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Need to Know: Interceptions could derail Cousins’ comeback attempt

Sep 11, 2015, 5:03 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Friday, September 11, two days before the Washington Redskins open their season against the Miami Dolphins.

Can Cousins cut down on his interceptions?

Yesterday in this space I took a look at a positive aspect of Kirk Cousins’ play in 2014, his exceptionally low sack rate. But there is another,  side to that coin, one that could stop his second opportunity to gain a foothold as a starting quarterback in a hurry. The knock on that was that he all too often threw an interception when he should have taken a sack.

I asked Jay Gruden about Cousins’ knack for avoiding sacks and he brought up the interception issue.

“Sometimes unfortunately he threw some interceptions because he was trying to get the ball out so quick,” said Gruden. “He wasn’t exactly seeing where he was throwing sometimes which caused him problems. Sometimes a sack is better than a pick. I think his pocket awareness is good. We’ve just got to make sure he sees all his throws and protects the football.”

Cousins attempted 204 passes and threw nine interceptions, a 4.4 percent interception rate. Robert Griffin III was intercepted on 2.8 percent of his passes (6/214) and Colt McCoy’s interception rate was 2.3 percent (3/128).

In the NFL last year 2.5 percent of passes were intercepted. Had Cousins thrown enough passes to qualify he would have had the worst interception rate in the league, worse than rookie Blake Bortles, journeyman Josh McCown, Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith. If you project his interceptions out over a 16 game seasons he would have had 29 interceptions. No quarterback threw more than 17 last year.

Cousins is well aware that he needs to cut down on his interceptions if he is going to remain a starter in this league. For that matter, if he can’t protect the ball he will have a hard time even finding work as a backup. The last thing that teams want from a quarterback they might need to put into a game in a pinch is for him to turn the ball over.

Rest assured, Cousins will not throw 29 interceptions this year. If he is on pace to do so after several games he will no longer be behind center.


Today’s schedule: Practice 11:15; Jay Gruden news conference and player availability after practice (approx. 12:30)

—It’s been 257 days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 2 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

Days until: Rams @ Redskins 9; Redskins @ Giants Thursday night 13; Eagles @ Redskins 23

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Sep 11, 2015 at 5:25 AM

    Rich, how many interceptions did he throw in the second half when we were down by 14 points or more??

    The tam was looking at a disaster season and most every game he threw the high risk INTs were when we literally had no chance of winning by that point

    I am not sure we can truly count all of his INTs. Many were hailmarys when the season was lost and the game was already lost. Why not just let the hailmary fly when there is nothing to lose.

    I put many of those INTs on the special teams ball position and the points allowed by our horrific defense at the time. We literally had the worst defensive front line in the NFL, and potentially had a Dline that could not even compete in college.

    It would have been totally different if we’re still in the game. Junk stats in my opinion. Similar to the junk stats of our RBs running on 3rd and 25 and taking a 21 yard gain.

    I call less than 17 INTs for KIRK over 16 games.

    • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 7:39 AM

      I agree, less than 17 ints for Kirk this season and I’ll say 25 or more TDs.

      I believe he threw 3 ints in the second half when the skins were down by double digits vs the Giants. 2 when they were down double digits vs the Cardinals and 1 against the Eagles in the second half.

      That’s 6 of his 10 ints in the second half while he was forcing things trying to bring the team back from being down by at least a touchdown.

      He had ZERO INTERCEPTIONS against the best defense in the NFL – Seattle. He had zero ints against Jacksonville. He had only 1 int in both the Tenn first half and the entire Phila game.

      8 of Cousins’ turnovers came in just two games! I chalk that up to just two bad games! I wish he had been able to move past those bad performances in just two fourth quarters last year, if he had we may be talking about his chance this year to solidify himself as the Redskins franchise qb.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:11 AM

        If Cousins saw his issue with interceptions like some of you apologists do then he’d never get them corrected.

        “I believe he threw 3 ints in the second half when the skins were down by double digits vs the Giants. 2 when they were down double digits vs the Cardinals and 1 against the Eagles in the second half.”

        So what is this excuse supposed to suggest? The fact is if you are down, you want a quarterback to bring you back into a game and not seal a teams losing fate.

        A quarterback that is only capable of avoiding interceptions when the game is even or his team is ahead is not a good quarterback. That is plain and simple! Cousins and the coach recognize this and you fans should as well.

        • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM

          … “you fans” …

          Are you a Redskins fan as well, or just a knee-jerk Cousins hater?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM

          You’re apparently pretty ignorant since I have provided numerous statements supporting Cousins. Instead of directing your ignorance towards me stick to the subject and ask how can these responses not be overreaching excuses due to bias feelings? My comments have been balanced for both RG3 and Cousins. Anytime I defend one or point out obvious flaws, I’m mislabeled with baseless comments just like the one you provided.

        • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM

          That wasn’t a comment, it was a question—based on the words you wrote in the comment above. So, by definition: not baseless.

      • bangkokben - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:42 AM

        Whoa on the Cardinals.

        Here is the scenario:
        Cardinals 23 Redskins 20 4th qtr 0:29 seconds to go. 1st and 10 on own 16 yard line.

        Twenty-nine seconds to go 50 yards and lead a game tying drive. What happens? First play, an interception that is returned for the clinching TD. This was directly after a wonderful four play 64-yard drive that lasted 1 minute and 26 seconds.

        You can watch the video and it is not pretty.

        The ball is intended for Garcon but is intercepted nearly ten yards in front of him. The DB is on an island – not the cover-by-yourself type island normally used for DBs but the deserted Giligan’s Isle type island where you need the professor to hatch some plan to reach civilization. In other words, the DB looks like the intended receiver. Maybe Garcon runs the wrong route but it is a bad decision and a bad throw.

        The first INT was just before the great drive, down by ten. Both are fourth quarter interceptions.

        IF the point is that Cousins being a relatively young QB with minimal NFL experience was asked (expected) to do too much considering his experience and that mistakes including interceptions are to be expected – once again considering his lack of NFL experience – then I’m willing to buy that to an extent. I’m willing to accept that for last year but I need to see growth this year. The Redskins are going to need a QB to bring them within a score or two this season and we need to see the Cousins that threw an interception and then comes right back and leads a TD drive; not the Cousins that seals the game with a pick six and then comes out the next week with his Captain Checkdown imitation.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:15 PM

          “IF the point is that Cousins being a relatively young QB with minimal NFL experience was asked (expected) to do too much considering his experience and that mistakes including interceptions …”

          This statement is so dead on in it’s entirety. I completely agree that Cousins needs a chance to see if he can overcome his major flaws. The idea of going back to last season and justifying interceptions because the team was down a few touchdowns is “little boy” talk.

          I made a similar statement about how Cousins needs to convert those past interceptions into positive drives. I may be behave like a jackass at times towards comments I found outrageous, but I also give credit where I feel credit is due. Bang, you are dead on far more than you are off. You provide some of the best reads on this site.

        • bangkokben - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:32 PM

          Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully we’ll have something to cheer about come Monday.

    • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:06 AM

      There’s still lots of debate about how much game context truly matters in the predictive use of NFL stats, but to the topic of this post, anyone who uses the analytics knows that most of Cousins’s plays were not low-leverage plays. Cousins definitely swung the games he played in both with good plays (TDs) and bad plays (INTs).

      Cousins’s Win Probability Added in 2014 (which takes the context of the game into account) ranked 26th in the league out of 40 qualifying QBs.

      • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM

        Win Probability Added is a really interesting stat, though I don’t know how much stock I put in it other than as a reference point.

        One thing that jumped out at me is Griffin had a negative WPA for 2014. He ranked 38th out of 40, ahead of only Whitehurst and Lindley. Griffin’s WPA was positive in 2013 (27th of 40), and very good in 2012 (12th of 40), though not as high as I expected.

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM

          It’s not a mere reference point; it helps to answer the question that posters are asking here: Are Cousins’s INTs taking place when the game “matters”? If Cousins was throwing “meaningless” INTs but making lots of positive plays when the game “matters”, then he would rank a lot higher on the list.

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM

          I’m referencing Cousins’s WPA/G btw, just to be fair to him since Cousins didn’t play as many games as the other QBs. Cousins ranks 21st in the stat out of 40 QBs.

        • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:53 PM

          Yeah, I understand your point and why WPA might be more helpful than other stats in this instance. I guess my point is in the Big Picture, it’s an interesting but sometimes misleading stat.

          For example, despite Robert’s horrible WPA for 2014, I don’t believe I’d rather have had Jake Locker, Kyle Orton, or Geno Smith at QB. Yet all of those palookas ranked higher than Robert in that metric last year. And Mark Frakkin’ Sanchez ranked 18th of 40 for 2014, eight above Cousins and 20 above Griffin. Just sayin’.

        • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:56 PM

          * I was looking at a slightly different calculation of WPA, I guess, but my overall point about it remains the same.

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:11 PM

          The other issue, of course, is the fact that there’s no credible sample size with Cousins.

          If any stat is relevant here, it’s 9: the number of starts Cousins has had over his first three seasons. There aren’t a bunch of 4th-round or later picks who became solid NFL starters with that few (or fewer) starts, regardless of performance in those starts.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:24 PM

          Hmm… Several Redskins come to mind…

          Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Stan Humphries, Gue Ferotte and especially Trent Green

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM

          No, abanig. Most of those QBs had at least twice as many starts as Cousins during their first three seasons in the league.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 2:02 PM

          That’s not really a fair statement. The only qb drafted in the same year the skins took a top 5 pick at qb – and one who was a star right away was Cousins!

          It’s not Cousins’ fault Shanahan traded up for and drafted Griffin 2nd overall and then drafted Cousins two picks later.

          Cousins can only controls what’s infront of him, not what’s behind him and he can’t control the situation the Shanahan’s out him in in 2012.

          Rypien “25 games” not starts in his first 3 years, zero in his first.

          Joe Theisman was stuck behind Billy & Sonny, he didn’t start.

          Stan Humphries 5 starts in his first 3 years.

          Ferotte really didn’t start until his third year after Norv & Charley had given up on Heath Shuler because he and RG3 were like twins in the pocket!

          Trent Green 19 starts in his first 3 years in the nfl.

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 2:43 PM

          Ah. You’re right about Rypien. But it isn’t important. This is what I said a couple of posts ago: “There aren’t a bunch of 4th-round or later picks who became solid NFL starters with that 9 (or fewer) starts, regardless of performance in those starts.”

          That means, from your list, Joe Theismann, Mark Rypien, and Stan Humphries qualify. Here all all the other QBs who also qualify, at least those who were on the active rosters for their teams:

          I’ll even narrow the list to those QBs who played at least replacement-level:

          Look at the QBs on those lists. Have I made my point clear yet, or are you going to keep cherry-picking QBs?

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 3:28 PM

          Well all in saying is that it’s possible, and several Skins QBs have acplished the task over the past 35 years. I’m actually glad Cousins is getting the opportunity, he’s a great guy, seems like a good leader. He’s smart, a hard worker and deserves his shot.

          I am a huge Griffin supporter but it really appeared he wasn’t improving.

        • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 4:40 PM

          It’s kinda hard to look like you’re doing anything when you’re not even playing in any regular season games.

    • weneedlinemen42 - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:06 AM

      Take a look at the Jags game from last year. No, interceptions whilst playing with a lead.

      But, and here is the problem with Cousins, two passes get away from him and just go flying off deep into the Jags secondary.

      One hits a Jags DB in the hands, but is dropped. The other, through pure luck, falls no where near a receiver or defender.

      These weren’t balls he had thrown away. They just sailed out into the secondary. He has thrown a couple of those wild balls in just about every game he has played for us.

      Against the Jags, they just weren’t caught. In other games they have been.

      I’ve never seen another QB like it. Most of the time Cousins has fantastic control. He’ll throw 30 perfect passes but a couple of times per game, he will just launch the ball into the secondary.

      • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:18 AM

        Rex Grossman

        • weneedlinemen42 - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:53 AM

          Grossman didn’t really throw errant balls, he had three consistant weaknesses.

          1) He didn’t have the height to see over the middle and would throw interceptions because he had lost track of defenders behind the LoS.

          2) He had small hands that made him slightly more likely to fumble.

          3) Most critically, he lacked arm strength, but would still try to make throws that required a lot more zip than he had.

          A lot of his downfield interceptions came because the ball simply spent so much time in the air that defenders were able to congregate under the ball. He was also a liability on sideline throws because his passes spent so long in flight.

          Nearly all of his passes (outside of those where he was unsighted) were going to an initially open receiver but just took far too long to arrive.

