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What does Ryan Tannehill’s extension mean for the Redskins’ RG3?

May 19, 2015, 9:20 AM EDT

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Ryan Tannehill of the Dolphins became the first of the quarterbacks who came out in the 2012 draft to sign a contract extension yesterday. The Redskins have one of those quarterbacks in Robert Griffin III. What effect will Tannehill’s deal have on Griffin?

First let’s look at the money. Tannehill was already under contract for the next two seasons with the last year of his rookie contract and the fifth-year option paying him a total of $18.3 million. The extension adds the years 2017-2020 to the deal and adds $77 million.

Tannehill’s contract gives him $21.5 million fully guaranteed at signing per Pro Football Talk. The total guaranteed money, which includes some that is currently guaranteed for injury only at the time the contract is signed, is $45 million.

So how does that compare to a contract extension that Griffin, who also has the last year of his rookie deal plus the option year left on his deal, might get? Looking at just their total career passing stats there is no reason to think that Griffin should get substantially less than Tannehill in a new contract. Here is a comparison of some key stats. (For detailed stats on each player go here for Tannehill and go here for Griffin.)

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The two are equal in touchdown pass percentage and Tannehill is slightly better in avoiding sacks. But Griffin has the edge in completion percentage, interception percentage, gross yards per attempt, adjusted net yards per attempt and passer rating.

Griffin’s numbers include his stellar 2012 season, one that he did not come close to duplicating in his subsequent two seasons. But even Griffin’s 2013 season, which was widely considered to be a disappointment, was about the same as a typical Tannehill season. Here are some of Griffin’s numbers from that season compared to Tannehill’s career.

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When it comes to the bottom line, wins and losses, there is no question that Tannehill’s Dolphins have been superior to Griffin’s Redskins. Miami is 23-25 in games Tannehill has started while Washington has gone 14-21 in Griffin’s starts.

However, the two quarterbacks have not had equal amounts of help when it comes to putting up wins. The Dolphins’ scoring defense has ranked 7th, 8th, and 20th in Tannehill’s three seasons; the Redskins have been 22nd, 29th, and 30th in scoring defense over the same three years.

All of the information above is the kind of data that Griffin’s agent will present to Scot McCloughan or Bruce Allen or whoever is negotiating a new contract on behalf of the Redskins, trying to argue that Griffin should get a deal at least as good as Tannehill’s or perhaps even better. But the Redskins will have plenty of data on their side to argue that Griffin isn’t worth as much as Tannehill.

Durability is the main quality that Tannehill has going for him over Griffin. The Dolphins have had him behind center for 48 of the 48 games they have played since draft him. He has been listed as questionable on the injury report just twice; other than that he has been either probably or not listed.

Griffin has started 36 of the Redskins’ 49 games since 2012 (counting the one playoff game in 2012). He missed one game due to injury as a rookie and was out six games injured last year. In addition, Griffin was “deactivated” for the last three games of 2013 and benched for performance for three starts last year. Tannehill has a clear advantage in terms of one of the most important “abilities”, availability.

The other thing that Tannehill has going for him is that he appears to be on the rise. In 2014 he posted career-best numbers in virtually every major category—completion percentage, touchdowns, interceptions, yards per attempt, passer rating, and adjusted net yards per attempt. He is doing what a young quarterback is supposed to do, learning and getting better.

Meanwhile, I’m sure it’s not necessary to detail the miserable 2014 season that Griffin had for the readers here. His arrow is currently pointed in the wrong direction.

Fortunately for both parties, it’s not necessary for Griffin and the Redskins to negotiate an extension right now. Griffin will have at least another year to try to turn things around. If he can, the $19.25 million per year that the new money in Tannehill’s contract will pay him would be well within his reach.

  1. troylok - May 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    To think the Redskins could have had Tannehill without giving up draft picks…

    • bangkokben - May 19, 2015 at 10:17 AM

      Whatever the scenario that would have resulted in that case, I’m sure the scenario where Griffin is benched in the 2nd quarter/half of the Seahawks playoff game results in something better.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 10:26 AM

        Redskins wouldn’t have made the playoffs w/o Griffin in 2012.

