat up to cover the run and the short pass.

    It was a great win, but I’ll never understand this roller-coaster mentality where everything looks great after a win, but everything is a disaster after we lose. Teams are going to game plan against Jones/Morris and make Cousins beat them.

    • bangkokben - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:59 PM

      There’s a big difference between seeing playoffs as a possibility and ordering tickets. Playoff teams aren’t devoid of weaknesses they simply over come those weaknesses. As for the flaws mentioned let’s correct some misinformation: “We also have a long touchdown pass against our defense in each of the games.” Not true. The defense has given up just two TDs all year – the bomb following the fumble and a TD in the final two minutes of the half against the Dolphins.

      The Jarvis Landry TD was a punt return. That brings us back to special teams. Vastly improved in one week by kicking off out of the end zone 4 of 5 times and short punting. Failed execution on most of these punts but not giving up a TD was huge. Most importantly, the special teams by and large won the field position battle contributing to the ‘skins opening the scoring while the Rams were spinning their wheels on their side of the 50. As for penalties and generating turnovers, there are two ways to read that. Both are reasons the Rams were still in the game and had the Redskins improved in these areas as well, then that game would’ve been even more one-sided and would’ve resulted in a rout.

      Of course, in the NFL very little carries over week to week; but if we can get the same effort on both side of the ball, more often than not we will be on the winning side of the ledger.

  25. goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    New ESPN news and Bleacher Reports coming out say that RG3 and Cousins do not speak any more do to the animosity between them. Lmao. Where do they get this stuff from?

    • kenlinkins - Sep 21, 2015 at 4:00 PM

      I guess some reporter wanted to try and get the last $50.00 he could out of RG3’s troubles for his web site. I am not even sure how this is a story. Where could this come from? If I had to guess it would be from someone else who might feel that the Redskins have not been 100% honest with him and is headed to the bench as well, maybe someone like WR Roberts! (just a guess, but I would check with him first) RICH: Would a reporter run with a story that was gained from a players crew/camp concerning something in the locker room if that crew member was not allowed in the locker room (i.e. 3rd party hear say)?

    • gasngo14 - Sep 21, 2015 at 7:49 PM

      FROM PEEPS LIKE YOU …you know the guy who preached the rg3 chants were COMING ………..HA!

      • goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM

        Those Chants are still coming!! The silent majority loves Rob. I never said I was one of them. I guess when they dont dress him for the game there is no chance he is coming in.
        Oh. well. I still here it coming… Rg3! Rg3! Rg3!

        • gasngo14 - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:35 PM

          All i can tell you is take them posters down:))

          I can remember you screaming load and clear over and over and over again to draft RGME at all cost,


        • abanig - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:41 PM

          Honestly, everyone should know Snyder still loves Griffin. If things should go south for Gruden & Cousins this year don’t rule out McCloughan doing what Allen should have done in 2014.

          Hire Darell Bevell to be the head coach to install a system similar for RG3 like what he’s done for Russell Wilson in Seattle.

          Also, if we don’t approach a winning record don’t be shocked if Bruce Allen is let go also.

          I could see a total scenario where Allen and Gruden are fired. McCloughan is promoted to both team VP & General Manager. McCloughan hires Bevell to be the HC and then Bevell decides to promote Callahan to offensive coordinator.

          I just don’t see how we can count anything out with this organization anymore.

  26. cowboyhater - Sep 21, 2015 at 3:16 PM

    Are we really going there with that?…..Come on fans, even though I was wrong about this game; to even start thinking about winning a division is ludicrous. This team is far from consistency which you will be in for a rude awakening if you disagree. We went against an overrated defense in Miami, and 2 very poor offenses in both Miami and Stl. The good thing is a win can really catapult a team to change a mindset, but this team is just not there yet to run off wins, and to beat the upper echelon of this league. On a side note….what cracks me up is that even though we made that trade with Stl…they are still a mediocre team, and extending Foles contract was even funnier. Who is their GM? He should be fired. Gruden in response to Fishers antics last year when he sent out all the players that were drafted from “the trade” for the coin toss should have just sent out RG3 yesterday…that would made for a great story this morning.

  27. gonavybeatarmy - Sep 21, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    It’s way too early to come to any conclusions. This whole season could unravel at some point. And I always viewed this as a few years rebuild. But we could all really fall in love with this team this season.