          Cousins is different, it’s like they come out of his hand wrong every so often. It’s not bad decision making, the ball just seems to head off in a direction that just doesn’t make sense as anything other than quirk in his throwing mechanics.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:02 AM

          Yes Grossman did, watch the 2006 Super Bowl when the Bears were getting beat by the Colts

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:05 AM

          I recall Rex being a competent QB between the 20 yard lines. But once he was behind or ahead of the 20 yard line he was a horrible QB. I think the red zone mishaps did in Rex.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 12, 2015 at 12:55 AM

          What always gets me about Grossman is everyone credits him for the Bears Super bowl run when it was Actually Devin Hester that got that team to the Super Bowl

        • weneedlinemen42 - Sep 12, 2015 at 9:38 AM


          He struggled in the redzone because a lot of the time passes need that extra zip to fit into a tight window. The lack of depth to work with also necessitates the use of more sideline passes. That’s where his lack of arm strength really started to bite.

          Outside of the Redzone his touch was good enough to keep the chains moving.

          As for struggling whilst down; again, I think it was down to his lack of arm strength. He was a liability on deep passes because they spent so long in the air; so he struggled whenever they needed to make big gains. Also it was just a case of being a bad QB. They always get exposed when they go behind because they have to take on more of the work and their failings can’t be hidden behind a strong running game.

          Grossman got criticism for being erratic but, to me, his career was defined by his consistency. He had a number of strengths, including great touch, but a number of failings that stuck with him throughout his career.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 12, 2015 at 12:53 AM

        See that’s what I’ve bin saying about Cousins he has had a vouch of passes bounce off defenders hands. When I say it people act like I’m just making stuff up. Watch any game he has played in.

  2. troylok - Sep 11, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    I think it was more than Kirk not fully seeing the coverage when he threw those interceptions. What I saw in the Giants game was the Giants were bringing pressure up the middle and Cousins stopped stepping into his passes. His passes had a tendency to float and they were easy pickings. I have a feeling that Callahan will fix the collapsing pocket issue. Cousins has to understand that if he is going to take the hit anyway, he has to follow through. Something also to consider is that for some reason the underneath passes were not being called in that Giants game. That would have given Cousins a wee bit more time. So, ultimately, some of the blame for those interceptions have to fall on coaching. I understand Gruden wanting to stretch the field with a deep threat like Desean Jackson, but it can’t be forced.

  3. abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM

    Cousins threw interceptions because he felt pressured while starting, he was forcing things because the running game was inconsistent or ineffective in the games where he threw a lot of ints and he always felt he had to play at a pro bowl level to keep the job over Griffin who it seemed like most in the organization wanted to start over him.

    This year will be different because the running game will hopefully be better and more consistent and Cousins has been told it’s his team for this season. Since that is the case, I don’t believe he’ll take as many unnecessary chances to bring the team back in one play should they be down by a TD in the 4th quarter.

    Since Cousins has more support from the HC and the organization, he should play better more consistent last year and have less turnovers.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:40 AM


      RG3 allowed sacks because he felt pressured while starting, he was forcing waiting for the plays to develop because the running game was inconsistent or ineffective in the games where he took a lot of sacks and he always felt he had to play at a pro bowl level to keep the job over Cousins who it seemed like most in the organization wanted to start over him.

      It’s a lame excuse no matter how you twist it.

    • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM

      It seems Gruden is now aware that the run / pass ratio was out of whack last year. We’ll see if he can stick to it.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:19 PM

        Too bad it took Gruden 4 years as an OC and one as a head coach to see that.

        • ET - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:49 PM

          Better late than never???

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 2:42 PM

          “Better late than never???”

          Yet a talented ROY QB who provided us one of the most remarkable seasons in history is deemed garbage by fans after two challenging seasons.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 2:48 PM

          No one can fix Griffin right now. Shanahan tried after Griffin’s knee injury in 2013, Gruden has tried over the last year and a half and Gruden developed Andy Dalton into an above average qb.

          I loved Griffin when he first came to DC and was successful as did everyone but his success went to his head. He thought he Cousi do no wrong, was invincible and didn’t take well to being coached into a pocket passing qb. That much has been evident in the past two and a half years.

          If you can’t realize that then you’re totally blind to the situation and totally in denial about how far Griffin has fallen since 2012.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 4:16 PM

          I’m not the one blind when I include all factors that have impacted his development. You cherry pick your variation of the outcome and assume that as fact. I love how guys like you think you can get into RG3’s head and know exactly how he is thinking. So you say Griffin got cocky? Who’s to say instead he wasn’t just trying his best to stay on the field and produce for his team? Did he get reckless with his health? Yes and he should have been upfront about his injury in the Seattle game. That one decisions against Seattle is the biggest factor as to why he hasn’t developed as quickly as he’d like to this day. This is an injury that normally takes two years for a full recovery. He also should not have been starting the following season with a bulky brace. However, those are not RG3’s choosing. Ultimately that comes down to the coaches. I’m not the only one who thinks the injury is the biggest reason for his development delays and I can include Bill Polian on that list. You try and find any so call pundit that thinks RG3 can’t be fixed who matches Bill’s knowledge on talent.

