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Redskins ‘no-brainer’ RG3 option decision a product of QB supply and demand

Jun 2, 2015, 10:00 AM EDT

RG3 vs. Giants 2014

Even though many saw some upside and some downside in the Redskins’ decision to exercise the 2016 option in the contract of quarterback Robert Griffin III, team president Bruce Allen though it was an easy call to make.

Well we think Robert is our starting quarterback,” Allen said on Monday. “We’ve seen him win. We’ve seen him win big games. We know his talent. It really was a no-brainer.”

The main concern about the option is that it becomes guaranteed should Griffin get injured and unable to play in 2016. With a medical record that includes two torn ACL’s (one in college, one at the end of his rookie year) and a dislocated ankle that caused him to miss six games last year the injury factor is a legitimate concern. But Allen looks at it as a cost of doing business.

There’s a cost to everyone who gets hurt,” he said. “I don’t see that as an individual player thing. Any injury is going to cost you on the salary cap.”

Of perhaps greater concern than the injury problems is the fact that a healthy Griffin was benched in favor of Colt McCoy in late November. His inconsistent performance since his stellar rookie 2012 season casts doubt on whether or not Griffin will be worth the $16.6 million salary that comes with the option.

But the thing is that paying large salaries to quarterbacks with spotty records is the way the NFL does business. The Panthers have gone 30-31-1 in Cam Newton’s 62 regular season starts and 1-2 in the playoffs. The former No. 1 overall pick has completed less than 60 percent of his passes and has a pedestrian QB rating of 85.4. Despite that, Newton and the Panthers are close to agreeing on a contract extension that would keep the quarterback in Carolina through 2020 and pay him something north of $20 million per year.

It should be noted that Newton has generally improved his performance from year to year and he has rushed for 2,571 yards in his career (643 yards/season). He has a chance to be very good. But the $20 million per year mark used to be reserved for quarterbacks who have hoisted the Lombardi Trophy. Now it looks like Newton will join Ryan Tannehill of the Dolphins as .500 quarterbacks with deals that pay nearly $20 million per year (Tannehill’s recently signed extension pays him $19.25 million per year).

Perhaps one year at $16.6 million for Griffin isn’t a bargain compared to the deals signed by Newton and Tannehill but if he shows even modest improvement it would not be an outrageous salary for the team to pay.

It’s a matter of supply and demand. Top-notch quarterbacks are in very short supply and it’s tough to even find one who can be consistently competent. When the demand exceeds the supply, costs go up.

The owners and GM’s who are handing out these deals will, like Allen, say it’s the cost of doing business. But there may be as much fear as business acumen involved in these deals, as Kevin Clark, NFL writer for the Wall Street Journal tweeted after Newton’s contract numbers came out.

The Redskins may not be very happy with Griffin’s play over the last couple of years. But one of the few things worse than putting up with inconsistent quarterback play is trying to find and develop a new one. They have a lot invested in Griffin, both in terms of the draft picks it took to get him and the time they have taken to try to turn him into a dependable NFL quarterback. Despite his struggles it looks like they think it is too early to start looking again. There is some legitimate fear of going down that path again.

  1. bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    By this time next year there will be at least 16 quarterbacks that will average more per year then Griffin’s option.

  2. mr.moneylover - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    When rg3 is healthy hes better then most QBs in the league thats a fact…if rg3 can leap over his mental problems then I do believe he can become a great QB…trevor matish said it best last year after one of the redskins games I DONT THINK MOST TEAMS WORKED AS HARD AS THE REDSKINS IN TRAINING CAMP BUT REDSKINS HAVE GUYS ON THE FIELD WHO JUST LOOK LOST AND ITS A MATTER OF WHO PICKS UP THEY PLAYBOOK ON THEY DAY OFF AND STUDY

  3. Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    I would agree if I thought Griffin was the best QB on the team. The way I see it though they wouldn`t even have to look. The big problem with 2014 was that they started the season with the wrong QB. Cousins was just consistently better in the offseason last year and still the Redskins wasted reps on an obviously mediocre Griffin.
    When he then predictably played mediocre once the season started as well, and equally predictably got himself injured again, the best QB on the team wasn`t ready to lead because he had unjustly been sidelined.

