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Need to Know: Five Redskins who need good practice weeks

Aug 24, 2015, 5:33 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Monday, August 24, five days before the Washington Redskins play the Baltimore Ravens.

Five players who need good weeks in practice

After a day off today, the Redskins start preparation for their preseason game in Baltimore on Tuesday. Here are some players who need to have good weeks in practice.

QB Robert Griffin III—This is quite obvious but too essential to leave out. After playing fairly well against the Browns, Griffin had plenty of issues with his mechanics on Thursday. Of course, he didn’t have much of a pocket to work from.

RG Brandon Scherff—He now knows that the days of being able to physically dominate the guy lined up across from him are over. The No. 5 pick in the draft will have to work overtime with line coach Bill Callahan to polish his technique.

OT Willie Smith—Scherff needs a lot of work but he is going to make the team. Smith needs to do something to erase the stain of his poor performance against the Lions if he is going to go from the bubble to the 53-man roster on September 5. The thing is, he might not get into the Ravens game and first cuts are a few days after that. A good showing in practice this week would help his chances of surviving until the fourth preseason game.

TE Derek Carrier—Yes, he just got to town so he doesn’t have any errors he has to atone for. But he needs to learn the offense in a hurry so he can step in and contribute right away. It would be good if he can get some offensive snaps in on Saturday against the Ravens. With Jordan Reed constantly ailing he might be needed to start sooner rather than later.

OLB Houston Bates—He has had three sacks in the two games so far. A roster spot a linebacker came open when Adam Hayward was lost for the season with a knee injury. It’s all there for him to grab but he needs to show that he’s not a flash in the pan.

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Today’s schedule: Off day, no availability

—It’s been 239days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 20 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

Days until: Preseason Redskins @ Ravens 5; final cuts 12; Redskins @ Giants Thursday night 31

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Aug 24, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    We know Derek Carrier can block so the question is can he catch. If he can show any resemblance putting his hands around the ball, he pushes Reed to the number 2 spot real fast. Any TE in the NFL can beat Reed out if they show they have any desire to block.

    RGIII is a major concern. Was developing and then relapsed to his greatest depths of low in one game. He looks very similar to last year when he was benched. How many first down throws does he have, how many TDs, and how many scores in the red zone??? How many hits taken very avoided??? Identical to last year. So much so it is frightening.

    Scherff will prove himself, not worried there.

    One that concerns me is Kai F. How much improvement on distance and touch backs? None really. Did hit a 52 yard by brushing the crossbar. Major problem for kickoffs here still.

    Special teams? What can you say. Kowitca… Any improvement yet? None 2 years running…

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:09 AM

      Carrier is known as a pass catching TE who can play special. It’s blocking that we don’t know he can do.

      http://sports.yahoo.com/news/getting-know-san-francisco-49ers-170002916.html

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:32 AM

      If you want to ask how many first downs RG3 has thrown then include two dropped passes in as many weeks where one was a first down while the other was a touchdown. It also helps that the running game sets up better 2nd yardage situations. Finally there’s blocking that needs to provide better protection. RG3 needs do a better job of stepping away from pressure no doubt but the players around him need to do a better job to aid his development in the pocket. His development on game day requires a team effort. As a whole the first team offense hasn’t done well in enabling RG3 in getting any rhythm going. Catch the damn balls and protect better and good things just might happen

      • skinsgame - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:01 AM

        His development in the pocket? Honestly, hes a statue when he isn’t moving in the absolute wrong direction.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM

          I don’t deny his lack of mobility in the pocket just as you and others shouldn’t deny areas around him that need to perform better. The issue with the first team does not fall on one player. When will some of you stop focusing on the issues of on starter on this offense?

        • skinsgame - Aug 24, 2015 at 3:30 PM

          I don’t deny that, believe me. But the whole right side of the line is revamped and there were multiple changes on defense as well. The team is making changes at critical areas where previous players were unreliable or underperforming. No other position on the team has a player that gets repeated opportunities to improve but continues to show such minimal gains or complete regression.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 6:50 PM

          With the investment made on RG3 it’s impossible just treat him like some 4th round pick especially at QB. This position is the most polarized, difficult, and time consuming to develop. Especially when RG3 didn’t play a pro set offense in college. Facter in injuries and coaching changes to a rookie coach and I’m not sure why anyone is surprised about where he is in his development.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:02 AM

      Every Analysis,Ex Football player, and people who know the game agree thr Lions game was totally on the Oline.

      • MC12 - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:24 AM

        Not so. Cooley pointed out several words that Bob had. Bad reads, late reads, etc. So have several olineman on the networks. The team dropped an egg there, not just the oline,

        • brucefan1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:38 AM

          READ the defense? Dude barely had a second to glance at the page!

          For NO other QB (definitely not Cousin Kirk or McCoy!), would be these’s criticisms be being made. (But that comes with the territory of being RG3! Gotta laugh!)

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:38 AM

          I read that also and agree issues were on both the Oline and RG3. However if you want to see RG3 improve then receivers need to stop dropping balls that hit them in the hands which one eliminated a touchdown and the other a first down. Linemen should not allow themselves to force the QB to improvise his stance on every drop back .

          RG3 is getting the ball out faster despite the misinformation from naysayers. Last season he may not have gotten off a single pass compared to the ones he did get off laying Detroit

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:09 AM

          Kurt Warner said it was on the Oline. The blocking was bad and there was no time. He got hit on all but 1 pass attempt.

        • weneedlinemen42 - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM

          At one point the LT just blocked the wrong guy leaving the right end a free run to the QB. Griffin got nailed by a huge blindside hit but the ball was gone.

          He got the ball out in time on a play where an edge rusher was just allowed to burst off the line and run straight to the target.

          That’s not a slow delivery by the QB. The o-line just got absolutely monstered.

          That said, I do have worries about Griffin because the last couple of hits came when he showed all the signs of having zero trust in his protection.

          He’s just taken too many hits, after the first two series he was hearing footsteps. He’s brave and he kept on going but it was in his head.