          Griffin can’t be fixed by anyone? Says who? You?

          A contrary and less radical scenario is that RG3 is playing under a coach that provides a west coast scheme that doesn’t fit his skill set. I don’t buy into that credit Gruden gets about developing Dalton. It also looks like most local media and fans in Cincinnati didn’t miss Gruden either…

          RG3’s durability is certainly a risk where ever he goes but smarter football folks out there would take him in a New York minute and possible disprove your shallow declaration that RG3 can’t be fixed.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 4:23 PM

          I agree that Griffin’s injuries have hampered his development, I agree that Shanahan is mostly responsible for not developing Griffin in his rookie year as a pocket passer and he’s responsible for Griffin tearing his knee up against Seattle because a coach who cared about his players health would have sat him down.

        • warpath1 - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:04 PM

          A lot of assuming in that thread. Sounds a lot to do about nothing. Can’t wait for the opener…..go Redskins!!! Who’s got time to read and comment on this BS!!! HTTR

  4. renhoekk2 - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    Things need to be put into perspective. Obviously it’s never good to throw interceptions, but to be fair to Cousins in all of his starts the defense let the opposition put two to three TD’s on the board by halftime. I’m sure a lot of those picks resulted from trying too hard to make a play. The PHL game they spotted them 21pts by halftime, the NYG game it was 24pts by halftime, SEA it was 17pts and AZ it was 14pts. The team was losing at halftime of every game. 8 of his 9 interceptions came in the second half of games. It’s not like he was turning the ball over in the first half of games to put his team behind and bury them. They were already losing. He was trying to bring his team back.

    • skinsgame - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:45 AM

      This is where I hope to see improvement from coaches. No doubt the team will have games where they trail at half time but, do they improve in the 2nd half? Can the coaches find ways to make adjustments and build on 2nd half improvements for the following week? Establishing the running game in the 2nd half of a game would be a sure sign of improvement and focus and the whole team could benefit from it. Success is contagious.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:17 AM

      I think jay gruden dont know how to make adjustments I think if he did we wouldve seen it last year he made a switch player wise when ill season was already over instead of seeing the problem and making the switch during ill bye week last year…last year we had a early by week I think we had a bye-week week 4 thats when you look at your team and see what changes need to be made and he fail to do that thats why I think hes not the guy to run this team and he will be fired after this season for another terrible record

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:23 PM

        Some valid points here to recognize. How many comeback games did the team make last year?

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:21 PM

      “It’s not like he was turning the ball over in the first half of games to put his team behind and bury them.”

      Yeah but as a QB was he keeping up with the scoreboard. How many points did Cousins help produce when the team was down at halftime. That to me is keeping things in perspective.

  5. timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    I think he will have 16 Sacks and 16 interceptions…… After 8 weeks.

    He is gonna be facing some pretty tough Defensive fronts and this Oline has bin shown to have a tendency to be pushed around. The interceptions he seems to average 2 a game over time. I’m not saying he is gonna throw 2 each game buthe will have a game or 2 where he will throw 3 or more and will end up with 16 after 8 games

    • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:54 AM

      Not a chance, you refuse to see that Cousins only had two bad games last year and that he had zero turnovers against the best defense in the NFL the past two seasons.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:02 AM

        It doesn’t matter what he does in one game or against any one opponent. RG3 didn’t get any such accommodations so why should Cousins?

        What matters is what Cousins did in the collection of games he played. The end result is undeniable. Cousins struggled and was benched in favor of a journeyman QB because the coaches obviously felt they could have improved in that position. Of course I think Gruden is not a quality coach and probably should have let Cousins work out his issues. That is my opinion. However, I recall the comments screaming for Cousin’s replacement last season. I wonder how many of those commenting that tune then are now providing excuses for his issues instead of identifying the areas where he needs improvement. If after over 500 passes a QB has a interception rating worst then Ryan Leaf doesn’t raise a red flag for you then I don’t know what will. Can he overcome this issue? Possibly! However, preseasons are not the place to assume he has already corrected his issues. It’s amateur hour when fans start making that claim so early. You used to be a rational person on this board. Did you start taking Skulb’s medication?

