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Redskins Draft Countdown: Miami OT Ereck Flowers

Apr 25, 2015, 1:30 PM EDT

The NFL Draft is just a week away and I’ll continue researching the prospects throughout the lead-up to the draft. Along the way I’ll be sharing some of what I find out with Real Redskins readers. The focus will be on players in areas of need for the Redskins but I might look at players at just about any position since Scot McCloughan has said that he will take the best player available regardless of need.

Ereck Flowers
Offensive tackle
Miami (FL)

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What they’re saying:

Strengths: Big, athletic frame carrying more than 320 pounds with ease. Ascending mauler in the run game. Bender who is low man off snap and pops hips into block to leverage defender at the point. Combines hips, arm extension and upper-body power to consistently turn his man when base blocking. Once he gets upper hand in run game, he usually sustains and finishes. Secures combo block with a vengeance. Has feet to become solid zone blocker. Mean and highly competitive. Wants to dominate and gets surly when beaten on a snap.

Weaknesses: Pass protection needs plenty of work. Footwork gets sloppy and undisciplined, causing base to narrow. Ducks head into contact and is a leaner in pass pro, creating balance problems. Rarely flat-footed upon initial hand contact. Throws hands rather than firing authoritative punch. Hands ride too high and too wide. Content to become grabby around framework of defender. Flagged for six holding penalties over last two seasons.

Lance Zierlein, NFL.com

How he fits the Redskins: Robert Griffin III recently recounted a conversation he had with Scot McCloughan about the Redskins getting “tough in the trenches”. If that really is their goal they should take a close look at Flowers. I particularly like the parts in the strengths description above where Zierlein talks about Flowers being “mean and highly competitive” and says that “he usually sustains and finishes.” You don’t always find those traits in such big players.

He looks like someone the Redskins could drop in at right tackle opposite Trent Williams and have bookends for the next five years or so. And, although most Redskins fans don’t like to think about this, should Williams depart in free agency after this season, Flowers has the ability to move to left tackle.

Potential issues: His technique is sloppy, particularly in pass protection. It’s odd that he is very light on his feet (at times he moves like someone who is about 30 pounds lighter) but he still has plenty of problems with his footwork.

As we’ve noted here, it’s not unusual for big college players to have some poor fundamentals. They can physically dominate regardless of hand placement or other such technical details. When they get into the NFL and football becomes a full-time job the coaches can work with them to clean up the issues. It will be up to McCloughan to determine if Flowers will be willing to put in the time and if he will be responsive to the coaching.

Flowers also had an oddly ineffective game against Virginia and their edge rusher, Eli Harold. Harold is projected to be a second-round pick so he’s a solid player. But if you have an off day against him you aren’t going to get your quarterback seriously injured. If you have a bad day when Jason Pierre-Paul or J.J. Watt is lined up against you, it could be a different story.

Bottom line: Flowers has visited Redskins Park so there could be some interest there. Earlier in the draft process many projected him to be a second-round pick. But now it looks like he might not last past the middle of the first round. If the Redskins trade back to the middle of the first, Flowers could well be on their radar.

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  1. skinsfan76 - Apr 25, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    This guy won’t be there in the 2nd round. I guess the only way to get him is this trading down thing I keep hearing about. Very possible!

    • bangkokben - Apr 25, 2015 at 8:02 PM

      That’s what folks were saying last year about Morgan Moses. Not saying your wrong. Just holding out hope.

      • skinsfan76 - Apr 26, 2015 at 8:01 AM

        That’s a good point. Moses was going late first in most mocks. We shall see… it’s almost here! Draft in a few days!

  2. jtaylor68 - Apr 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Rich, this is another “what if ” question. If, the skins were to trade the 5th pick to N.O. for the 13th and 31st to select Flowers and Erving while adding Laken Tomlinson with a 2nd round pick, could you see 3 rookies starting on the O-line ?

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 25, 2015 at 6:35 PM

      Well, yes and no. I suppose of that happened, yes, there’s a chance that all three would start at some point during the season. But, no, I see zero chance of that happening.

    • redskinscaio - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM

      That would be awesome!

    • ajbus1 - Apr 26, 2015 at 1:21 PM

      The D would still be terrible.