    The best player needs to play, not the one who sells the most shoes.

    • jpa - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:48 AM

      Cousins was benched because of the picks, not a lack of leadership.

      • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:52 AM

        No I meant he started the season on the bench after being clearly the best QB on the team during the offseason. It was unfair and basically anti-competition. If people are fine with their worst QB starting the season the so be it. I`ll keep complaining about it. I`ll support Griffin if he can prove that he`s the best QB available. He didn`t do that at any point last season.

        • jonevans511 - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM

          So why exactly was Couins the best qb on the team during the OFFseason? Preseason games? Against second to forth string players? Or was it the way he looked when throwing the football around at practice with a red jersey on? Did you watch Cousins when he started? He’s not bad, but his ceiling is low. RGIII’s, until we are proven differently, is MUCH higher than any other QB on our roster. That’s what coaches and front office people get paid to do- find the guys who have upside and surround them with competent players in case the hit-or-miss types don’t work out. I’m surprised you haven’t realized that by now because I can guarantee you weren’t calling for RGIII to be benched during our 7 game win streak to win the division in 2012. If Cousins were truly the better QB, one of the other 15+ teams in need of a good starting QB would have offered up the farm to get him. You know what other teams have offered us for Cousins? Does “market value” mean anything?

        • Skulb - Jun 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM

          I was actually. Griffin should not have played after he twisted his knee in the Ravens game. Any fool could see that he was seriously injured in that knee and he limped onto the field for the last games.
          I don`t think his ceiling is where it was anymore. And even if it is he hasn`t been anywhere close to it for two years. And I`m not sure any Skins QB has a market value right now. Which teams are lining up for the RGIII trade? Don`t you think they can see that he`s been unable to run a pro offense for the last two seasons?

    • bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:50 AM

      And of we redistributed wealth, how long would it take before it ends up where we are? Point: all things aren’t equal.

      Cousins may have grasped the offense quicker than Griffin and been more suited to play it but so what? Starting Cousins and the redistribution of wealth were equally on the table.

      • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM

        I don`t even understand what you`re trying to say to be honest. It isn`t wealth redistribution to play the best available player. If Griffin wants to play he should be able to sideline Cousins first by being better than him and not just because of his contract status and his love relationship with Snyder. If anything it should be deeply embarrassing for him to be worse than both of his backups last season. And he was from start to finish.

        • bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM

          Griffiin is the wealthy and Cousins is poor. Cousins is never going to get a fair shot against Griffin because what was invested in drafting Griffin – not to mention his ROY. Dig out the draft value chart and compare what Griffin cost and Cousins cost. For arguments sake lets say Cousins cost 100 value points and Griffin cost 10,000 value points (these can be corrected later). Griffin therefore cost 100 times more. Therefore in any pre-season game performance in 2014, Griffin would’ve had to suck 100 times worse than Cousins for Kirk to win the job. This year the level of suck might be down to 50 times or it could be just as high because it is the last year to make that original investment work.

        • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 2:52 PM

          Apparently. My issue is with the claim that nobody else can play QB. It`s like a mantra or something.

        • bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 4:59 PM

          So you don’t like my picture of reality or don’t agree with it?

          If either of the ‘twos’ push Griffin or outplay him in pre-season then the hook could be quick in the real season but the job is Griffin’s barring injury or utter meltdown. Look, it’s not like he’s Gino Smith or Johny Manziel. Griffin was the consensus #2 pick and would’ve been the #1 pick in most other years and still has that talent. The other two have a good view of their limitations.

        • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 6:15 PM

          That`s where I disagree. Griffin`s stats were absolutely comparable to Geno Smith`s last year. In fact Smith had him beat in a few categories. Why is one allowed to blame the offensive line, changing systems and injuries while the other is a laughing stock? This whole argument now seems to boil down to “I went high in the draft three years ago so I`m playing”.
          I`m not saying he shouldn`t. Just that I don`t think he should if he isn`t performing as well as his competition for the spot. And if he really is fit to start that premise shouldn`t be a problem right? Or to put it another way: how long can a starting QB be worse than his backup before being replaced?

