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Need to Know: Rapid fire—Who will the top three Redskins cornerbacks be in 2015?

Jun 15, 2015, 5:01 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, June 15, one day before the Washington Redskins start minicamp.

Question of the day

A few days a week I’ll give an in-depth answer to a question submitted by a fan on my Twitter feed, via the Real Redskins Facebook page, or in the comments section here. On Twitter address the questions to me at @Rich_TandlerCSN with the #NTK hashtag. There will be a comment thread set up on the Facebook page and if you’re asking your question here, put “for NTK” at the start of the comment.

I’ll also take your Need to Know questions via email. Hit me up with “NTK” in the subject line. Just keep the questions relatively brief, please. 

I didn’t get to the rapid fire this weekend so let’s do it today. During the week I get a lot of good submissions for question of the day that don’t warrant an answer long enough to fill an entire post. So I skim off the best of those and answer them in one post. Here we go:

If Kai Forbath stays healthy, not very good. Of course, Forbath staying healthy has been an issue. He missed three games in 2013 and Way had to handle kickoffs for him for a few games when he was having issues with his leg last year. But when Forbath was healthy, Way went back to just punting. And they want him to continue to focus on punting. Although he has a booming leg and led the league in gross punting average, Way still has a lot of refining to his punting game. I believe that the coaches want him to work on pooch kicking, directional kicking, and other aspects of punting and then look at having him double as the kickoff guy. Barring an emergency (again, certainly a possibility) I’m not looking for him to kickoff until 2016.

The one thing that’s clear is that Chris Culliver will start and may follow the opponent’s best receiver from side to side. So that leaves three players competing for the other two starting spots. David Amerson, DeAngelo Hall, and Bashaud Breeland all have NFL starting experience. During OTAs we’ve seen Breeland paired with Culliver in the regular defense and Amerson coming in for nickel situations and playing on the outside while Breeland moved into the slot. I think Breeland still plays the slot when the season starts and if Hall is physically ready after rehabbing his twice-torn Achilles tendon, he will get the nod on the outside.

I got a lot of questions about Grant so I’ll let this one represent all of them. Grant has been getting additional snaps in the OTA sessions that have been open to the media due to the absence of DeSean Jackson and he has been taking advantage of the situation. His route running is sharp and last week he made a nice catch in the end zone, just getting both feet in along the sideline. I’m not going to predict a breakout season for him but I think he can get some more snaps and improve on his production from last year. Remember that he was a fifth-round pick and he’s not particularly big or fast. It will take him time to master his craft to the point where we can see if he can be a starting caliber receiver. We should start to find out more about his potential in 2016.


Yes, $20 million is a lot at one position but it is manageable. I could see them both staying if the Redskins aren’t paying Robert Griffin III that $16 million option (either via his departure or a new deal with a lower cap number). If the two players account for 2,000 yards of offense combined and keep the defense honest to open up the running game then it’s a worthwhile investment. But if they do see the need to let go of one or the other it will be a tough call. Jackson is more of a threat but Garçon is the better teammate. Right now I’d guess that Jackson would be the one to go because Scot McCloughan prefers bigger receivers but a lot depends on how 2015 plays out.


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  1. abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 5:26 AM

    My top 3 corners:

    1. Culliver – 65 tackles, 5 ints, 20 passes defensed, 3 forced fumbles

    2. Breeland – 70 tackles, 4 ints, 18 passes defensed, 4 forced fumbles

    3. Hall – 40 tackles, 3 ints, 8 passes defensed, 2 forced fumbles

    • sidepull - Jun 15, 2015 at 6:50 AM

      Yup. Agree totally. Amerson has a lot to prove after an awful season last year.

      As much excitement as Djax provides, I do remember Garcon being more than capable of being the #1 before Djax got here Even in an awful season with everybody knowing he would get the ball, he really produced. I like him over Jackson.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 7:02 AM

        Yeah, I still have hopes for Amerson but if Hall is healthy enough to play this year, Amerson is sure to be our 4th corner.

        I know Joe Barry had a smart ass comment about not wanting to try some of their corners out as a FS like Amerson, Hall or Breeland; but I think they’d be foolish for not giving Amerson some work at FS during mini-camp and OTAs to see if he could transition there for the future.

        Goldson could be and in all probability will be average at best at FS for the skins this year, they’re going to need a long term answer at FS and that could be Amerson if they gave him a chance to play some FS this camp and preseason.

        • berniebernard666 - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM

          so you want to make Amerson learn a new position since he hasn’t even figured out his first position yet? That makes about as much sense as continuing to let Forbath kick to the 3 yard line and us sitting here watching teams return kickoffs to the 30 yard line, while the guy with the strongest leg is sitting on the bench watching.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:43 AM

          No, I think that Amerson is better suited for the FS position. I think his skillet is better used as a FS.

