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Redskins practice report, Day 12: A strong day for Forbath

Aug 10, 2015, 6:43 PM EDT


RICHMOND—The Redskins returned to Richmond and so did the rain. There was some pretty steady rainfall for about the first half of practice but it tapered off for the latter part of the session. Here are my observations.

Robert Griffin III had an up and down day. In fact, it probably was more down than up. His first pass attempt of the day came as he was moving to his right and it was about a three-quarters overhand delivery. Griffin might have had WR Pierre Garçon on the sideline but the pass was off the mark, giving the receiver no chance. A few plays later, Garçon beat CB DeAngelo Hall on a crossing pattern and Griffin’s pass was on the money. For most of the day, he was on the money with his feet set and throwing a short pattern. Later in some simulated game situations he missed his first two, overthrowing Ryan Grant and leading Evan Spencer by too much over the middle. He finally nailed one, a dart to Andre Roberts.

Joe Barry was getting on OLB Preston Smith during a run blocking drill, using salty language not suitable for this site. The rookie was getting moved off of the ball and Barry was trying to get him to use the proper technique to get loose. Smith wasn’t the only front seven defender struggling; despite the fact that the drill strongly favors the defense since they know what’s coming the offensive line did pretty well in the drill.

Colt McCoy worked with the second unit, Kirk Cousins with the third. On defense, the Redskins finally had their starting cornerbacks, Chris Culliver and DeAngelo Hall, back on the field together.

—Cousins has been pretty good at avoiding interceptions compared to how he performed in training camp last year but he threw a bad one today. He rolled to his left and then threw back to the right. Safety Kyshoen Jarrett tracked the ball from the moment it left the QB’s hand and easily picked it off. A bad decision and bad throw by Cousins, no two ways about it.

—Starting RT Morgan Moses had a tough time with OLB Trent Murphy during one on one pass blocking drills. The two second-year players squared off three times and Murphy won all three matchups. All Moses could muster on the third try was a shove that Murphy easily beat.

—Moses and Preston Smith squared off twice. On the first snap Smith got around Moses, forcing the offensive lineman to reach out and hold. The second time Moses just stonewalled Smith, whose feet kept moving but the rookie wasn’t going anywhere.

—With RB Matt Jones out with a minor knee issue, Chris Thompson got some additional work. He is learning to be a more patient runner, relying on more than just his speed to pick up yardage. Jones did take part in some individual drills.

—There were some apparently minor injuries suffered by two offensive starters. OL Brandon Scherff rolled his ankle on a running play and TE Niles Paul suffered a shoulder injury and left the field with athletic trainer Larry Hess. We will provide updates when they are available.

Kai Forbath has a tough time kicking field goals on Saturday, missing two of five from usually makeable range, so Jay Gruden gave him another shot today. He was much better, going four for four from 34, 36, 43, and 45 yards. A couple of his kicks were no doubters, traveling far over the net that extends to the top of the goal posts and going right down the middle. Ty Long, the other kicker in camp, also boomed some but he went wide left with one from 40 yards.

  1. abanig - Aug 10, 2015 at 7:18 PM

    My bouy!!! :-) Suck it! Lol ;)

  2. bangkokben - Aug 10, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    This preseason, Griffin’s pattern seems to be that he his “up and down” on the first day after a day off. He has got to find rhythm faster.

  3. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Aug 10, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Here’s hoping Moses gets it together by the opener. Too.

  4. goback2rfk - Aug 10, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    Need some big stuff from Jordan Reed this year. Break out year. 1000+ yards. I know RG3 can find him open. Lets see what this season will bring. They look better on paper now what about the field.

  5. skinsgame - Aug 11, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    if practice is any indicator, it looks like it will be a rough start to the season for the Redskins. I still see them putting it together just in time to close the regular season at 14-2 and win the Super Bowl 66-0 over the Patriots. So, for those of you who are as pessimistic about the early season as I am, I see light at the end of the tunnel. Hail.

  6. skinsgame - Aug 11, 2015 at 12:11 AM

    I’d also like to add that, in spite of the karate/judo/martial-arts guy being on the training staff payroll, the team is still suffering a lot of injuries. Either the team is just more physical and injuries are a result of hard hitting practices or, the routines he’s got them in don’t appear to be working.