          Of course it`s a little subjective. I like Cousins quite a bit while others think McCoy should be backup. And some have a “go down with the ship” attitude and want RGIII to start come hell or high water. I just want the best QB to be given reps to prepare for the season so we can avoid last year`s carousel. Not the best potential QB or the best QB in 2012. The best QB.

        • bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 6:36 PM

          I want to say this gently so imagine a golf announcer whispering as Rory is on the green about to putt say to you, “Simply, get over it.”

          What you seem to fail to realize is that there was no equal footing and that Cousins is/was not “substantially” better than the incumbent. He was marginally – statistically and otherwise – better. Therefore considering everything that I’ve mentioned today, no change. Change of quarterback is a massive decision which has massive ripples throughout the organization and in personal careers. Making the decision is always top news no matter what NFL city you’re in. The fact that Gruden benched two different quarterbacks based on performance last year made the Redskins and Gruden laughingstocks. So it’s not that Kirk can’t play and it’s not like things can’t change that Kirk won’t play here but the Bears chose Cutler over McCown and the ‘skins will go with the more talented one here as well.

        • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jun 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM

          Yes the investment in RG3 makes it obvious why he was the starter going into the season. Not every top player performs well in preseason and if i recall correctly RG3 was playing against 1st team players while Cousins threw against 2nd tier and fodder.

          When any organization puts the level of investment into a player that the Redskins did for RG3 he gets every opportunity to succeed. If Cousins was elite in performance then there maybe a change in strategy make sense. However, Cousins has not proven to be elite. Cousins has had periods of great performances with periods of complete melt downs especially when playing against better defenses. I like Cousins but not enough to want to start him against a heavily invested franchise QB.

      • ET - Jun 2, 2015 at 12:33 PM

        I agree with Skulb on this one. The Skins should’ve started the QB who performed best during the preseason last year, just as other positions were addressed competitively. I would hope the same holds true this season, though the signals are mixed so far.

        • bangkokben - Jun 2, 2015 at 1:39 PM

          The merits of ‘should’ could be argued as Rich pointed out. My point is that in 2014, Cousins starting the season was never on the table due to Griffin’s talent and how much was invested in both by the organization. Because of these factors Cousins would’ve had to be perfect – not only in preseason games but also in practice – while Griffin would’ve had to play Tampa-Bay-bad throughout.

      • Trey Gregory - Jun 5, 2015 at 12:36 AM

        Uh, that’s a really strange analogy to compare with what QB should have started. I don’t really think that’s the same thing at all.

        But if I was given 10 mil to get my life started (like Trump’s dad gave him) I could grow that and be just as successful as that bonehead is. So, yeah, circumstances matter. If Cousins was on a different team, with a better line, maybe a different scheme, or had a fair shot to show what he has without the constant pressure of knowing he’s going to get benched if he stumbles a little… Yeah, I can see him growing into a good NFL QB and having success. The front office will be fools if RG3 doesn’t make the cut and we let Cousins walk. He has a ton of potential.

        • bangkokben - Jun 5, 2015 at 8:13 AM

          Cousins isn’t going to get a fair shot here. As potential Redskin fans see in him, the rest of the NFL doesn’t have the same view. Perhaps at the end of the season there is a bidding war for his services. We shall see.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 5, 2015 at 8:08 PM

          But why get into a bidding war for an unproven commodity when you could probably get him right now for a low round pick? I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we let him go for a 5th or 6th. I personally think it’s because teams don’t think he has any value. If anything, I think Redskins fans think Cousins has way more value than anyone else in the league. If RG3 doesn’t do well in the first quarter/half of 2015, fans will be demanding Cousins get a fair shake at the job. What other fan base is going to demand their starting QB get benched and the team squire Cousins to start instead?

          Think about the recent contracts that guys like Matt Flyn and Josh McCown got after just a small sample sized showing. Why would a team want to get into that when they could have him right now for next to nothing, see what they have in him for a season, then determine his value at the end of this contract? This league is starved for QBs and so far nobody has even called and offered a 7th rounder for the guy. I think that’s telling man. I think that’s says everything that we need to know about how the rest of the league feels about Cousins. I personally think he has some potential and is worth a shot. But it seems most teams would rather just roll the dice in the draft and on spread QBs than take a chance on Cousins.

