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Need to Know: Redskins’ Robinson enters camp as established starter

Jul 28, 2015, 5:15 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Tuesday, July 28, two days before the Washington Redskins start training camp.

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Five thoughts on the state of the Redskins with training camp just a couple of days away:

—I’m going to be very interested in seeing Trey Williams running in pads in training camp and in games with full contact in the preseason. It’s not that hard for a smaller guy with speed to look pretty good in shorts and helmets during OTAs and minicamp. It’s another step for a guy like Williams (5-7, 195) to get it going when the going gets tougher. He’s very much a long shot to make the roster but if he can survive getting hit the coaching staff could become very interested.

—It’s rather amazing that a year ago we really didn’t know if Keenan Robinson could fill the shoes of the retired London Fletcher at Mike linebacker. Going into training camp the position is no longer a question mark as Robinson was very good calling the defensive signals and making plays. Mike Shanahan is rightfully criticized for missing on many mid-round draft picks but he has to be given credit for taking Robinson in the fourth in 2012. There is plenty of talk about new contracts for Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Williams but Robinson is another 2016 free agent who needs a new deal.

—When Robinson was the heir apparent to Fletcher in 2012, he got onto the field in some situations (Robinson missed 2013 with an injury). That was an exception to how Jim Haslett usually did things. His philosophy was to play his defensive back seven starters nearly 100 percent of the snaps. I wonder if Martrell Spaight, who could be Perry Riley’s replacement, will get some snaps in situations this year. Will Compton, who also could replace Riley at some point, played very sparingly in the games he did not start last year. It will be interesting to see how much of a look Joe Barry will give Spaight and Compton.

—Speaking of new deals, my man JP Finlay has an interesting post on a possible future contract for Robert Griffin III. Joe Theismann thinks he’ll be in $100 million territory, former agent Joel Corry disagrees. It’s hard to say before the season unfolds but if he does end up playing well enough for the Redskins to want to extend him I think that most fans will find the announced numbers to be shockingly high. But how much the deal is really worth, of course, will depend on true guarantees and other details.

—According to the weather forecasters in Richmond, the Redskins should be able to avoid afternoon thunderstorms for at least the first several days of practice. They took a chance by moving the main practice of the day from 8:30 a.m. last year to 3 p.m. this year. With no practice bubble in Richmond and a propensity for thunderstorms to develop in the afternoon there Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen will both be counting the days that they get by without having to cancel a full practice.

Timeline

—Former Redskins Pro Bowl offensive tackle Chris Samuels was born on this date in 1977.

—It’s been 212 days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 47 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

Days until: Redskins training camp starts 2; Preseason opener @ Browns 16; final cuts 39

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  1. colorofmyskinz - Jul 28, 2015 at 5:51 AM

    Robinson proved himself for sure. The only thing that concerns me is that his injury was a torn peck. All the clinical data shows that with athletes, when there is one torn peck there will be multiple torn pecks. Orackpo is case in point. Let’s hope robinsons tear was not as bad as racks and that the repair was better.

  2. colorofmyskinz - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:24 AM

    RBs:
    Thompson is a huge risk to place on the roster. What will we learn by seeing him make it through 4 preseason games, without him taking full load of the 3rd back? Nothing. His issue is not performance, it is hardiness and ability to stay on the field, the same thing he struggled with in college. Why even waste a spot on the 90 man?

    I would drop him now and focus on Trey vs Redd vs Brown. Watching Thompson during 4 preseason games will tell us nothing about if he can last 16 during regular season. We should pick up another TE in FA. I think bengals have one, and drop Thompson.

    • shermanp79 - Jul 28, 2015 at 8:57 AM

      He actually hasn’t made it through 4 Pre Season games. I do agree we need an upgrade at TE but Greshem signed with Cardinals. Who is Brown??Must be someone I missed signing. UDFA?? Bottom line Thompson has speed and talent, he is young and it makes no sense to cut him now.He really hasn’t preformed much either aside from the bit in final games last year.

