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Redskins training camp practice report, Day 3

Aug 1, 2015, 6:53 PM EDT

Mahina camp

RICHMOND—The Redskins took the field in pads for the first time in front of the largest crowd of the week. Here are some of the highlights of the practice.

—As they have every day so far, the Redskins started out with special teams. Among those returning punts were Rashad Ross, Trey Williams, Andre Roberts, and Jamison Crowder.

—I thought the rotation they used at the key punt team personal protector job was interesting. Niles Paul, who had the job last year, split snaps with two guys who are likely to be starting at safety, Dashon Goldson and Jeron Johnson. It’s an important spot and it’s not unusual for teams to have a front-line player handling it.

—Robert Griffin III was on target in some one-on-one coverage drills. On one play Quinton Dunbar shook off Chris Culliver on an out pattern and Griffith hit him on the sideline. He also hit Garcon on a deep down and in. That makes twice in two days that Dunbar has managed to get free from high-dollar free agent Culliver.

—A bit later in team drills Griffin felt some pressure, scrambled to his left, reset and completed a short pass to Alfred Morris. A year ago in camp it is likely that Griffin would either have been frozen and taken a sack or would have taken off running.

—We saw some good power running by Matt Jones right up the gut. There appeared to be no hole but Jones burrowed for about 10 yards.

—I think that the defense is trying to send a message to Jones. He was a little too rough in the no-pads OTAs. Perry Riley and Kyshoen Jarrett both gave Jones good shots.

—Kirk Cousins isn’t known for operating on the move but he did it nicely on one play. After a play fake he rolled to his right and hit Andre Roberts with a strike for a good gain.

—On Thursday, Silas Redd made a nice run but it was ruined when Duke Ihenacho punched the ball out from behind. Today Redd made another nice run and Ihenacho again tried to knock the ball out. This time, though, Redd was aware of the defender and had the ball in his left arm, away from Ihenacho. His punches were futile.

—Terrace Knighton blew through Kory Lichtensteiger on a one-on-one pass protection drill. It should be noted that these drills favor the defense. Even given that, Steiger will need help against big, athletic nose tackles. Fortunately there aren’t too many like Knighton out there.

—In the latter part of practice, it looked like things were getting ragged as Griffin took a sack and then the offense had to re-huddle after going to the line. But Griffin made up for it with a sharp pass to Roberts.

—Jamison Crowder told me yesterday that his game is based on quickness more than on speed. That may be true but he sure looked like one of the fastest players on the field when he took an end around handoff and zipped around left side for a nice chunk of yardage.

—Team drills finished off with a two-minute drill. Griffin we five for five, all fairly short passes. He did take a sack when Ryan Kerrigan and Keenan Robinson got into the backfield.

—At the end of practice the entire team has been lining up along the sideline from end zone to end zone for some stretching and then a run across the field. I suppose it should be called more of a jog and many players are nearly walking the last five yards or so. It’s not a great look.

  1. mr.moneylover - Aug 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    This is were jay gruden suppose to jump in and get on players asses theres no way the players should be ragged or dragging on only the third day of practice…Im starting to think jay gruden is not a good leader of men…same thing happen last year players did what they want and excepted average play on the field…jay gruden will be gone if he dont take a strong enough stance on this team…I already think hes scared to take the play calling duties away from sean mcvay because what coach you know in the NFL says there will be three play callers this year…if this really happen this season is a lost even before it begins…I think we need a strong minded head coach because we already got a strong minded GM in scot m. If we can get somebody like scot m. Who can coach this team this team will be a beast because the talent is there but its a question mark on do we have the head coach who can bring it all together

    • redskins life - Aug 1, 2015 at 7:44 PM

      Correct Im with you 100%

    • Brian - Aug 1, 2015 at 10:07 PM

      Scott M? Really?..what you been smoking?

    • renhoekk2 - Aug 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM

      Who do you have in mind for coach? Fans act like Gruden took over a 10 win team and ran into the ground. In case you forgot the Skins tried the experienced “tough-minded coach”. They hired “My way or the highway” Shanahan. How did that work out? Everyone blames coaches. Some coaches are in over their heads. Jim Zorn comes to mind, Mike Singletary in SF had no business being a head coach, so yes it can happen. The truth is the Skins have been bad because of lack of talent and depth on the roster. I hope the fact that Kerrigan was the only first round draft pick to sign a second contract with the team since 2000 didn’t escape you.. If you go through the Skins team rosters in the last 15 years you will see very few draft picks in any round signed a second contract with the team. Until recently Gholston was the only one since like 2007 I think. They never had a real GM who could evaluate talent and build a team before. They have a saying in the NFL “It’s about the Jimmy and Joes, not the X’s and O’s. Winning in the NFL is about the guys on the field not the coaching staffs. Why do you think the same 5-10 college programs contend for the championship every year? Maybe because they are the ones who always get the top HS recruits every year? Talent wins in football 9 times out of 10.