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:07 AM

          It doesn’t matter anymore what Griffin did or did not get or the chances Griffin did or did not get!

          It doesn’t matter if those who are primarily “RG3 fans first” think he was treated wrongly.

          There was a qb competiton this offseason, it just was t announced and Kikr Cousins won it against the other two quarterbacks!

          It’s over! Kirk Cousins is the Redskins starting quarterback!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:31 AM

          Okay then instead of providing a viable response you attempt to change the subject. continue on rambling about reasons you can justified for Cousin’s interceptions. I see a new form of comic reading gelling here since RG3 is no longer the pinata.

        • Skulb - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:06 AM

          Don´t worry. You and Tim are so completely deranged I´m vacating to go to a site with higher quality comments. Then this blog will become the echo chamber for your warped little fantasies you have fought so hard to make it.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:41 PM

          You fail to consider all of the Balls Cousins threw that defenders dropped. He averages over his carrier at least 2 a game. I’m expecting defenders having less drops

        • skinsgame - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM

          Tim, care to cite the source for that stat? I’d like to see how others in the league stacked up.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM

          Skinsgame I mentioned he averages 2 interceptions a game. I forgot to put the word interceptions in. Was at work on break in a hurry sorry. I wish I did know how many bounced off of defenders hands because as I recall that #would be pretty high

  6. mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:49 AM

    Normally when a new GM come in a new head coach will be replaced that same year or a year later depending on the record and how coaches coach and how players reponds to the coach….like ryan clark said before on first take its a group of guys already in the locker room dont trust jay gruden decision making…and lets not forget this important fact all the games kirk cousins started last year alfred morris had nomore then 70 yards a game and when kirk cousins started in the Baltimore game alfred morris struggle in that game as well but the rookie matt jones came up big

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM

      I think if jay gruden is a smart head coach he will look into it and notice it and make a switch since he switch QB…Alfred morris only is good when rg3 is in the game because hes a running QB…when that bmore game I notice a big difference alfred Morris will try to force a hole to open up instead of looking for the hole…matt jones didnt try to force things to open up he use his vision while running up to the line cut to his left or right and hes gone for 20 to 30 yards…Alfred gotta do a better job of not forcing things let the hole open up for him or give himself a chance to cut back if it dont because when you cut back sometime he can gain three to five yards

    • renhoekk2 - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:14 AM

      Actually went back and checked. 17 of his 19 career INT’s came in the second half of games, that his team lost usually by 2 TDs or more. A few by much more. It’s safe to say that Cousins INTs have never cost his team a win. I think that is a VERY IMPORTANT distinction to make. It’s not like the Skins were up by 10pts in the second half and he threw 2 picks to lose the game. Never happened. His INTs didn’t help the team to come back and win, but none of them were the reason they lost either.

      • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:16 AM

        Wow! Great find! I love that stat

      • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM

        Read my post above.

        • renhoekk2 - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:28 AM

          Not sure how that win probability works? Does that work on league average? If so I would have a problem with that. The Skins defense has been dreadful for that last few years. Is that win probably with the Skins defense or the league average? Big difference.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM

        It’s a baseless distinction to make. If your team is down by two touchdowns then first how did it score get there? I guess the QB wasn’t performing well enough to keep up with the score. You then are down two touchdowns and your QB starts tossing interceptions instead of providing a comeback. Great seal the victory for the other team but it’s not your fault. Oh, but that’s what starting QBs do in NFL. When behind and in order to make a comeback for your team, sling it to anyone available that can catch the ball including the opponents! Man, This is just silly!.

    • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:15 AM

      It’s no secret that Jay Gruden doesn’t commit to the running game, even if it’s working or if Alfred had a big gain and needed more carries to get going and get in a groove. Alfred hasn’t been afforded that opportunity over the past two years with both Kyle and Jay calling the plays. Each playcaller fell too much in love with the pass.

