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Need to Know: Could the Redskins be better than we think?

Jun 22, 2015, 5:01 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Monday, June 22, 38 days before the Washington Redskins start training camp.

Will the Redskins be better than we think?

The Redskins are coming off of back to back seasons with a total of seven wins. They have an unproven head coach, an uncertain quarterback situation, and lines on both sides of the ball that have undergone major changes.

Many in the media look at this situation and place the team somewhere in the lower twenties in their power rankings and figure that an improvement of a game or two is the likely outcome for the 2015 season

I was in that group before minicamp started. After seeing the practices at Redskins Park and assessing the new pieces to the puzzle the Redskins obtained over the offseason I’m starting to think that they might be better than I thought they were. Not a whole lot better. Not deep in the playoffs better. But maybe 8-8 better, or something like that.

What did I see that I liked? For one thing, offensive line coach Bill Callahan. While I disagree with those who say that the Redskins’ O-line was awful last year, there is no question that it wasn’t particularly strong, either. Seeing Callahan keeping his players out well after the end of practice to work on details makes me think that the line could grow into one of the stronger units on the team. And the addition of Brandon Scherff obviously will help as well. There will be a learning curve for him but he will get it figured out sooner rather than later.

I also liked what I saw out of Terrance Knighton. He’s not just another fat guy nicknamed Pot Roast. He is amazingly quick for his size and he will be that disruptive force that is needed in the middle of the defense. Cornerback Chris Culliver also is a major upgrade.

This team should rank higher than 19th in rushing yards gained this year. Alfred Morris is going into his contract year and while he said that he doesn’t think about it you know it has to be motivating him to some extent. And even if money doesn’t give Morris an extra kick, the presence of Matt Jones will. The rookie will get some snaps and carries. But if the team runs more, which is likely if the defense takes a step or two up, Jones won’t take much away from Morris, if anything.

While I don’t see Robert Griffin III getting back to his 2012 form, I like his prospects for this year a bit better after minicamp. He has a lot more to prove but I’ve gone from seeing the odds being against him having a successful 2015 season to it being a coin toss. That’s far from ideal and not necessarily encouraging but improvement is still improvement.

I look at Jay Gruden the same way. At times last year he appeared to be in over his head. With his rookie season behind him, it looks like Gruden has a better handle on things. The addition of a quarterbacks coach in Matt Cavanaugh is one tangible move that will help him out considerably this year. As with Griffin, I’m not sure that Gruden can succeed but after seeing him the past few weeks the chances that he can seem brighter.

What is holding me back from believing that the Redskins can be considerably better this year is how bad they were last year. They were outscored by an average of 8.6 points per game in 2014, the 29th worst scoring margin in the NFL. The team has a long way to go to get to break even. Washington could be a lot better and still not have a much better record.

There is plenty of time to revise my prediction before the season starts. And while I think things are looking up I’ll hold off for right now.

Timeline

—It’s been 176 days since the Redskins played a game. It will be 83 days until they play the Dolphins at FedEx Field.

Days until: Redskins training camp starts 38; Preseason opener @ Browns 52; final cuts 75

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  1. skinsgame - Jun 22, 2015 at 6:20 AM

    3rd down is the key. No matter who is at QB, he has to move the chains. And on defense, force punts. That down and the respective rate of conversions will tell us all we need to know about talent, depth, and coaching. It will be 12-4 with a narrow NFC Championship loss in Green Bay. Bank on it. OR, 5-11 with Griffin benched by mid October and Gruden losing control of the team with fans calling for Callahan to replace him.

    • nathansworldorder - Jun 22, 2015 at 7:01 AM

      12-4 with a narrow loss to Green Bay? Smh. Keep sipping on that kook aid

      • wonderfulfaison - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:29 AM

        I think the Skins go 7-9. 8-8 is a possibility.

      • reach4succeed - Jun 22, 2015 at 2:49 PM

        Believe!!!!!!! Just Believe before it happens!!!!!! And it can be done.

