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Plenty of pros and cons to Redskins’ decision on RG3 contract option

Apr 22, 2015, 2:55 PM EDT

RG3-passing-vs-Vikings

According to a Washington Post report, the Redskins may be inclined to exercise their fifth-year option on Robert Griffin III unless they end up selecting Marcus Mariota on April 30, the first day of the NFL draft. Since it seems unlikely that Mariota will still be available, it looks like they could decide to extend the option, which comes with a one-year salary of about $16.5 million.

There are upsides and there are downsides to activating Griffin’s option. If he reverts to the form that he displayed in 2012, when he was rookie of the year and led the Redskins to their only playoff appearance in the last seven years, then the $16.5 million will be a very reasonable salary for Griffin in 2016, perhaps a bargain. If he does not improve from 2014, when he struggled to be effective when passing from the pocket in head coach Jay Gruden’s offense and missed games to injury as well, the team can simply withdraw the option. It is guaranteed for injury only (and the injury bar is very high, to the point where he would have to miss the whole season) as long as they cancel it prior to the start of the league year in March.

But suppose he plays like he did in 2013, when he showed some flashes of his 2012 form but was inconsistent to the point where Mike Shanahan benched him at the end of the year? That might be good enough to want to keep him around to see if he will develop further but not good enough to warrant a $16.5 million salary. Of the possible outcomes here, boom, bust, or somewhere in between, this in between scenario is the most likely.

Then you are stuck with trying to negotiate a deal with him when he and his agent will see his starting point $16 million for 2016 since that essentially is the offer that’s on the table. The Redskins would essentially be trying to negotiate a pay cut for a player they want to build around. That’s never a good thing and Washington would be working from a position of weakness.

There is another option, although time is running short to get it done. I think that the best thing for the Redskins and Griffin to do is negotiate a short-term extension. Although exercising the option does not preclude working out an extension, it complicates it for the reasons outlined above.

He is guaranteed a $3.4 million salary for this year as part of his rookie deal so you have to write that into it. Do a two-year deal, guarantee him a total of $10 million and give him a modest 2016 salary that can escalate if he reaches performance benchmarks. After two years they will know where they stand and can either part ways or negotiate a longer extension.

The ace in the hole for the Redskins is the franchise tag. Should Griffin revert to his 2012 form in 2015 and the Redskins are having difficulty signing him they would have the option of giving him the franchise tag. That would be somewhere in the vicinity of $20 million. It’s not that $4 million more is not significant but in the scheme of a cap that is likely to be $150 million in 2016, it’s not a difference that is very damaging to the cap.

We will see what Scot McCloughan decides to do in the draft and then regarding the Griffin option. It will make for a few interesting days in early May.

  1. Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 3:11 PM

    I hope they do resign griffin

  2. abanig - Apr 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM

    It’s really a low risk decision. They skins might as well offer the option. As you said, if he plays poorly again this year they can cut him without any cap hit as the extension is only guaranteed for injury.

    Extending the 5th year option to Griffin may also help get his confidence back in the organization that they actually want him around. With that confidence we will see a qb who played closer to the one in 2012 instead of the indecisive qb we saw for most of the 2013 & 2014 seasons.

    • Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 3:39 PM

      I agree with but the griffin haters will want him gone… My thing is why draft mariotta? Why because he is new? If he has the same skill set as griffin then why waste time on the same project when you can develop the one you have

      • renhoekk2 - Apr 22, 2015 at 4:29 PM

        Because if you are going to have a “project” at QB it’s better to pay him about $3.5M in 2016 instead of $16M. And Griffin is still a project going into year 4. And that’s a problem that no one wants to recognize.

        • Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:46 PM

          Ok denim all for a cheap opition but Marcus will be a project to but why get another project guy as you said that will have to change to a pocket qb? What makes you think he is gonna get the time to develop into one if they won’t do it for griff

        • Skulb - Apr 22, 2015 at 8:36 PM

          @Stephfan

          He`s been given all the time his injuries have allowed him hasn`t he? And that`s really the problem I guess, because he`s been injured in some way almost since he got drafted. His knee got hit on December 9, 2012 and he was never right after that until he could barely stand against Seattle. Then all of 2013 with this until he got benched the last three games when the season was a bust. He was supposed to return last season and then he got the ankle injury and six more games out and then crap and back to the bench.
          Time is not really the problem here. Even with all his injury problems he`s played 37 games for Washington so far. The problem is that you can rely on him because of his injury proneness and the depressing fact that he has gotten steadily worse while he`s been in DC. If he was bad but getting better I don`t think people would have any problems with it. But he went from exceptional to mediocre to plain out bad from 2012 to 2014.

          I even like the guy. But his performances are just very uninspiring because of these unpleasant facts. If he makes a comeback in 2015 and plays as well as we hoped he would when he got drafted I`ll be as happy as anybody. I`ve just stopped expecting it, and so have a lot of other fans. Doesn`t make us haters.

        • Skulb - Apr 22, 2015 at 8:37 PM

          @Stephfan

          Oh boy, that was supposed to read “can`t rely on him”. I guess that was obvious from the context, but still.

      • Albert - Apr 25, 2015 at 5:12 PM

        Nailed it

      • sidepull - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:16 AM

        Because maybe the new project isn’t going to be injured all the time. Maybe he will, but 3’s propensity for injury does not equate to confidence in his availability and projection to be a log term starter.

    • Albert - Apr 25, 2015 at 5:12 PM

      Couldn’t agree more

  3. brucefan1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    I hadn’t heard of this option before of Griffin possibly working out an extension of his present contract by negotiating a salary somewhere between his rookie numbers and that 5th year option number!

    But it does seems like a viable option tho! Nice!

    Whether he leans that way or not may go to the heart of what Robert’s level of confidence in himself (Or the team? Or the coach?) is at this point in time. Does he go safe, and settle for the smaller number for a few years, hoping that things eventually come together, or does he risk rolling the dice, play out his fifth year (with or without the extension) and then sell his wares on the open market — or convince the Skins to franchise him — in 2016?

    I’ve been of the mind that if the Skins didn’t pick up that extension, RG3 would be gone ASAP. But lately I’ve been hearing that he’s REALLY buying into Scott Mac’s vision for the team. Now I would speculate that a fair contract extension like Rich laid out, coupled with a strong belief in SM, might be enough to keep him in B&G for at least a little while longer.

    • renhoekk2 - Apr 22, 2015 at 4:57 PM

      I can’t imagine any team signing a QB to a contract extension with a 5-15 record the last two seasons. You only get so many years to “reach your potential”. Brian Hoyer was 10-6 the last two seasons in CLE and didn’t get a new contract. Nick Foles was 14-4 the last two seasons and he got traded. Only the most apologetic Griffin fans can justify 5-15 worth getting a contract extension. Like they say…”The film doesn’t lie.”

      The talk is to either to increase trade value or make teams believe they have no interest in Mariota so teams don’t feel compelled to jump ahead of them if he falls past pick 2. Why else would all of this be coming out now 1 week before the draft?

      • bangkokben - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM

        Football is a team sport. It’s not like the Redskins are 5-15 with Griffin but 8-8 without him. Instead they’re 2-10. Therefore the quarterback is a symptom of the problem not the problem in and of itself. So building around Griffin would be because the organization sees that as a way forward as opposed to build around the quarterback and find a quarterback.

        • ajbus1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 10:21 PM

          I completely agree bangkokben. Let me pose two questions: Would we be any better with Russel Wilson? Would the Shehawks have been to the last two Superbowls with RG?

      • Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:51 PM

        Ren griff give more upside than the qb’s you mention if he pans out. And let not act like hoyer or foles was that great? Their defense lead them to that record. Tape may not lie as you say but griff can only get better. And if they sign him to an extention it would be good do they could focus on getting other needs on the draft!

