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Need to Know: First thoughts on Redskins vs. Rams

Sep 16, 2015, 5:41 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Wednesday, September 16, four days before the Washington Redskins host the St. Louis Rams.

Five early thoughts on Redskins vs. Rams

—I’m not about to break out the “must win” label here but this is an important game for the Redskins. A loss puts them at 0-2 at home with a quick turnaround to play the Giants in New Jersey on Thursday. Then after a 10-day break the Eagles, who looked like the team most thought they were in the second half on Monday night, come to town. You have to think that the possibility of an 0-4 nightmare start with seven of the final 12 on the road is very real if they drop this one.

—Wide receiver Tavon Austin has not yet justified his status as the No. 8 pick in the 2013 draft. He had 658 receiving yards in his first two seasons combined and he had two catches for minus-2 yards against the Seahawks last Sunday. But he can return punts, as the Redskins learned last year when he took one against them 78 yards to the house. The Seahawks know it, too, as he returned on 75 yards against them. Tress Way had better not outkick his coverage. Better yet, he should angle kicks out of bounds and make Austin try to beat them as a receiver.

—Brandon Scherff did a good job against Ndamukong Suh last week. His reward is Aaron Donald who doesn’t have Suh’s paycheck but he is every bit as tough to handle. He went wild against Seattle, posting two sacks of Russell Wilson and recording a total of nine tackles. In all, the Rams recorded six sacks with Robert Quinn, who will line up against Trent Williams, also had two. And you know that left end Chris Long (vs. Morgan Moses) and right tackle Michael Brockers (Shawn Lauvao) want to catch up with their line mates in the sack department. Kirk Cousins’ ability to avoid taking sacks will be tested.

—The Cousins-Nick Foles duel in Philadelphia last year was entertaining, with the Redskins QB throwing for 427 yards and three touchdowns and Foles going for 325 and matching those three TDs. The Eagles prevailed 37-34; it will be a surprise if the game on Sunday is that high scoring. It should be remembered that the Rams thumped the Redskins at FedEx last year 24-0 with Shaun Hill at quarterback. I’m not as sold on Foles as some are but he’s certainly a significant upgrade over Hill.

—The chatter around town hasn’t started yet but the theme is going to be that the Rams beat the Seahawks so the Redskins have no chance against them. The Redskins may well lose but everyone should keep two things in mind. First, Rams-Seahawks was a division home game and strange things happen in such matchups. St. Louis has beaten Seattle at home three of the last four years under Jeff Fisher but they still don’t have a winning season on the books with him as the coach. Second, the NFL is a week to week league. You only have to go back to last year to remember the talk of how invincible the Cowboys were when the Redskins went there on Monday night. They were 6-1 and coming off of wins in Seattle and over the Giants. But the Redskins won. Again, the Rams could well win but any talk of the Redskins having no chance is silly.


Today’s schedule: Player meetings; no media availability

Days until: Rams @ Redskins 5; Redskins @ Giants Thursday night 9; Eagles @ Redskins 19

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  1. redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:11 AM

    “Brandon Scherff did a good job against Ndamukong Suh last week. His reward is Aaron Donald who doesn’t have Suh’s paycheck but he is every bit as tough to handle. He went wild against Seattle, posting two sacks of Russell Wilson and recording a total of nine tackles.”

    Poor rookie just can’t catch a break! However if Schreff continues to hold his own against some very good lineman then he is on his way in earning his 5th pick in the draft.

    • kenlinkins - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:25 AM

      It could have been Chester and not Scherff we are talking about this morning. How depressing would that be?

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:29 AM

        To depressing to even comment on

      • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM

        I feel sad just thinking about it. Thanks a lot, redskinsnameisheretostay!

  2. colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:28 AM

    OMG. At least we have the rue of them trading away Sam Bradford for Foles. Bradford looks great and is going to be a terror as a QB in our division. Bradford is a facilitator of the football and releases it on a dime. Fastest release I have seen in awhile. So at least we don’t play the Rams with him. We get him the next week. LOL

    I is just like us to have a world class front defensive 7, and then have our top CB suspended for this game, while the rest of our DBs are injured. We are practically playing with DBs that have one leg. Behind a world class front 7. That is the Redskins style synergy! How many starters do we have out for the season after the first game of 16? Has to be a record. Only the Redskins can break a record like that.

    This is going to be another long season unless we can pick up some talent off waivers. And then of course we are the team relegated to building a team off waivers vs long time draft development and FA.