      If you give Alf the rock, he’ll get you positive yards. That’s been proven from 2012-14 years. You must feed the beast! Both Alf & Matt need carries this year, if they get a heavy dose of touches, it’s going to be hard to beat the Redskins ball control offense.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:25 AM

      I know people still in love with what alfred morris did in 2012 but he havent been right ever since…but he fallen off his game as well if he did good things the pass two three seasons scot m. Wouldve gave him a big contact like trent Williams and Ryan Kerrigan….people having a hard time to believe hes been struggling but the tape dont lie stats do

  7. redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    The real Cousins will come out in regular season. I’m not sure if the version of Cousins in preseason will be the same one on the field in the regular season. When exhibition games are played under a base scheme with a mix of starters, backup, and future wavier wires; many times the major flaws in promising starters do not materialize. Every year you can go back and select dozens of players that shine before the real games start only to end up with a dud when the wins count.

    Cousins has a young right side of the line to worry about as each matures into their positions, an offense line in general working out a new blocking scheme, a tight end group lacking any notable quality blockers, two running backs that didn’t start last year as the last line of defense in blitz packages. So he’ll have his hands full avoiding pressure. Cousins has never shown an issue avoiding sacks but he has in avoiding interceptions. This is true no matter how others here hopelessly try to fudge statistics or want to provide some baseless excuse.

    If interceptions continue to rise; I do feel Cousins needs time to allow the line and other players around him to develop before the coaches bail on him. This organization has already poorly developed, managed, and tossed aside the most talented QB they’ve had probably since Sonny Jurgensen. I hope they don’t continue to repeat this with Cousins who is more comfortable playing a west coast offense, is in his peak years, and has been a stand up guy since he arrived.

    • hail74 - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:57 AM

      I agree with preseason vs reg season, but IMO Cousins looked better against his collection of starters and backups so I would like to see if he has progressed. For me the Ints aren’t even the biggest problem he has but his demeanor after words. He used to just put his head down and sulk but he didn’t in the Baltimore game. while the organization has done many things wrong in the development of Griffin, Robert is just as much at fault.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:08 AM

        RG3 certainly has his faults I don’t deny that at all. However, as a young man in a very challenging position, you need competent sound people around you. The organization invested a lot in this kid but failed to manage that investment to maximize the reward. This is just further explanation as to why we haven’t seen a consistent winning program since 1991.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:54 AM

      So basically you want us to throw another season if kirk cousins fall on his face….he put this team in the hole record wise last year jay gruden cant afford the same results he must show improvement he got rg3 hurt to start kirk cousins if kirk cousins fail jay gruden and kirk cousins will be gone by next year…scot m. Has a winner mindset if it get bad like last year not only jay gruden will be gone a couple players who contribute to the losing will be gone as well like if David amerson did what he did last year theres no question he will be gone next year….scot m. Want fighters on this team….jay gruden said he will be calling plays to sean mcvay last year they took turns calling plays that can be a big difference on how well this offense will look this season as well…if kirk cousins do alot of three step dropback he wont get touch cause the ball will be coming out to quick to get sack its the five step dropback that will get him sack

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 12:06 PM

        “So basically you want us to throw another season if kirk cousins fall on his face’

        If that is the way you want to word it then fine. I don’t see any promise out of this season to begin with. It needs to be treated as a season that determines unquestionably who belongs on this team. I agree Gruden’s job will be in jeopardy if Cousins fails. However, it’ll be hard to get around that 5 year guaranteed contract. I also don’t think RG3 can succeed in Gruden’s offensive scheme. I don’t the scheme and I don’t particularly like the coach. I just think the teams fate was sealed when they hired Gruden. It was another huge front office mistake.

        I want Gruden to prove me wrong and put a contender on the field. I want team to find our long term Quarterback. I just don’t see very good odds in either happening this year..

      • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM

        How’s your opinion any different than of Griffin starts and falls on his face?

        The truth is that Griffin did fall flat on his face as far as being a pocket passing qb, at least so far in his NFL career.

        Cousins is getting his shot now to make it his team. Of Cousins fails, then that just means that the Skins will be drafting C Jones, Cook, or Hackenberg in the top 10 of the 2016 NFL Draft.

  8. goback2rfk - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    He wont get better, Cousins is a INT machine. That is his fatal flaw, his Achilles heel, his system malfunction. Otherwise he would be a permanent starter in the NFL.
    I fully expect to see RG3 or McCoy come week 4.

