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Redskins training camp practice report, Day 1

Jul 30, 2015, 6:44 PM EDT

RG3 handoff camp

RICHMOND—The Redskins took the field for their first full training camp practice with warm temperatures and high humidity. The CBA prohibits practicing in pads until the players have had three days to get acclimated so they wore just helmets and shorts today.

—Special teams drills were up first. Tress Way is unchallenged as the team’s punter and he showed why with several booming kicks.

—During a defensive line drill, Terrance Knighton took a moment to pose for a picture with a fan who was permitted to be on the sidelines. I’m not sure if that says anything good about his focus during practice. We’ll see if it’s more than a one-time thing.

—The defensive line practiced knocking the ball out of the carrier’s arm. Robb Akey was emphasizing doing it before the runner knows you’re there. Have never seen that emphasis.

—After that the linemen went to hit the two-man sled. These drills required for the sled to stay in one place. To do this they needed two large men and several cinder blocks on the back end of the sled.

—In the first session of 11 on 11 drills Colt McCoy had two nice passes for touchdowns. One was to fullback Jordan Campbell, who beat LB Martrell Spaight. The other was to TE Je’Ron Hamm, who beat S Kyshoen Jarrett. Both throws covered about 30 yards and were thrown with touch and accuracy.

—On Robert Griffin’s first pass he dropped back, hesitated a half beat, and threw sidearm and off target. There still is work to do.

—Even through undrafted rookie RB Trey Williams is listed at 5-7, 195 he doesn’t look small on the field. He finished off one run with a nice stiff arm. I’m not sure if there is room for him on this roster but he’s worth keeping an eye on.

—We nearly had our first scuffle of camp. Jordan Reed didn’t like how DeAngelo Hall bumped into him after a reception. They exchanged words but teammates intervened before the altercation got physical.

—Griffin did warm up as practice went on, firing some nice passes. He hit Jamison Crowder downfield with a bullet.

—They went back to special teams and with one group rookie DL Preston Smith was lined up as the second man in from the right end. At 6-5, 270 he would be scary to see running downfield towards a potential blocker. I will keep an eye on this when preseason games start.

—Even the fifth overall pick in the draft is subject to discipline. Brandon Scherff jumped early on one play and ran a lap around the field to do penance. That was interesting but I’ll be really impressed if I see Trent Williams do it.

—Kirk Cousins did not have a good day. In seven on seven drills he was tipping off his passes, looking straight at his primary receiver before the snap. A few of us in the media were calling out who the ball was going to before the snap and we were right way more often than not. Later in full team drills, he threw an interception to Jarrett over the middle. There was no indication why he threw the pass where he did.

  1. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    At last it begins! Fine report.
    ~

  2. coolestfrood - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    Good for Terrance Knighton! If a fan is somehow on the sidelines, then nothing wrong with taking a picture with the Pot Roast!

    • 56waysto... - Jul 30, 2015 at 11:07 PM

      Yep…if he wasn’t actively participating in the drill then there’s no problem. Sometimes writers need things to liven up a story. Manufacturing a lil controversy where there was none unfortunately is the choice de rigor nowadays smh…

  3. skinsrock - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    The starting QB position has been there for the taking and Cousins is still making rookie mistakes. Of course, it’s only day 1, but reading a defense and keeping the defense honest with his eyes should of been his number one priority in the offseason. It doesn’t sound good if he hasn’t improved that aspect of his game.

  4. mr.moneylover - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Ppl just gotta face the fact that kirk cousins is trash its sad when you got the media calling out who the ball going too…I told everybody Dhall not going nowhere jay gruden love Dhall and what he can do david amerson havent shown enough to get his starting job back so unless David amerson flat out impress jay gruden expect Dhall to start week 1. I told everybody jay gruden trust david amerson as a starter last year and he failed badly now hes gota uphill battle to get his starting job back he better hope he can out play breeland….I herd Jamison Crowder practice with the starters today and andre roberts struggle today dropping balls…andre Roberts gonna find his self in jay gruden dog house if he dont step up his game and when I say dog house I mean he will be jay gruden third option to play in the slot while Jamison Crowder and ryan grant will be ahead of him…Jamison crowder already seem like he took the starting job right now he better step up his game and fast too

    • Trey Gregory - Jul 30, 2015 at 8:23 PM

      I don’t think anybody expected Amerson to start over Hall if Hall is healthy. I think people were thinking Culliver would be the #1 with Breeland and Hall competing for the #2. If Breeland improves from last year, he should probably be used more than just a nickelback.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jul 30, 2015 at 9:22 PM

        I expect to see the same starting lineup. Unless there is an injury, it’s very doubtful Hall starts on either side but maybe at the nickle spot. As much as I like Hall; I want to see Amerson prove doubters wrong from last season. He’s young, long, fast, and talented enough. Amerson just needs to work hard and stay focused. With Culliver, Breeland, Amerson, and Hall hitting on all cylinders; the team could become a much better backfield than anyone anticipated this season.