        W/o the trade up people would just be talking about Tanehill the way they talk about Griffin right now and possibly worse because Tanehill wouldn’t have had a winning season for the Redskins.

        You stick a bad defense and a horrible special teams with Tanehill and the Redskins record isn’t any different from what the Redskins have done the past two years and in 2012, Tanehill wouldn’t have led the team to the playoffs.

        • bangkokben - May 19, 2015 at 12:54 PM

          Yeah. That was my point. Can’t change the past but if we did there’s no way of knowing how much the present changes so if we want to look through the glass of what if to speculate a more favorable outcome, why not look at the moments before Griffin got injured?

    • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 10:20 AM

      Tanehill isn’t any better than Kirk Cousins. If Griffin fails to improve this year, the Skins can cut Griffin after this season and re-sign Cousins. Cousins is a qb who’s going to given them 4,500 yds and near 30 tds a year of he starts an entire season.

      • Shannon Graphics - May 19, 2015 at 10:27 AM

        if Cousins could do that, he’d be starting for someone, including the NFC Pro Bowl team… every year.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM

          Well, I think he will be next year. If it’s not in DC, it will be somewhere else.

        • ET - May 19, 2015 at 1:17 PM

          Cousins is a helluva lot better than at least half a dozen starters / projected starters. He can succeed in the NFL. Will it be with the Skins? Crystal ball cloudy, but prognosis not good.

      • hule1186 - May 19, 2015 at 10:36 AM

        You’re reaching now. No way in he!! will Cousins be that good.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM

          Cousins’ issues right now are confidence and he doesn’t look to extend plays when he can. He can improve these by playing and having a coaching staff that believes he can be the guy.

          Last year, Cousins had 1,710 yards in 6 games and 10 touchdowns.

          Prorate those stats over 16 games and he’d have 4,560 yards and 27 tds and that’s mostly without Jordan Reed at TE and as his main redzone threat.

        • alextwrs - May 19, 2015 at 2:45 PM

          Nobody is reaching as long as you watched every game last year. It was clear that cousins was the most productive QB on our roster. BY FAR!

    • O - May 19, 2015 at 12:24 PM

      We could have drafted Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert in 2011 also.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 12:36 PM

        Could have had Andy Dalton or Colin Kapernick instead of Kerrigan also.

        • O - May 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM

          Imagine Kerrigan playing for the 49ers. Wow

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM

          Kerrigan wouldn’t have lasted to their pick I don’t believe.

      • murphsman - May 19, 2015 at 3:47 PM

        That’s a good way of putting things in perspective. Lol

  2. abanig - May 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    It means that as long as Griffin is showing improvement over the next two season, he should sign a lucrative long term deal in 2017.

    I have to note. Rush yards should be included as well. Griffin’s average of 39 rushing yards a game helps the team in as well.

    Has tanehill won a division championship? Or been to the playoffs?

    He’s the definition of average, Griffin when healthy can be special.

    • Shannon Graphics - May 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM

      Tennehill had a very good year last year throwing from his back. 2 seasons in a row, the worst o-line in football, setting sacks against records. Also consider the cataclysmic melt down of the defense in the 2nd half of the season dropping from 6th over all to 20th by year’s end. Thats’ some serious ‘bad’. Plus he’s never had a cohesive receiving group. I believe those reasons will improve greatly this season and we’ll see what we REALLY have. I don’t know if he’ll be pro bowl material… but “average”… not so much.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 10:43 AM

        Yes, because Tanehill – like Griffin – holds onto the ball too long as they are not developing as pocket quarterbacks.

        The Dolphins OL’s talent trounces the Redskins OL talent.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 11:05 AM

          Tanehill’ total QBR was 15th last year. That’s average. That’s Jason Campbell type production from when he was our starter from 06-09.

        • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 5:35 AM

          Yes but Griffin`s was 28th among the 32 starters last year if I`m not mistaken. The argument isn`t that Tannehill is a HoFer but that Griffin was horrible last season. And in a larger perspective that he keeps getting worse every year rather than improving. The underwhelming 2013 season was fine; nobody cared because he was coming off a serious injury. But then he managed to get even worse in 2014 when people were hoping for some positive signs that he might return to 2012 form. And that`s when people started to lose patience. I mean he wasn`t even OK. He sucked.
          You can call Tannehill whatever you like, but at least he`s average. If RGIII had been average last year the Redskins would have been likely to compete for a playoff game, considering the available talent elsewhere on the roster.

