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Need to Know: Redskins stock up-stock down vs. Ravens

Aug 30, 2015, 7:17 AM EDT

Crowder-TD-vs-Ravens

Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, August 30, six days before the Washington Redskins make their final cuts.

Stock up/Stock down vs. Ravens          

We are three days away from the first round of cuts and six days away from the final cutdown. Plus there are plenty of depth chart spots to be decided. It’s getting very late and here are some Redskins who made positive and negative impressions against the Ravens.

Up—WR Jamison Crowder: He made his pro debut in style, alertly plucking a tipped ball out of the air and gliding in for a touchdown.

Down—OT Morgan Moses: A whole lot went wrong on Terrell Suggs’ interception of a Kirk Cousins bubble screen including Moses’ failure to cut Suggs so he couldn’t make the interception. Run blocking from the right side first unit was not too good.

Up—WR Rashad Ross: He had six catches for 56 yards and two touchdowns. The numbers really don’t work for him to stay on the roster but he is going to make it very difficult for the Redskins to cut him and he might be earning a job elsewhere.

Down—FS Dashon Goldson: Twice he had a bead on Ravens receiver Steve Smith and twice he was unable to make the tackle. One misplays resulted in a first down, the other in a 63-yard touchdown (David Amerson also had a shot at Smith on that one). Your last line of defense has to make those plays.

Up—OLB Jackson Jeffcoat: His roster chances were slim until Junior Galette was lost for the season last week. Jeff coat responded with an interception that set up a touchdown and a sack/strip of Matt Schaub.

Who did I miss? Let me know in the comments.

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Today’s schedule: Off day

—It’s been 245 days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 14 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

Days until: Final cuts 6; Rams @ Redskins 21; Redskins @ Giants Thursday night 25

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  1. sidepull - Aug 30, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    To me Justin Rodgers made the play of the game.

    Again, too many missed tackles. One of the big deals last year was the defenses inability get off the field on 3rd down. Missing tackles is not helping that defense do that.

  2. gonavybeatarmy - Aug 30, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    -Goldson was a trainwreck. He needs to take a primer in geometry.

    -Forbath’s kickoffs are a clear and present danger…in a bad way. He made a nice FG, but the Skins need to improve on kickoffs.

    -Jordan Reed made a couple of beautiful plays. The guy’s routes and hands are phenomenal. It was nice to see him get some fine work in and then get off the field…healthy.

    -Matt Jones, assuming he stays healthy, has the chance to be special.

    -Cousins, although far from perfect, was fairly poised in the pocket.

    • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM

      Kickers argggg!!!

      In Pittsburgh the past couple of years, he is hurt and out for the year now, Shaun Suisham…Remember?
      In Carolina there is a guy booting out of the end zone and is very reliable, Graham Gano…Remember?
      In San Diego there is a guy booming Fg’s right down the Middle, Nick Novak….Remember?
      In New Orleans there is a guy we darfted last year about to win a job… Zach Hocker….Remember?

      The point being, we are not patient enough with the ones who have great legs, and are to patient with the ones who can’t kick it 55 yards. We have to ride with Forbath this year….unless Hocker gets cut???

      • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:05 PM

        We have to ride Forbath. Periord. Full stop. I would like an upgrade, but in no way do I see Hocker as an upgrade. The only guy, I’d take over Forbath that you listed is Gano – which of course isn’t going to happen. MY preference for kicker is someone who is 85% in FGs, makes kick-offs obsolete by always kicking them out of the back of the endzone, has a good onside kick, and can be called on to kick a 60 yarder if needed.

      • aussieskinsfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:11 PM

        Maybe coaching plays a pert here to, we never developed any talent

    • Skulb - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:01 PM

      Matt Jones looks like he might be the big thing this year. His lateral movements are absolutely awesome. Like three times so far this OS I have been convinced that he had been stuffed yet somehow he sidesteps and keeps going. Very exciting to watch him so far.

  3. mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    You forgot alfred Morris he couldnt get nothing with that first unit but they gave matt jones 2 carries with the first unit and he picked up 20 yards before they took him out for the rest of the first half….I keep telling everybody alfred Morris is over rated matt jones is a beast and I think hes the best running back we have right along with trey Williams….im not to high on Chris Thompson yet…im not sold on kirk cousins yet he basically did the same thing he did last year scored once and threw INT nothing that made me say wow he should start week ……david amerson stock is wayyyyyyy down he havent learn his lesson from last year he got picked on in the lions game and got picked on again in the ravens games…dashon goldson had to try to cover up mistakes that david amerson made twice when he was covering steve smith David amerson was standing 10 yards off the ball when he shouldn’t he back up some more when the play started and steve smith raned a hook rout and david amerson didnt have a chance to tackle steve smith cause he was way off the ball…I think jackson jeffcoat should start on the other side of kerrigan and have Preston smith come in as a backup because trent Murphy aint do nothing again and I see players thats behind him showing more impressive things

    • colorofmyskinz - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:43 AM

      Matt Jones blows MORRIS out. Morris is slow motion. Matt puts the defense on edge when he walks in the field. MORRIS only works well with zone blocking and read option. Everyone will say, but he has 1500 yards per year… Many if his yards in the last 2 years were with the team down 14-21 points in the forth quarter with the defense only having 4 in the box. Hate to say it but… Junk stats for many on skins.

      • Sonny - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:35 AM

        That really makes no since…down 14-21 points in the 4th…you are no longer running the rock…don’t get me wrong I love Jones…but don’t discredit morris and the work he put in the past 3 years.

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:35 AM

      Agree…the media over hype Alfred Morris this summer right along with trent Murphy and both players to me shouldn’t start week 1.

      • wvredskins - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:50 AM

        You guys are crazy. He didnt have anywhere to run. Matt Jones got that 20 yard run on a no huddle play and caught the d off guard. Big difference. Alfred is not over rated you guys just dont know football

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 AM

      @wvredskins….no you dont know football….that game last night alfred morris was suppose to show he can run the ball it didnt matter weather he went left or right alfred Morris didnt get nothing going….matt jones first ran the ball to his right then his second carry was to left and he picked up 10 yards on both carries with the first unit Alfred Morris refuse to look for the whole to run the ball threw if he wouldnt commit so early on witch way hes running and cut back a few times to find the hole he could’ve picked up yards like matt jones did…

      • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM

        In the first quarter, the Ravens knew we would come out and try to establish the run so they played a single high safety cover 1 for almost the whole first quarter, daring us to throw it. I am not going to try to explain a cover 1 defense but I will say its basically running plays with 6 blockers against 7 defenders, the defense wins every time in the NFL. Now late in the 1st quarter and early 2nd Kirk started hitting those single coverage plays and the Ravens had to adjust, basically going to 2 high safeties and then we had 6 on 6, or 5 on 5 when we went 4 wides. Alfred was running plays that were never going to work, they were running just to be running. Jones got all the great looks and capitalized.