    • Trey Gregory - Jun 23, 2015 at 12:59 AM

      Even in a best case scenario, I don’t see this team going 12-4 or to the NFC championship game. That’s just nutty buddy. There are a lot of positive things going on with this team, but it will take another 3 to 4 years of offseasons like this before they can even have a shot at the NFC championship game.

      • bangkokben - Jun 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM

        Agreed about this year – that would take every move the Redskins made this year to come up better than expectated, Griffin returning to 2012 impact, Gruden getting every coach’s challenge reversed, and some help from the other teams in the division.

        That being said it is still in the realm of possibility but certainly not plausible. As for your statement: “it will take another 3 to 4 years of offseasons like this…” Heck no! This isn’t baseball or the NBA where every season builds on the previous season. Dynasty is an outlier. Teams rise and fall every year in and out of the playoffs. If you get in the playoffs you have a chance to get to the Championship.

      • bangkokben - Jun 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM

        Here’s the NFC championship history with the winners and losers and their previous season’s win total. This is since the latest realignment and current scheduling.

        Season Winner (rank) Wins* Loser Wins*
        2003–04 Carolina Panthers (1) 7 Philadelphia Eagles 12
        2004–05 Philadelphia Eagles (2) 12 Atlanta Falcons 5
        2005–06 Seattle Seahawks (1) 9 Carolina Panthers 7
        2006–07 Chicago Bears (2) 11 New Orleans Saints 3
        2007–08 New York Giants (4) 8 Green Bay Packers 8
        2008–09 Arizona Cardinals (1) 8 Philadelphia Eagles 8
        2009–10 New Orleans Saints (1) 8 Minnesota Vikings 10
        2010–11 Green Bay Packers (3) 11 Chicago Bears 7
        2011–12 New York Giants (5) 10 San Francisco 49ers 6
        2012–13 San Francisco 49ers (6) 13 Atlanta Falcons 10
        2013–14 Seattle Seahawks (2) 11 San Francisco 49ers 11.5
        2014–15 Seattle Seahawks (3) 13 Green Bay Packers 8.5

        *wins the previous season
        Half a win indicates a tie

        For NFC Champions, the average games won the previous year is 10.08 wins. For runners-up it is 8. So if the Redskins can get to eight to ten wins this year it is plausible that they can play in the January, 2017 NFC Championship.

        • skinsgame - Jun 24, 2015 at 12:57 AM

          Ben, you are awesome. I was actually just blowing smoke. It’s the offseason and my heart wants the Skins to be a playoff contender so much, but I realize they’re likely looking at 6-7 wins tops. I just like to goof around. After reading your post here though, I am getting hopeful…

        • bangkokben - Jun 24, 2015 at 10:37 AM

          Thanks. Keep the hope. Remember if you’re ever being chased by a Tiger you don’t have to outrun the Tiger just some poor fat sucker. Same with Redskins. This year they don’t have to be Seattle, New England, Pittsburgh, Baltimore or Green Bay but they have to not be as bad as the Jets, Rams, Buccaneers, Falcons, & Bears, and win the home division games. They’ll lose some they had won early in the fourth quarter and they’ll win some nobody gives them a chance but in the end they’ll be close to .500 and then provided on how they get there we can dream about 2016.

  2. colmac69 - Jun 22, 2015 at 8:29 AM

    With additions to defense I b disappointed if that unit isnt better than last yr….d-line on paper is considerably improved….secondary looks better as well (wouldnt b hard it has to b said) esp at corner if amerson shows his first yr promise and hall gets back from his injs(we could have four gd corners)…..again key will b getting pressure on qb like always….

    Offense will b on rgiii shoulders……if he performs relatively well then with weapons on offense we should put pts on board….new line coach could b best move of offseason….last yrs line was far from worst in league (it collapsed second half season because of poor qb play and pass blocking from te..rbs)…..if we can get onto better dwn and distance situations on 2nd and third dwns and commit to running the ball we could surprise a few people

    If things fall the way we want then potential in team I believe to perhaps push for wildcard and perhaps 8-8..9-7 record? As long as we improve from last yr and going in right direction then I b happy….for first time in yrs we appear to have correct guy in control to lead us forward and thats maybe best move overall

  3. troylok - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Too many question marks and question marks that will raise their heads when injuries start to pile up. People say Callahan might be the best addition of the offseason and I am not ready to dispute that, but if the trainer can keep these guys healthy and strong, he might give Callahan some competition for being the best addition.