    • mr.moneylover - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM

      Agree…you not alone on this one

  9. kenlinkins - Sep 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    IMO the good news is that we Redskins fans will not have to wait long to find out just where this team is. The Dolphin’s will put a very good pass rush on the O-Line and should be able to keep the run game in check early. If the Redskins can withstand the first wave of pressure and play good field position football for the first 15 minutes without falling behind they would have passed the first and most important test. If the Redskins can “Stand Up” those first 15 minutes without a major mistake and be within 3 points they have a very good shot of winning the game, but if Morris fumbles, Cousins has a INT, Special teams can keep things in check, and the defense doesn’t give up a big play TD, then things are on the up swing. Can this team get out of the blocks fast without falling on their face? The key is the Redskins Pass Rush, will it show up, can the defense keep the Redskins in the game early by attacking and will the Offense and Special teams not make a killer mistake before half time? IMO this could be an ugly win for the Redskins in a low scoring game. At Mich. State Cousins had a lot of ugly wins by hanging around and avoiding killer bad plays, and finding a play maker when required, it was smart but ugly football and that is what he does best, smart and ugly.

    • goback2rfk - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:08 AM

      It smart and ugly all right.

      Miami 27
      Redskins 20

  10. hk2000 - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Cousin’s problem is not interceptions, it’s the total collapse of confidence once he throws the first one, or makes the first mistake, if he overcomes that, he’ll be a great QB. I’m not holding my breath though!

    • bangkokben - Sep 11, 2015 at 11:49 AM


  11. redskinsnameisheretostay - Sep 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    Interesting tendencies about Tannehill…

    “Tannehill liked throwing left.
    According to ESPN Stats & Information, Tannehill was at his best throwing to the left side. His passer rating on throws outside the numbers to the left was 106.5, while between the left numbers and hashmark it was 105.3. He rarely threw between the hashmarks (61 times all season) and when throwing to the right, Tannehill had passer ratings of 74.4 (between the numbers and the hashmark) and 86.9 (outside the numbers). Also: 317 of his 590 pass attempts were outside the numbers. Tannehill was not great throwing downfield last season with a 53.1 passer rating on throws that traveled at least 20 yards in the air (13-for-49). Miami will use a lot of quick, rhythm throws.” — Keim

  12. goback2rfk - Sep 11, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    RG3 will be in soon enough glad he got cleared. Suh and Wake are going to destroy Cousins and the Redskins lackluster offensive line. Forget about the 7 step drops Cousins better have the ball out after 3

    • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 5:23 PM

      Griffin can’t run a pro style offense. He’s been trying for 3 years and yes, the Shanahan’s did him a disservice as a rookie because they were worried about him not being ready as a pocket passer and they needed to win to keep their jobs. They were selfish! They were also selfish when they didn’t set him down at halftime vs Seattle when it was clear he had hurt his knee worse than what it was.

      Still, that doesn’t matter now. He has not developed! He’s gotten more than enough time to develop into an nfl pocket passer and he hasn’t.

      It’s Cousins’ time, it’s his team. This is like Gus vs Heath. Heath got his shot for 3 seasons to develop into an nfl pocket passer and he couldn’t do it. So, Norv & Charley moved onto Gus Ferotte. Then Gus turned out to be just average and they went to Trent Green who was clearly better. It’s time for the Skins to find out what they have in Kirk for a whole season hair like they did with Gus in 96 & 97 and Trent in 98.

      • TheHogs - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:06 PM

        No, its *not* like Gus Ferrotte or Trent Green. Those QBs got on the field, started over twice the number of games, and proved themselves before their 4th seasons in the NFL.

        Similar QBs to Cousins in their first three seasons in the league (300-500 pass attempts, 4th round or later picks, replacement-level prouduction or better): Elvis Grbac, Brad Johnson, Ty Detmer, Paul Justin, Eric Hipple, Scott Hunter, Tyler Thigpen. The fact that there are a few number of these QBs since the merger says something; the fact that Brad Johnson is the only standout name in this group says something more.

        • abanig - Sep 11, 2015 at 8:25 PM

          Well again, that’s not Kirk’s fault. He’s been stuck behind the 2nd overall pick in the same draft for 3 years. You’re not going to start if that’s the situation you’re in.

  13. timwillhidetimwillhide - Sep 12, 2015 at 1:36 AM

    These excuses people are making that Cousins threw his picks when the game was out of reach is just false. He threw 1 interception late in a game and it wasn’t a gotta make a player moment. Most of his picks where when the game was well within reach with plenty of time.

    And people saying he only had 2 bad games lol. He had 3 definitely bad games 1ok with a 58% completion rate 1 decent and 1against the Jaguars. Pretty sad when someone has too reach so far looking for greatness that just isn’t there Archives

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