    How did we get here? Oh yea SNYDER lead us here.

    If we lose this game 0-4 is more than likely. Then we will be hearing talk of our head coach being fired. Only in DC do we get to look forward to ghis circus year after year.

    This is a must win game skins!! Don’t put ourselves in a 0-2 position like so many years in the past please. We just got rid of the QB drama we don’t need more.

    Your devoted Redskin fan…

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:51 AM

      I thought Bradford looked okay at best unless you like quarterbacks (i.e. Cousins) that only perform well for two quarters a game. This isn’t preseason anymore.

      • colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:03 AM

        70% completion for over 330 yards. Has not played in 2 years and was standing in the pocket taking hits. Not a bad come back after 2 ACLs on the starting day of the season. He has no fear. Not like the fear of a QB we once had as a starter that demanded playbook changes after his injury. He will be tough if he stays healthy.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:08 AM

          Yeah I agree that Bradford could be very good in Chip’s system. He thrived with a similar offense at Oklahoma. You have a point about his long return so maybe he had to shake off some game day rust. Sam did look off balance early against the Falcon blitzes but he rebounded from that very well.

        • celeoinc - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM

          I noticed that the Eagles did very poorly against the blitz. I know that sending the house all the time will result is some big plays against us, but also it will stop them often as well besides of increasing our chances of getting turnovers. There is no way we can stop the Eagles without sending the house often. As far the Rams go, I believe we should blitz often as well. By the way our two minutes defense against the Dolphins looked terrible.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM


          I’m not sure about how much blitzing should be done against the Rams. We’ll have to see about the Eagles when that game comes around. However, let me restate some important facts here regarding blitzing…

          “Rams quarterback Nick Foles was blitzed eight times by Seattle. He completed 5 of 6 passes with a touchdown and a 151.8 passer rating.”

          “Last season when they sent an extra rusher at least 10 times in each of the first nine games. Not that the extra rushers helped: Opposing quarterbacks posted a 106.1 rating. San Diego, where Barry coached linebackers the past four years, blitzed 33 fewer times than Washington in 2014.”

          Now staying on the topic that the Chargers blitzed 33 times less than our defense last season: The net results of our additional 33 blitzes gave us 10 more sacks BUT yielded 10 more touchdown passes for an additional 500 passing yards. Those are not positive results that span across a whole season. Besides we don’t have the speed or edge rushers at linebacker needed to make offenses pay by blitzing. Finally, the coverage team is in constant flux right now between suspensions and injuries. I don’t think the defense can afford leaving coverage even more exposed by blitzing. Overall those blitzes will not yield good results IMO. It’s just not a good idea right now.

    • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:44 PM

      Let’s pump the brakes a bit on “world class” front 7. The DL is real good and Robinson is a rare 2-way Mike. I even give that Riley is much better than most think but world class front 7s have better Jacks. The problem is in any defense, pass rusher is the most important position, even more so in a 3-4. They can’t be a top 5 defense, much less world class front 7 until Kerrigan, Smith or Murphy become dominate – against Left Tackles and TE/RB chips. I like Kerrigan but he is outclassed against decent LTs alone.

      And you are way off base on your IR thing. One real starter on IR is no where near a record. Yes, Paul won the starter designation but 28 to 30 teams would kill to have Reed. (Probably shouldn’t use kill in the same sentence with the next Aaron Hernandez but it was fun!) And while Galette is far and away the best pass rusher on the team, he’s technically not a starter as Murphy would get the running down snaps. Combine those two half-starters into one and two starters on IR is still far from any record.

  3. redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:49 AM

    So the team places a starting safety on IR and adds a nickel corner in Blackmon? That doesn’t seem like a replacement for the void left at strong safety to me. What’s left is a hobbling Trenton Robinson and the unspectacular Jeron Johnson. I understand we have to replace Culliver but that’s just one game. The addition of Blackmon may speak more about Amerson than Ihenacho’s injury. I’m not sure if this puts Amerson on notice or is it the next last step in moving him into a safety spot (FS). It’s pure speculation on my part about the secondary scenarios here but safety is looking pretty thin right now. It’s also probably an indication of just how little value in available safeties are out there right now.

    • colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:04 AM

      Totally agree here. Makes sense.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:31 AM

      I thought the same thing…they brought in blackmon because david amerson and they added another CB on the practice squad….these so call experts said they might get rid of justin rodgers if he cant go this week against the rams I dont believe that…they looked at the tape and david amerson looked terrible and they dont trust him being out there on the field if blackmon can come in and pick up things and do some good things they gonna keep him if justin Rodgers can go that leave david amerson the odd man out he cant cover short routes he cant cover long routes he gotta go his confidence is shot into pieces

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:06 AM

        Amerson had two well defended passes but then was a huge liability in many others. I agree the teams will throw his way if he is on the field. I’ve been more patient about Amerson than most fans here. However, mine is wearing thin on him as well. He has tremendous upside but he can’t seem to avoid getting beat badly during games.

        • renhoekk2 - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:16 AM

          At least they aren’t paying Amerson the kind of money as the Eagles are to Maxwell for the same type of coverage. Julio was beating him by three steps and he couldn’t keep up with 33yrd old Roddy White either. It’s safe to say that no team can go to their 3rd or 4th CB and not have a liability somewhere.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:34 AM

          That’s true that many teams have significant decline in coverage going to the third CB. However, I expected much more from Amerson. I still hold out hope he can be a very good CB but it’s quickly becoming more apparent there is just two sides to him …the very good and the very ugly.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:36 AM

      They looking for CB depth not so much at safety they believe they already got depth at safety CB depth is still questionable they looking for guys that can come in behind deangleo hall Chris cully and justin Rodgers

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:58 AM

        Yeah, I was thinking it was Robinson with has plantar fasciitis. It’s Rogers that has it and that injury can take a long time to recover. I guess if they think Rogers is going to need substantial time then they may place him on IR. I don’t think they’d outright cut him.

  4. colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 6:52 AM

    O/T: how do you know when it was the right move to cut a player?

    When 31 other teams are not interested in picking up your slop.

    Apparently there are 31 other teams that think their kicker is better than Forebath. So many core skins fans thought he was “top 10 due to accuracy”.

    Everyday that passes without him being picked up is a another day confirming he is worse than 31 other starting kickers.

    Getting real…

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:05 AM

      I think you are jumping the gun here. I agree with moving on from Kai but there hasn’t been much time yet for him to even show up for team try outs. Give it at least a week and then I think we can start to speculate about the rest of NFL’s impression of Kai.

      • Darren - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:22 AM

        Who cares.

    • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM

      Folks were saying the same thing about Gano. Forbath does not represent the type of talent that teams jump on but that doesn’t mean he’ll never kick again in the NFL. I put the over/under at six weeks and take the over. If he’s picked up before then, then someone likes him. Jake Long is just now getting on a team; most teams in the NFL don’t give up on their investments right away. Jacksonville traded Josh Scobee, who missed two 40+-yarders for Pittsburgh, and their rookie missed an extra point and a 40+-yarder of his own. They aren’t likely to jump on Forbath or any kicker until their guy consistently wets the bed.

      • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM

        Over the years, the NFL has been littered with kickers the Skins cast off who succeeded (albeit, to various degrees) with other teams.

        All while the B&G are still looking for their franchise kicker!

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:32 PM

          I expect Forbath may get a chance on a different team – a team that has excellent coverage units or a team that has a kick-off/long range specialist. The Redskins is not that team.

  5. Darren - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:23 AM

    Our offensive line is sick. Soon will be talking about our offensive line being naaty.#httr

  6. abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Clubber Lang: “My prediction to the fight… PAIN!”

    • colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:30 AM

      LOL! How did you do that?

      • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM

        Pretty easy, went to YouTube, copied the url and posted it… :-)

        • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM

          Dude, I’ma do that with the first appropriate Bruce song I come up with! ;^}

        • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:42 PM

          Gettin’ ideas for videos already!

          Howzbout an Alf Morris montage to “Born To Run” … or an still-optimistic early season song like “Land Of Hope and Dreams” (cuz the Skins have a mix of saints & sinners, loser & winners – well still workin on winners – and lost souls, right?)

          Just hope we don’t have to end the season with “My City of Ruins”!!

        • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:51 PM

          Let’s try to keep the vids to a minimum. Now that every nob knows how easy it is to post a link, I’m afraid of YouTube spam or link post ability being removed.

  7. Rasmus - Sep 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    We’ll put up a good fight if we play like we did in that first half vs. the fins… I was really proud of our team for a moment and then it all broke down haha #httr

    • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM

      I mean we’re going to be feeling the “PAIN.” I do NOT see this game going well for the Redskins offense. It will be similar to last year’s loss aha isn’t the Rams, except hopefully we can put up sown points, but I don’t expect many.

      • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:53 AM

        Nothing like using a mobile.