        Alfred is the starter, Jones will be next season. End of discussion.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM

          nice!

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:13 PM

          That’s what I saw. And oddly enough, you could see that with the cameraman zooming out at the snap of the ball early in the 1st quarter. WTF! Then the ‘Monday’ Night Football game showed large portions of the game behind the offense like it was Madden. What the hell?! This better just be pre-season experimentation. We’ve watched football the same way for the last 40-50 years and it’s always highly rated, why muck with view?

      • Johnny B. - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:45 PM

        If the o-line can’t get the first hole for the running back the play goes nowhere. Proven last night with alf. With Jones the defense was caught off guard. Watch the game not the highlights.

        • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:29 PM

          I watched the game 3 times already, on TV and twice from the coaches film. Which shows a realistic look at what QB’s and RB see.

  4. mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:01 AM

    David amerson got picked on and made dashon goldson job way much harder…perry farwell gotta tell david amerson stop standing 10 yards back on every play…even tho deangleo hall was in the game for a little bit he showed some good things they wanted david amerson to get most the reps cause he needs them

  5. Brandon Shultz - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:30 AM

    Up: Kirk Cousins. He played like an NFL quarterback. No sacks.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:45 AM

      I wonder when the line stopped being responsible for sacks.

      • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:56 PM

        Words seen at NO OTHER fan blog anywhere in the NFL; “I wonder when the line stopped being responsible for sacks” Haha

        At those other sites, their fans say “NEVER”, cuz rational folks readily acknowledge the great importance of sound pass blocking, and giving a QB more than “precisely two seconds” (I think that was the well-researched determination some poster made here) to attempt to get a pass off.

        Statements like the one above are posted only in the vast Redskin wasteland, where all accepted maxims of how to play football get turned on their heads!!

        Ya can’t make this stuff up! LOL

        • Skulb - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:06 PM

          You need remedial English classes man. You seriously do. Any complex language function goes right over your head.

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:04 PM

          Haha! “Complex”?!

          Dude asked a simple question, and I replied to it!

          Nothing “complex” about that.

      • Johnny B. - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:49 PM

        When the qb caused them

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:13 PM

          Yeah … and who or what caused any sack is always so black & white to you — you big “expert” you?!

          NO subtleties involved…NO gray areas.

          Real simple, right? You see it all so easily … it’s gotta be GRIFFIN’S fault.

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:42 AM

      When you put a 3 time pro bowl LT and your team captain on the field instead of a undrafted player like willie smith who didnt even play last night and most likely wont make the team of course there wont be no sacks the chargers aint cut willie smith for nothing hes trash ….you cant compare trent Williams to willie smith its a big difference willie smith was responsible for two of sacks trent Williams hardly let anybody get pass him most the time

      • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:05 AM

        Willie Smith played RT with the second string last night… FYI

      • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

        Well hes still most likely wont make the team

  6. colorofmyskinz - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:37 AM

    Interesting that we did not have any sacks once RGIII was replaced with our other 2 QBs. Baltimore much tougher defense than detriot. 2 back up QBs and no sacks. RGIII not playing… Coincidence? NOT.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:47 AM

      Did Trent Williams starting having anything to do with it? Coincidence? NOT

      I love it when suddenly the QB is more likely blamed for sacks than the guys up front blocking.

      • sidepull - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:10 AM

        Here here. Williams made a difference and I bet he would have made a difference last week.. Last weeks line was not an apples to oranges comparison with this weeks line. Both defenses were stingy. Trent makes a big difference.

      • Rich Tandler - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM

        Welcome to 2015, when almost everyone realizes that QBs have a lot to do with sacks. How did Cousins had a 3% sack rate and Griffin a 13% sack rate last year playing behind the same line?

        QB’s will get pressure. How they deal with it matters a lot.

        • TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM

          I could also say welcome to 2015, when almost everyone realizes that sack% and INT% are overrated statistics. Or should realize that they are.

          By the way, Griffin had zero sacks against the Browns — a fact that didn’t stop the detractors from making their inane criticisms. This has nothing to do with sacks, Rich.

        • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM

          Zero sacks against the browns, what did he take 8 snaps?
          Come oin now.

          Kirk is the better Pocket QB period. Not the better athlete or maybe not the most potential, but he slides and recognizes blitzes before the snap. He knows whats coming before the snap in most cases, Robert doesn’t have a clue.

        • TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 AM

          This is hilarious — now you’re appealing to sample size. Do you know how many total dropbacks Griffin had vs. the Lions? The same number he had vs. the Browns: 8. But the sacks he had in *that* game are relevant to detractors, and not his zero sack game vs. the Browns?

          (Or course, we’re assuming that preseason statistics matter in the first place — which they don’t.)

        • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:49 AM

          Its apparent that you think Robert is a NFL QB and I do not. I think our future QB arrives next offseason.

          No need to debate, agree to disagree.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:13 PM

          “Welcome to 2015, when almost everyone realizes that QBs have a lot to do with sacks. How did Cousins had a 3% sack rate and Griffin a 13% sack rate last year playing behind the same line?”

          Welcome to 2015 Rich so why are you talking about 2014?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:15 PM

          “Zero sacks against the browns, what did he take 8 snaps? Come oin now.”

          This is the same number of snaps others used the QBR on RG3 even with the dropped touchdown pass.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:40 PM

          Rich part of that has to do with RG3 being blitzed more and the Play Calling. Why did Cousins have a worse completion percentage and more interceptions? Probably because he was throwing it up for grabs so he wouldn’t get sacked, is that a better response to pressure that’s debatable,

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM

          Tim, for some fans; this is the new logic that apply in the RG3 era.
          1) Rule One – When sacks occur on RG3 it is more likely the fault of the QB rather than the protection.
          2) Rule Two – When pressured, it’s better to throw an interception than take a sack.