        • ET - Jul 31, 2015 at 11:15 AM

          If all four of those CBs are healthy and focused, it could be a really tough secondary. Having DHall back and Culliver onboard is a blessing for the younger CBs. Hopefully Amerson can put his (mental) issues behind him.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 31, 2015 at 3:16 PM

          I can’t argue with any of that. I would love to see Amerson prove the doubters wrong too. He has the size and athleticism to thrive. Sometimes players have down years and sometimes it takes some guys longer to learn how to prepare. I’m not ready to write Amerson off at all. I do, however, believe that a healthy Hall would start over Amerson at this point. Not that there’s not enough snaps for everyone to get one the field. Also, Breeland’s suspension adds to this. It’s only one game, but now it’s something they have to keep an eye on in case he can’t get his stuff together. I have really high hopes for Breeland, but I don’t want to get too high on him until he proves he can do it for more than a year, and more consistently. I think he will, but you never know. Same goes for Amerson. We potentially have two very good young corners. I’m all for getting them more snaps to help them further develop. We’re not making a super bowl push in 2015. Now is the time to help players develop.

    • rtcwon - Jul 31, 2015 at 2:25 PM

      Grant doesn’t play slot, he’s a X or Z

  5. charley42 - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    I can’t believe that any pro QB still stares down his receiver – that habit should be out of any starting college QB. SMH!

  6. mr.moneylover - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    They wasnt in pads today so practice will get more intense as training camp goes on plus players still excited to get training camp started so its like a fresh feeling so I have no problem with pot roast…plus hes one of those guys who jokes on the sideline but when hes on the field on sundays hes very serious and I feel bad for the other team

  7. goback2rfk - Jul 30, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    They are as rusty as an old steel bucket

  8. mr.moneylover - Jul 30, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Im glad only 3,341 fans showed up today…the fans sent a message that they tired of the hype we want to see the action because we tired of the drama and lost seasons we want to win and win now…they should continue to send the send the message cause redskins got it loud and clear today with how many fans showed up today compared to last year training camp

  9. abanig - Jul 30, 2015 at 10:34 PM

    Good ole’ Kirk. Man it’s amazing how he’s lost his confidence over the past two seasons. It’s really sad. :-(

    • bangkokben - Jul 30, 2015 at 11:03 PM

      The only thing that I think that can justify the report is that he was working with a lot of inexperienced guys and that was a signal to them that they were the primary. Still doesn’t make sense and I hope he gets it together. Although, I never thought that we could trade him I was holding on to a little hope that we could get something at the end of this training camp.

      • abanig - Jul 30, 2015 at 11:39 PM

        The issue is that the last two years Kirk has had these same issues, he is not progressing.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jul 31, 2015 at 12:17 AM

      Ive bin saying since the begining of 2012 that Cousins wasn’t a good QB. Dig through the articles on this blog and CSN Washington.

      • Skulb - Jul 31, 2015 at 7:21 AM

        Yes but you don`t base any of what you say on stats Tim.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jul 31, 2015 at 9:10 AM

          I’ve posted all kinds of stats. To back up everything I’ve commented on. I have yet to see you post anything but your opinion

        • abanig - Jul 31, 2015 at 9:29 AM

          Yeah, it’s more the eyeball test. Cousins doesn’t pass the eyeball test in the 4th quarter of games.

        • Skulb - Jul 31, 2015 at 9:48 AM

          Eyeball schmeyeball! If we don`t try to argue based on stats it`s just emotional waffle. Right now Colt McCoy is the best QB on the team. Colt McCoy for President!

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jul 31, 2015 at 12:39 PM

          Well if as a fan you’ve watched every game Cousins plays you don’t need stats to ascertain he is erratic and has a propensity for throwing interceptions. Now does that make Cousins a bad QB or a QB that needs more development? Since he has been mostly a career backup, it’s hard to even find a decent sample size on games to know for sure what type of QB he is capable of becoming regardless if it is done by the old eyeball test or by looking at stats. In Peyton Manning first season, he had a QB rating of 71.2 with 28 interceptions and 26 touchdowns. The team ended the season 3-13. I wonder how many called Manning a bust during those times.