          That sort of thing takes a long time to overcome, and most QBs never do. I hope Griffin can but it is going to take a few years of goods pass pro before a few hits wont make him skittish for the rest of the game.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM

          I haven’t heard anyon say about bad reads or footwork about this game. Maybe about last year but not this game.

        • hk2000 - Aug 25, 2015 at 12:45 PM

          As soon as you mention Cooley, your argument loses all credibility- especially when it’s about Griffin. Cooley has an axe to grind and the team’s radio station gave him a platform to do it, that’s why I say Griffin needs to get the hell out of this poisonous town.

        • Trey Gregory - Aug 25, 2015 at 4:18 PM

          Yeah, Chris Cooley is not the end all be all authority on these types of things.

          Let’s get back to reality guys. We can analyze the hell out of, find some blame, and say a QB should have done something different on almost any play where a QB doesn’t get the intended results. Any QB, including the greats. Nobody does it perfect. So we can sit here and nit pick RG3 all day for how he should have taken a step left here and right there, but it’s mostly nonsense. Because his protection was atrocious. There’s not many, if any, QBs that could have done much better with protection THAT bad. His left tackle was letting guys rush him unblocked. Unblocked guys. Those DEs run fast too. There’s absolutely no way to get the ball out fast enough or to avoid that kind of pressure by stepping around in the pocket. It’s just not going to happen. Then, most QBs are going to be rattled after taking so many hits. Theisman even said as much on the broadcast. I also noticed multiple hits where RG3’s head hit the turf much harder than the headshot he took on his last play. So I think there’s a good chance he was playing concussed as well as shell shocked. So blaming RG3 is pointless. If he had even acceptable protection and still played as bad, that’s a different story. But he had the worst protection I can ever recall seeing. So the fault is on the line. We can’t truly evaluate RG3 until he gets better protection, and neither can Chris Cooley.

          And before you guys attack me. Just know. I blame RG3 for his struggles last year, not the OLine. They weren’t the best but they were plenty serviceable for a complitent QB to play behind. So this isn’t an excuse that I give him often. Also, I don’t want to hear how McCoy and Cousins didn’t take any hits with the same players. Because, if you actually go back and watch, the OLine play significantly improved after RG3 got hurt. McCoy and Cousins weren’t dealing with the same kind of pressure that RG3 was. The same players do not = the same protection. You are all more than welcome to share your thoughts about why the lineplay improved, but don’t say it was because of the QB play, because that’s simply not reality.

      • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:30 AM

        RGTree?

      • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:01 AM

        Then they must be blind I guess. The line was bad but Griffin wasn´t mobile enough after the snap, particularly on the first two sacks. If the Analysis Ex Football players (?) were unable to see that then I´m not sure why we would listen to them. Watch a few games with teams other than the Redskins to see just how anomalous the situation is. For example the Colts VS Philly: Andrew Luck and the first string comes on, rhythm is good, he moves well, the blocking is good. Alright we´ve seen enough and off he goes halfway in the first quarter. The Colts lost the game but the first string looked solid.
        This is the complete reverse of Washington, where nobody is able to do a thing until the second string comes on. And that´s not “all on the o-line”. I`ve never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.

        • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:13 AM

          That’s exactly what I see. But, we went from a bad oline to a inexperienced oline. Did anyone expect them to do well against a very good dline this early.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:30 AM

          Are Luck WRs dropping passes?

          Part of getting a QB to perform better is to provide at least blocking that doesn’t force an adjustment on every pass attempt but maybe one like what was on display against Detroit. RG3 had to throw on long second and third downs every time with subpar blocking that allowed Detroit to unload on him. You expect Elway or Big Ben elusiveness in the pocket to develop under constant duress. That’s not how players normally develop.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:55 AM

          Well yeah they´re dropping passes. His pocket even broke down once. But he sidestepped, advanced to the side and got a pass off. It´s not normal to just stand there like RGIII did on the first two sacks, and it made the line even worse than it already was. Just go have a look for yourself and tell me about RGIII´s footwork when you´re done. It doesn´t exist.
          Now it was better on some of the hits he took that weren´t sacks. He dropped back and moved around a couple times. But then he waited too long to pass instead, and that was his whole problem last year.
          Doesn´t matter if the receivers are dropping balls in the PS. That´s their problem, not RGIII´s. He needs to throw anyway and pretend like he has the best receivers in the world on every play. What good is it to dilly dally in the backfield and go “I refuse to pass to those ninnies who drop all my wonderful balls!” What is he here here, three years old?
          Using other people´s lack of performance as an excuse for his lack of performance is ridiculous. He needs to do what he´s supposed to do anyway, and let the others take the heat for their blunders.
          O-line bad? Fine, throw the ball on first read, hand off or tuck and run and slide immediately. Then explain the situation to the line after.
          Receivers stink? Throw the ball to them anyway and tell them they stink in the huddle. How hard can it be?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM

          The Colts have nothing to do with our play bad comparison

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:20 AM

          Yes unlike the authoritarian fiction you keep posting in your desperate attempt at protecting someone who doesnt need protecting. He needs a kick in the gluteus maximus so he remembers how to do basic stuff like dropbacks, sidesteps etc.
          No point even trying to explain my example with the Colts to you. You obviously decided years ago, based on nothing, what the truth is and never even look at reality. Who needs it anyway?

        • brucefan1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:30 AM

          Please redskinsname, don’t expect some fans to hold Griffin to a standard that’s equal too ANY QB, from way up at Big Ben, all the way down to Colt. It ain’t gonna happen. They have rules of their own for him. So for them, whatever he does OK is not good enough; whatever goes wrong is his fault, and his “bad” is twice as bad as the next guy’s.

          Like I posted earlier, imho there is no WAY Cousins or McCoy would have got the same flaming for succumbing to that devasting pass rush the Detroit starters put on as Griffin has. Those flamers mighta thrown a pity-party for those two!