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 11:28 AM

          I’m going to go out on a line here, but do you think having two freak injuries like tearing a knee ligament and dislocating an ankle had anything to do with that?

          The last 3 games of 2014 Griffin played better. He shouldn’t have been benched in favor of McCoy for the Rams & Giants game. When you make a decision and go to your young developing starter, you stick with him, especially in a year like last year that was already lost.

          Gruden screwed the pooch there and honestly, I wouldn’t have benched Cousins during the Tennessee game.

          As I posted earlier Griffin was 67%, 246 yds a game, 1 td & 1 int a game and his rating was 87 for the Giants through Dallas game.

          You also have to take into account that this was Griffin’s second season in the west coast in all his years playing football. Tanehill & Cousins had played in the west coast system for college and their 3 years in the pros.

        • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 12:15 PM

          Yes of course. But then that`s a problem too right? Tannehill has started every game since he was drafted. Roethlisberger has barely missed a game and he gets hit as much as Robert if not more. You do need durability to cut it in the NFL and so far RGIII just lacks it.
          I do disagree that they are freak injuries though. At least the first one. The knee injury happened vs the Ravens and would probably have been serious enough if he had sat out the rest of 2012. But he didn`t and took the field four more times with a torn ACL. It was insanity in my opinion and obviously aggravated the injury.

          Other than that I don`t disagree with anything you`re saying. At his best Robert has looked decent: Good even. The problem is that he hasn`t been able to play a single game at a consistently high level since 2012, much less string a winning run (More than one game in a row….) together. And this sadly puts him in the bottom 5 of NFL starting QBs. And that`s what the stats confirm. That`s all I`m saying.

        • Shannon Graphics - May 20, 2015 at 1:24 PM

          You can’t judge a QB on 1 stat. It’s all connected. Half the time, he holds onto the ball because no one’s open, a theory that is supported by the conspicuous absence of ALL those receivers in Dolphins’ camp. The other half of the time, the sacks were jail breaks… 2 & 3 guys getting there at the same time. I know, I painfully witnessed them all. With a lousy line, and receivers who are now kickin’ rocks, he STILL posted 27 & 12, 4,000+ yards, and a 93+ qb rating. AND he’s never missed a game while in the prime of his career. That’s some serious upside. Is the suggestion here that adding talent at wide receiver and improving the o-line WON’T improve those numbers? And if you want to point to the win-loss record, perhaps it would be more logical to point the finger at the unit that had a cataclysmic meltdown last year, which was our over-rated defense. I don’t know if he’s a pro bowler or has championship stones, but he IS 50 times better than ANY other prospect out there, unless you’re a big Matt Cassel or Ryan Fitzpatrick fan. It’s time to stop whining and get behind our boy.

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 1:49 PM

          My boy is Griffin. Not Tanehill. I’m not a Dolphins fans, I’m a Redskins fan.

    • renhoekk2 - May 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM

      If the Redskins were in the AFC East in 2012 they wouldn’t have won a division title or been in the playoffs either. NE would have won the division and the Skins would have lost out on the wildcard to CIN. So exactly how special is Griffin? Truth is he’s avg at best. I’m not a hater and hope he can be a winning QB for the Skins. But a lot of fans remember a handful of plays from 2012 and think that is his true ability and the OL and coaching are holding him back. He makes great plays from time to time but he’s not a great QB. There’s a difference.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM

        The skins still would have had a winning season in 2012 if they were in the AFCE.

        You say Griffin needs to do this or that to make it in the nfl, you can say Griffin is injury prone and all that.

        What you can’t do is take away Griffin & the Redskins 10-6 season with a team that had less talent on it than any team that Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tanehill or Nick Foles has had.

      • bangkokben - May 19, 2015 at 1:38 PM

        You are correct that there is a significant portion of Redskin fans – maybe 10% – that think that coaching, injury, and OL is all that is holding back Griffin and therefore the Redskins. That belief is clearly misguided and any objective fan that watches the team regularly would see that it lacks merit. That year the offense didn’t turn the ball over (14) and the defense generated more turnovers (31) than any season going back to the glory days. You’re also correct in saying that Griffin was a play-maker but is not a great QB, but to discount what Griffin did in 2012 as a hand full of plays is both disingenuous and revisionistic.