        • abanig - Jul 31, 2015 at 11:43 PM

          Put Kirk’s 11 games of 2013 & 2014 and he had 2,564 yds, 14 tds, 16 ints and 72.4 rtg.

          If you combine how much he played in 2013 & 14 it was nearly an entire season. He was regressing, not improving.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Aug 1, 2015 at 3:24 PM

          You need to stretch it out to two seasons to even try to gather what it still not even a normal single QB season. Sorry I don’t think that is good sampling of his performance. Those were two different seasons by two different coaching staffs. Heck, every QB but Colt regressed under Gruden’s system last season and even he didn’t thrive playing under it. If he was being critiqued by an elite coach during that time then I think you have a good point. Kirk’s biggest issue for determining progression or regression is lack of opportunity for starting as QB. Some irony between yours and my last two comments is that those numbers closely reflect Payton Manning. Manning actually did’t achieve a QB rating of over 100 until his 8 season in the NFL. However Indy didn’t give up on him. Look I don’t think Kirk is close to Payton Manning but I do feel the ones here critiquing his game are not tacking in to account other far more significant factors. The best chance for Kirk is moving on to another team under a sound organization willing to give him a solid opportunity. I think St. Louis is one that comes to mind that would be a good place for him right now.

      • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jul 31, 2015 at 12:27 PM

        So Tim, you made such statements after his first start at Cleveland against the 8th rank pass defense? you then continued stating this after he saved our playoff hopes with a game winning touchdown against a very physical Raven defense? I’m interested to know what stats or arguments you were making against Cousins during those times.

      • rtcwon - Jul 31, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        I thought I was the only one saying Cousins won’t be in the league this year.

        My analysis is tape based; he looks on time because he guesses where to throw based on pre snap read. There is now enough tape, every team knows this and easily baits him into picks. He CAN NOT be “coached up” or developed.

        • Trey Gregory - Jul 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM

          Some interesting thoughts on Cousins. But I’ll admit it, I was very high on him after the games RedskinsName… was talking about. Even after Jacksonville last year, there was hope. I haven’t thought he was a bum since 2012, but I certainly don’t believe he’s the guy now. I don’t know if he can be developed or not, but some of his INTs were just perplexing. Saying he threw the ball based of pre snap reads actually makes a ton of sense for those INTs. That, and the fact he’s still staring down receivers, even pre snap, tells me he hasn’t developed from college at all.

  10. jermz53 - Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    If you get shown up by Colt McCoy (SMH)…who’s a BUM! then what does that say about our QB situation? Is it not enough to have one or two backups but we have to enter the season with THREE?! Even the starter has backup pedigree written all over him!

    • goback2rfk - Jul 30, 2015 at 11:35 PM

      There is no QB situation. RG3 is the future QB for at least the next 2 seasons and the foreseeable future no matter the on field production. They need to get that running game going so he can ease back into some play action passes. Give RG some easy slants and dump offs to get him going in a groove.
      I think we will see some development in RG’s game this year. Either way I still see us winning no more than 6 games this year. I am thinking 5 – 11. It would be great if they could pull off something like 7 – 9.

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jul 31, 2015 at 12:24 PM

      It’s just day one of training camp in shorts. I think instead of rushing to judgement on the QB situation for 2015, allow at least a few days of practice in pads.

  11. brucefan1 - Jul 31, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Just reading thru these comments…no one thinks that they are putting WAY too much importance on what happened on the FIRST day of training camp — WITHOUT pads to boot?! LOL!

  12. redskinsnameisheretostay - Jul 31, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Well it’s one day after the first TC and already one player out for the 1st game. Breeland is suspended possession of weed.

  13. weneedlinemen42 - Aug 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    ” Later in full team drills, he threw an interception to Jarrett over the middle. There was no indication why he threw the pass where he did.”

    Cousins in a nutshell. A lot of his interceptions come of those sort of passes, wild throws that sail way over receivers or just end up flying off to an inexplicable part of the secondary.

    He launches at least couple in every game. Take the Jaguars game for instance. A couple of those wild passes were still there. The only thing that stopped them from turning into interceptions is that one of the Jaguar DBs dropped one that hit him squarely in the hands, and the other wild pass landed in acres of empty space, no where near a player from either team.

    It’s happened all the way through his Redskins career and presumably was the cause of most of his college interceptions as well.

    • abanig - Aug 1, 2015 at 1:11 PM

      It was. Anyone who watched him at MSU knew he was a gunslinger often at the worst times and had a lot of ints .

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