  4. kenlinkins - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Well, It seems that even Rich feels something is happening at Redskins Park for the better. Maybe the Redskins in fact did bottom out in 2014 and the new GM can pick enough low hanging fruit to push the Redskins to 8-8. I do want to wait until I see a few preseason games to see how the new parts fit together as all the easy moves have been made (i.e. replace most of the D-Line and D-Backfield, Add a few O-Linemen, draft a pass rusher early, replace DC & some position coach’s, and release most over paid/under performing FA picks ups from year gone by). While there are still some very big question marks (i.e. QB, Head Coach, OC and longer term fixes at key position) the new GM has not panicked and over reached for answers. He seems willing to ride out the storm of things outside his control in year one of his plan and to keep the “firmness” of the plan in place by picking off problems when the benefit tilts his way. He seems to want to build assets (i.e. quality depth) so that he can wheel and deal later. Now we get to see how the football gods feel about the Redskins, injury bug, locker room drama, off site problems, drug test, and the way the ball will bounce in games as we have seen all these things shot down a good off season. BUT the general feeling seems to be the Redskins are on the right track, now we just have to see if they can drive a train without landing on the 6 O’clock news!

  5. timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    I think it mainly depends on how well the Oline Pass Protects (ranked 31st in Pass Protection) and the Play Calling. I’m still skeptical of the Oline. I like that we Drafted Sherff at #5 but feel we should be playing him at Guard and take a look at Baker or Jake Long (if the medical checks out) to play RT. Then let our Guards Battle it out for the LG spot. I would then feel better about the Oline. I haven’t read anything that showed Sherff is able to handle the RT position his rookie year. I would rather see us bring in one of those Vets for a couple years and play to Sherffs strengths and either move him, Moses, or Draft someone next year to take over the RT spot in a yearor 2.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:24 AM

      I also feel if the Coach keeps calling drop back after drop back after drop back after drop back…….. Again this year the opposing team is just gonna tee off like they did last year.

  6. gonavybeatarmy - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    As a season ticket holder who will be on work travel a lot this fall and would like to recoup some of this poor investment my family and I stupidly make each year, 8-8 would be like winning a Super Bowl. But in all honesty, it’s really hard to see more than five wins. And I suspect that before Thanksgiving or Halloween the market for our tickets will be $5.00 each and we’ll be in full coaching search mode and in competition for the worst record and the top pick in the 2016 draft. There are some really good reasons why Las Vegas has the Skins with the worst odds in the NFC. Is there another team in the NFL, with the exception of 2012, that seemingly every year is out of playoff contention by mid-October?

    The team does seemingly have greater talent and depth now over last year and the year before, and the additions of Callahan and Cavanaugh will most likely help. But the talent baseline that their building on is pretty pathetic. And Jay Gruden seemed inept last year.

    I wouldn’t be shocked if the team is better this season but doesn’t improve on its record. Since the hiring of McCloughan I’ve viewed this as a 3-4 year process before the organization becomes a consistent contender, ultimately under a different coaching staff. And this season would more or less be a chance for McCloughan to objectively analyze what he has inherited and the first wave of the players he brought in.

    For the love of God, in a 4-team division it would be nice to finally someday watch meaningful Thanksgiving football involving the Skins.

  7. hk2000 - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    To me, improvement requires a huge step taken by the coach to start acting like a coach, not a spectator- save his analysis of the QB play for the game room not the media room. Spend more time studying other coaches who are good at scheming and in game adjustments.. take another look at that playbook and maybe consult his position coaches on maybe analyzing all the plays in there and get rid of the idiotic ones that require a brick wall in front of the QB for the play to work….. maybe even have the OC come up with his own playbook! and see what he comes up with….. everyone says he’s brilliant and an up and coming football mind, why wait until he proves it on another team, give him a chance now., then of course we need both the defense and special teams to at least get to average, and if that happens, the whole team will be unrecognizable from last year, otherwise, it will be more of the same and another 2 or 3 win season.