    McCloughan is putting his stamp on this long time clueless organization. He’s finally giving an identity- a violent, brutal brand of football. And Gruden, Callahan, McVay and Barry as well as the players seem to have bought in.

  28. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 21, 2015 at 6:09 PM

    David Amerson is gone.

    Another bad 2nd-3rd round pick by the prior regime. In McGlue we trust.

    • abanig - Sep 21, 2015 at 7:49 PM

      Another great pick by Shanahan

  29. gasngo14 - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:09 PM


    After a win WITHOUT RGME and a day when we cut Amerson and that Helu guy has done nothing in Oakland….ZERO ! HA!!

    He must be lost for words considering he talked these players up and they have been a complete failure, never mind him calling ALF a practice squad player at best and being a BIG Mike- Redface fan? While dissing Jay Gruden ……All i can say is HA! He must have changed names once again:))

  30. goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Looks like RG3 and Kirk are about to have one of those Geno Smith locker room moments. Watch Kirk you are fixing to get chin checked.

    • gasngo14 - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 PM

      Do you amuse yourself with these childish comments?

      • goback2rfk - Sep 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM

        Muahaha! RoFlCoPterS!

    • brucefan1 - Sep 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Why you wanna give that bullsquat a shred of credibility by even mentioning it, especially in a way that indicates you might actually believe it bro?

      You haven’t seen Griffin always sitting with Cuz and Colt when the other team has the ball — and cheering his guys on right up on the sidelines?! Then you ain’t been paying attention. You didn’t hear Cuz strongly praise Robert when named the starter? You ain’t listening then either!

      (Tell me goback, If you hadn’t read this unsupported story, corroborated by no OTHER DMV reporter, would you have ever felt these guys had a beef with each other?)

      Repeating this stuff without disclaiming it as total BS just gives the weak-minded another reason to believe it.

  31. Skulb - Sep 22, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    The obvious answer is “yes”. Eagles are a trainwreck, New York have Eli in his most somnabulistic form and Dallas just lost their two top guys for most of the season.
    On our side we are leading the NFL in D and rushing. Not only that but the Skins ran it like mad on two touted top 5 defenses. There was no change from week 1 to week 2. We should have won against Miami who had a single decent drive the entire game and scored on it. Mistakes gave that away but both ST, offensive penalties and the secondary was much improved from week 1 to week 2.
    Thursday is now a huge game. Win that one and the Giants are in a deep hole. I can´t see Philadelphia winning against the Jets the way they´re looking now, so they´ll be in a hole too. For a while there Rich Tandler had more rushing yards in the NFL this year than Murray. And that leaves Dallas. If Dallas loses on Sunday after we beat the Giants it´s definitely on for the Skins winning the NFC East.

    Hell, Cousins even started and finished a game while winning. And he threw zero interceptions and rallied the team in the fourth. These are all things I was rudely informed would be impossible for him because “We know what he is. He is a backup.” It´s almost as if he needed more than ten starts to get going. Who knew right?

  32. smotion55 - Sep 22, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Such a wide scope of comments on this.Rich is brueing up that Pot of POO . Let,s go to New York and win there 1st. If we can,t beat this team no use talking about the rest of this division or season for that matter.It is all depends on how Cousins pays and reacts to miscues. I have to admit a little excited about this – A win would be HUGE

  33. smotion55 - Sep 22, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Such a wide scope of comments on this.Rich is brewing up that Pot of POO . Let,s go to New York and win there 1st. If we can,t beat this team no use talking about the rest of this division or season for that matter.It is all depends on how Cousins pays and reacts to miscues. I have to admit a little excited about this – A win would be HUGE

  34. joeyjust4u2 - Sep 22, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    I an a Redskins fan,however,the way they have been treating Robert Griffin III is not good.If there is a way that Robert Griffin III to be the quarterback for Dallas,that would be a good thing.I would get me a Dallas jersey with Griffin III on the back and where it proudly as they beat the Skins twice a year.Or if there is a way that Robert Griffin III can play for any NFC East team.Maybe Robert Griffin III is getting paid this year for sitting and will get 16 mil next year since it is on the books.We have 14 more games this season and i believe we will need some body bags.Robert Griffin III is my favorite player,then Ryan Kerrigan and Pot Roast.I will watch the game Thursday and see what happens.Will see what Cousins,Aunts and Uncles and Parents will do against the Giants. Archives

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