        I’m putting the over under on the Redskins points at 10.
        I’m taking the over. I’m guessing we get 17 this week.

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:54 AM

          I have Hopkins missing two field goals and the Redskins losing 24-21.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM

          Of course you do. What are the distances? The fact that you see the Redskins being able to score a potential of 27 points is encouraging.

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:29 PM

          Let’s go with 45 & 46.

          You know the ones that Kai had last week…

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:32 PM

          In that case, let the carousel begin..

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:33 PM

          It shouldn’t be a carousel, Kai should be our kicker.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:42 PM

          He had his chance. Time to move on. Why should the Redskins be the only team defending kick-offs? Even with your game prediction, that’s four kick-offs for us that don’t have to be defended. And as far as improving teams, that has been tried and failed way before Kai was the kicker. Is he your cousin? your neighbor? your nephew? your squash partner? I just don’t get the loyalty.

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM

          Because like I said, for 20 years the Redskins have been searching for a reliable FG kicker. Someone who could be almost automatic from 40 to 50 yards. They found it, now they’re giving it up.

          It could be a very long season and another 20 year carousel if we can’t find a kicker that can do that.

          Look at what the Eagles are going through right now with Parkey?

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

          “Someone who could be almost automatic from 40 to 50 yards. They found it,”

          NOT AT ALL! He two for five in his last five kicks from that distance spanning ten months.

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 2:59 PM

          Right, so you had to go back nearly a year. Great, grand, wonderful!

          There’s a reason why Hopkins didn’t keep the job in NO and why no one else picked him up you know and contrary to most redskins fans beliefs, it’s not because Zack Hocker is the second coming of Steven Gostkowski.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM

          There’s a reason THE REDSKINS picked him up – snatched I say considering he wasn’t out of work long. Two words: Kai Forbath.

          It isn’t Hopkins, it’s let get someone that can kick it through the end zone and if he can break 40% on kicks 45 to 50 – bonus! He might even if you an option beyond 50. You sound just like the Griffin fans rooting for Cousins implosion. In six weeks when Kai lands a job you can follow him wherever that may be.

  8. mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    Rams gonna score twice on special teams one on kickoffs and one on punts or it might happen twice on punts…kirk cousins will give the rams more chances to come back and score…this game got blowout written all over it…they have to do better then what they did last week they cant just score 10 points and win they have to score 20+ and they struggle to do that with kirk cousins

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:06 AM

      The team averaged 24 pts a game last season in games Cousins started and 15 pts a game in games Griffin started. Or did you forget the 6 pts he put up against Houston and the 7 pts he put up against TB. They combined for an 11-21 season so they weren’t exactly powerhouse teams.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:46 AM

      @renhoekk…thats BS because kirk cousins will score once last year then start turning it over like crazy thats why people feel nothing has change with kirk cousins he is who he is…the last game kirk cousins put up big numbers in a game was the eagles game last year look at the games after that and you will start pulling your own hair out if you have any

      • renhoekk2 - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:11 PM

        I don’t think either QB is the answer. Cousins is a better fit for THIS offense. It’s a West Coast offense that requires disciplined drops and throwing to spots in rhythm on time. Requires reading the defense so that when you hit that 5th step on a 5 step drop the ball is out to the correct WR. That’s why there was such an uproar after the TB game when it came out he was taking one step drops when it required 3 or he was taking 3 or 7 step drops when it required 5. The timing for the whole offense was off. Or he would take the correct drops but not release the ball on time. WC offense is based on timing. If you see the correct WR to get the ball to you have to throw it to the spot he’s supposed to be at when you hit your lost step in your drop. Robert wants to wait until he sees the WR open, which is too late. That’s why he looked great in 2012. Those where different concepts. He thrived. Shanny runs a version of the WC offense as does Gruden. That’s why 2013-2015 Robert struggled. He doesn’t have the skill set for the WC offense. It’s not his fault. He never had to drop back and throw from a timing based offense. They should have never hired another WC offensive coach in Gruden if they wanted Robert to have success. If they had a GM in house that knew anything about football at the time he would have found a coach and scheme that fit him. Instead Allen hired a OC that he knew from his TB days.

        • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM

          Stop right there. It is the same passing offense, just more power run, less zone.

          RGIII is the best fit in any offense – when healthy. His rookie mechanics, reads & decision making were stellar. But since, he’s been broken, mentally. He changed, not the offense – they even use the same verbiage!