  8. warpath1 - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    better parts do not always mean better complete product. If the team comes together as a cohesive TEAM, then the skies the limit. I will withhold expectations until i see how they play together.

  9. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    A substantial improvement depends on Griffin. He’s got to make his reads faster and get rid of the ball. (Ideally, with solid mechanics.)
    ~

    • mr.moneylover - Jun 22, 2015 at 10:16 AM

      Sorry I disagree…it dont only depend on griffen it depend on guys around him do they job… alot of players had miss assignments last year witch made it difficult for Robert Griffin…if RB and TEs can improve in blocking and if the O-line can stop getting push back 5 yards and if the defense can sack the QB and stop giving up the deep passes you will see a big change in this team….the main question is how many of these things they can fix before the season start ???

  10. mr.moneylover - Jun 22, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Its a matter of chemistry…if they communicate on the field on the defense side it will stop the big plays…on offense we just need robert Griffin to play a lil bit better then he did last year because with a better O-line and a better run game we can be a playoff team for sure…I hope it all comes together…I hope jay gruden can adjust his lineup better if he see a player struggling…I hope the coaching is better ….its alot of hope but its not saying it wont happen or cant happen…jay gruden clearly got more weapons then he did last year so let’s see what happens

  11. gurnblanstonreturns - Jun 22, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Ain’t summer time dreamin’ grand? Even you, Rich, are closing your eyes, raising your face to the sun and letting that warmth flood your mind with burgundy and gold dreams. Enjoy it – it won’t last forever.

    But, more seriously, I do believe the Skins will be better because McCloughan’s moves – players and coaches – will provide improved fronts on both sides of the ball and some playmakers for special teams. How many wins does this mean? Who knows. The important thing is to stay on target. I hope the organization – read, Danny Snyder – allows McCloughan’s plan to play out. I look forward to judging the result – whether the Skins are a rock-solid organization set to be consistently competitive for the playoffs and more – as opening day of 2017 approaches.

    McCloughan has initiated the plan quietly, professionally and seemingly successfully. This year is about finding out whether he has his coach and his quarterback.

  12. renhoekk2 - Jun 22, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    I get that Gruden needs to get better. It was his first year as an NFL head coach. He took over a 3-13 mess that has been rotting for years. He did not choose the QB mess he had. He did not choose the defensive players that were dreadful. What were fans expecting? Some act like he took a 12 win team and ran into the ground. Every coaching change is a roll of the dice. Your options are always unproven assistant (Gruden), college HC (Spurrier) or NFL HC retread coming of a few losing seasons (Shanahan). You are not going to get a proven winning NFL coach on top of his game. Bill Belichick is not walking away from NE to coach the Skins because he wants a new challenge in life. John Fox leaving Denver is a once in a generation type of thing. Most coaches don’t get fired after winning 13, 13, and 12 games. If Gruden gets canned after this season you won’t see a HC that you haven’t seen before. Only the name will be different. Although he’ll probably have a better team to coach than some of the others, thanks to McCloughin

    • Trey Gregory - Jun 23, 2015 at 1:10 AM

      I too think people are being too hard on Gruden. Like you said, he took over a bad team. I also think people are confused about coaching and play calling. A lot of us didn’t like the play calling last year, doesn’t mean Gruden is a bad coach and needs to change his way. It maybe just means he needs to improve play calling or hand it off. Either way, he wasn’t exactly calling plays for a Super Bowl contender. I don’t believe for a second that Bill Belichick would have done much better with that roster. Maybe he would have handled some things better, but it was Gruden’s first year. Relax a little everyone