          Can’t you just see it; the gnashing of teeth, the hands in the air, the wailing, ” Ohhh… our poor Kirk (or Colt) — how could we allow this to happen to them?! Can’t the coaches see that they have no chance out there?! And even tho they may be mere mediocrities, they are OUR mediocrities — cuz they wear the B&G! Someone MUST answer for this atrocity!!” LOL! Griffin gets just the opposite.

          (But then Griffin brought this double standard on himself, didn’t he?! ;^} “Why could he have not TALKED so much? Why could he have not TWEETED so much? Why could he have not coined slogans?! Why could he have not just been more …. CONVENTIONAL — like our dear Kirk & Colt??!!” And we LIKE conventional, don’t we?)

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM

          These people aren’t blind they are looking at more than just the QB, they understand it takes more than one guy to make a play successful, and they also understand that an Offensive line has to block and you don’t blame everything on the QB.

          Watching just the QB and thinking everything is the QBs fault is usually a sign of someone who barely understands the game

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:41 AM

          I haven’t read the whole comment yet but what is ridiculous is to expect a QB to improve when under constant duress. It doesn’t matter when receivers are dropping touchdown passes and first downs, since when? You drop a first down pass on 3rd down deep in your own territory and the series is dead. That’s not in RG3 that is on Roberts. Peyton Manning drops back much like RG3 was. The difference is how RG3 handles pressure in that stance. Everyone knows he has to get better moving in the pocket but it’s not happening if players around him don’t do their part. This is not an excuse but commen sense football.

          Again he is clearly getting the ball out faster and Keim stated this as well in one of his reports. It’s not ideal yet but it’s get this …IMPROVEMENT

          At least I acknowledge RG3s faults but so many cant see the forest among the trees regarding RG3

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM

          The reason the colts have nothing to do with our team is because everything is different with them Players Blocking, players Catching, Coaches calling Plays, players running the ball, and a different offensive system.Everything is different.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM

          Exactly what have I ever made up?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

          Either you haven’t noticed, refused to notice, or just can’t tell the difference between plays. But they have bin calling 2 different offenses for the 1st team and the 2nd team. Why they are doing this I don’t know but it’s dumb.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:18 AM

          Here is a Direct Quote from the Coach

          “We need to fix a lot, obviously. We are working with a new right side of our line and had some new tight end issues going on in there and a new left tackle,” Gruden said. “So we had some guys that needed the work and it wasn’t very effective to say the least.” 

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:18 AM

          Hey Bruce, I think many of these critics of RG3 have lived without a consistent franchise QB for so long that the preference now is to turn to another QB as soon as the other struggles. How long do you think all the ones pushing for cousins would turn on him if he started and struggled? I say no more than 2 games.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:26 AM

          I think it’s dumb to want to replace a QB that won the Division and was rookie of the year after only 2 bad years ( actually 1bad year 2013 he was average with a leg brace). When the Oline is terrible at Pass Blocking. This is only the 2nd PRESEASON GAME. People think that a QB is supposed to have instant success in a new offense while building an Oline. SMH

        • skinsgame - Aug 24, 2015 at 3:33 PM

          Funny how, once Bob left the game, the lines inefficiencies were not so glaring. The other QB’s know how to slide around to buy time. Bob is not getting it.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 3:41 PM

          Shhh, we´re not allowed to say it or we will be endlessly spammed by angry ranters! Space aliens are to blame!

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:23 PM

          Oh and as for balance I blame Tim for radicalizing me with his mindless comments. I can sit down and write exactly what he´s going to say without even looking at his comments. That´s how predictable he is. I did rather enjoy his new conspiracy theories about Gruden to be fair. But he still aggravates me by his superhero-like ability to ignore the actual events on the field.
          Is it a plane? Is it a bird? No, it´s Captain Oblivious!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM

          Skulb, there is a complete lack of balance from your analysis so maybe you should seek advice from those space aliens. You actually had it right once suggesting that RG3 was working soley in the pocket because he needs the work there. Now you want to agree with skins the QBs were running the same offense the same way. The backup QBs rolling out initially not working in the pocket until the running game got going and took over against Detroit replacements.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM

          I don´t quite understand what you´re getting at here. There´s a difference between first read > scramble/run and moving around in the pocket. Griffin´s problem on the two first sacks was that he did neither. Be9ing a pocket passer doesn´t mean you never move right?
          So why is this some sort of contradiction? I honestly don´t understand.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM

          What’s funny skins is you not knowing what you are talking about. The very next drive were the huge runs kicked off by Matt Jones and followed by Chris Thompson. By the time Colt made his first pass attempt it was on first down in Detroits territory. That pass attempt was a wide rollout to the right. A few more successful runs and colts first pass attempt in the pocket was a flounder too the ground for incompletion that came with a late hit by the safety.

          The run game on backups and TC fodder is what stalled the pass rush which included a clear rollout by Colt that RG3 never came close to running in any series.

          –Just more misinformation from the misinformed

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:46 PM

          Skull, I was talking about the difference in how the QBs ran the offense where you appeared to be agreeing with Skins false claim.

          While it’s possible that the same offense can be run, colt was not working in the pocket like RG3 was. Colt was rolling away from pressure initially and the running game was getting huge chunks. In other comments I recall contending that RG3 was in the pocket because he needs work there which I would agree. Colt was not doing the same pocket work as Skins claim. It’s just plain wrong

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:22 PM

          They started calling bootlegs, play action, pistol, and shotgun to slow the pass rush something they should have done with the first string

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:26 PM

          Skulb you just get mad and start acting like a child with name calling and such because I point out the truth and you can’t come up with a viable argument against it. And while your at home complaining and missing half the game or not watching it at all I’m at the game with a great view from the 50 yard line. Cheering my team on.

        • skinsgame - Aug 25, 2015 at 12:24 AM

          Yes, the entire playbook was immediately scrapped and the coach began calling plays with the goal of making Robert look worse. And, evidently, the RB’s also want Robert to fail. Right.