        • bangkokben - Jun 6, 2015 at 9:35 AM

          I agree that Redskins fans have an inflated value of Cousins and it didn’t help when Casserly put a ridiculous value on him. We don’t know what the ‘skins have been offered or what the ‘skins are willing to take for him. I’ve been saying all along that he’ll be traded at the end of training camp for a low rounder. I take that back now because Halliday quitting football. It still may happen but now the ‘skins don’t need to trade Cousins and still have a spot for him. Thus his value may be worth a conditional fourth rounder. We shall see. Despite Gruden’s “lukewarmness” toward Griffin, McCloughan is calling the shots. It will be interesting.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 6, 2015 at 11:05 AM

          But we do know, at least go a point. I guess anything could have happened since then, but very recently Scot said he hasn’t gotten a single call about Cousins. Also, with today’s sports coverage, these things tend to leak. then It seems reporters just make up plausible stories (AP to Dallas) to fill a slow news cycle, and we haven’t even had that. It’s all quiet on the Cousins front, not a good sign.

    • Rich Tandler - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:53 AM

      You can say that about RG vs. KC last offseason all you want but nobody who was in camp every day will agree with you. Griffin was hesitant and double clutched a lot; Cousins very confidently threw multiple picks almost every day. Yeah, if you had an iso camera on KC or just saw a few days like the Pats writers did you might say that KC was better. But the body of work for both during OTAs, training camp, and the preseason was mediocre. As the incumbent, Griffin clearly deserved to start the season.

      • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 11:58 AM

        Well it`s true that I wasn`t at camp every day. The commute would kill me.I`m just looking at the stats available to me. My crystal ball seems to be out of batteries.

      • princewilks - Jun 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM

        Also people seems to forget that is much easier to look like the better player during preseason when you’re playing against 2nd or 3rd stringers. Which is exactly who KC was playing against and was still throwing picks and forcing balls downfield.

        • Skulb - Jun 2, 2015 at 6:24 PM

          I get that point. But he was still throwing against some of the worst defenders in the NFL. I don`t mean to sound overly negative but it`s just true. At least statistically.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 3, 2015 at 1:14 AM

          Cousins thre more picks and had a worse completion percentage. Those stats are mostly on the QB so what stats are you talking about?

    • mr.moneylover - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:46 PM

      Kirk cousins Is a young rex grossman….heres why in OTAS kirk cousins made a beautiful pass to logan paulsen kirk cousins yelled BOOYAH Deangleo Hall told him shut up yo shut up man after that kirk cousins threw another pass and it got picked off my jeron johnson deangleo hall then yelled BOOYAH BOOYAH…my point is kirk cousins confindents is to weak to be the starter…all the QBs wouldve failed in jay gruden system last year because its a west coast system some new to all them

    • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 3, 2015 at 1:01 AM

      So what was Cousins problem with holding on to the starting job while getting all the reps for 6 weeks?

      • Skulb - Jun 3, 2015 at 6:13 AM

        Turnovers. Why is it that any criticism of Griffin gets interpreted as Cousins love? Perhaps I should rephrase and say that I think Cousins is the least horrible QB in Washington. Get it now? Not great, just not quite as trash as the alternative?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Jun 3, 2015 at 8:18 AM

          32 NFL teams disagree with your assessment of Cousins. We got Zero offers for him in a weak QB Draft. Cousins has more interceptions, a worse completion percentage, and as Rich has said above he regularly throws interceptions. Cousins is not even close to being as talented as RG3

        • Skulb - Jun 3, 2015 at 10:44 AM

          The last time RGIII looked talented to me was in 2012 though. To be fair he looked talented for a few seconds when he avoided a sack against Minnesota as well, to give the man his due.
          Are you seriously going to support this guy for the next decade because he played well in 2012? I`m not sure I believe that he`ll ever return to that form tbh. What makes you think he will?