          I totally get RG3 responsibility in avoiding pressure but to ignore all other breakdowns this preseason by others is denial. So I guess Cousins now makes a bigger difference than the presence Trent Williams in preventing sacks.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:57 PM

          Just to keep this the issues in the right perspective:

          2014 interception percentage

          Cousins 9 of 204 = .044
          RG3 6 of 214 = .028

        • TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:04 PM

          Rich is correct to say that QBs have alot to do with sacks; Football Outsiders looked into this sometime back in one of their articles. (They need to do more work in this area, however.) Cousins is also better than RGIII at avoiding sacks.

          The issue is how the standards for the QBs are applied in analysis. They’re never consistent, and they’re hardly ever sound.

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:16 PM

          Here’s a thought, Rich;

          Griffin looks around trying to find a safe target, get provided scant time for that task, panics, pulls the ball down, and then gets sacked! The opposition is pumped.

          Not good? Agreed! But the Skins keep the ball, and can fight another play.

          Now Cousins — he feels the same quick pressure, panics, forces the ball where it should not go, and gets PICKED OFF! Possession goes to the oppo, who are pumped up — like CRAZY. (Not even gonna consider where on the field it occurs, nor Kirk’s reaction to his messup. Nice guy, huh?)

          Now, is that INT result better or worse than getting sacked, Rich? Or the same? You tell me. I trust your opinion. (And I hope you’ll back it with some of them there percentages! I LIKE those.)

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:18 PM

          “Rich is correct to say that QBs have alot to do with sacks; ”

          I agree as well that QBs share in the blame for sacks but who is arguing the contrary? My statement was about RG3 getting more blame for sacks than the protection. If you go by the original comment then the suggestion is the protection was no different between this week and last week. It’s clear the comment is attempting to place more blame for sacks on the QB. There is no acknowledging that Trent Williams was providing the left side protection or that the QBs clearly had more time to drop back and read the field than what RG3 was going through last week. Even the claim that Baltimore has a much tougher defense is not accurate. Detroit ranked in the top five in defense last season. Detroit is probably every bit as stout on defense up front.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:22 PM

          “Now Cousins — he feels the same quick pressure, panics, forces the ball where it should not go, and gets PICKED OFF! ”

          Just like he did with that tipped touchdown pass. He was about to get hit and threw a pass into coverage where it was anyone’s ball. Luck and nice concentration from Crowder made the difference here. Again, another example of where the players around the QB help to make things happen. This was not happening for RG3 last week.

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:33 PM

          “Again, another example of where the players around the QB help to make things happen. This was not happening for RG3 last week.”

          Uhhh…you DON’T really believe that anyone had time to think about that enough to do anything intentional, “redskinname” …or that Crowder thought “We’ll do this for Kirk, but weI won’t do it for that rotter, Griffin”??

          Please say that is NOT what you’re saying (or even thinking!); that I’m reading you wrong — or that you forgot to include a “wink-wink” emoticon, maybe?

          Please to clarify that for me. Thanks

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM

          I’m in no way suggesting that players provide a different level of effort for any QBs. That’s conspiracy nonsense I don’t like to delve into. I expect players want to contribute every bit as much regardless of who is behind center. That’s just how plays sometimes work out. Given a complete game I’m sure there would have been times RG3 would get bailed out by another player.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM

          with all these sacks going on how did we forget all them fumbles …got some stats for that?

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:03 PM

          I THOUGHT I got that wrong!

          But I think you’ll agree that there are posters here will hint that no one wants to play for Griffin; that they’re TRYING to make him look bad; that the team just doesn’t play the same with him in there (like he’s a jinx!); that all of his woes a just kismet, brought on cuz he’s angered the gods (not really! LOL) … all those conspiracy theories you mentioned.

          They ARE crazy, right? But when was there ever a shortage of “crazy” in Redskins wasteland?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:03 PM

          Help yourself in bringing in more stats like fumbles. No one is stopping you but yourself.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:07 PM

          Even the press chimed in about Gruden trying to ruin RG3. That’s not how I view it. That deflects away from the valid points and facts about this team. There’s a lot to not like about Gruden but sabotaging a player to get what he wants is not one of them.

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:33 PM

          “with all these sacks going on how did we forget all them fumbles …got some stats for that?”

          There ARE stats for that, gassie!

          ESPN shows Robert had 14 of “them fumbles” in 1063 pass attempts; Kirk had 6 in 407 atts.

          Soooo … just over twice as many fumbles — in just over twice as many attempts. A wash, no? Even YOU will admit to that!

          (Btw, Kirk had almost as many interceptions as RG (19-23) in those almost-half-as-many pass attempts. Just sayin’.)

      • Johnny B. - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:52 PM

        Did you watch the game I doubt it to have a comment like that.

  7. redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    I just wanted to side-step from the performance last night

    ————
    “We’re all as confused as you are,” Gruden said. “People have to understand this has nothing to do with the Washington Redskins. I know people want to make it out that we’re incompetent, but this had nothing to do with us. It was totally an independent doctor. A verbal [report] being said to our doctor, and then, all of a sudden, the written report is different. We followed proper course and did what we thought was right for Robert and what the report said. We followed everything by the book … This was all put on us at the last minute.”
    ————

    Gruden is wrong here! it’s incompetent clearing a player publicly on some verbal clearance instead of waiting until the written report was provided to the team doctors. That nonsense just leads to hearsay. It’s apparent to me it is another gaff by the organization because they should have simply waited for the official written report to be provided to the team doctors. I don’t know what protocol they followed but a better run organization would wait on written confirmation before making a declaring on a player’s status.
    –Never believe in what you hear, believe in what you see.

    • colorofmyskinz - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:45 AM

      It’s called RGIII you have been benched under cover of medical for the purpose of shoving a pacifier in Snyders mouth.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:48 AM

        Hmmm! Can you say this with a straight face?

      • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:44 PM

        Benched? By whom?!

        Who in the F.O. has shown ANY evidence or inclination that they plan to bench Griffin?

        And sorry, color, but YOUR vote doesn’t count in this instance, so don’t say “Me!”. ;^} (Neither do figments of your imagination.Ha)

    • hail74 - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:27 AM

      I disagree. The written report didn’t come until game day. The verbal clearance came Sunday?monday? Why would you bench a guy who the doctor said was ok? That’s on the independent for failure to properly report his findings, not the organization.

      • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:40 AM

        HAIL74 I AGREE!

      • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM

        Thats correct

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:51 AM

        The written report had to have been night before since the report of reversing the concussion clearance was the Friday night not on game day.