        You have consistently brought up Griffin’s win-loss record over the past two seasons but discount 2012. Going as far as to imply that the 2012 division title is not really an accomplishment because it wouldn’t have resulted the same in the AFC. So the wins are the team’s and the losses are Griffin’s? Consequently, when you post about Griffin and say you’re not a hater it rings hollow. In fact it sounds a lot like that guy who says, “I’m not a racist, but…”

  3. bowlregard - May 19, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Tanneyhill’s contract makes McClue’s decision to extend RG look better.

  4. O - May 19, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Some of you are acting as if Ryan Tannehill is leaps and bounds better than RGIII. Wasn’t Tannehill going to be benched coming into this season?
    2nd point: We could have drafted Tannehill instead of RGIII.
    Okay. No trade up. The Browns take RGIII at 4. That leaves Trent Richardson to fall. If Jacksonville takes him, Justin Blackman falls to 6th. Do you want either Trent Richardson or Justin Blackman? Tannehill would be a reach at 6th.
    Trade back you say? Okay. We grab 2nd round pick which could have been Johnathan Martin. Do we still take Kirk Cousins off the board? If we took Richardson in the 1st, would we take Alfred Morris in the 6th round?

    • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM

      Of course we still take KirkCousins. He was the Shanahan’s man crush.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 12:42 PM

        We’d still take Morris also I believe, Shanahan has never been shy about taking RBs & WRs in the mid and Kate rounds.

        • O - May 19, 2015 at 12:51 PM

          Helu, Royster, Hightower, Richardson, and Morris. Talk about crowded backfield lol

    • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 5:41 AM

      Cousins is a good QB who would probably start on about ten NFL teams right away, so what would be the problem with this scenario? Go to Buffalo or Houston and talk about how bad Cousins is. They lie awake nights there dreaming about having a QB as good as he is.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - May 20, 2015 at 8:06 AM

        Then why hasn’t anyone offered Anything for him?

        • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 8:54 AM

          Just going by the stats here pal, rather than the usual emotional stuff people seem to prefer. Highest QB rating in DC since 2012 have come from Cousins and so have the few properly good performances at QB done.

          To me the big mistake was not just hiring Cousins as first string to begin with and save all the stuff spent on Griffin. He couldn`t have been any worse I think, apart from the rookie season which will not repeat itself, and the rest of the team would be better.

          At least that`s what the stats say to those of us who care about them. Griffin has been a very expensive and mostly bad QB. Cousins has on average been better. Not saying he`s great; just better.

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 10:53 AM

          I like Cousins’ potential, but he’s been Rex Grossman so far in his career and the Skins can’t win with a qb who’s going to always throw ints with the game on the line becsuse the qb thinks his arm can throw people uncovered. Meaning, cousins doesn’t see the field well when he feels the pressure right now in the fourth quarter. Almost all of his ints last year were his fault becsuse he didn’t see a LB or safety.

          Griffin doesn’t make those throws (most of the time) instead he’ll at least try to run and pick up 5/10 yards throw a shorter pass or take a sack. And yes, the sacks suck, but I’d rather have my qb take a 5 or 10 yard loss on a sack than throw an int in the middle of the field becsuse they didn’t see the Lb or safety.

          The truth is both of these qbs need a lot of work to become great. Everyone that thought it was magically going to happen because Griffin won us 9 games as a rookie and Cousins helped us win 2 was fooling themselves.

          Both qbs are in their mid 20s and developing still.

          You can talk about a few stats in a few games, but Griffin’s resume is better than Cousins’ resume. If Griffin is healthy the redskins can win games and they have with him as qb. They’ve won more games with Griffin as qb because when he’s back there the defense has to worry about him running. This helps out the running game and the passing game. This is also why Morris and the running game are more effective when Griffin is the qb.

        • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 12:22 PM

          Sure. But then he has actually performed well under pressure previously, so it might not be this simple. The problem with evaluating Cousins is simply that he`s never really been a starter in DC. And the problem with evaluating Griffin is that his seasons are so different they`re like three different people playing the game. The first was stellar, the second injury rehab and knee brace and the third just absolutely horrible as well as injury mired. So which Griffin are we talking about? The good one, the crippled one or the panicked deer in the headlights from last year?
          It is debatable but I just think it would have been both easier and cheaper to coach Cousins into not being spooked into interceptions all day than it seems to be to train RGIII to play pocket. And like I said the team would be better if you had done that. Cousins would probably not have been a franchise quality QB under any circumstances but he would have been a decent starter I think. And let`s face it: that`s all Russell Wilson is at NFL levels too. The team around him makes him look very good but I don`t think he is. No reason that couldn`t happen with Cousins too.

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 1:42 PM

          Kirk Cousins has not been clutch under pressure in the pros since 2013.

          Sure, he was in 2012 so… How does that make him different than Griffin?

          The honest truth is that both Griffin & Kirk have been underwhelming since 2012. Griffin’s has been because of injury, Kirk’s been becsuse well, he’s just been inconsistent. Again, both are only in their mid 20’s the skins need to hold onto one of them long term because most of the top 10 qbs in the nfl are in their 30’s. So, that tells me that qbs are like a fine wine, they get better with age!

        • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM

          That`s certainly true. Not saying it`s easy playing QB in the NFL or anything.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - May 20, 2015 at 10:44 AM

          How do you figure? RG3 has a career QB rating of 90 and Cousins is 77. Rg3 has a 64% completion percentage to Cousins 59%. You seem to forget all the balls that Bounced off of Defenders hands Cousins threw the last couple years. Cousins is nowhere near as good as RG3. Your looking at a horrible Oline that can’t pass block and blaming that on the QB

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 10:44 AM

          Because trading draft picks is stupid, even if it’s for Laverneus Coles, Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Jason Taylor, Donovan McNabb or Jammal Brown.

          Last year the Browns offered the skins a 4th round pick for Cousins, but Allen turned it down because of it doesn’t work out for Griffin this year in DC, it still may for Cousins.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - May 20, 2015 at 11:07 AM

          I was asking Skulb how he figured Cousins was better. Also I’ve never seen anything that we were ordered anything for Cousins and if the Browns did offer a pick why didn’t they try again with Scott when he made it ClearCousins was up for trade. His direct Quote was There have bin No calls for Cousinsn Thats Coming from the GM not an ” Anonymous Source “

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 11:12 AM

          I’m not talking about this offseason. In the 2014 offseason – a year ago when Kyle was in Cle – the Browns offered a 4th for Cousins & Bruce Allen turned it down.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - May 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM

          Again why didn’t they try again with Scott? Who stated they offered a pick? “Anonymous Source “?

        • abanig - May 20, 2015 at 11:39 AM

          Don’t know call Scoty! ;)

  5. kenlinkins - May 19, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    IMO Until the Redskins see just what RG3 can do in 2015 they can not place a market value on his next contract. All I know for sure right now is that RG3 has become the lightening rod for everything that is wrong with the Redskins (be that fair or unfair). Like most Redskins fans I have been disappointed with the results to date and I have always disliked the cost to gain his services. This year will give us Redskins fans (and the team management)all the data required to make plans for 2016 and beyond. Let’s just hope RG3 has a winning year and shows the development to match the talent that made him the toast of the NFL in 2012. I for one will be watching the preseason games closely to see if all the changes and an injury free off-season has placed RG3 on the right path to becoming a winning NFL QB. RG3’s production is still the biggest question mark for the 2015 Redskins.

    • ET - May 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM

      “The cost to retain his services” is a huge part of the general dissatisfaction with Robert. The cost in draft picks was brutal. Tannehill has never had that burden lurking over him, and so his production is viewed more holistically. When looking at the overall numbers, it’s clear that Robert has done ok even if he hasn’t set the league aflame. Once we mentally add in the mortgaged picks, however, objectivity becomes much more difficult.