          If you go by the last two seasons none of what you said above fits anymore, apart from Cousins and interceptions. Like it or not Cousins`stats were better last season in most categories according to the NFL. And so were McCoy`s. Once again that wasn`t because they were such great and wonderful HoF quarterbacks but because Griffin was even worse. ANd yes he was comparable to Geno Smith, whether you want to hear it or not. If anyone wins that comparison last season it`s Smith.
          The answer to that isn`t to go into hysterical denial and add in 2012 stats to salvage Griffin`s image is it?

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 6, 2015 at 1:29 PM

          I personally think people are missing your point though. Unless I’m mistaken, it seems that you’re saying that 1) Griffin was terrible last year. 2) So was Cousins. But 3) it seems Cousins was maybe further along in this system and, if given the proper coaching attention, game experience, and time, that he could develop into the QB this team needs right now.

          RG3 supporters, myself included, seem to be making the argument that if he just has more time to develop, he can be the guy. But I think it’s only fair to say the same thing about Cousins. This doesn’t have to be a RG3 vs Cousins thing. This is just what happens when you have two QBs at similar points in their career. All I want is for one of the two of them to improve on their respective issues and come out the clear #1 guy this year.

          I think Cousins is one of the best off the bench backup QBs in the NFL. His issues seem to pile on when he has to play a full game. Maybe it’s the pressure of being a starter or defenses having time to prepare for him. I don’t know. But Skulb doesn’t make an unfair point. Those problems should be able to be coached/worked out with a little time and experience.

          Now I personally blame the organization for RG3’s fall. Not even because of the injury (he obviously should have been pulled and preserved after the Ngada hit) but because of what they mentally did to him. Snyder basically made him believe he was larger than life, had already arrived, and that he was basically running things around there. That’s a lot of ego to pump into a kid who was already a Demi God in Waco and a national sensation. There’s obviously more too all of that, but I think you guys get the point.

          Now, because of all that, and because I truly believe RG3’s problems can be fixed. And I do believe he has franchise QB potential. No stage is too big for him, he has a big arm, tons of athletic ability, and I believe his mental issues are more off the field than on them. So I want him to have another chance. But Cousins completely deserves another chance too. If RG3 fails, he should be given a real, legit shot at the starting job. I don’t know how anyone can disagree with that.

        • Skulb - Jun 6, 2015 at 5:00 PM

          @Trey Gregory.

          I agree with everything you said. But it has to happen now for Griffin and he`s running out of time. If he can move in the right direction in 2015 and play average or better at QB, then optimism will return and he should be the guy for the future. But one more awful season and it`s over. And if it is over then Cousins is likely to be a much better option than a draftee or anything you`d be likely to pick up in FA. I`d even say more or less the same of McCoy. You can pick on their weaknesses all day, but the fact remains that they were never prepared as starters preseason. If they had been they might have performed better. It`s good enough to give both of them a shot if Griffin`s regression continues.
          What I want is just some basic competence at QB. You don`t need a HoF QB to win the SB. What you need it power lines, runners and a solid secondary. The QB just needs to cut the mistakes down to a minimum and do his job and you can win. Putting all the chips on the QB is a bad way of building a team.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM

          Yeah, I 100% agree with everything you just said. I just doubt Cousins stays past 2015 if he isn’t named starter at some point this year

      • dkat44 - Jun 3, 2015 at 8:56 AM

        A few really bad quarters….and the redistributed wealth thing. lol

    • Trey Gregory - Jun 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM

      I get your point, but I think you’re exaggerating your point about how Cousins was better than RG3. Some people said they thought Cousins looked better, some did not. I don’t think Cousins was head and shoulders above RG3 last offseason. To me, it seemed most people though Cousins had the new system down better than RG3, but that Griffin was still the better QB overall and just needed time to settle into the new system. A lot of players look good in the pre season, that’s not necessarily a reason to boot starters out of their jobs.