        “Why would you bench a guy who the doctor said was ok?”
        How do you know it is on the independent doctor? How can you know what was verbally discussed between the team doctor and the independent doctor? You don’t and neither do I! All you have right now is hearsay further validating the team should have gotten the written report before making any announcement. The written document eliminates hearsay and any potential communication breakdowns. This is a business and the organization is already guilty of incompetence by relying on faulty verbal communication even if it is the independent doctor’s error.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:44 AM

      Are you sure that, say, the Patriots always wait until getting the written report before clearing a player to play? The Packers? I’m not but it sure seems like you know that NFL teams always wait until examining the written report even though the doctor writing the report has given the all clear.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM

        I don’t know the protocol of any NFL team but this is business sense here. In your reporting or in my job if I make a claim that I heard this but the written document or email indicates otherwise, who is a fault? You or the other party?

        • Rich Tandler - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:20 AM

          There are plenty of reasons to bust on the Redskins organization. This is not one of them.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:33 AM

          When it comes to concussions and the potential that a player could have been on the field without being properly cleared, this has everything to do with the organization. Is the NFL prepared to shell out more billions of dollars on concussion injuries? Especially ones where a neurologist documents one thing but we have a team doctor claiming that is not what I heard?

          If this would have come down to a lawsuit, then the Redskins and the NFL would be behind the 8 ball.

          The organization created a liability here. Fortunately RG3 was pulled in time. Sorry but I agree to disagree with you here.

      • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:21 AM

        Its sounds like the all clear came from a independent doctor via a phone call to our team doctor and he then reported that to Gruden and they(the FO) cleared Robert. Once they saw the report and maybe the NFL reviewed it, another phone call was made about future possible lawsuits from clearing players to fast. Now I do not believe for a second that he sustained a concussion, that was a cop-out. Since they used it though, Robert needs to sit for at least 2 weeks, I think that will be NFL mandated from here on out.

        Gruden handled that press conference very well last night. I think its pretty clear to me that he wants to run with Kirk, I guess we will see.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:58 AM

          Yeah Capital it does sound like that is how it played out. However, clearing a player on an official report provided by the doc’s evaluation eliminates any assumptions or doubt. There would be no need to suggest, assume, or make claims about hearsay. None of this drama was necessary of the organization just used sound judgement and common sense.

  8. kenlinkins - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Down: The starting O-Line in general, they looked like they were walking thru a mine field. Boom: Kory L gets blown 5 yards back, Boom, Lauvao get blown 5 yards back, Boom, Carrier fly’s 5 yards forward (after missing block), Boom, Moses gets blown straight up in the air on a cut block! Boom, Scherff face down on ground (trying to jump on land mine to save his buddies?). Boom, There go’s Kory L again! Boom, there Morris hit 2 yards deep in the back field, AGAIN! For a group that is going to use the Power Running Game in 2015, they still require a lot of work.

  9. redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    I haven’t watched the game in full yet but I did see the highlights of some plays. It looks like Cousins moved the ball well at times but his only touchdown on the starters was a deflected pass that fell into Crowder’s hand, and he gave 3 points to the opponent with that interception. Cousins continues to pass well against backups and also had some level of success against the Raven starters. However, deflected passes going in the team’s favor won’t happen every game. It’s promising to see he actually improved after the interception where, as Bang provided, in the past his QBR would bottom out once he threw interceptions in games.

    • sidepull - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM

      Yea same thoughts on Cousins. I do recognize he had no first team reps, Having Jackson and Garcon for a full game is going to open some stuff up for whoever the starter will be. It will help that running game thats for sure.. Reed was very helpful last night as well.

      • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM

        True. All true.

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM

      Yea you right kirk cousins got lucky on that touchdown it couldve easy been another INT….To me I think rg3 still got his starting job kirk cousins aint show much or do much to say he should start…I simply think if jay gruden go to Kirk cousins week 1 he cant expect to go back rg3 when kirk cousins fail and I do way WHEN because he will basically kill rg3 confidence by benching him

      • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM

        It was zero coverage, Kirk knew when he threw it there was no safety behind the play to intercept.

        Do you know what zero coverage is?

        Also Roberts was mugged on the play, no flag.

        • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM

          not to mention that Roberts is playing for Desean Jackson. Roberts is not a starter normally. That offense will look different when Jordan Reed plays more than 2 plays and Action Jackson is back.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:29 AM

          Are you talking about a cover zero?

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:31 PM

          The refs called a boat load of penalties but seemed to miss the most obvious. One of Cousins incompletions was when the defender grabbed Roberts neck a full half-second before the ball got there, but I don’t think there was a foul on the TD.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM

          Bang I thought that too until I saw the replay in was simultaneous.

        • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:50 PM

          No, no, no

          Cover 9

          duh huh

        • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:58 PM

          or is it wide 9???

          dueling banjos be neer neer neer neer neer

  10. warpath1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Up, the first string offence moved the ball and scored points, against a very good defense. What’s not to like

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:56 AM

      Sorry to kill your hope, kirk got lucky on that touchdown pass kirk cousins couldve easy had 2 INTs and no touchdown…kirk cousins only showed what he did last year score once and struggle after that

      • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:26 PM

        got lucky why …..because the pass hit Roberts right in the hands and he botched it right to Cowder?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM

          You are right that ball did hit him right in the hands great pass if it was single coverage or end of the game going for end of the game little time needing to take a shot. But with that situation him being double covered against a single high safety defense everyone else was 1on1 Bad decisions that he got lucky on,

      • Johnny B. - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM

        I am sorry to disagree with you but Cousins struggled at first until his int. Then he got better getting the ball down field. Yes he got lucky with the td. But the next drive he took it back down the field again in a two minute drill. Even completing a pass to himself. Lol. But they scored again. So he started out slow and got better.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM

          He started out slow got a lucky TD. Then the Ravens took their #1s out then he scored on the Ravens backups

    • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:36 PM

      This game had the look that it would be 20-0 Ravens early on. The running game created no holes, the Ravens had to settle for FGs and missed their last attempt. Then the game changed. The Ravens put their twos in and *poof* Redskins roll.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:33 PM

        I saw no difference Cousins threw an interception got a lucky TD Wichita could have easily bin picked. After that the Ravens Pulled their #1s

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:14 PM

          “Wichita”?