          I’m sick and tired of people trying to take away what he accomplished as a rookie just because his career is over and they heard someone say something they don’t understand but regurgitate it anyways. Tape don’t lie. NFL Game Pass is only $100, there are even promo codes on Google. Educate yourself instead of repeating some one else who doesn’t watch tape (TV guys) or is self promoting (Shanny.)

          A has been will always be better than a never will be in my book. But we have Cousins for now and he is still better than at least 10-15 starters out there. They should be able to win with him and I expect them to do so.

        • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:23 PM

          Too bad we couldn’t have caught a glimpse of whether or not Griffin had improved in those areas tho, Ren. That plug was pulled way before the machine ever got juiced up. A scant few series of preseason playing time.

          And no doubt many will say that the coaches saw all they needed in practice, but it struck me as REAL odd that many up-close observers were commenting on RG’s improvement this camp (of course Gru was constantly saying that too — but we ALL know what his word with worth! LOL) UNTIL Huey himself blew the whistle on his whole Griffin-is-our-starter charade, that is.

          Only THEN did I start to notice that one of those same bloggers (not on the CSN blogs — moreso on the one with 4-letter name) start to back-peddle on his previously profusive praise (say that 5 times fast) of Griffin; i.e., “Weelllll, ya got me all wrong … I really didn’t like him THAT much” or “When I finally got a chance to study the films I could see he was lacking”. A lotta toeing the “new” Gruden line from that point on. Haha.

          How much, or even “if”, Griffin improved in Huey’s system is something I guess we will NEVER know Ren, cuz if Cuz (?!!) is ever benched its pretty obvious Colt is the next man up — and if Colt gets injured, like he did last season, I think Huey bites the bullet and goes right back to Cousins. Imho, there’s no way RG is stepping onto the field — unless he’s the only man standing.

          Finding out what kind of QB RG3 has or hasn’t evolved into will have to wait for another season, with another team.

        • renhoekk2 - Sep 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM

          It might have been the same verbiage but it was not the same concepts. 2012 it was a one read passing scheme. He only had one read to make, one read. It’s not the same and Robert is not some QB god that can thrive in any offense. That’s crazy. He had two years in 2013 and 2014 to thrive in a WC offense. He didn’t do it. I like Robert but not in the WC offense. If you want to believe otherwise go right ahead. The results speak for themselves. I’m not going to try and change anyone’s mind.

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 3:15 PM

          It take college spread a a at least 3 years to get the west coast offense down.

          Gruden just didn’t like Robert as judging by the press conference he loves Kirk, even when Kirk makes mistakes and the team doesn’t put up points, he still will find a reason to like Kirk and blame his mistake on something else.

        • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 4:33 PM

          So it’s not just me who gets that vibe, ab?

  9. timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    We should do better than last year. We have a better Defense, a better Oline, and according to the Coach and some fans a better QB starting. So we will see

  10. renhoekk2 - Sep 16, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    It seems the league did the Skins a solid by spreading the Breeland and Culliver suspensions over two weeks, instead of doing them both the same week. It seemed odd at first why they would wait until the second week of the season to suspend a guy for something that happened back in March. The league had to know before this week that they would be taking action. Not saying the Skins knew, maybe they did, not sure how much notice the teams get.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:01 AM

      No it actually hurt our team because they all havent been on the field at the same time together and it mess up the chemistry and communication…I think the league want this team to fail because they dont want the redskins to be a top 5 team in the NFL its more better for the league when we at the bottom because of the drama …just think about it look at what adam pac man jones did to amari cooper he took his helmet off and slam amari cooper head into it but adam pacman jones dont get suspended…look at what suh did to alfred Morris he kicked alfred morris helmet off and he dont get fine or suspended…the league have it in for the redskins and I believe the league told the refs play the I didnt see it game against redskins because they miss some big flags against the rams in the second half but they choose not to call it

      • mr.moneylover - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:03 AM

        I ment dolphins

      • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:31 AM

        The refs were having a bad day early against both teams and then it changed when they called the defensive holding on the Dolphins second sack when the protection didn’t account for CAMERON WAKE. How do you not account for him? Then it seemed the refs thought they had to atone for taking the sack away that they called three penalties on the ‘skins to get them out of field goal range and didn’t stop there calling four penalties on the Redskins next series where we punted the TD. Completely one sided. I’m not sure about the league but I never want to see the group of refs again. Once the Dolphins got the lead, the flags disappeared. Not one more penalty called the rest of the game. Coincidence?

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:30 AM

          I thought the same thing. The Dolphins – particularly Suh – should have gotten two personal foul calls and been kicked out of the game for 1.