  13. vkapey - Jun 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    This team is going nowhere as long as oft-injured “QB” Rg3 is behind center. 3 years ago… yes 3..he was running a new offense the NFL hadnt seen. D coordinators got some tape and that combined with his complete inability as a self proclaimed pocket passer led to disaster. RG3 makes good players look bad and avg players look worse. He cant throw with timing, has terrible footwork and cant slide. Read that again.., yes… cant slide. No OL can protect such an erratic QB. Dont blame Gruden…his QB couldnt make basic HighSchool QB throws. Defenses focused onthe run and results were as expected. Heck… most of RG3s yards came in meaningless garbage time. Any AVG QB can complete throws against prevent defenses. So why is Rg3 the starter…bc they invested so much into him..NOT because he deserved it. After two destryed ACLs and one year of pocket passer experience…to think he’ll be a competent pocket passer this year who will play all season without injury… is delusional. He’s never played a full season… ever. And unfortunately his teammates suffer and are thrown under the bus publically post game by this genius. He sucks and blames EVERYONE but himself. He’ll last 5 games tops before either injury or poor play benches him. Kirk and Colt… warm up. The sad part is… this team has talent. With those RBs, WRs… the offense should be rolling. People give EVERY excuse for RG3s garbage play but dont do the same for Kirk who actually makes the offense move. He threw lots of ints…so what…so did and does Eli. Ints can be fixed.

    • mr.moneylover - Jun 22, 2015 at 11:55 AM

      It takes time to learn the concepts of dropping back in the pocket and running a west coast system if thought robert Griffin was gonna be a great QB last year then you wrong… mike shanahan set back Robert Griffin progress on bein a pro ready nfl QB…he should be better this year and not to mention alfred morris had his worst year last year as a pro and struggle just as much as robert Griffin did….the whole team struggle it just wasnt rg3…whats your excuse for kirk cousins and he played in a pro ready offense in college but he also struggle just as much then robert Griffin did

      • vkapey - Jun 22, 2015 at 2:23 PM

        ALMO “struggled” (1000 yd season struggle) bc his carries were reduced and the skins offense was one dimensional w Rg3. Defenses planned to stop the run and the OL didnt help. The skins defense didnt help either. As far as Kirk, he threw too many picks, but he got the offense moving and putting up points. The Defense failed and the offense couldnt keep pace. Defense is improved, Offense improved. Either Rg3 flops or floats and this year he has ZERO excuses. Kirk is a better pro style QB. Anyone with eyes knows this. With the new QB coach, better decisions and a better OL will help tremendously.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 22, 2015 at 7:59 PM

          Cousins is Consistent. He Consistently threw interceptions every practice and game last year, He Consistently threw interceptions this off season also and given the chance I’m sure he will Consistently throw interceptions this year.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 23, 2015 at 1:24 AM

          Morris’ yards per carry in 2014 were the worst of his career, just so you know. I love Morris and think he’s great, but there is something in saying he struggled behind that line.

          You’re 100% correct that this is RG3’s last shot and he’s out of excuses though.

      • Cliff - Jun 22, 2015 at 7:00 PM

        U talk of cutting players that don’t produce yet RG is your best QB & U make excuses for him 1- learning new O 2- bad OL 3-bad coaching 4- bad play calling. Your speaking from your heart. Don’t listen 2 me, listen 2 Cooley when he says Robert played so bad I can’t grade the O after Tampa game.He’s the owners favorite. Anyone who truly knows football sees he has along way 2 go. I just want 2 win & I don’t care who’s QB. My son is not on the roster, so play the best man, but if U think RG can improve that much ! Good I hope your right, but stop blaming everyone else stop listening 2 your heart cause he’s your favorite & see the game. HTTR!

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 23, 2015 at 7:57 AM

          So wich one of those 4 things are wrong? 1. It was the first year in that Offense. 2. The Oline was Ranked 31st in Pass Blocking. 3&4. The Coach was caling nothing but dropbacks with little to no bootlegs, shotgun, playaction, pistol, read option, or runs to slow the pass rush. 60% Passes mostly drop backs from under center so the D can tee off on him I think that covers bad Coaching and play calling.