  2. timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Last night they had an article about who is to blame RG3 or the Oline posted on csn for about a minute then it disappeared. What happened???? Did anyone else see that headline?

    • kenlinkins - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM

      Was that the “play by play” one that had the “What Happened” and the “Why it Happened” sections? If so, then yes, I saw it.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM

        I went to read another article came back to check it out and it was gone. Wonder why?????

  3. mr.moneylover - Aug 24, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    Ppl say trent Williams cant block for 4 guys but he can stay on top of players who not doing they job so thats why its big when he is out there….the whole offense as a whole need to some goods this week

  4. renhoekk2 - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Moving in the pocket is something all good QB’s do. It’s not sprinting outside the pocket, it’s stepping up into the pocket, it’s sliding a step or two to the left or right, all the while keeping your eyes downfield looking for a WR or a window to get the pass out. RGIII has not learned to do that, at all. And after all of the sacks and hits he’s taken, if he hasn’t learned to do it out of self preservation, nothing the coaches tell him is going to sink in. If your QB can’t help himself,and by extension the offense, with simple movements in the pocket, and for some reason has trouble spotting wide open WR, then what are doing as a team? What’s next, the old Oklahoma Sooner wishbone triple option and run the ball 50 times a game?

    • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM

      Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s a learnable skill. Moving in the pocket is more instictional

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

        No it’s not! It is coachable and can be improved upon with repetition. Most of the flaws with RG3 are about getting comfortable mentally. Will it happen? Maybe and maybe not. However almost every QB comes in the NFL needing to be coached on pocket movement

        • kenlinkins - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:35 AM

          You are 100% correct, that is why each QB from Pee Wee football to the NFL learns the fundamentals and mechanics of drop back passing if he wants to be a Pro Style system QB. Each flaw that is allowed to remain in a QB increases the pain at the next level when the speed of the game increases and passing windows get smaller. It is much harder to become a Pro Style and why so few come out of college ready to play (college coach’s take the easy path of running a college passing system of throwing on the move.) It is also why it is such a big gamble picking a QB in the draft, you just do not know which ones can be coached out of the flaws and what level they can get to, but if you find one you are headed for many wins.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM

          Well stated Ken

        • kenlinkins - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:11 PM

          And if I knew for sure if RG3 can correct or over come his flaws I wouldn’t be writing on Rich’s blog’s, I would be coaching in the NFL. No one, and I mean no one can say for 100% sure that they know the outcome of RG3’s struggles right now. As Redskins fans we can just hope he gets better and becomes a real asset at QB!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:46 PM

          I agree Ken. Only time will tell. I have my own doubts but I am convinced with past adversity that is not all on him, RG3 deserves to play out this season as a starter.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:37 AM

      So you think players improve in the NFL on self preservation alone and not through coaching? Then why have all these coaches? Under your premise you should just need one guy each calling plays for offense, defense, and special teams

      • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM

        I guess you didn’t understand my comment. I was only talking about qbs that have that extra sense of the pocket collapsing around them. If you want to play dumb and irrationally apply that to all coaching positions go ahead. While your playing dumb pretend that rg3 has that ability. Doesn’t look like he does to me

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:25 PM

        Another weak response but with lame name calling. Just like that immature nickname attempt on RG3. Movement in the pocketi is coachable even when it callaspses

        Maybe football 101 is not a “learnable skill” for you. Try making an intelligent comment then you might not receive dumb responses cowboy fan wannabe

        • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:36 PM

          So your calling your response dumb. Is this reverse psychology?

  5. gonavybeatarmy - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    This week, one is reminded of the tale of Rip Van Winkle. Except in this case, when the Skins fan went to sleep he woke up a year later and yet nothing has changed relative to the QB position.

    It was the infamous third preseason game last year against the Ravens in which Griffin was so bad that the head coach suggested that the team would need to try and win games by scores of 13-10, despite the rules favoring offenses more than ever before. Griffin was a god-awful 5/8 for 20 yards (a pathetic four yards a completion) with no TDs and an interception in that preseason game coming off an injury-free offseason.

    One day this pathetically bad franchise will eventually have stability at the QB position entering the third preseason dress rehearsal game. I hope.

  6. cowboyhater - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    It’s interesting to continue to see the RG3 protectors out there…..I have made some very critical comments on RG3, and I hope it’s egg in my face and I will admit that, but guys let’s get real here. We said the same exact thing last year in preseason about RG3. Then the regular season started, and we saw the same mistakes. I have a feeling that it will repeat itself again this year. I went to training camp and didn’t see any improvement. He sat in the pocket, and triple clutched the football because he seemed to not know where to go with the football. Let’s hope he is past all of that, but I think 4 years is enough (injury or no injury) to give him a shot to claim the starting QB position on this team. This could be a long season….this team has not impressed me at all in these 2 preseason games. ST’s looks inconsistent, Defense can’t get off the field, and we can’t pass protect, and have a nervous QB. Different leadership, same results. I predict 3-13, new head coach and they will void RG3’s 5th year option. Just seems no matter what this team does, we will get the same result and more and more fans will start walking away from this team. Young fans that is….because us old geezers still have those super bowl memories and hope to relive it again.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM

      Getting real is addressing the complete picture about RG3s development which is poor management of his development by this franchise as well as RG3s own missteps and challenges. Some of you fans just want to arbitrarily throw one QB after another in until something finally works. This fickle approach to thinking would result in me getting my first social security check before seeing the next winning season in Washington.