          You also can’t tell me that the Dolphins never held on any of their plays in the second half. I certainly think we got a raw deal from the refs in the second half.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:47 AM

          I totally want to go Texas high school on them. I hope to never see them again but suspect that they are one of the worst crews in the league who therefore have to take assignments to the least important – to the league – games.

    • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM

      Or they screwed them as neither should have been suspended in the first place.

      I will share my bias so you where I’m coming from. I believe if they’re not in jail (or if the judge doesn’t grant work release) let them play. Social issues need to be addressed in our personal lives, not through our entertainment.

      Also, the league office being a puppet of Mara and his organized crime influence are the only conspiracies to which I subscribe. #MaraistheCriminal

  11. mauriceatwood - Sep 16, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    This coaching staff will not inspire this team to perform at a higher level of intensity. Furthermore, If this game is a blowout like last year the Redskins may not win 2 games the entire season. This is an absolute must win with the divisional games on the horizon and the road games following.

    • berniebernard666 - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:11 AM

      it may well be a blowout at the rate the Redskins are getting injured. Perhaps they need a strength and conditioning coach who believes in serious weight lifting and hard running and leave the rubber band stretching classes to the yoga girls.

      • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:44 AM

        No kind of weight training is going to keep a player from breaking a bone or tearing ligaments.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:06 PM

          Got Milk?

        • abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:23 PM

          Yeah, even milk won’t stop a bone from breaking or a ligament from tearing…

      • ET - Sep 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM

        Is this a serious recommendation or are you trolling? I can’t tell.

  12. berniebernard666 - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    why are the Redskins problems so easy to figure out for me and so difficult for a full time coaching staff???

    Andre Roberts is a drive killer with his dropped passes. Led the league in drops last season and now leads the league again, and yet he continues to stay on the roster. I;m sorry the explanation is above my pay grade.

    Joe Barry rushes just 4 guys over and over and over while passes are completed with no pressure on the QB. I am wondering if the Redskins have heard that new NFL rules now allow more than 4 pass rushers. Seriously, its pretty easy to see why this guy presided over the worst defense in the NFL for an 0-16 Lions team.

    The kicker has no leg strength and over 45 yards is huge challenge. So Gruden continues to let him kick off and miss field goals from over 45 yards, and then after going through an entire off season and entire preseason in which the kicker looked horrible…..Gruden lets him play one single game and then and ONLY THEN comes to the conclusion that the kicker’s leg strength is not up to par???? Is Gruden slow? He appears to make bad decisions and what’s worse….he appears to process information slower than Robert Griffin.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:38 AM

      The defense played well last week with many short yardage stops. You’re like the first one to complain about them aside from the dropped interceptions. We don’t even have the projected outside starting DBs on the field yet and you want to strand that secondary’s coverage?

      I don’t think you figured anything out about the teams defensive problems: This is what you get when you blitz.
      “Rams quarterback Nick Foles was blitzed eight times by Seattle. He completed 5 of 6 passes with a touchdown and a 151.8 passer rating.”

      “Last season when they sent an extra rusher at least 10 times in each of the first nine games. Not that the extra rushers helped: Opposing quarterbacks posted a 106.1 rating. San Diego, where Barry coached linebackers the past four years, blitzed 33 fewer times than Washington in 2014.”

      It’s not about sacks as much as QB pressures. The defense looked much improved from last season.

    • colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:12 AM

      Amen brother…

    • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM

      “why are the Redskins problems so easy to figure out for me and so difficult for a full time coaching staff?”

      Because you don’t know as much as you think you do.

    • ET - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:29 PM

      “Seriously, its pretty easy to see why this guy presided over the worst defense in the NFL for an 0-16 Lions team.”

      C’mon, this defense is WAY better than last year’s unit, let alone the 0-16 Lions. Perhaps we’ll see more blitz packages in upcoming games—our sample size is currently one game, so who knows? (Barry knows.) There are enough problem areas to speculate about without harping on possible maybe kinda issues.