      And I think you’re wrong saying it was predictable that RG3 got hurt. I’ve said it over and over, and I’ll keep saying it. People way over exaggerate how injury prone RG3 is. He took A TON of hits in 2012, but doesn’t have the body to take those kinds of hits. You can say the exact same thing about his time at Baylor. He was being used as a RB in a QBs body, that leads to injuries. It would lead to injuries for a lot of NFL QBs. Blame the way he was being used, or his careless running style, but not his body. Then, unless I’m mistaken, he was injury free in 2013. At least from major injuries. Then his injury last year was just a freak injury. Unfortunately, that kind of stuff happens. But none of his injuries (including the 2012 concussion vs Atlanta) happened in the pocket. While plenty of other QB’s bodies fall apart in the pocket. So, saying RG3 is brittle or injury prone is innacurate. His body was just out into situations that itsnt made for. Until he starts falling apart in the pocket (like say, Sam Bradford), It’s not fair to call him injury prone.

      • Skulb - Jun 3, 2015 at 6:27 PM

        Well I`m just looking at stats. It`s not much of a secret that Griffin has been bottom five for two seasons, I`m not making any statement about why that is either, just saying that it is.
        I know I`ve mentioned this many times here, but the most important stats people seem to forget is the TTP (Time to pass) and PC (Pocket collapse). And when you look at those two together for the Redskins it is very clear that Cousins was much closer to doing things right, at least given the offense they were playing in, than Griffin was last year. In fact Cousins did do things right except that he threw the ball to the wrong team. But the snap, the dropback and the timing of his distribution when compared to the average PC time of the line was very good. He had the half second Griffin didn`t have to let him escape a lot of rush and pressure.
        I think that if Cousins had been a little more lucky/accurate/cool on about half of his ints his season would have looked pretty good last year. And the conversation might now easily be how to get rid of Griffin in as profitable way as possible.

        When it comes to the injuries keeping yourself healthy as a QB is important, and if you don`t play safely you get injured. A QB playing unsafely is injury prone, ie likely to get injured. If I decide to jump off tall buildings then I would become injury prone too. Some of the hits Griffin took in 2012 were somewhere between normal football tackles and that, and he shouldn`t have taken a lot of them.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 4, 2015 at 12:40 AM

          Well, there’s the problem. You and I disagree on what injury prone means. See, to me, jumping off a building wouldn’t make someone injury prone, it would make them stupid, (I said “them” instead of “you” because I don’t think you’re stupid, you make a valid point).

          But if we’re saying injury prone in comparison to other NFL QBs, any NFL QB, Cam, Kap, Wilson, Luck, Rogers, etc. etc., would have had their knee shredded if 330 pounds of Haloti Ngada flew through the air and hit their knee from the side. That was not a normal football hit, it was awful. To me, if you play the position normal and take normal hits and still fall apart, that’s injury prone. Vick ran out of bounds and tore a hammy with no contact last year, that’s injury prone.

          But I agree about your point about time of release. I just got into that and said basically the same thing in another thread yesterday or the day before. RG3 held on to the ball too long last year. I see that as a fact that can’t be blamed on his line (although some people disagreed and also made valid points). But, as I said before, some people viewed that as him being uncomfortable in a new system and that his upside was so much higher than Cousins that it was worth letting him take his time to figure out.
          Another important stat is ints. Truly, that is one of the single most important stats. You can have perfect robotic form, but if the ball goes to the other team, you’re not going to win games. I would love to see Cousins succeed. I want solid play from the QB position. But Cousins didn’t deliver that either. I think a lot of us thought we saw Cousins at his best, and it wasn’t good enough. But didn’t see RG3 at his best, and are hoping he figures it out and gets there eventually. It’s all just hope and speculation until he does it, but I’m hoping.

          That being said, I want RG3 to have a fair shot at getting comfortable and showing what he’s truly made of. Maybe 6-8 games. If he doesn’t show anything in that time, I really hope they give Cousins another chance before he walks out of the building. Because I’m not 100% confident we really know what we have in him yet either

        • Skulb - Jun 4, 2015 at 3:05 PM

          I agree with all this I think. My question has always been what`s easier of the two: coaching Cousins into performing as he usually does but without so many ints or coaching Griffin up to be faster in his process. And I have no idea really. I just thought there were so many different issues with Griffin last season that I sort of gave up on him a little. Protecting himself, reading the field, dropbacks. He was just all over the place.