  3. timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 25, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    I would like to see our Draft go like this

    1. Vic Beasley OLB.
    2. Phillip Dorsett WR.
    3. John Miller OG.
    4. Jamon Brown OT. ( I would play him at Gaurd )
    5. Tony Lippett WR/CB ( I would play him at Safety )
    6. Shaq Mason G ( I would play him at Center )
    7. Bryan Bennett QB

    • Ju Diamondz - Apr 26, 2015 at 12:08 AM

      We need o line with those top picks I’m pretty sure you watched every game you could last season that line played like $h!+ every game except against Jacksonville the monday nite Dallas game and Saturday game against the eagles

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 8:33 AM

        These are the players I like at those spots. If Dorsett is gone by the second pick I would get an Olineman there but I don’t see us getting one at 5 and wouldn’t pass up Beasley very productive and very athletic can play any linebacker position in a 3-4 or 4-3 thats rare. Dorsett is a playmaker averaged over 20 yards per catch every year in college very fast could be the next Santana Moss. I see us signing a Veteran Tackle after the Draft these guys will fix the middle of the Oline. If we Draft these guys and sign a Veteran Tackle with the guys we already have Williams, Moses, Long we would have a pretty decent Oline with Depth.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:51 AM

          The next Santana Moss? Jackson and Garcon are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than Moss.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 12:01 PM

          Duh..Im not talking about now. In his Prime. Moss was unstoppable in his prime. Teams rolled coverage and double teamed him and he still made plays. Garcon couldn’t hold a candle to moss in his prime.

  4. redskinscaio - Apr 25, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    I would wet my pants if the Skins drafted Flowers. He would look great in the Burgundy and Gold.

  5. redskinscaio - Apr 25, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    We need to draft this guy.

  6. hk2000 - Apr 25, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    The biggest weakness of our OL is pass blocking, shouldn’t that be the number 1 priority. I guess the line coach needs to be the one to evaluate the player they pick for the OL, but maybe a player whose strength is pass blocking would be a safer bet.

    • bangkokben - Apr 25, 2015 at 11:00 PM

      If a right tackle’s strengths were pass blocking he’d be a left tackle.

      • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 8:38 AM

        Coming from a guy that wants RG3 to step up in the pockect on a bootleg. ( Jacksonville game Play RG3 got hurt) It was a bootleg with Jackson running a slant he played it how it was drawn up. There is no pocket in a bootleg.

        • bangkokben - Apr 26, 2015 at 11:55 AM

          Yes a designed bootleg but no need to run right if he hits Jackson initially. He was set. If he throws the pressure wouldn’t have even fazed him. The pressure comes from #51 who seems to be spying Griffin at the 1st down marker. You’re right no need to step up. See video: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000394200/article/redskins-defense-hammers-jaguars-into-oblivion

          Notice he has ten yards between him and the rush (0:14). The defense is completely fooled by the play design. Griffin is set at the 50, the rush ten yards away and fooled, the spy is 14-15 yards away at the 1st down marker. Jackson is WIDE open at the 30 breaking inside directly in front of Griffin on the same hash, and never mind Logan Paulsen is open to the left also at the 30. This pass to Jackson will likely need some touch but a pass he can make. If you see the all-22 it is more clear. Yet, Griffin is late in seeing it – in seeing everything. He never sees the spy until he’s right on top of him as Griffin drifts right and upfield. The ‘spy’ is running for Griffin as soon as it is clear that there is NO pressure (0:14), #51 actually creates more space for Jackson. Griff has 1.5 seconds to make a throw before pressure arrives. Instead he makes an athletic move avoiding the pressure and hits a still WIDE open Jackson as his foot come off.

          However, the point that I was making was that notable people in the organization that know the offense (Chris Cooley) and know the design of the play say that Jackson was open before Griffin bailed to his right but Griffin didn’t see him. The video backs up what they say.

          As for my comment on right tackle’s do tell how this is related?

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM

          He didn’t bail to the right. He bootlegged to the right while the whole line blocked and moved to the left. He was obviously looking down field for the deeper route which didn’t open so he dumped it off to Jackson. Cooley wasn’t in that offense or in the huddle for that play. So how does he or you know who the ball was supposed to go to? Looks to me the deep route which wasn’t open so he dumped it off. The point is you said step up into a pocket that doesn’t exist. If you are gonna point out a person’s mistake make sure you pick out a mistake and not a play that was ran the way it was designed.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 3:34 PM

          BTW Jackson was coming out of his break as Griffin was turning around and there was a defender in zone in front ofhim throwing then would have bin an interception.

        • bangkokben - Apr 26, 2015 at 7:52 PM

          Stop being an apologist! It is easy to see with your own eyes. If you want make up fairy tales and believe them then you’re beyond help. Jackson is making a break and is open. The defender you mention being in front of him is the same guy that gives Griffin pressure. I already mentioned what kind of throw was needed. Whateves! Enjoy it this year when Griffin does well but it won’t have anything to do with the rainbows and unicorns you’re watching.