  13. bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    This game is the absolute opposite of a must win game! I get the panic and the wringing of hands if the home team loses two home games to start the season but let’s not jump the gun. The Rams game is NOT a division match and NOT a common opponent. Worst case scenario: Rams roll to victory and the Cowboys beat the Eagles. Dallass (suggested new spelling) begins the year 2-0 with two division victories and the Redskins are in a two game hole with simply one loss to a common opponent. Plenty of time to right the ship. “Playoffs??!!” You squawk. Look, if you don’t care about making the playoffs or don’t have enough vision for playoffs, that’s fine but I consider it a possibility every year until it isn’t. And if you aren’t like me then don’t get your panties in a wad if a rebuilding team starts off 0-2 then. I don’t think there is fan here who wouldn’t welcome an 0-5 start ending with an 8-8 season because we know the expectations for this team. We get 16 games a year to support this team, let’s enjoy what part we can.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM

      It’s one game at a time for me. I can’t have a season outlook for this team since I don’t think we know how the sum of parts are going to workout just yet.

      • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:54 AM

        We can only take them one game at a time. But in a rebuilding year, you have to watch the construction. You don’t have to like it but no one should expect a finished building two games into the season. Despite the obvious fact that we are rebuilding, we still have a chance for the postseason and if the Eagles win on Sunday, then the worst case would be one game back with 14 games left. No matter Sunday’s results, the Redskins still control their ‘destiny.’

        • colorofmyskinz - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM

          We have been in a rebuilding year since SNYDER purchased. At what point are we just seeing what we have?

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:44 AM

          No. Since Snyder we were in a win-it-now even though we should have been in a rebuilding year. If you keep changing the architect you’re still rebuilding. In 2011 with Shanahan the team finally admitted to rebuilding. After 2010 in which wholesale changes were made including getting McNabb so that rebuilding wouldn’t have to happen. Then 2014, Allen hires Gruden with the idea that a healthy RG3 and a QB guru can prevent having to rebuild. Now 2015, McCloughan is rebuilding and each change requires tearing down the remnants of what was built. From Shanahan we’ve got Trent Williams and Ryan Kerrigan. The GM is checking to see if Morris and Griffin or Cousins are worth keeping around. So maybe we have two to four building blocks leftover – everything else is serviceable for the time being or needs to be replaced. Let’s see what sticks from McC’s rebuild.

          There are basically three possible scenarios moving forward none of which considers this team a finished product ready to compete.

          So if everything implodes this year including the General Mangager’s personal life, then its start over. If there is no improvement and the GM keeps it together, it’s on to a new coaching hire but at least we have a guy who knows what kind of coach he’d need for the pieces he’s put together. If there is an obvious improvement (6-10 to 8-8) with a competitive team that loses by one score, then you continue with what you have adding to the foundation.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 11:37 AM

          If we are in playoff contention by week 10 then I’ll start thinking realistically about playoffs chances this year. As you stated about watching the construction; that’s what I’m looking at more closely from this team (those games within the game). What is improving about this team that can be carried over into next season. If the young right side continues to hold up and play well; the running game continues to be a positive feature of the offense with Morris, Jones, and Thompson; and/or the defense line continues it’s stout ways with the running game while limiting losing the games on the coverage side. This is the only way I can maintain my sanity about this team right now.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:01 PM

          I think that is the only way to lose your sanity. There are going to be ebbs and flows in each units production depending on a multitude of factors including but not limited to: injury and opposition. The team as whole needs to find victory – especially within the division and against teams with a similar background (Tampa, St. Louis, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.) Despite the talent gap between the Redskins and the Rams, the Rams have had very little success. Let’s not give them too much credit.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:17 PM

          I’m not giving the Rams any credit. I’m basically stating that I prefer to see where strides are being made within. As for ebbs and flows that much I expect. Schreff/Moses won’t stay perfect in the sack category, the running game won’t produce 160 yards every game, and the defense won’t hold every offense under 14 points. However, this team is going through development, as you stated, so the things I look for are what will the team have to build off for next season. It’s not about any one game either. If the team implodes in every aspect of the game on a consistent basis then it’s time to go insane about them. it would be a bonus IMO if the team is in playoff contention after 10 games. I don’t want to just sit around and contemplate playoff possibilities 2 to 5 games into the season. I want to see where the team is improving and showing promise in the future.

        • bangkokben - Sep 16, 2015 at 12:23 PM

          Concur. For me, it takes away the urgency to need to see that immediate improvement if the rest of the division is losing keeping us in the race. It would be wonderful if it takes ten to twelve weeks for this team to be competitive AND then have something more to play for than just pride. I not expecting either to be the case but I’m hoping for it.

  14. berniebernard666 - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    everybody just go ahead and admit it. Get it out there. You are embarrassed to be a Washington Redskins fan. You are totally embarrassed by the circus, the sloppy play on the field, the poor decisions, the wimpy head coach, the excuses that go on week after week, the predictable outcome week after week.