        • bangkokben - Jun 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM

          If you’re going to listen to Cooley, which I do, then shouldn’t you listen to what he says now about Griffin as well? Griffin is good with spread four wide three step drops; still not good with 5 and 7 step drops. Call more spread. Griffin still has the most talent and upside of any quarterback. (this is the mindset of most football people in the organization) So let the preseason play out and see if the the coach and QB can progress. The team around them is better Griffin doesn’t have to be elite for this team to be competitive, just better than last year.

    • brucefan1 - Jun 22, 2015 at 7:15 PM

      Hey, gang… it looks like Walter’s back! LOL!

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:35 PM

      RG3 is the starter because he is the most talented QB on the roster. Cousins throws interceptions every practice.Turnovers will loose you the game every time.

      • vkapey - Jun 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM

        Talented? Talented with what? Speed.. ok… thats number 40 on things important to be a QB in the NFL. Peyton manning is a glacier but there is zero debate as to who is the better QB. What talent does Rg3 have? Throws with timing… no. Solid footwork… no. Sees the field well…no. Reads the defense well…. no. Avoids injury… hell no. Avoids sacks… no. He may be a great athlete and can heave the ball 60 yds but so what. Is he just throwing long bombs to Desean every play? What talent does he have relevant to being a pro qb. Thats a media garbage statement. If you actually think about it…Rg3 is as useless as titts on a bull. Kirk throws ints…fine…but hes got a QB coach now and definately farther along then Rgnobody. Give that guy the same chance you so easily give useless Rg3.

    • Trey Gregory - Jun 23, 2015 at 1:20 AM

      Unless I’m mistaken, RG3 started every game in 2013 until he was benched for the last 5. But not due to injury. The guy really isn’t as injury prone as people make him out to be. He’s had two major injuries (3 if you want to count to the 2012
      Concussion vs ATL). His knee and concussion were from when he was being used as a RB and last year’s ankle dislocation was just kind of a freak injury. Sometimes that stuff happens, even to durable guys.

      Everything else you said about him is fair enough. I may not agree with all of it, but it’s fair until he proves otherwise. But it really drives me nuts when people say he’s injury prone. Because, as a QB and not a RB, he’s really not.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 23, 2015 at 1:47 AM

        You are mistaken. He was held out the last 3 games of 2013 because there was nothing to win and the Coach was hoping to showcase Cousins to garner a high pick. Alas Cousins showed the world what he was and The Media speculated other reasons and some boneheaded fans and media types took their Own Opinion as fact instead of what was Actually Said. RG3 was injured every time eithere in the pocket or scrambling from the rush from the pocket. He was Never injured on a designed run. Another Opinion stated as fact.

        • bangkokben - Jun 23, 2015 at 11:09 AM

          Tim you’re correct in that all three of the injuries happened when Griffin was scrambling and that it was the last three games that he was benched for in 2013. But go right ahead and believe what you want about the benching. Shanahan never felt the need to tell the truth so believe him if you wish. I certainly remember him saying let’s see what Kirk can do and let’s protect Robert from injury. But in no way did he say he was going to showcase Kirk for a higher draft pick. He knew exactly what he had in Cousins and that he himself was on the outs. He was making a personal win-win out of a lose situation. He was showing up Griffin and burning the value of the unknown Cousins. Classic Shanahan. Just as it was no surprise that he didn’t look for work last year so that he could get all $7M owed for (not) coaching 2014. He went for two against Atlanta resulting in losing the game resulting in the Rams getting a higher 2014 pick. Shanahan was an offensive genius but now is a vindictive little man. Good luck finding another owner to give him millions.

  14. mr.moneylover - Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    It all depends on coaching… scot m. has a good resume of building teams and he wont mess up his resume for a coach who struggle to coach all im saying is this year and next year is big for jay gruden if he want to continue to be a head coach in the nfl…I would care if a vet had little success on another team like andre roberts if he dont show up and play big for the redskins I will cut him immediately if I was head coach…if perry cant improve his coverage skills after bein in the NFL for 5 years I will also cut him… I wouldnt keep players all because he played in the nfl years ago this is a business of what have you done for me lately and what have you done to help your team win games…when its all said and done we will see if its really a culture change on whose starting and who get cut scot m. said he dont care about the contract situation the best players will be on the field on the other hand bruce allen and jay gruden do care about the players who got big contracts on team…the question is how much scot m. and jay gruden will disagree when its time to get down to the 53 man roster???? the draft is over the easy part is over with… now its about to get tough and disagreements is bound to happen when its time to cut players and a coach change might happen if scot m. feel that jay gruden is not the best coach to help him turn this organization around…scot m. want the redskins to win so bad because the redskins gave him a second chance to be in the league when nobody else would and just for that he want his team to dominate the league now that might take a little time but thats his goal hes striving for and he wont stop until it happens it all start on the defensive side of the ball witch he feels he already fixed