      Many factors must fall into play before we seen a consistent winner behind center. If you want to see RG3 get better behind cente then all players need to their part. Again development doesn’t happen when under constant duress like what was witnessed last week that included a dropped first down catch and long second and third down situations. At least offer some opportunity for rhythm in the offense. That never took place. Yes the QB needs to stop creating his own sacks but players around need to do better. You fans that lean this all on RG3 are missing the big picture here

      • cowboyhater - Aug 25, 2015 at 9:33 AM

        You spoke common sense in terms of all pieces to this offense must click…you are right about that, but your opinion is looking in from the outside. It’s up to the QB to call plays at the line of scrimmage if he sees the wrong O line alignment, or if he sees a safety cheating to one side of the field, etc…… Do you know if Griffin is doing this? You don’t…only the coach knows if this QB is doing the other things as the leader to this offense. Again, you bring up dropped passes…boo hoo, cry me river. That happens all the time, and you just move on. A lineman misses a block…boo hoo…cry me river. That happens all the time. It’s up the the QB to figure out what is going on out there and make the necessary adjustments at the line of scrimmage, or talk to the coach, which actually may be the issue. COMMUNICATION, or lack there of. There is no picture I’m missing, because I can see it for myself on the football field. As for the rhythm you speak of, that is kind of funny….I see a good rhythm when a different QB enters the game. So what am I missing here? Development!!!! He is in his 4th year, what else is there to develop? I want to see him progress from last year. I’m not interested in a Andrew Luck type of progress, but progress in terms of him looking more and more confident with this offense. I’m still waiting…..

  7. troylok - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    I think there is a crying need for another tight end to step up. Obviously, the team didn’t think a pair of the young tight ends in camp were ready so they traded for the San Francisco tight end, but they need another guy unless their long term plan is to run with two tight ends and use Compton as the blocking tight end. Even in that scenario, I would think they might want to hold on to another guy just because of Reed’s injury history. So, one of the tight ends needs to separate from the pack.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM

      You’re right and Hamm seems to be that guy. Carrier is a pass catching TE also but should help on special teams. Carrier shows really good speed for his size but which TE will do take the blocking role? Compton is not a passing threat so he only helps on obvious run situations.

    • ET - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:52 AM

      I wouldn’t get down on Hamm or Dixon just yet. Seems like Scot is trying to round up as many prospects as possible to see who sticks. A 5th round conditional seems fair for Carrier, who seemed to be a fan favorite in SF.

  8. wvredskins - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Questions about Derek Carrier being able to catch? Watch this and this will answer your question.

    • kenlinkins - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:41 AM

      Something I once heard from a QB “Hey Dude, it doesn’t hurt any less if you drop the ball, so you might as well hang on to it”!

  9. straitouttacharleston - Aug 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    HTTR

  10. bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    This is the MOST ASININE thread! It’s BOTH the O-line AND Robert’s response to the pressure.

    Skulb, there was no time. Holding on the ball too long? That’s not why he was hit. Specific movement in the pocket compounded with the line’s blunders. Multiple folks have pasted Keim’s espn link with time until hit/throw which you apparently didn’t read or discarded it altogether. Every time the throw is under three seconds – most of the hits under two. In addition he states what Robert could’ve done to avoid the pressure. I doubt had Colt been back there instead of Griffin, it wouldn’t have looked much different from Colt’s game against St. Louis. Had Cousins been back there, I suspect he would’ve moved well enough in the pocket to avoid the big hit but I’m not sure what would’ve happened with the ball. Let’s face it, Cousins is MUCH better at avoiding the sack. Would’ve he thrown an interception? No way of knowing. The point is that ROBERT had an opportunity to show the growth that he made in getting rid of the ball on time and his improved pocket presence. On the later, he failed. Straight up. We could blame the line as some have but the opportunity was there for Robert to slide and avoid pressure. The two real sacks (not the fumbled run) he moved the wrong way in the pocket and therefore didn’t get rid of the ball and the first one was a fumble that was missed by the refs. If he slides right he likely avoids the sack but even if he did get sacked you could then say his pocket presence is improving. The other passes, he showed improvement on getting the ball out faster but once again his pocket presence failed him as he didn’t sense the pressure and got hit as he threw it. Other quarterbacks – the Rodgers, Mannings, and Bradys – have shown the ability to make the subtle steps in the pocket to avoid such hits. Is Robert there yet? Hell, no. But you learn by doing it wrong first then seeing how to correct it. Now, watch Stafford’s sack? Does that remind you of anyone? Makes a couple of reads, senses pressure, tucks and runs into more pressure. Sacked from what started as a clean pocket. The Redskins had to blitz to get the pressure. None of Griffin’s sacks occurred on a blitz. That is why guys like Kurt Warner ‘blame’ the O-line but let’s not assume this is any kind of vindication for Griffin.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM

      Right on except I though there were two blitzes in the first series. The second pass attempt by a safety and the third pass attempt looked like a delayed blitze by the LB. Maybe those two were stunts but regardless I totally agree on your assessment on RG3. A well balanced analysis. Why others don’t at least somewhat follow this viewpoint? That’s the $64,000 question.

      • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:01 PM

        Detroit did blitz, just not on the two sacks. I’ll have to double check about the second but both sacks started with linemen getting rolled (bull rushed) into the QB. The first, Scherff; the second Smith. These are one-on-ones you can’t lose.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 3:28 PM

          Yes they are. But Griffin should not have been where he was when he took those sacks. Seriously; he did not move so much as an inch after the snaps. And when he does remember to move, the pass is either very slow (4 seconds on the completion vs the Browns in the last series) or the ball is inaccurate (Most of the others). Some people here just look at the sacks and blame the line without really looking at the plays; or in the case of Tim they blame the line for anything that happens before the game is even played. Forget that Griffin was partly to blame for both those sacks and entirely to blame for the third one. But outside of those two plays it was also bad. The appropriate time to get rid of the ball comes and goes and down he goes. Over and over and over again. And that has to do with dropbacks and formations. If you´re taking the snap at scrimmage and you don´t do a dropback then you will get pressure in 2 seconds. And you can do that, but only if you make a quick pass or get out of the way of the pressure, which was obviously what Gruden & Company were trying to have Griffin do vs Detroit.
          Unlike his wild-eyed apologetics here I have actually timed the pressure in the Detroit game and it came at 2 seconds on both sacks, when Griffin stood pat after getting the ball, and at 2,5-3 seconds when he remembered the dropback. This is NORMAL in the NFL. You have to move after the snap or receive it in pistol or shotgun to gain some additional time. When you´re ten inches behind the line there´s a short way to get there and no time to react if and when the line fails in protection. And the line was always going to struggle against Detroit. Anyone who weren´t aware of that before the game must not have been paying attention.

        • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM

          Skulb, you sound like Tim’s bizarro-world opposite WHEN it comes to TIME to throw. I’ve timed it myself and John Keim has a piece on the four letter where he’s done the same thing. Since he has no dog in the fight, I’ll take his times. No rationale person will say that what Griffin faced in terms of pressure and time until pressure was NORMAL Thursday night. Now, I don’t have a problem with what your saying about how he handles this pressure – there we are in agreement.

          http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/19189/blame-spread-around-on-rough-passing-night-by-redskins-qb-rg-iii

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:19 PM

          Two seconds give or take on both sacks. Just time them yourself. And because he did not drop back and did not move two seconds is when you´d expect pressure. You can´t expect the linemen to close shop completely on every snap even if they aren´t bad.

        • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:37 PM

          Like I said. I’ve timed them. Two seconds until the sack. He does move – albeit the wrong way. Yes, I do not expect your first round draft pick to get rolled like the drink cart on a flight to Tokyo into the QB. The same goes for whoever plays left tackle. Now, I also expect the QB to move better in such circumstances. A blitz with five or six rushers, your QB knows he’s got to get the ball out faster. A four man rush where protection breaks down at the snap, that’s not on the QB. Could’ve the QB bailed out the line? Yes. But now who’s expecting too much? When in the last two years have we seen Griffin do that? And if that is the only criteria for who starts, then it’s Cousins. But, alas, it is not.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 4:53 PM

          Right! But I´m not actually arguing with you, but the Eeevil O-Lineists and the Eeeevil Grudenists posting on this blog.
          When their initial position is no blame on Griffin and all the blame on either the line or Gruden I just have to react to it because it is patently ridiculous based on the actual video footage available from the game.
          He should have moved, whether the play called for it or not. Either that or he should have thrown the ball immediately; read the field > pass. No thinking; just throw.
          Of course Scherff and Smith were terrible on the two sack plays, and a few other ones as well. But it still took two seconds for the defenders to get to Griffin. And on a quick pass 2 seconds should be enough. So my take is that both plays were meant to be quick passes but weren´t quick passes. Why else take the snap at scrimmage and not drop back? And that´s on Griffin at 2 seconds, end of story and no matter how badly the line was doing.
          And the funny thing I that we wouldn´t even be discussing these plays in such detail if it hadn´t been for the outrageous statements certain people here are making, which forces the rest of us to contradict them.

        • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 5:33 PM

          “So my take is that both plays were meant to be quick passes but weren´t quick passes.” I don’t think those were designed quick passes and with no blitz coming there isn’t a hot receiver. Still, he should know where the receivers are supposed to be and chuck it toward one but ten rows up the stands.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 5:35 PM

          But if they weren´t designed as quick passes, why no dropback? What was he supposed to do, stand behind his impenetrable offensive line in perfect safety while waiting for the field to develop? It doesn´t make much sense to me. It´s either that or he was supposed to do a three-step or a five-step and forgot about it.

        • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 5:56 PM

          I just took another look. The first one Griffin is in shotgun and takes a one-step drop but Scherff is rolled into him before the ball comes out. Scherff gets there about the same time as Griffin plants. Scherff and his man are blocking the throwing window. Yes, this is a quick throw but no way to throw on time and no reason to expect your guard in your lap. He can however slide right and then throw. The second one is a play action pass (2 and 12) where Smith meets Griffin once again at the top of his drop. Again, if Griffin slides right he may avoid the rush to make a throw. This is not a quick throw, probably a deep throw – looks like a seven step drop. On the third there are three quick outlets well short of the first down that he ignores before he tries to make the heroic play.

        • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:18 PM

          “Seven step drop”

          But he doesn´t do any dropback on that play.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:44 PM

      I blame the Oline and the play calling.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:47 PM

      Bang I was at the game and haven’t seen any video of the game. If you have any links to when he should have side stepped please share the link because what I saw was a QB getting swarmed with little to no timeto throw just like what I saw last year.

      • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:13 PM

        Tim, I’ve still got the game on DVR so that’s what I’ve been using. Below’s a link but from NFL.com. This is where Scherff gets on skates to Giffin’s lap. Virtually no time but he could have slid right instead of turning his back on the defense and turning into the also beat left tackle.
        http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015082051/2015/PRE2/lions@redskins#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000513769&tab=videos

    • ET - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:51 PM

      Well stated.

      I’m decidedly down on Griffin after his last performance, but the OL was atrocious while Robert was on the field. No way it’s all on Griffin. Willie Smith should be cut on the basis of his performance; he was unacceptably bad. Scherff wasn’t good in pass pro, but he is a rookie facing off against the big boys. Better that he takes some lumps now. The QB (whoever it may be) needs the young fellers on the right side to be more consistent.

      Having said that, I do believe that both McCoy and Cousins would’ve handled the defensive pressure better, but that’s just conjecture.

      • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:09 PM

        There’s no way I see Willie Smith making the team. I’ve pretty much agreed with Rich’s 53-man predictions up until now.

  11. 226thebeatdontstop - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    I still don’t understand Grudens play calling with RG3 ,he needs to be in shotgun,or pistol utilizing those schemes to set up the pass…Standing like a statue in the pocket is ridiculous??? Roll outs and bootlegs I don’t get it…Something is going on if he isn’t hurt how does a player lose feel for the position he has played his whole life???

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM

      He is Obviously calling 2 different offenses for the 1st and 2nd team. All the Plays/formations you mentioned were ran with the 2nd team. I’m calling B.S. on his play calling. I hope he doesn’t continue with this.