    • troylok - Aug 11, 2015 at 5:57 AM

      They’ve had only two major injuries. A lot of these other injuries are minor stuff that wouldn’t keep a player out of the game during the regular season. What I like about the new-look Redskins is the hamstring issues seem to be few and far between where it seems like that was a recurring theme in years’ past.

    • abanig - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM

      I used to be a runner, and I can tell you that football players don’t stretch right, or enough and they don’t take it seriously.

      If you’re not getting great stretches in before practices and games and aren’t flexible and your muscles aren’t warm, you’re bound to strain and tear muscles.

      • ET - Aug 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM

        I’d add that the amount of weight training that pro football players do *should* be counterbalanced with a high level of stretching. At least we have some players (Hatcher and Kerrigan come to mind) that’ve gotten really into yoga. That kind of flexibility training should be mandatory, IMO, whether it’s yoga or something else.

        • abanig - Aug 11, 2015 at 12:47 PM

          Definitely, anything they can do that way as well, but stretching on game day for at least a half hour and getting/keeping their muscles warm before games is imperative.

    • wonderfulfaison - Aug 11, 2015 at 8:24 AM

      The martial arts guy, Joe Kim, is there to help defenders learn better hand placement. He neither works with the medical staff nor does he diagnose and help players get through injuries. Who are you actually talking about because it can’t be Joe Kim?

      • skinsgame - Aug 12, 2015 at 6:08 AM

        There was an article about him I read a while back and he was featured in a video I watched in Ryan Kerrigan. Guess those guys got it wrong too. Hopefully somebody tells Kerrigan. Maybe you can, since you have access to this guy as well.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:29 AM

      The Patriots had 24 players miss practice yesterday with “injuries”. A lot of these problems wouldn’t even be mentioned during the regular season. Players all over the league a pulling and spraining various muscles and ligaments. It’s not a uniquely Redskins problem.

      • abanig - Aug 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM

        Any word on Niles Paul? I’m a bit worried that he wouldn’t discuss anything with media. Usually when that’s the case, it’s not good news.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM

      I’m amazed many don’t see the correlation between increase volume in injuries and practices with increased contacts in pads. Anyone who played organized football must recall the adjustment it takes returning to running and hitting in pads. At the NFL level, it is probably far more intense. Stretching is important but it can be over emphasized and it also depends on the muscle.

      Strength building muscles is even more critical. Even if guys are in the weight room, it doesn’t mean they are building strength in areas where you have the most injuries like the hamstring and especially the groin. It also doesn’t help that many players don’t work on strength conditioning year round but instead wait up until the start of mini camps to get back into conditioning.

      • Rich Tandler - Aug 12, 2015 at 5:54 AM

        Any player who shows up to OTAs or minicamp to get in shape is going to be an ex player very soon. The players parking lot at Redskins Park is usually full in late February and March. Those who spend their offseason in their hometowns work out there. These guys go constantly.

        • abanig - Aug 12, 2015 at 7:22 AM

          So, Terrence Knighton won’t be a redskin?

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 12, 2015 at 9:43 AM

          Rich, If there is an attendance sheet on those players showing up in February and March then it’d be great to see. Seriously though some guys just put in more effort and time conditioning than others. Example: Paul who if I recall has only had recent issues with concussions where Reed has had various issues in the same period. Would you be willing to state Reed puts in as much time as Paul conditioning and preparing himself for the next season or even during the season?

          I know there is no perfect recipe in avoiding injuries but you have guys like Jerry Rice and Art Monk who were serious about year round conditioning. They minimized their own injuries for a reason more that is more than just luck.

  7. madness83 - Aug 11, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Was at the practice yesterday, and yes – their stretching routine is pretty poor and half-hearted. Hope they’re warming up before getting out there, but I doubt that’s the case. Not sure I’d blame the warmup completely on all pulled muscles, but also as a runner, it wasn’t something that necessarily made sure they’re warmed up before getting straight to the drills they were doing. A very old school warmup routine.

    And yes, that was some salty language. Was sitting on the hill right where it went on, and there was lots of laughing in the fans when it was used. Yes, my kids could hear it and understand it. (Why is he talking like that? I thought it’s bad! – Yup, I don’t want to hear you say that. But sometimes…)

    I will say this on the run drill – the defense doesn’t know which way the play is called. There’s someone behind the line that points right or left right before the snap. The offensive line and back can see it, but the defense cannot. Archives

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