        • timwillhidetimwillhide - Apr 26, 2015 at 9:59 PM

          excuse me but you were the one who said he should step up into a pocket that didn’t exist, thought the defense was playing man when they where playing zone, drscribed jackson as runnung a Post and had to come back to the ball when he was running a slant. The guy that was a yard or 2 away from Jackson in zone when Jackson was coming out of his break went deep too help cover Paulson He wasn’t the same guy who put pressure on RG3. The guy that did cause Pressure was the MLB and wasn’t a spy he was running a Delayed Blitz. RG3 was clearly looking to throw the ball down field to who looks like Garcon who looked like he was running a deep fade possibly and when the Blitzer came he dumped it off to Jackson. Don’t get mad at me because I pointed out you can’t tell whats going on in the game and who is doing what.

      • redskinscaio - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:52 AM

        haha, that’s funny and so true

      • hk2000 - Apr 26, 2015 at 2:04 PM

        All I’m saying is that our weakness is pass blocking, it makes no sense to draft a guy whose weakness is also pass blocking. Are you saying there are NO right tackles who are good pass blockers? I’m sorry but that’s just not true.

        • bangkokben - Apr 26, 2015 at 7:01 PM

          “Are you saying there are NO right tackles who are good pass blockers? I’m sorry but that’s just not true.”

          I am and I am not. I’m saying that right tackles strengths generally are in the run game. Some guys are playing right tackle in the NFL that were drafted to eventually move to the left but the reason that they’re on the right is because they need to develop their pass blocking to the NFL LT level. Most NFL LTs are drafted in the 1st half of the 1st round because of the importance of the position.

          “All I’m saying is that our weakness is pass blocking, it makes no sense to draft a guy whose weakness is also pass blocking.”
          You’re saying the line’s weakness is pass blocking. The front office and the coaching staff isn’t saying that. The coach was blaming the pass pro issues last year on the backs – including quarterback – and tight ends but was also blasting the o-line for not being physical enough in the run game.

          Never mind that. There are RTs that are fine pass blockers but no one has ever heard of them. Every pro-bowl and all-pro tackle for years has played on the left side. The guy protects the blind side.

          If a guy coming out of college is projected as a right tackle but played left tackle in college he is not an NFL level pass blocker. In other words – pass blocking is a weakness. Scherf who is esteemed the best o-linemen in this draft played LT in college but his talents project at the pro-level as a guard or RT. If he does become a RT; he’ll probably develop into a good pass blocker.

  7. Ju Diamondz - Apr 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    He would be a great upgrade to the o line and if we trade down and get him that extra pick can can help to add some depth on the o line we got to improve there to have a real chance at winning some games

    • Ju Diamondz - Apr 25, 2015 at 11:58 PM

      With coach Gruden wanting to change from zone run to power run we really should drafto line with those 1st 2 picks! We need a pass rusher 2 but o line has to be at the top of the list we have to up grade that o line this year we can’t wait another year 4 that

  8. warpath1 - Apr 26, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    Is it Thursday yet? HTTR

  9. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Thanks, Rich, I was hoping you’d get to this guy. I think he has the highest ceiling of the OTs in this draft, although obviously he needs more development (which does imply some risk).

    Something worth noting: he’s only 20 years old. (Or maybe just turned 21…April 25, 1994, I think.)
    ~

  10. shermanp79 - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Long ago I made mention of Williams contract, would they want to put that money out while building. He is young and it makes sense to sign him. The one hesitation is his play the past couple years. He has also been hurt. I still believe if you have a LT then you keep them, pay them market price. This guy (Flowers)may be the 1st T taken, he obviously would help the OL. My issue is they just took another guy last year to play RT and I think he gets a year with Callahan, they take a G or C this year later(not #5) in the Draft. The pressure up the middle is a more pressing issue, especially switching to a power scheme. NO WAY Kory can be our starting C next year.
    In the end value will win out and we need OL, I guess they can figure who plays where down the road. A T they feel could move to G down the road might make the most sense. What are the teams thoughts regarding Mosses, that is the key. They talk about flexibility, a good place for it is on the OL. All our great OL in history had flexible guys. I believe a couple OL are added through the Draft. I guess we will see which positions.

    • redskinscaio - Apr 26, 2015 at 10:55 AM

      Great comment. I’d love to see Moses emerge as the pro bowl caliber player I know he can be. Dude is huge too.

  11. charge1 - Apr 26, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    RG3 said the coach wants to surround him with ten best people he can. He has not signed an offensive player since the free agency began. I say go with these three qbs and play the best one. Take an edge rusher or Cooper with first pic and lean heavy on offense with the rest of the pics especially o line.

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