          As for Forbath, I like seeing FGs go through the uprights. If you want to go back to a 50/50 kicker like Cundiff, or other kickers we had the past 20 years, have at it but I’m glad the coaches aren’t such idiots to just cut Forbath because he doesn’t kick the ball through the endzone.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM

          CBs make a lot more money than Safeties. Thats why you don’t see a lot of them converting to Safety. It’s not just up to the Coaches.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 11:31 AM

          Yeah, that may be somewhat of a factor but it’s not the major one.

          You get paid pretty well if your an above average or better safety than if you’re a 3rd or 4th corner.

          If Amerson can transition and be a starting FS, he’ll make more than if he’s a nickel corner.

          It’s mostly up to the coaches where they want players to play. A player can only complain so much before the couch gets fed up with them and then they player is in the doghouse or cut.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM

        I doubt Garcon or Jackson are on the redskins after their current contracts are up. As long as we aren’t having to draft another QB next year early, it wouldn’t shock me to see a WR drafted in round 1 or 2. Like Taj Boyd from Pitt.

  2. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Jun 15, 2015 at 7:02 AM

    They’re both only 28, so at least Father Time shouldn’t be an issue.

  3. berniebernard666 - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    I am in the NO CLUE department why Gruden would not have somebody other than Forbath handle the kickoff duty. Of course I don’t know anything about wanting the punter to practice directional kicking and such, in fact, I don’t know much of anything compared to Jay Gruden and the Skins coaches. I mean, even is Dan Snyder had put me in charge of the Redskins for the last couple of years, I doubt I would have been able to get the Redskins more than 6 or 7 wins out of a possible 32.

  4. mr.moneylover - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Tress way not going nowere, the starting CBs for week 1 will be breeland,culliver, and hall with tevin mitchel coming in on nickle situation…coaches still in love with ryan grant route running and how smoove he is…and I think both wide receivers will return but if I have to choose one ill say p.garcon wont return simply cause he struggle to create room to catch the ball and by the time next year we will have even better wide receiver depth…I said it once and ill say it again this team should be better but if jay gruden cant show he know how to make adjustments much sooner then he did last year im calling for him to get fired he was 5 maybe 6 weeks late in benching tyler polumbus and he was about 5 weeks late in benching kirk cousins he just let these kinda players throw our season straight to hell if he see a player struggling I wanna see how quick he can fix it and adjust cause he was horrible last year as a rookie head

    • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:37 AM

      Tevin Mitchell isn’t going to be the #4 over Amerson

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 15, 2015 at 11:31 AM

      So who’s place is Mitchell taking in the Nickel Hall, Breeland, or Culliver? You do realize there are only 3 CBs in the Nickel.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:20 PM

        Hall’s because he’s not 100%. It’s also OTAs, they’re giving the young players a chance to play and rotate in. Mitchell isn’t taking all the nickel snaps.

    • mr.moneylover - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:49 PM

      David amerson will be the fifth CB I see tevin mitchel bein the 4th CB simply cause he shown hes very comfortable defending the slot postion I think tevin Mitchell will give david amerson a run for his money when it comes to training camp…david amerson wont be given a spot on the depth chart this year…hes a backup now for a reason he gotta compete for a spot and you never know we might got a undrafted standout on the roster who jay gruden might want to keep…and another thing david amerson is not jay gruden or scot m. player david amerson is Mike shanahan player

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:57 PM

        I think Amerson wouldn’t play the slot but if someone got hurt, Amerson would play before Mitchell and Breeland would go to the slot.

        This get back to my point about Hall’s injury. I think if Hall’s healthy, he’s getting the nickel reps. Amerson is head of Mitchell on the depth chart though.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 4:03 PM

        Here is your answer:

        Our lads has Breeland as the 1st string nickel corner & Mitchell as the back up nickel corner.

  5. bangkokben - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    So it seems the training camp times have been switched back to accommodate the city of Richmond and the financial interests of the folks there. Were there any practices canceled due to weather last year? What other rationale could be made for having the practices and walk-throughs closer in time with the practices in the heat of the day?

  6. mr.moneylover - Jun 15, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    I wanna know what jay gruden learned as a head coach from last year cause he was very slow in the making changes department….everybodyand they momma was yelling BENCH TYLER POLUMBUS BENCH KIRK COUSINS and jay gruden kept playing the players who struggle and that can have a effect on the people who do got confidence

    • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 12:38 PM

      Kirk finished the season on the bench and still led the team in yards, and TDs… A Case could have been made to keep him in… Defense let him down 3 weeks in a row (Eagles, Seahawks, Giants) then he started playing like lukewarm poop. You’re just a “KC hater” aren’t you lol.

      • bangkokben - Jun 15, 2015 at 1:01 PM

        The Giants defense let KC down by picking off all his passes.

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM

          Kirk had 4 picks in that game… Yes very terrible… But 3 of them came in the second half when they were down big, Why? Because the defense got shredded by Eli.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM

          Rewatch the game. The offense also didn’t move the ball and then the defense had to defend shorter fields. It was a collective effort in suckage. Kirk started sucking in the 3rd quarter and it was a spiral affect.