      • Skulb - Aug 24, 2015 at 3:31 PM

        This line of argumentation is just terribly embarrassing for you Tim.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:14 PM

          It’s the truth. He has bin calling mostly straight dropbacks for the 1st team with barely any deviation from that and a bootlegs, play action, pistol, shotgun, for the backups. I’m not the only one seeing this.

  12. Steven Morrow - Aug 24, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    This is a prediction, the Redskins will only win four games this season. Because we have no head coach except the one in the front office.

  13. xskulldog - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    EMBARRASING! Offensive Line, QB, Offensive Line Coach, Head Coach, Owner….CIRCUS! Completely and absolutely fed-up.

    This organization is in total disarray with no immediate help in sight. I thought Scot was going to help, but his services will take a few years to show up on the field.

    Glad I cancelled the Direct TV Game Plan. Waste of time watching these bums try to play football. Once I see some improvement on the field and on the scoreboard, I might start watching some games. But until then, these bums are DONE!

    Good Luck watching and writing about these bums because that is about all they are good for. The really stink on the football field. FOUR WINS might be a bit high for these bums.

    • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:53 PM

      If you can get past Larry Michael, I recommend the radio broadcast.

    • warpath1 - Aug 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM

      I doesn’t really matter to me how bad they might seem. I still go into every game thinking we will turn it around and do well. I’m a fan of the Redskins when they are good and when they are bad. I’ll have another glass of koolaide on sat night and expect us to beat the Ravens. HTTR

      • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 2:41 PM

        No need for that Koolaid against the Ravens. We are great at preseason games. The question is about the first team. The Ravens were horrible against Philly 30-0 after three quarters and there was Joe Flacco and Matt Schaub yukking it up on the sideline like two frat boys. (It’s preseason and they’re a perennial playoff team; no need to take it serious.) But I get where you’re coming from. Any given Sunday, any team can beat another team. And every Sunday, I see a possibility for a victory. Satisfied to ecstatic when we win; problem solving mode when we lose.

  14. Trey Gregory - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    So does Houston Bates have an honest to god shot of making this team? Also, is he really showing that much potential? I’m going to have to go back and watch him closer because he hasn’t even been on my radar until after game 2. This team needs better quality linebackers, but more so in the middle. We seem pretty set at OLB for the moment, that’s why I ask. Between Murphy, Smith, Kerrigan, and Gilette… how many other spots can we dedicate to OLB

    • Trey Gregory - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:29 PM

      Sorry, hit post too early…

      I mean, is Bates honestly pushing Jeffcoat? If not, wouldn’t it be wise to pickup another ILB off waivers after final cuts? It just seems, to me, that he would have to be REALLY promising to warrant a spot on the final 53 with all the depth we now have at OLB. I know his ability to play special teams matters a lot in this too. Something else I’ll have to go back and watch because I didn’t take note. But it’s so hard to tell in preseason. Would love to hear from someone who watched in camp how Bates looked on ST.

    • bangkokben - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:50 PM

      My answer is no. But what do I know? I’m basing my opinion on what he did when with the big boys. He was the OLB who lost contain on McCown’s TD pass. One thing is to lose contain but another thing is to apply ZERO pressure and then lose contain. So he’s got some sacks in garbage time. Good for him. Jeffcoat still looks more explosive on the edge and I’d take that. I haven’t noticed any explosion. What I’ve noticed is that he is a good football player making plays against bad football players. What can he do in special teams? To me Bates reminds me of Gabe Miller. (Oh yeah, that guy.) Would you rather have Bates as a superfluous OLB or Golston on the D-line? Me? I’d take the experience and the reliability. Another interesting thing in the mix is Will Compton. He’s coming back from injury, so how does he look? If he looks iffy, maybe that helps Bates. I gotta think that they are competing for special teams linebacker with the edge going to Compton. I hardly think Compton is a lock to make this team but haven’t really noticed anyone on the inside make noise. I know folks like Plummer. Spaight, Riley, and Robinson are locks. Is Compton still a lock over Plummer? What helps Bates is the lack of depth inside. God forbid we lose Perry Riley. Did I actually just say that? I think you get what I’m saying make that double for Keenan Robinson. (Knocking on all surfaces looking for wood.)

    • ET - Aug 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM

      They may keep four or five at OLB, but seems like four is the general consensus (from Rich and others). There’s also a slim chance they call Smith a lineman and still keep four OLBs. In any scenario, at least one good prospect doesn’t make the final cut. I’m a Jeffcoat fan, but not sure the numbers work in his favor. Bates seems more likely to sneak through to the practice squad, though. If Jeffcoat is pink-slipped, I think he’ll be claimed off waivers by another team. Strong competition in a position group? It’s a nice problem to have.

  15. Donnie - Aug 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    Jay Gruden should have been fired the minute the clock struck 0 in week 17 last season. I’m not a huge Griffin fan but it’s tough to watch anyone be repeatedly thrown to the wolves by their own HC. I don’t know what Scott is thinking keeping Gruden around, maybe he just didn’t want to upset the apple cart immediately. My guess is after this season both Gruden and Griffin are gone.

  16. obxskins - Aug 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    I have held off jumping on RG3..still will with strain from doing so…OL sucked against the Lions..point blank…but I have seen, as you guys have too, Russell Wilson,move around when his line suck and either hung in to make a nice throw or run or what have ya…he has not had world beaters for wr’s either…now has a great TE…so every comment, for most part, one can tell if the commentor is pro or anti RG3….so lets let this play out…but if he does not get any better blocking there no way..NO WAY…one can completely blame RG3….with that being said…RG3, the rope is getting shorter every time you take the field my man!