      • Josè - May 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM

        Dude, Ryan has been questioned about his issues at the QB position, just not as widely known as Rg3, 2012 rookie of the year, 2nd overall pick. I mean, people he has a new coach and playbook in his 3rd year as a drop back passer. What all the true NFL analysts say, “it’s gonna take some time for him to adjust.” I’m not making excuses but these things aren’t so smoothly fixed when you have to change your perspective of the game and function primarily within the pockect. Stop with the comparison with Ryan, our defense has been Beyond awful. RG3 with his bad seasons rating are with this guy that has been rising. I hope he gets a chance to prove to Scott that he will take what is his. With the new OL coach and bigger bodies on the OL and improved defense (DL and Secondary) , I like our chances.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 7:50 PM

          Griffin’s 2013 season was similar to Tanehill’s and that was with Robert coming off his knee surgery and getting benched for no good reason the final 3 games of the year.

    • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 3:33 PM

      I agree. I would like to point out Griffin’s production averaged during the last three weeks of last season. I think it forecasts what we will see in 2015 from him:

      67%, 264 yds a game, 1 TD, 1 int,(those can be different though over the course of a season), 8.8 yds per completion, 89 RTG & 25 yards rushing.

      If Griffin has those averages over 16 games, he’s going to end up:

      67% compete, around 20 tds, 4,224 yds, ints in the teens and 400 yards rushing with 4 tds rushing.

      If Griffin does that, and Gruden runs the ball more with Morris & Matt Jones and the Redskins defense plays as a top 15 defense, the Redskins will challenge the Division championship I believe.

      • ET - May 19, 2015 at 4:10 PM

        You make an excellent point with the extrapolated numbers. That kind of season would be good, not great, but certainly attainable if Griffin and his supporting cast can stay focused. If the Skins can re-ignite the rushing attack, that’ll make Robert’s job a lot easier.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 4:29 PM

          I mean, it’s not like ONLY Robert that needs to play better for the Redskins to be successful this season. Robert could play exactly how he did in 2012 and if the OL doesn’t block consistently for him and Alfred and wrs drop first downs, possible touchdowns and fumble on key drives in the game they will still lose. If the special teams give up kick offs for tds, the skins will lose. If the defense blows coverages and misses tackles, they’ll lose.

          The only player in the team that doesn’t need to play better in 2015 is Kerrigan, but even if you ask Kerrigan he’ll tell you he needs to play better as we.

        • ET - May 19, 2015 at 6:55 PM

          Right, I am assuming we factor in the recent upgrades and depth as well, at even a conservative baseline. All three phases of the game must improve under your scenario, but Griffin remains one of the largest—if not the largest. We can reasonably expect the DL, the OL and ST units to improve. Secondary should be improved, LBs, TEs, WRs should hold steady or improve. As Rich has noted in many posts, Scot is attempting to give Robert the cast needed to improve.

          What’s interesting about the numbers you provided is that Robert doesn’t need to overproduce in order for the team to be respectable. That’s good to see, as well as affirmation of what many of have been thinking—give this team balance and depth, and Robert can succeed without unrealistic expectations.

        • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 7:11 PM

          Yeah, all Robert or even Kirk for that matter has to do is be consistent every game.

      • abanig - May 19, 2015 at 8:01 PM

        In 2013 if Shanahan hadn’t benched Griffin to “protect him from getting injured” and so they could trade Kirk for a first round pick” how’d that work out?

        Griffin would have thrown for:

        3,942 yds, 20 tds, 15 ints for a 85 RTG and rushed for: 112 carries & 638 yds

  6. ajbus1 - May 19, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Heard this today and thought it was funny: In 1991 Dan Marino signed a 5 year, 23 million dollar contact. The biggest ever in the NFL at the time.

    • Skulb - May 20, 2015 at 5:45 AM

      Lots of inflation since then though. 23 million was some serious money back in the early 90s before “quantitative easing” in DC.

  7. Brian - May 21, 2015 at 12:16 AM

    The year RG3 took the skins to the playoffs the NFC east was pathetic. Tannehill gets better every year. He only started 19 at QB in college. He is more durable. He had the fifth best completion percentage in the NFL last year. On top of everything else, what the skins had to give up to trade up for him was ridiculous. If the skins wanted to sell tickets in 2012, mission accomplished. If they wanted to compete for a decade, total failure. See ya week one! Phins up!

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