  15. cowboyhater - Jun 22, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    No way to tell if this team will be better….have to wait till the season begins to see if there has been progress in terms of off season FA pick up’s and the draft, along with the new coaches. It all has to come together at some point, but unfortunately it will take a little time. If I see progress throughout the season, and can see the effort on the field, then I can say this team is better. I don’t care about the wins and loses at this point because this team is not a playoff team yet, and they have to learn how to win. Progress, not regress during the season is key to seeing this team turn around.

  16. Tom - Jun 22, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Unless the QB play is much better, whomever is playing the position, none of the other positive changes will mean much for 2015. Mini camp is not near enough to gage if QB play will improve.

  17. Skulb - Jun 22, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    6-10

  18. Ghh - Jun 22, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    I like this article

  19. bangkokben - Jun 22, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    Best post ever! I’m definitely biased but it’s about time Rich sees it my way – even if it is only a snapshot in June. Still plenty of time to adjust predictions but as it is – right now after mini-camp – all signs are pointing up.

    Even if the coach and quarterback make minimal strides this year, this team will be better because ALL of the other troublesome areas are better and no position is worse off than it was last yearr. O-line: better in the run game at least. D-line: better all around. Secondary: better with more depth on the edges.

    As for all the negative nellies who appreciate the wait and see approach, let’s wait and see. Or you can cast your doubts and negativity and believe that things only stay the same if they’re bad. Every team on the Redskins schedulte including the Patriots has fans that only see the flaws and the worst case scenario. Some of those fans have much better arguments for why their team is worse.

  20. Steven Morrow - Jun 22, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Until , Dan Snyder sells the Redskins they will always be a fight for the basement team. When a player can miss some of the training\ work outs and that is not an issue that tells me alot about the head coach. He is spineless.

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM

      It’s not mandatory

      • hogheadgeez - Jun 22, 2015 at 8:23 PM

        To the uninformed: AlMo’s production INCREASED in games Griffin started.

        • Cliff - Jun 23, 2015 at 7:17 PM

          Listening 2 the 106.7 this am ( I can’t look up all these stats) but their stats & my memory say the O was more productive both yards & points w/ Kirk. He put up 400yrds & 30-40 points on Philly & ST & D blow game. Good solid 2 TD game vs Hawks ( NFC champs) he also had 2 horrendous games – 7 ints. But I watched in disbelief as RG threw check down after check down. Pulled his head down 2 the OL at the 1st hint of pressure . Took wrong drops on 3 & 5 step design. Literally did not throw 2 wide open receivers ( it’s on NFL rewind & my DVR) Robert has a tremendous arm & athleticism but he’s lack in some basic fundamentals & he’s indecisive, he throws off the wrong foot when it’s not necessary ( bad form) you’re right if we go spread 4-5 wide & shotgun & he hits 1st or 2nd read he’s really good but we can’t run that all game & were beefing up 4 a power team now. I agree he’ll do better w/ better personnel but so will others. He was sacked more than twice as much as Kirk & Colt & w/ a healthier roster maybe 3 X as much. I’m done & I feel bad 4 talking so poorly of my beloved Redskins. We’re all family & share the passion even if we disagree on substance we bleed burgundy & gold. I’ve been true since 1973-74 & will be till the spirit horse carries me 2 the creator. HTTR!!

  21. marriannem - Jun 22, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    “While I disagree with those who say that the Redskins’ O-line was awful last year,”

    Stopped reading after that.

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