          Was that the name of the play? Or that this season’s “Omaha!”, which we are going to hear repeatedly from the QBs at the line of scrimmage?? LOL

          Just kidding Tim .. jk … its prolly that dang spellchecker, right? (Thing gets ME all the time. Haha)

          Just wanted you to know that I was paying attention. ;^} Keep up the great comments.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:28 PM

          That’s that Shippensburg, Pennsylvania slang coming out

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:15 PM

          Shippenburg?! Cool!

          Wasn’t that founded by the grandfather of Peggy Shippen, Benedict Arnold’s wife?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:38 PM

          Don’t know it is a pretty old little town. Shippensburg University is our claim to fame thanks to John Kuhn and Brent Grimes

      • Johnny B. - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:09 PM

        The Ravens didn’t change their defense until the end of the half. So ones against ones 14 to 13 REDSKINS deal with it

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM

          Believe what you want Johnny. Their twos were playing against our ones on both sides of the ball and still doing well. If you DVRed the game re-watch it from 13-0.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM

          They Changed Right after the lucky touchdown. Can’t you tell the difference between Shaun and Flacco? Didn’t you notice Suggs And Smith were not on the field? He’ll they even showed Sighs wearing a ball cap

  11. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    I wouldn’t say down on Moses, yes he completely missed on the cut block, he wasn’t even trying to cut him so I would say forgotten assignment. He is still a rookie by starting standards, we need to leave the right side of the line alone until they have played about 10 games together. VERY YOUNG!

    I would find a spot for Ross even if you go short somewhere else, kid has speed to burn and very good hands.

    The new TE Carrier is a very solid blocker and special teams player.

  12. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    UP UP UP is Preston Smith

  13. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    The final LB spot is between Bates and Jeffcoat IMO.

    Its a tie with 1 game to go… Bates is the better edge rusher, Jeffcoat is the better all around athlete…It comes down to who plays special teams better….This one is not settled yet.

    • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:40 PM

      Jeffcoat is the MUCH better edge rusher. He has explosion but provides nothing in the run game. Bates is the better all-around backer – a very poor man’s Ryan Kerrigan.

  14. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    A CB about 4 years ago intercepted about 10 passes and looked to be a great up and comer. Forget it was in the ACC and 8 of those INTs were threw directly to him by bad QB’s. Here we are with a 3rd year player who doesn’t have a clue how to cover, David Amerson is DOWN DOWN DOWN. What a bust as a pick.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:09 AM

      Harsh. But accurate. Yet another bad draft pick.
      ~

  15. berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    might want to consider CUTTING Goldston and letting Jeron Johnson start and Akeem Davis can be the backup. save millions of dollars on the Cap.

    Jackson Jeffcoat is Junior Galette. Their combine times are bout the same. Jeffcoat is the fastest and quickest pass rusher on that team right now and he will BURN the Miami left tackle since Albert is out for 3 weeks.

    I’ve told you all that Morgan Moses is a GUARD. Not a tackle. He has slow feet. Tom Compton is slightly better and should be the starter in my opinion. that’s not a great option but its all we got.

    • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:47 PM

      Why are you saving dollars on the cap? What can you do with that savings? Is it your money that pays the salary?

      The Redskins are $7M-$9M under the cap.

      “Dashon Goldson signed a five year contract with the Buccaneers on March 14, 2013 worth $47.5 million. Goldson received a roster bonus of $4.5 million in 2013 and $3 million in 2014. Goldson was traded to the Redskins on April 3, 2015. To facilitate the trade the Buccaneers prepaid $4 million of Goldson’s 2015 salary. Goldson’s new contract calls for a $2.3 million roster bonus paid on August 1 and a $1.6 million salary according to Joel Corry.” From over the cap

      So you want thin an already thin position leaving it with virtually zero experience to add another $1.6M to cap well under the limit? Why?

  16. Reggie - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    UP: Preston Smith. He was all over the place.

    DOWN: David Amerson. He just gets worse and worse by the year.

    UP: Matt Jones. Man is tough!

    DOWN: Trent Murphy. He has YET to live up to all the offseason hype!

    • Reggie - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:46 AM

      Looks like Scott M.’s draft picks might be the real deal in a few years.

      Preston Smith
      Matt Jones
      Jamison Crowder
      Brandon Scherff (…?)

      • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM

        left off Keyshon Jarrett. He had an interception

    • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:19 PM

      Murphy had off-season hype? How’d I miss that stuff?

      Woulda thunk the drafting of P. Smith was a big red flag in regards to the FO’s assessment of Moif!

  17. kenlinkins - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Did anyone else think that K. Robinson’s tackle that started the fight was a bit dirty? Anyone else think he will get a fine for it?

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM

      Hell no…I love it…the guy is a physical beast …if you talk shyt to him he will do just that and the ravens didnt like that because he was bein physical most then they was

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:35 AM

      funny to use a word like DIRTY when talking about a play against the Ravens. Ravens and their coach are BULLIES….and the Redskins now are not the patsies they are the fight STARTERS. This will not be the last fight the Skins are in this season. Gruden may be a wimp…but Joe Barry and Perry Fewell are not and they are following the directives of ScotT M. Make this a TOUGH football team. Scott M wants to change the culture and I believe first chance he gets he will replace Gruden with a sunnuffa bich tough bastard.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:46 AM

      It was a very physical play but not dirty. I don’t like to see a player go face first like that on the field but Robinson was trying to create a turnover. The team won’t win games by playing nice.

    • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:52 PM

      Looked dirty but I don’t think the intent was to face plant him – just bringing him down. If you remember the drive before, a Raven took Alf’s legs out from on a similar tackle.

  18. George Villanueva - Aug 30, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Down – Amerson did not play well, nor did the entire first string secondary at times.

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM

      cut David Amerson and hire Rogers. Nothing lost there. Amerson cannot tackle and loses his footing too easily. And Goldson can sit on the bus next to Amerson as they leave town.

  19. Stephfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Oh how quick everyone forgets that’s Kirk didn’t score until some backups were in the game for the Ravens but when the starters were in he looked ok. Throwing an int? Fumbling the snap? I’m glad that we win but seriously people Kirk always looks good in preseason but fails in the regular season. Up I think is colt. Granted he played against backups but those elusive moves were on display. Preston smith has been an up. Trent Murphy down, starting d down,trey is a up.