    It’s an embarrassment to me and I am not afraid to admit it. My highest point of the year is April because at least the Redskins will be drafting in the top 5 again and Scott M seems to “get it”. After a couple of poor seasons and high draft picks and a new coach, and after Tony Romo retires, the Skins may be competitive in the NFL EAST by 2018. I just need to hold out that long without going insane from frustration and pain.

    • rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:23 PM

      The only thing I’m embarrassed about are the empty seats and the visiting fans.

      I don’t even care about the lack of football knowledge on this board. Fantasy football and highlight culture has destroyed 99% of fans understanding everywhere, not just here.

      • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM

        “I don’t even care about the lack of football knowledge on this board”

        Ouch! Of course you know saying things like THAT totally diminishes any credibility you may ever have accrued here. (But we’re dumb, so wahtta you care, doctor?!)

    • brucefan1 - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:52 PM

      Not so necessarily, bernie (even tho we engage in a lotta gallows humor about it here! Hehe)

      I don’t think I’m unique in flaunting in my Redskins fandom — even way up here in CT, despite that sporting B&G is the exception, not the rule, like in the DMV.

      Heck, I was up on the Cape last week rockin’ a Skins’ tee and got a lot of positive interest from fellow NFL fans! (One guy said he hopes they NEVER change the name, which I actually hear a lot! Gotta admit the name controversy is the only thing that makes me a little sheepish — but I got my rationale all lined up for any “offended” parties!)

      A while I and many like me are proud to display our allegiance, I know for fact not EVERYBODY is; I ran into a guy stocking shelves up here recently who was amazed that I was wearing my colors. He said that he WAS too ashamed to be seen in his Redskins gear when out and about.

      I just repeated what a wise man once told me in a similar situation, “YOU CAN’T BE AFRAID TO REPRESENT!” LOL

  15. sidepull - Sep 16, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    The key to the Redskins winning this game is simple. Redskins, dont beat yourselves. They had Miami backpedaling, then they flipped a switch and beat themselves nicely. They could have really been up on Miami nicely. Rams beat the Hawks. Don’t mean nothing to me. Rams haven’t won any division titles lately that i remember. Jeff Fischer overrated. Was in Tennessee too. The guy that worries me is Greg Williams. You know he go some secret bounty going on. Rams can have a bad day, Redskins can have a good one. Happens all the time.
    Staying optimistic. I like the fact we have both corners done with suspensions heading into NY on a short week. I am optimistic abut that game too because that is a wnnable game. Go Skins and don’t beat yourselves. I can handle seeing them get a good whupping but not when they whup themselves. The you gota listen to loudmouths like the reporter, Omar, from Miami who thought Miami was going to cakewalk here until Alf gave em a wake up call.

  16. abanig - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    I have to lol @ the Chester comment. He looked pretty damn good for the Falcons Monday night.

    Perhaps, it was more the qb holding onto the ball too long than the play of the OL?

  17. rtcwon - Sep 16, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Rich said it himself, the NFL is week to week. So win or loss this week, I still expect them to beat NYG and Philly. So I don’t understand this 0-4 or 0-6 talk.

    I also don’t understand “rebuilding.” My only guess is some people need to believe in that concept to feel better about failure. I embrace failure, it makes success more rewarding.

    Nor do I understand Foles v Cousins. QBs play defenses, not each other. I get that QB rivalries are great topics for fodder and I hope to some day see Cousins v anybody up there with Brady v Manning or Rodgers v Romo but lets earn that.

  18. mauriceatwood - Sep 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    I agree that the NFL is week to week and that each team can beat the other on any given Sunday (or Monday and Thursday), but if you look at the Redskins schedule based on the first week of competition there are some pretty daunting days ahead of us if this team can’t find a way to score and play better on special teams. All three divisional teams looked solid last Sunday. So did Atlanta, Buffalo, New England, NY Jets, and Carolina. The Saints and Bears played tough as well in losing efforts. The only team that I think the Redskins are favored over that is on their schedule is Tampa Bay and they crushed us last year in DC.

    Some of you just aren’t getting the urgency to this situation. If this team starts off 0-4 it will be devastated emotionally speaking and would have very little inspiration to play for and would have an almost nonexistent level of confidence. Nor does this team have the coaching staff that can unite and uplift the team.

    Getting a win against the Rams would be a tremendous boost for the team and would make the quick preparation for the Giants game more enticing rather than face the prospect of going into NY and coming out 0-3. Archives

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