        • brucefan1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 6:15 PM

          And the fact that those other two guy’s teams let them go elsewhere says SOMETHING about them, no?

          (Or would it be more about their team’s shot callers? Only time will tell.)

        • Skulb - Apr 22, 2015 at 8:42 PM

          “griff can only get better.”

          Truer words were never spoken. He was so abysmal last season that it is hard to see how it could have been much worse. I suppose he could manage to stay as bad as that for another season if we`re lucky. But even that would take some work I think.

        • Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 9:40 PM

          So skull McCoy and cousins was better? How many games has cousin won in his entire three years? one game but everyone loves him, the turnover machine. How many games has McCoy won as a redskin his career? One games as well but some of you think he is better? A guy that was a bust and became a destined back up… But griffin has won more games and brought us a division championship. What I’m saying is you don’t give up on a quaterback because of bad play. If they finally build the team around him which means changing up the offense a bit for him to win will help. Which gruden was reluectant to do but when he did do it he went away from it. If they stick with what griff can do he will be fine. A better defense won’t hurt either

        • Skulb - Apr 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM

          Both Cousins and McCoy certainly were better last season, although it was a complete mess all round and not much to go on. Cousins Philly game was by far the best QB performance of any of them last season even though they lost the game. That certainly wasn`t his fault.
          Apparently though the only games the Redskins are able to win are games where the QB gets injured and the replacement successfully takes over.
          All I`m saying is that I don`t buy the “not enough time” thing. The problem is the total lack of progress and even regress of Griffin last season. He looked alright before the ankle injury and could very well have had a good season. But after returning he made some real blunders in an otherwise decent Minnesota game before he just stunk it up big time against really bad teams.
          I do agree you have to make a decision and stick with it through some rough patches. I`m not so sure I agree anymore than it necessarily has to be Griffin though, considering the injuries and everything. Whatever they decide I really think 2015 is Griffin`s last shot at proving himself in DC. If he at least shows signs of moving in the right direction and can stay injury free then they should go with him long term. If he can`t then you might as well go with Cousins.
          Yes McCoy is a backup. but what in the world is your third stringer doing starting games? It just demonstrates how unacceptably the other two were playing. You can find no arguments there to sell me on either Griffin or Cousins.

        • Stephfan - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM

          Ok, I’ll leave it alone.

      • sidepull - Apr 23, 2015 at 7:48 AM

        You are what your record says you are.

  4. warpath1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    Planning on Robert being our longterm solution for qb is problematic. I would perfer that he plays well and is healthy. I just dont think he can stay on the field, let along play well. I think we have to draft a qb this year so he will be ready next year whether he is the next starter or the next backup

    • Skulb - Apr 22, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      This is my concern as well. I would prefer it is he played average and stayed on rather than play two good games and then injure himself again. The ankle business last season just looked …weird. He was on the flat with no one close to him and off comes the foot. Just the weirdest thing ever and he looked really fragile. Maybe bad luck but he had better shake it anyway. Two seasons lots to injuries of three possible is already too much.

    • sidepull - Apr 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM

      His health will not make him a Franchise for any team. He is not physically able to withstand the pounding he will get in a long term franchise career. He would be better coming off the bench for somebody in relief. He is not going to have this storybook career like some of you think. It will be cut short, just like we have seen. Have some Kool Aid and chill.

  5. skinsgame - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    To invoke the option of his contract would be sheer stupidity. 2/3 of his professional career has been abysmal. Remarkably awful, if he’s even been healthy. I’m all for them extending him a year for a fraction of that option but he’s done literally nothing to earn $16 million guaranteed. If he is awesome this year, they can franchise him and work it out that way.

    • bangkokben - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:59 PM

      I agree with you about the franchise tag and it does seem like doubling down on a bad bet but the risk of actually having to fork over $16M is low.

    • brucefan1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM

      Sorry skinsgame, but… 2/3 of his professional career? Really? Did you think you were gonna slip that one by us? LOL

      2/3 of his THREE YEAR professional career equals – 1 year great/2 years bad.