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:44 AM

      how quick everyone forgets that Kirk Cousins did not practice with the first team all week and didn’t know he was starting until FRIDAY NIGHT……how quick everyone forgets that the play calling in the 1st quarter was not vanilla…..it was WATERED DOWN VANILLA.. How quick everyone forgets that on the interception Morgan Moses was beat up and pushed around by Terrell Suggs……how quick everyone forgets that the Redskins were calling for run after run on 1st down with 8-9 men in the box to stop the run in the first quarter and Kirk just ran the plays. How quick everyone forgets that Garcon had ONE target in the first quarter and Desean Jackson never played at all yet Cousins managed to lead TWO touchdown drives against a playoff defense.

      • Stephfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:47 AM

        He shouldn’t have thrown that pick or the ball to him but that’s the int king for you

        • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM

          yea they need to cut Cousins. He threw one interception. We can’t have that. Send him on the same bus with Eli Manning who also threw an int last night. They can both ride on the same bus as Tom Brady because I hear Brady will be cut after throwing TWO interceptons on Friday night. Whoever heard of a QB remaining on a team after throwing ONE interception in 3 preseason games. CUT COUSINS while we are still alive for the Superbowl.

        • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM

          Geez, no one is saying cut Cousin Kirk, bernie.

          And no one is saying hes a bad guy, fomenting locker room dissension by planting rumors about Griffin, or that he’s a cancer. No one is saying that he doesn’t have a place on the Skins. NO ONE (at least no one credible).

          It just seems some think that as an remedy to “the Horrible Curse of RG3, he hasn’t been sent from heaven. Simple as that.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:09 PM

          I’m saying cut him I haven’t liked him since day 1 he’s a bad Thing QB that is an interception waiting to happen

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM

        Backups are required to be prepared upon instance notice. They practice every week just like the starters and this is preseason. So the game planning, like you stated, was vanilla and probably unchanged. It wasn’t a huge ordeal for Cousins to step in with the starting unit under this situation.

        “Morgan Moses was beat up and pushed around by Terrell Suggs……”
        –Moses was moving back blocking the edge while Suggs cut inside and played the pass perfectly. The INT is not Moses fault! Cousins should have seen him before releasing the ball and Cousins himself stated this.

        “How quick everyone forgets that Garcon had ONE target in the first quarter and Desean Jackson never played at all yet Cousins managed to lead TWO touchdown drives against a playoff defense.”
        –Interesting analysis or spin: RG3 didn’t have Trent Williams blocking on the left side last week. Also he didn’t have Reed or Jackson. Cousins first touchdown pass could have easily been an interception but instead it was tipped to Crowder. Was it luck or by Design?
        Cousins second touchdown was on mostly backups.

        Cousins did some nice things in the game. The one thing that stood out is how he stood in the pocket. While in the pocket he did nothing special but hung in there and made some nice completions. Oh yes there was much better pocket containment than last week but let’s continue to ignore that fact. On a few plays Cousins moved backwards out of the pocket and dumped it off for some positive yards. He performed well but didn’t indicate any drastic improvements from prior years. If he gets the nod for starting then I’ll back him. However, I still will not be in any way surprised if RG3 still starts.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:38 PM

        How you forget Cousins threw an interception
        How you forget that the Ravens took out Their starters after the lucky TD
        How you forget that they called multiple play action passes, screens, shotgun and kept extra blockers in to slow the Rush FAR FROM VANILLA.

  20. goback2rfk - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    DOWN – Gruden

    If Jay Gruden doesnt get RG3 back in there he will be out of here like Shanahan was.
    I cant see Gruden lasting much longer as the Skins coach.

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:49 AM

      You Griffin Cult Followers somehow think that because RG3 is a good sprinter and can run fast in a straight line that somehow that makes him a good quarterback. If that was the case Usain Bolt would lead the league in passing. Griffin is not quick. Not quick with his feet….and not quick in his head. He cannot process information fast enough as a pocket passer and cannot read defenses. That is talked about by just about every analyst and ex quarterback on T.V……and now we ALL know it. Everyone except you.

      • me4gm - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:06 PM

        I agree. griffin is fast but not quick. When he scrambles he seems to have to plant both feet and then move. He doesn’t seem to side step and move up. It is full stop, plant, and then go. Struggles to feel pressure and seems to lack peripheral vision. No doubt he has the arm and great top speed. I still believe he can be the best quarterback on this team but he has to play a lot to get better and throwing quick to covered receivers is no solution. To be honest , his positive stats have come from bubble screens and jump balls the last couple of years.

  21. me4gm - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    imagine the hoopla if the doctors gave verbal clearance for Robert and the Skins refused to allow him to participate ? This is overblown and Gruden and co. operated ethically and professionally….no conspiracy here. If you want to talk truth , Robert’s ” head injury ” occurred earlier . This was obvious as you can see him dazed trying to shake cobwebs and blinking after being hit on earlier drive. The play that put him out was not significant at all. Any allegations of wrong doing should be pointed at Robert for not being honest , though I admire his courage and toughness , and the trainers for failing to recognize this

    • Stephfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM

      You sound dumb it’s not Roberts fault he didn’t get cleared? I swear everyone wanna blame griffin

      • me4gm - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:19 AM

        Not saying it was Robert’s fault he didn’t get cleared…it would be ” dumb ” to assume he can clear himself. My only point is, as part of the concussion protocol , looking at the play when he left the game would not suggest any significant head trauma. Earlier hits , one in particular , did. Nothing in my post blames Griffin for getting hurt. I in fact applaud his courage and toughness. I am trying to address the fact , once again , there is talk of coaches and management being negligent with Robert’s health and that would be untrue. I believe he was concussed but not on that play. His courage, toughness, and commitment ( all admirable qualities ) in my opinion led him to not be honest to himself and trainers to admit he was already hurt.

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:11 PM

          I agree with you as to when he sustained the head injury. I suspect those around him may have ‘misinterpreted’ his sullenness as to a response to the team’s performance rather than a symptom to a head injury.

  22. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Why the hell didn’t Gruden plant Harbaugh? I would pay to see that! Ask him Tandler, you better ask him, off camera of course!

    • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM

      two thumbs up!

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM

      Gruden is a wimp. He acts like a wimp. Sounds like a wimp. and he IS a wimp. Scott M wants a TOUGH team and Joe Barry and Perry Fewell are apparently giving it to the Defense. They have been in TWO brawls and mass fights in a 3 week period and it won’t be the last time that this team starts something but it has nothing to do with the Wimp in the head coach position. I think Scott M will replace him with a sunnuffa B by next season.

    • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:48 PM

      Fer real!! What was up with that play!