    • renhoekk2 - Jul 28, 2015 at 10:06 AM

      Agree. Guys generally don’t get healthier the longer they play. More often then not the injuries pile up. That’s not to say a guy can’t come back from an injury and be productive, but once you start getting two or three different injuries that cause you to miss games, it’s tougher to stay healthy.

    • ET - Jul 28, 2015 at 1:57 PM

      I’m not convinced Thompson will make the final 53, but his talent certainly warrants a spot on the 90 player roster. If he doesn’t make it, the position group is still pretty strong. The Skins have bigger worries, don’t they?

      • bangkokben - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM

        Spot on. His talent warrants a spot on the 90 man roster. Can’t tell me that he’s taking some diamond-in-the-rough’s spot on a 90-man roster. When I prioritize the Redskins’ list of things to do, replacing Chris Thompson comes right around 15th.

        • skinsgame - Jul 29, 2015 at 12:32 AM

          I have that at 14th. You need to check your stuff. I’m afraid you’re off your game a bit.

  3. hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Until we have good enough coaches who can plug in 2nd, 3rd and even 4th back-up players and still get them to perform up to the challenge, we will remain a mediocre team. I’m tired of always worrying about the starters getting injured! The only reason why good teams stay competitive even after multiple starters go down is because they have good coaches who mastered this plug and play mentality, and this all goes to the coaches teaching ability. I think (hope) that Scott McLaughin recognizes that and is working toward establishing such a franchise, but I don’t think that will happen with the current coach.

    • renhoekk2 - Jul 28, 2015 at 10:28 AM

      Who are these great teaching coaches? I’m sure most of them happen to have a great QB on their roster? Belichick? Tomlin? McCarthy, Carroll? A great QB can mask a lot of problems. From 2008-10 the Colts went 36-12. Manning misses the 2011 season and they win 2 games. Did the coaches forget how to coach for one season? The next 2 seasons with Andrew Luck they have back to back 11 win seasons. You don’t think that the Skins would have won more than 4 games last year with Brady or Rodgers at QB? You think the Seahawks and Pats are playing each other in the Super Bowls with Griffin and McCoy at QB? There isn’t hidden knowledge in the NFL that only a handful of coaching savants possess. I’m sure some coaches are a little better than others, but they aren’t turning average college players into pro bowlers with secret coaching techniques. You give coaches way too much credit.

      • troylok - Jul 28, 2015 at 10:51 AM

        I agree with you up to a point, but some coaches do make a difference with certain players. They seem to be able to plug into their brains and get the maximum potential out of them. If you can motivate a player to elevate their game in the training room, on the practice field, etc., then they are better players and yes, the coach has a lot to do with that. Naturally, they can’t make a 98 pound weakling into a 330 pound stud nose tackle, but they can get the most out of the raw materials they are given. Examples?

        Pete Carroll coaching Marshawn Lynch – Lynch was so lowly considered in Buffalo they traded him away for a fourth round pick.

        Dick Vermeil coaching Trent Green – Green stopped by Redskins park for a cup of coffee but ended up playing very well for Vermeil.

        Joe Gibbs coaching Mark Rypien – Does anyone even remember what Rypien did after he left the Redskins?

        • hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM

          Thank you. I guess any point can be argued for or against, all you need it to look at somethings, and ignore others! His example of Belichick as being just lucky to have a good QB ignores the fact that he took a HIGH SCHOOL QB in Cassle and won 11 games. And yes, I believe under Gruden, and the rest of the Redskins of 2014 (including the coaches), even Brady would’ve failed just as badly.as Griffin did.

        • Skulb - Jul 29, 2015 at 8:54 AM

          @hk2000

          “Brady would’ve failed just as badly.as Griffin did”

          This is just priceless comedy man. Brady gets rid of the ball so fast it doesn`t matter how you try to pressure him; you`re not getting to him anyway. Griffin is more than a second slower releasing the ball on passing plays. That`s why he takes so many sacks. So to say that Brady would have stood there like a salt pillar taking all the sacks Griffin did is just off the wall, and you can only say this because you don`t realize the TTP difference between those two QBs last season. And take away all the sacks from the QB position last season and that`s 4-6 more wins at least for 8-8 to 12-4. Probably enough for PO all on its own. And then add in that he was also more accurate than either three Skins QBs and you have easy PO with Brady as QB last season.

      • hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM

        You’re wrong on multiple levels. I’m not going to debate everything you said point by point- frankly I don’t care. But there are two sides to every argument. The reason you don’t see anything special about those coaches you mentioned is because they actually keep their thoughts to themselves. Armatures like Gruden stand on the podium and try to explain in precise detail what they’re thinking, what they’re planning and proceed to provide justification for every failure to exonerate themselves from any blame and to continue on implementing what little they know.

        • voice4thefans - Jul 28, 2015 at 11:52 AM

          Armatures like Gruden , Really what makes him a Armature Mr know it all

        • hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 12:01 PM

          Oh I don’t know, his childish rants about his players, his explaining away everything that went wrong as bad execution, and his transparent personality- leaders NEED to be devious- honesty removes any element of surprise, and sure enough, even those he like Gruden will tell you he was so predictable. And to say that I’m Mr know it all is just ridiculous, show me any fan posting here who does not come across as Mr know it all.

        • ET - Jul 28, 2015 at 1:53 PM

          Armature?

        • wvredskins - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:22 PM

          Your crazy to think that if we had Brady last year that the Redskins would have failed. If we had Brady last year we would have AT LEAST went to the playoffs. Now Im not agreeing with Ren about coaching, but a future hof/ established QB like Rodgers, or Brady would def be a huge difference then the way RG3/Cousins/McCoy played. I cant believe you said “even Brady would’ve failed just as badly as Griffin did.” lol im sorry thats just funny. But your entitled to your opinion.

        • hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 8:50 PM

          If you think Griffin was bad under pressure, watch either of the Giants Pats superbowls. I stand by it 100 %. QBs are 100% dependent on play calls and O Line. If Brady played on the 2014 Redskins (The same exact OL, Coaches, and play calls), not only he would’ve been as bad but probably even worse than Griffin!!!

        • skinsgame - Jul 29, 2015 at 12:44 AM

          To base an argument solely on an unprovable fact is just silly. It’s silly. And, dear little bitty baby Jesus, Griffin has been incredibly bad under pressure. O.O Wowsers! He’s been so bad at it, he’ll scramble right into it just to make everyone else look bad. That’s not a supposition or dreamt scenario either. Well, the part where I say he does it to make others look bad isn’t exactly provable but, you get my drift.

  4. hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Rich, I’m sure you’ll have a thousand and one articles about Griffin during camp, but could you please pay a little more attention to the coaching staff- especially the STs, QB and DB coaches and give us your impression as to any creativity in teaching the guys their philosophy, not just their media statements, but actual on the field signs of improvement in their drills.
    Thanks in advance.

    • Rich Tandler - Jul 28, 2015 at 8:39 AM

      If you’ve followed my camp coverage the last five years, I always talk about unusual drills. I drove some crazy last year with Instagram videos of Brian Baker’s pass rushing drills. So, yes, there will be plenty of that. I have never been an all RG3 all the time writer. Since I’ll be posting about five or six times a day, there will be plenty of coverage of everything.

      • hk2000 - Jul 28, 2015 at 9:07 AM

        Good enough, I’ll be following your posts. And no, I don’t recall following last years camp, I actually was suckered in to the hype of the new coach- like most fans- and kinda assumed everything was going to be great.
        Thanks.

      • shermanp79 - Jul 28, 2015 at 9:07 AM

        Can you ask RG3 directly what he has done this offseason to improve??Maybe he has addressed it but he obviously has plenty to fix.

        • bangkokben - Jul 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM

          In order to get an answer on what Griffin did to improve, one needs to ask it very delicately and not suggest that he has tons of things to fix nor suggest that he needs to improve in anything for that matter, although everyone including Griffin knows he needs improvement. In the past, he has always avoided addressing the areas that need improving. I know this has annoyed some fans but imagine if he was specific. Then he would have endless follow ups on whether his mechanics are where they need to be or if now knows the proper depth to his drops. I’m hoping the VR stuff really helps.

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