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM

          I saw Eli complete over 70% of his passes. Good field position or not… The D got shredded.

        • bangkokben - Jun 15, 2015 at 5:21 PM

          My first comment was just me being snarky because you mentioned that Giants game. So in seriousness…That was the first game without D. Hall and the defense was like swiss cheese. WRs not named Odell Beckham Jr were open instantly and all day. Nonetheless, after Kirk’s first interception, Merriweather was awarded an interception in the endzone that may have actually been a touchdown and Cousins promptly threw another pick. And then it was clear that it was the end of Cousins getting any sort of compensation for the Redskins.

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 5:59 PM

          I honestly could not care less about which QB is in the game as long as they are effective. If it’s RG, that’s great. I just don’t want to watch three and outs all year long. Watching RG try to run the offense was painful aside from a handful of plays that inspired hope lol. It’s year four, time to stop making excuses for why he is not playing at a higher level.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 6:45 PM

          On the first year he’s had the same offense in back to back years though. That matters for a young QB developing into more of a pocket passer. Consistency matters a lot for young qbs development

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 7:10 PM

          Still excuses IMO. He was in Shannahans’ offense for 2 years, but then you’ll say he got hurt. Then it’s that he is learning how to play from the pocket, then it’s the ankle injury, then it’s a new system. My point is when does it end? At some point RG needs to be held accountable. It’s year Four for him. There has been plenty of QBs that have preformed better with more inconsistency in scheme. The one that comes to mind right away is J.C. I think we can both agree that RG is more talented then Jason Campbell, but Campbell had a different OC all four years of college AND his first four years in the pros. IMO, that’s all RG has to do. Put up J.C kind of #’s, provided the D holds up and the running game is solid… Alot of IF’s though.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 7:56 PM

          Seen as Excuses by some but are also facts, nothing I said was untrue.

          This is Griffins year to prove it, if he doesn’t then they won’t pay his option next March and he’ll be a free agent.

          I don’t understand why the doubters can’t freak on wait one more year, or less than half a year if Griffin doesn’t play well. I also don’t understand how doubters can’t realize that most young qbs take 5 years or more to finally get it in the nfl – if they ever do.

          It was 6 years before Aaron Rodgers was the QB he developed to be, 5 years for Bree’s, 4 years for Eli. And these guys were pocket qbs in college.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 1:01 PM

        Cousins is like Rex Grossman at the moment. He could improve, but he’s a turnover machine and even worse, he gets down himself and gives the team no confidence after he makes a major mistake.

        Yes, Kirk had the major yards & tds, but he also had the most turnovers which resulted in the worst field position we had all year, especially for the defense and defending short fields.

        For example, Kirk’s turnovers caused the defense to have to defend 30/40/50 yards often times.

        In the Eagles game, the specials teams gave up a TD, Kai Forbath missed one of his few field goals of the year a very makeable 33 yarder. Kirk threw a bad int in the 4th quarter, and the passing game was not in sync a perfect example was his final drive when he couldn’t move them downfield for s field goal.

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM

          Passing game not in sync? What game were you watching? Kirk put up nearly 500 yards that game! It should have never come down to the final possession, defense blew it. As for your comment about the turnovers, Kirk was 10-9-2 (TD-INT-FL) that’s 10 TDs with 11 turnovers. RG with rushing TDs included was 5-6-4, 5 TDs for 10 turnovers. Kirk maybe a turnover machine, but thing think I saw that hurt the most last year was RG overthrowing Desean, and McCoy short arming him. Kirk was the only one dropping them in the bucket or hitting him in stride for 6.

  7. Stephfan - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Regardless Kirk still stunk it up. Let’s not forget s 3 int performance against the cardinals. Two of those cost us the lead

    • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM

      I’ll agree to disagree, RG had his share of terrible performances last year.

      • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 3:17 PM

        No doubt, but I was just saying why Kirk lost games & eventually his staring job to Colt.

        Let’s not forget Kirk was benched after a horrible mid fiend int in the Tennessee game right before the half where, if we had gotten a first down or two, we could have kicked a FG.

        • 214hof - Jun 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM

          I know, ultimately Kirk hasn’t won many games. But when he has played well and scored points the defense hasn’t helped him out. Then there are the games RG has played stunk it up and they lost by 7 or less while the D was pulling there weight… Frustrating thing to last year. I just hope ALL 3 phases show up on game days next season.

        • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 5:05 PM

          Yeah, and that has a lot to do with their different styles of play. Kirk is a gunslinger, Griffin & McCoy are more patient and don’t force too many throws.

          It’s feast of famine with Kirk

  8. Carl Gray - Jun 15, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    There’s no way Jackson will be a Redskin next year. McCloughan doesn’t like receivers who can’t block or players with massive egos, no matter his good he is. He will either be traded or released.

    • abanig - Jun 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM

      I don’t think Jackson or Garcon are on the redskins next year and its one or the other, it’s Garcon over DJax imho. I don’t think DJax is putting too good of an impression on his new boss so far. Archives

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