      Gru looked like a scared rabbit on that play… completely flummoxed — like he didn’t know WHAT was going on! Not the “tuff guy” we all know and respect! How could he allow Harbaugh to come off as the aggressor, and then just turn away and head back to his sidelines with nary a peep?!

      Just going easy on JH, probably. Or showing better sportsmanship, maybe? And we like sportsmanship! (Wasn’t it great sportsmanship on Keenan’s part that set Harbaugh into a tizzy in the first place? Whatta baby!)

      But Gru’ll get Jon NEXT time … if he ever tries THAT again — I betcha!

      • brucefan1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:50 PM

        (Whoa, that last rely was so convincingly written that even I almost thought that I actually meant it! LOL)

  23. me4gm - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Way Up…. Matt Jones , Jeffcoat ,Ross , Cousins , McCoy, Crowder. All looked like starters. Avoiding sacks just as important as avoiding turnovers…they go hand in hand in my opinion. .
    Down…Garcon…What’s up ? Not separating. Thompson looks afraid of contact. Amerson not man coverage corner and continues poor tackling. D Hall lacking speed and may not get it back. Safeties as a group mediocre coverage, physicality.Alfred doesn’t look quick enough. I thought Scherff was supposed to be mean and tough.
    The team has loads of potential but it may take midseason to hit their stride… which may be too late

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 30, 2015 at 10:58 AM

      you nailed a lot of it. Garcon play was botched and I blame Gruden for that. Poor play design and Garcon looked confused on what was going on. But Moses is just too slow to play tackle. Slow feet. Can’t stop quick ends like Suggs. Won’t be the last time somebody breaks up a play on Moses

      Hall played better than Amerson. They need to send Amerson on a bus because he is a LIABILITY. And what is up with those 10 yard cushions to receivers. Is Jim Haslett consulting this defense? I thought he left.

      • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:13 PM

        Exhibit A(merson) that it wasn’t all Hazlet’s fault.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:57 PM

          Prosecution Exhibit A Hazlett’s whole Career

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:05 PM

          Haset was unsuccessful for sure. But let’s not delude ourselves to think that he had talent to work with especially in the secondary. Haslet’s defenses’ numbers were better when Carriker was on the field. Since his injury, perpetual ruin.

          Even if Kerrigan, Galette, Hatcher, Paea, and Orakpo were all rushing on the same play; Amerson’s man would still be open. Amerson’s man is open at the ‘ga’ sound of Go.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:32 PM

          Did you notice that they called a Screen with Thompson in the exact same scenario that I suggested they should have in the Lions game and it worked!!!

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:37 PM

          It wasn’t 3 and 21. It did work and it likely was one of the plays they scripted for Griffin before the reversal by the independent.

  24. Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Hey with Crowder showing up and Ross, anyone think we should see what we can get out of Garcon in a trade?

    I see him as a cap cut after this season anyway, we are rebuilding under Scott McG.

    Thoughts?

    • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM

      I’ll give my thoughts when they combine for 100 receptions – something Garcon can do in a season.

      • Capital Defense - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:35 PM

        Well they will need tyhe opportunity…

        This is a rebuild of a bad football team, Crowder and Ross could become a part of that. Garcon will not be around, when and if we turn this thing around.

        • bangkokben - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:47 PM

          Ross has a 5% chance to make ANY team’s opening day roster. There is no room for him here (at this moment) and any team that wants him will have to cut someone that makes their first ‘final’ 53. Crowder is on the team but likely inactive until he’s 100%. These guys COULD be solid next year.

  25. redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    The drive just after the missed field goal by the Ravens showed some interesting differences and similarities between Cousins and RG3.

    On the very first pass attempt, Suggs beats Trent Williams on the Edge. Cousins sees the pressure coming and does about 1.5 step up. The play resulted in an incomplete and subsequent offensive holding. However, this is where RG3 needs to show. In he same scenario, RG3 may have not make the easy choice of stepping up and instead may have taken the sack.

    A few pass plays later you see Cousins in the pocket with a linebacker blitzing unabated. He takes the hit as he hits Matt Jones on the right side of the field who then rumbles for a first down. In a similar situation RG3 did the same taking a hit from a blitzing linebacker. The end result was a dropped pass by Roberts that would have been a first down. Of course, I find it ironic no one is commenting as to why Cousins didn’t instead step away from that blitz? What a difference a play makes when all parties do their part and you get a first down out of it.

  26. timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    I have Cousins stock Even
    Cousins did make a couple plays but he also was in effective against the ones. Just like RG3. That’s not on him as much as it is the Oline. they were getting blowed up. there was a interception a fumble and he made some questionable throws and inaccurate ones. He did a Great job getting rid of the ball even though he was gonna take a big hit. the throw into double coverage was a bad decision that worked out But that Throw was on the money. Hit the WR in the hands. I wish they would have played McCoy against the ones also so we could have gotten an even comparison against the ones for all 3 QBs.

    • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM

      yep oline blowed up but no sacks and no concussions!

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:13 PM

        Yes no sacks, but he threw an interception a couple questionable throws that he was lucky weren’t picked and some inaccurate throws. We’re these due to the passing rush? Not the interception, but the others probably. Is it better to throw bad throws and into double and triple coverage for a possible interception instead of taking a sacked? That’s debatable.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:20 PM

          Also since instead of looking what happened during the game you sat there looking for reasons to shoot off about RG3 you must have missed

          Cousins was just as ineffective against #1s as RG3. After the luckky touchdown the Ravens Pulled their starters.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:25 PM

          i never said a word about rg3 and this game :)

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM

          You were obviously referencing him with the no sacks comment since you included concussions.

          Still Cousins did nothing against the 1st team except throw a pick

      • Stephfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:19 PM

        Gas a wideout had a concussion and second your acting as if concussions can be caused by bad play

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM

          no just thankful we didn’t lose another QB due to oline being blowed up again :)

  27. gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    It was very nice to see the QB make adjustments at the line to help his team!

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:36 PM

      Where? When? Examples? I’d like to see you provide some for once.

      • warpath1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM

        Watch the game again

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:01 PM

          I did! I’m not even suggesting there were no adjustments. However, lets bring some facts to the table here. But of course, you are just like your friend where you have all claims but provide no substance. Awesome response.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM

          warpath it’s like kindergarten again with some of these people you have to hold their hands and point at the letter so they can see it to read it :)

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:55 PM

          So no examples of these adjustments to provide, Gas? Seems to be you side-step and elude your own BS better than any our QBs do pressure in the pocket.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:57 PM

          here… beings you need some real substance :) enjoy!