          I guess we`ll find out though. Whatever the case he has to improve this year or he`s done in DC and probably the NFL. And if he is I still think Cousins might have a shot if he can fix his, uh, color blindness.

        • Trey Gregory - Jun 5, 2015 at 12:44 AM

          Yeah, well said. I don’t know the answer to that either. It probably SHOULD be easier to coach Cousins. But, that kind of goes into how we all feel about Gruden and his 2014 staff. I’ll just say this, I think Gruden was a fool not to hire a QB coach last year. Also, I have SO much more faith in this staff than last year’s. So I don’t know, maybe some good coaching happens and both QBs make strides.

          I understand you giving up on Griffin though. I thought he looked a lot better the last 2 games than he did the rest of the season, but the whole season was awful. I may be the biggest RG3 fan there is. But I’ll personally show him the door if he doesn’t improve to just mediocrity in 2015.

        • Skulb - Jun 5, 2015 at 12:54 AM

          @Trey Gregory

          I lie awake nights dreaming of mediocrity at QB. Well not quite, but it`s a rather sad state of affairs, especially given just how good Griffin managed to be in 2012. He should just not have played any more after the Ravens game and taken care of his health. Then maybe 2013 wouldn`t have been so bad and who knows if Shanahan would even have been fired. To me a lot goes back to letting him on the field with a busted knee for like four games. It shocked me then and it still rankles.

  4. troylok - Jun 2, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    Gee, let it go already. Allen did the right thing by extending RG3. It was not a deal filled with risk unless RG3 receives a serious injury and… wait. I guess Allen did the semi-right thing to do. I support the decision to re-sign him and I hope he shows something this season.

  5. colmac69 - Jun 2, 2015 at 12:22 PM

    Its boom or bust this season with rgiii…..he play well he gets shiny new xtension….if he flames he is out skins start again at qb either through draft or free agency because mccoy is no more than backup and cousins will move to team who will give him chance to become starter……….

    Hopefully rgiii can show enough to prove he can become qb we all want him to b

    • mr.moneylover - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      Its not a boom or bust ….its more of him showing improvements in running jay gruden offense

  6. redskinsnameisheretostay - Jun 2, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    The real investment in RG3 came in the picks we gave up to acquire him. For me, that gives the team little choice than to pay the guaranteed 16 million regardless of the outcome. We need to see if RG3 can be the QB of the future and this season is a defining period. The organization owes the fans and RG3 this opportunity since they are as much to blame for the fractured development of this QB as he himself is.

    Also, if you look at the salary structure for rookies, the cost on a starting QB for the first four years has been a bargain for the Redskins. Especially when RG3 did provide success to the team in 2012.

  7. dcfaninecuador - Jun 3, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    There are reasons, not obvious to you or me, as to why there was ZERO interest in KC in the off season. That’s point one. Point 2. Because of the investment in Bob; because of the potential he showed in 2012, and because of the injuries, he MUST be given this opportunity to be THE QB for this franchise. If he fails, he fails. If he doesn’t… Well, we’ll all be writing next off season how we all just KNEW he was the guy all along and all he needed was a full, injury-free season with a decent o-line to play behind (but, of course, none of us will admit we were ever wrong about the guy).

    • redskinsnameisheretostay - Jun 3, 2015 at 12:16 PM

      That’s a great point about no interest in Cousins in the off season. All teams in the NFL have ample tape on Kirk and it’s apparent he hasn’t inspired much on trade talks. However, a season of struggles under a new rookie coach/rookie OC and a questionable offense line isn’t enough for me to say I was wrong about RG3. RG3 does need to demonstrate progress playing in the pocket and reduce the amount of sacks he is creating on his own. The offense line should be improved from last season so it is true that excuses are running out for him.

      • Trey Gregory - Jun 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM

        That’s all I need to see to make me happy. Improvement. I don’t need him to be amazing, just better, reliable, and consistent.

        The way this team is built, we don’t need him to play like Aaron Rogers to win. Just more like…. Alex Smith? Just an extremely average showing out of RG3 would satisfy me into thinking he’s worth keeping around to continue to develop. Archives

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