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 2, 2015 at 2:24 PM

      @brian ….yes like scot m..and I dont smoke…scot m. Have a plan he knows how to complete his plan and he dont care who likes it or not…I just dont think jay gruden has a plan in place for this team and if he do he gotta make sure these players dont do they job half ass

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 2, 2015 at 2:41 PM

      @renhoekk2 …scot m. Said this team is way better then the one he took over in san Francisco and its true but redskins never had a head coach thats been tough…last year it was just bad he tried to run a power scheme with players who wasnt in shape to run that kinda scheme and that goes back to my point I dont think jay gruden came here with a plan like scot m. Did…scot m. Plan is to turn the redskins into a dynasty and know how to make that happen I dont think jay gruden came to the redskins with that same mind set…no way the team should be dragging in anyway on the third day if I was head coach they would be some tough bastards because if I find a player dragging like they out of shape ill say stop right now give me a 100 push ups and you dont leave until they are complete…thats the kinda coach jay gruden need to be instead of talking to players take control we in training camp they should know better by now this not OTAs

  2. mr.moneylover - Aug 1, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Wr Quinton Dunbar making a name for his self so far in camp if he keeps it up coaches will probably keep him on the 53 man roster…its really a question mark after p.garcon and Djax plus they looking for WR with size as well really wanna see how the WR group pans out so far media been wrong about training camp predictions I guess thats why they called predictions huh ??? Lol…I think its gonna be a few unaware cuts made but that’s normal if you want your team to get better…its always a undrafted player who step up and fight for a backup of starting job ask Seattle Seahawks most players on that team is late round draft picks or undrafted players

    • berniebernard666 - Aug 1, 2015 at 9:51 PM

      Dunbar has 4.4 speed and he is also pretty quick at 6’2. He may be a keeper as a 6th receiver if he can play special teams as well. He would be the Redskins tallest wideout.

    • mr.moneylover - Aug 2, 2015 at 1:14 AM

      @berniebarnard I agree he was the one who made that sharp cut who made breeland get off balance and injured himself thank god breeland is young because if he was 30+ its possible he could’ve tore his ACL fallin the way he did…back to Quinton Dunbar tho his college numbers are good he came from the same school matt jones came from hes a Florida gator…but from what I read he put up school records but then I think he had a fallout and was bench but scot m. Way is if the talent is there ima take the risk on the guy…andre Roberts might lose his job because if evan spencer staying and if Quinton Dunbar keep doing what hes doing then I think scot m. Will pull the trigger on letting andre roberts go no matter what cap hit we take from his m. preached to others in the front office I dont care about contracts I care about putting the best 53 guys together and the front office brought in…look at what the saints did by letting junior g. Go they taking a big cap hit next year but they front office dont care they want to put the best 53 guys together…but hey im glad we got junior G. Its been way to long and finally ryan kerrigan got some help on the other side byebye orackho

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    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:06 AM

      It seems almost every TC there is some great unknown WR making noise only to find him off the roster of 53. You have to dig some to get reports on Quinton. Below is a write up where he stated he ran a 4.33 at the NFL Super Regional Combine. Speed is a deadly thing at WR and certainly his height is refreshing at 6.2.

      This little write up is from a local site during the pro day down there:
      “Quinton Dunbar – Netted himself a couple second looks with a nice 40-yard dash time of 4.47 to go along with a 9’10” broad jump. Unfortunately for Dunbar, this wide receiver class is very deep. He’s another undrafted practice squad guy, if you ask me.”

      This one below is from Keim:
      “He caught 111 passes for 1,500 yards and eight touchdowns during his career at Florida. He has good height (6-foot-2) but needed to get stronger. That was his focus this offseason and he wrote in a diary for Fox Sports that he had added around 11 pounds (as of a couple months ago he said he weighed “203, 204”). Dunbar was benched this past season because of dropped passes. As a junior, Dunbar caught 39 passes for 528 yards, but those numbers dropped to 21 catches and 353 yards as a senior. Dunbar does have good speed, having run the 40-yard dash at his pro day in 4.40 seconds. And he sometimes tweets things he might want to think twice about.”

      Some reports had Quinton ranked as the #70 (ouch!) ranked WR coming into the draft. However, I seriously doubt many of these reports go into much analysis on players not in considered top 15 in their respected position.

      If he can’t participate and produce some in a special teams then have to do some outrageously incredible things at WR. Players like these rarely make the first cut. I don’t see any way possible he beats out Roberts.

      If anything he looks to be a player to at least watch in preseason games.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM

      You’re making a huge, huge leap from a couple of good plays in practice to making the 53-man roster. I suggest tapping the brakes.

  3. goback2rfk - Aug 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Kerrigan and gallete are going to tear it up. smash mouth style. gallete was such a nice pick up. hellz yeh

  4. troylok - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Lichtensteiger has always had trouble with big nose tackles and that’s probably why they would like to get bigger at that position. I wonder how Leribeus handles big guys when he is in at center. If he is better at not getting run over, maybe they start him when they play against 3-4 defenses.

  5. kenlinkins - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Rich: What are the rules for video’s and pictures of training camp for media types and fans? We all saw the video of Breedland getting hurt and I wonder if anyone has a video or picture of the guys who were walking the last 5 yards that “wasn’t a great look”? Are there unwritten rules like in baseball (the old “don’t show me up rule”) or is everything fair game to photo and report on? I understand that everything at practice is recorded and wonder if the coach will address this with the team or use that when grading guys and assigning reps / plays in preseason games. Why would guys think it is ok to dog it with so many jobs up for grabs?

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:13 AM

      There is no shooting video from the end of individual/position drills (Breeland was hurt during the position drill portion) until the players are walking off the field. Not unwritten rules, written rules and you can lose your press credential if you violate them.

      • kenlinkins - Aug 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM

        Follow up question: Has anyone every lost their press credentials?

  6. Skulb - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Looks like Duke is specializing in stripping so far in TC. Any idea if it`s because he`s good at it or the RBs are not paying attention Rich?

  7. redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    Rich, please if you can report on how Galette fairs one-on-one against Trent Williams. I here TW is just dominating guys so far and if I recall in the past only Orakpo managed to have any success working on him during TC.

    • Rich Tandler - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      I will when Galette participates fully in practice. He has not yet. Archives

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