          On a 17-yard pass to running back Matt Jones in the second quarter, Cousins pointed to the blitzer. Then, after the snap, he lofted a soft ball to Jones as he backed away from pressure.

          The touchdown pass that bounced off Andre Roberts’ hands to Jamison Crowder is a good illustration of what Cousins did to help the line. He knew a blitz was coming, so when he hit his fifth step in the drop, he planted and threw. If he had hesitated, even a little hitch step, he would have been sacked.

          He wasn’t sacked Cousins routinely threw the ball after hitting his plant step. That leads to throws in rhythm, and it prevents defenders from getting that extra half-second to reach the quarterback.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM

          So you just copy and past keim’s report? Yeah I read that first thing in the morning.

          “Also, Cousins did a good job identifying blitzes. On a 17-yard pass to running back Matt Jones in the second quarter, Cousins pointed to the blitzer. Then, after the snap, he lofted a soft ball to Jones as he backed away from pressure.

          The touchdown pass that bounced off Andre Roberts’ hands to Jamison Crowder is a good illustration of what Cousins did to help the line. He knew a blitz was coming, so when he hit his fifth step in the drop, he planted and threw. If he had hesitated, even a little hitch step, he would have been sacked.”

          Of course you have nothing to add from your own analysis.

          How about…
          Interception blues: This play was botched from the beginning, as the Redskins expected a three-man front rather than the four-man set Baltimore used. That put linebacker Terrell Suggs in a good spot to disrupt the play — but he did more. Cousins should have just thrown the ball at the feet of Suggs to prevent the turnover.

          “I wish I had thrown it into the ground, but I didn’t see him right away,” Cousins said.

          Cousins must learn from this one to avoid a repeat. He has thrown an interception in 10 of his 14 regular-season starts.

        • warpath1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:28 PM

          @ skinsname. Why would you take offence of my comment about watching the game again? I thought there was an obvious difference in the qb play last night. Unlike gasngo I don’t feel the need to prove anything to you. If you can’t see the difference then just agree to disagree. No need to attack people

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:41 PM

          warpath he attacks people with many names on here …unfortunately that’s his game it will come to an end eventually as it has on other blogs!

        • Stephfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:08 PM

          Gas you keep saying no sacks well griffin has thrown no ints

        • warpath1 - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:06 PM

          How sad

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:16 PM

          warpath, if you weren’t being sarcastic in your comment then I apologize. When a response is made to watch the game; it implies sarcasm.

          LOL! I’ve never been banned from any site and don’t use multiple names. If you follow the site here enough you know Rich is on top of multiple accounts with the same person. He quickly removes them.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM

        Cousins was up there pointing out where he thought the blitzed was coming from. RG3 does the same. Was there a difference in the protection against the Ravens 1st defense. No

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:34 PM

          once again no sacks…so you tell me?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:47 PM

          The difference was Cousins throwing Questionable and inaccurate passes instead of taking the sacked He still got Peaked a bunch of times

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM

          say what?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:09 PM

          Got hit a bunch of times

  28. timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    @ bangkokben

    Did you notice that they called a Screen with Thompson in the exact same scenario that I suggested they should have in the Lions game and it worked!!!

  29. austrianhttrfan - Aug 30, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    For me:

    UP:
    Ross: I think he also looked last year impressive, to be honest…Altough I´m a fan of draft picks development, let Spencer develope for one year on the pratice squad and give Ross the roster spot, he looks really good!

    Jeccoat: Yeah, he is a talented rusher…you can see that, he must stick!

    Matt Jones: Man, this man runs…great pick so far…

    Down:
    Amerson: Ufff….

    And there were also downs…I just don´t quit remember them…I wouldn´t be to low on Murphy…I think he´ll be good…you can see he has some skill to get to the QB…but time will tell….

  30. TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    I don’t think anyone is disputing that Cousins has played better than Griffin in the preseason, but that’s not the issue. These are the issues:

    1. Griffin has a total of 16 dropbacks this preseason. Cousins has 54.
    2. Preseason.

    So in the first case, you have tiny sample sizes for both QBs, and significantly uneven sample sizes. In the second case, the performances themselves are rendered insignificant. If you’re arguing about who the better QB is moving forward using this information, then you are arguing nonsense. You can’t even reliably compare the QBs using 2014 stats, and those stats are way more useful than preseason stats.

    • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:47 PM

      hogs giving what we have seen with this new O system under gruden and the teams risk with the cap hit what would you do moving forward and why?

      • TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:09 PM

        I’d keep both QBs. Griffin is a 25-year old, former RoY/former MVP candidate and of the most highly-regarded draft prospects in a decade. Cousins hasn’t played a bunch of games, but his best trait is durability, and he has been able to fill in for Griffin. Cutting the former is silly because generational prospects don’t grow on trees, and if Griffin is a replacement-level QB, you can slot in another QB easily from the the draft. Cutting the latter is silly because Griffin has been injury prone.

        Having cap room and spending tons of money in the NFL in free agency is spectacularly overrated. They key is to draft and build a team, and to draft wisely.

        • gasngo14 - Aug 30, 2015 at 5:24 PM

          so you think RG3 can succeed in this system as a pocket QB?

        • TheHogs - Aug 30, 2015 at 11:48 PM

          Yes. Not that it matters, since he (and Cousins) play for an inept franchise.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 30, 2015 at 4:49 PM

      I would say they Played about the same against 1st string opponents. RG 3 was mostly ineffective in the games he played and Cousins was ineffective against the Ravens 1st string defense ( 1 interception and 1 lucky touchdown) a lot of these people fail to realize the Ravens took their 1st string out after that lucky touchdown.

      The biggest issue again like last year is the Oline.

  31. Kevin Broadus - Aug 30, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    I haven’t seen anything from Josh LeRiebus to warrant him getting a roster spot, In the scrimmage he got crushed by Wilfork and he hasn’t done anything in the games.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 30, 2015 at 7:23 PM

      Sometimes make a roster simply comes down to a lack of viable alternatives.

  32. dirtydrynn27 - Aug 31, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    You forgot David Amerson who was repeatedly torched by Steve Smith…..I saw Dez Bryant use the same move on him last year….Secondary is in trouble if he starts!!!!

  33. Capital Defense - Aug 31, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na….. Hey Hey Goodbye

    Once you are healthy and cleared you are out of here!!!

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