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM

      I actually wish RG3 would QB like Wilson but understand Wilson doesn’t play a pocket like what RG3 is trying to adjust to. Wilson is too short to use a pro set pocket. Wilsons game is read options, play action, and rollouts. Wilson with a great running game and defense doesn’t throw as often as most QBs. I think his situation is very different than RG3

      • obxskins - Aug 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM

        I respect your view..but I was trying to say when Wilsons line doesn’t do its job, Wilson does do his..both are suppose to be able to scramble..one has it mastered and ours looks lost…maybe gun shy or something..I do feel Gruden is calling different when other 2 are in there..he may not be but it sure looks like it from afar! Thanks for responding #HTTR!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 25, 2015 at 6:17 PM

          You’re right that Wilson reacts and improvises better than RG3. He always has in the NFL. Wilson also scrambles better. Even back during the heat of 2012 I’d tell friends RG3 needs to watch how Russell moves around.

        • abanig - Aug 25, 2015 at 9:32 PM

          This is true, Griffin does need to learn to not take as many big hits, we’ve all said that since 2012.

          I think Griffin’s main problem over the last year is he’s thinking to much about how to run the offense instead of just naturally playing and he’s gun shy in the pocket.

          These are things he may never get over but the skins should let him start the season to see if he can improve.

  17. jscx3 - Aug 24, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    I think that gruden is gone after season and most likely rg3. Then the gm can get both the guys he wants. One more season to suffer through. I plan on getting through it by watching some players closely. Mainly the younger ones. Those are the players that were picked by the new gm. I think that the d will be fun to watch along with the return game. I have high hope for crowder. Cant wait to see the full starting 11 for the d. Front 7, not that bad. Gallette could be big! By week 5 or 6 o line will gel. Personally i think that griff should get a 4 game leash, not cutting it go to kc. Then all the questions will be answered if kc can do it. If he cant at least it shows that they are not giving up. He cant get it done, play it out and get a draft pick.

  18. TheHogs - Aug 24, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    Reading Skulb’s posts on this board is a chore. If I recall correctly, Griffin didn’t have a sack in his game vs. the Browns. And yet Skulb sought to criticize his play anyway. So of course when Griffin doesn’t play a clean game from the pocket, Skulb conveniently tells everyone about Griffin’s lack of pocket presence. I’m sure if Griffin went 20-21 with 3 TDs/0 INTs/0 sacks vs. the Ravens, Skulb will complain about the 1 incompletion, and say that it’s preseason so the game doesn’t count.

    I know he’s not a Griffin fan, but that is simply absurd.

    • skinsgame - Aug 25, 2015 at 12:30 AM

      “If I recall correctly, Griffin didn’t have a sack in his game vs. the Browns. And yet Skulb sought to criticize his play anyway.”

      Um, yeah. So is it your contention that even when Robert gets a perfectly clean pocket that he still looks below average? Like in the Browns game? If so, good point.

      • TheHogs - Aug 25, 2015 at 1:34 AM

        No. My point is that Skulb seems to dislike Griffin so much that he looks to find any reason to criticize him, even if Griffin actually performs well in areas that Skulb values the most. Skulb types so many detailed posts about sacks that it’s ridiculous, and not so much about other facets of QB play; so you would think that a zero sack game would actually satisfy his standards of QB performance. Instead, he opens up his posts on Griffin after the Browns game with more of the same, long-winded criticisms. There’s inconsistency here.

        • abanig - Aug 25, 2015 at 5:25 PM

          Amen brother

      • abanig - Aug 25, 2015 at 5:32 PM

        It’s because he got hit, obviously when your playing football you’re not supposed to get hit right??? Lol… :-/

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 25, 2015 at 6:44 PM

        Please explain to everyone how as soon as Colt entered again that his mastery in the pocket ended all the OLine protection issues Skins? I’d like to read that interpretation again. I just wish I could see it your way from the replay of the game.

        • abanig - Aug 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM

          Pretty simple. Griffin went out and then so did all the starting defensive players for the Browns & Lions.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 25, 2015 at 6:52 PM

        No one reported RG3s performance as below average in Cleveland. Only one that can’t follow the game would.

        • skinsgame - Aug 25, 2015 at 11:28 PM

          Right. Well, I guess you can hang your hat on all the points he figures out how to lead the team to. Oh, wait…

        • abanig - Aug 26, 2015 at 5:49 AM

          The only qb who led the team well last year was Colt McCoy and that’s why Gruden wanted Colt to start the rest of the season after he got the big wins against Tenn & Dallas because the team was showing momentum and they were rallying around Colt’s first leadership.

        • TheHogs - Aug 25, 2015 at 11:44 PM

          Except using points scored by an offense is hardly the best way to assess QB performance. Knowledgeable NFL fans know this.

        • abanig - Aug 26, 2015 at 5:41 AM

          Do you judge dropped touchdown passes?

          Everyone with 1/2 a brain knows Griffin Is struggling mentally in the pocket and he needs his Wrs to make a few plays for him downfield. When that happens, Griffin plays well and the Redskins have a chance at winning just how they beat Phila last December.

          Pierre Garcon’s drop against the Browns was a killer for Griffin’s confidence, just like Garcon’s drop against Minnesota that hit him right in the hands was a confidence killer for Griffin in that game.

          If Garçon catches each pass, I think we’re referring to those two plays and how they were great plays and showed Griffin can still execute from the pocket when given just a little more time but since Garçon dropped those passes, they’re erased from people’s memory and seen as an incompletion stat on Griffin’s final stat line.

          Vikings game in 2014 would have been: 19/28, 291 yds, 2 tds, 1 int and the Redskins would have won that game in Griffin’s first game back off the ankle injury.

          Browns game would have been: 5/7, 90 yards, 1 TD

          Do you know how much drops like that kill a young qbs confidence?

          Well, I’ll tell you those big drops have an imense affect on Griffin and his confidence. Griffin is totally a confidence qb. If he hits a few easy passes early, quick hitters, screens and some 5 yard passes and gets a few first downs then he’s confident for the rest of the game – see Saints game 2012, see Vikings, Chargers & Bears games 2013, see Giants and Eagles games 2014.

          The key to his success as a qb is really that simple.

  19. abanig - Aug 25, 2015 at 5:24 PM

    Practice? YOU TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE?? These guys don’t need to practice well – many by you’re reporting are practicing well – they need to show up and make plays in the game!

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