      We’re talking THREE years!!

      Not TWELVE. Or even NINE! In that case — 3 years good/6 years bad — you would have a real sample size. Talk to us then.

      (BTW, only hardcore anti-Griifin types would use the term “abysmal” to describe his last two seasons. Don’t think McCloughan would be taking a chance on an “abysmal” quarterback.)

      • Stephfan - Apr 22, 2015 at 6:16 PM

        Ontop of that skinsfan you rather give griff 20 mil to franchise him but won’t give him 16 mil? So you’ll give him more money?

        • skinsgame - Apr 22, 2015 at 11:58 PM

          I absolutely would. If he played well enought o earn the franchise tag, I’d be overjoyed. I won’t hold my breath.

      • Skulb - Apr 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM

        Go watch the Bucs game man. If that`s not an abysmal quarterback you can call me Susan. Just every snap was atrocious and like watching someone else`s nightmare where they`re stuck in tar and can`t move. You can spare us your random categorizations of people who disagree with you. I`ll second skinsgame and say that Griffin has ranged from average to abysmal in 2013-2014 with a couple of nice plays throw in once in a while. There is no need for you to call me “hardcore anti Griffin” because of this. If you do then I will be forced to call you a “Griffin fluff boy hype train passenger”. How does that sound?

        • brucefan1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 9:26 PM

          Hahaha! Who you trying to kid, Skulb? You’re not hardcore anti-Griffin?!

          You mention ONE game and then you call his whole season “abysmal”! The tone of the comments you’ve made here today are strongly anti-Griffin ! You dump on him repeatedly and seem to be unwilling to give him ANY benefit of the doubt for anything that’s happened over the last two years — such as being part of a generally crappy team (which he, like most of his teammates. & coaches, has undeniably contributed to.) You totally rag on him for suffering a freak injury, as if he brought it on himself – and it’s sure to happen again & again.

          And you’re saying you’re NOT hard-core anti-Griffin?! And your “I even like the guy” lip service isn’t fooling anyone…except yourself maybe. Oldest cop out in the book. If you aren’t a prime example of hard-core anti-Griffin, no one is!

          But that’s okay, lotsa Redskin fans are! And they all say pretty much the same thing as you. But I have more respect for those who at least have the honesty to own up to it…not run from it.

        • Skulb - Apr 23, 2015 at 9:59 AM

          You`re too dumb to bother with to be honest. I prefer adult conversation and obviously that`?s not gonna be possible with you. Good day!

      • skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 12:02 AM

        Did you think “2/3” was intended to be sly? lol. He’s been lousy for 2 of 3 years. That does not equal a $16 million payday, in my opinion. And yes, I do mean abysmal. So bad, he was benched for Colt McCoy. Awful.

        • Stephfan - Apr 23, 2015 at 12:23 AM

          He may habe gotten benched and McCoy took over but remember cousins had his chance and gruden didn’t wanna give ur back to Him, so in a sense you can say he must not have faith in both qb’s. But will be the one starting? Why because he is the best one out of te three and I believe he csn bounce back

        • skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 6:31 AM

          Saying Griffin is good because Cousins was bad is, hopefully, not the way the front office sees it. We aren’t discussing Cousins here. He doesn’t have an impending $16 million decision.

      • skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 7:57 AM

        Also, you’re overstating his one good year and calling it “great”. It was great FOR A ROOKIE. And he hasn’t come close to duplicating it.

        • bangkokben - Apr 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM

          Random truth police citation: UNTRUE!

          Look up that stats. That was one of the greatest seasons by any Redskin quarterback ever or do you not include his running stats? As for rookie QB seasons – top three all time.

        • skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 4:13 PM

          Include the running stats all you want. The league shut his running down afterward and it’s a non-factor now. It was a good year, very solid.

        • Stephfan - Apr 23, 2015 at 4:18 PM

          Skinsgame what run game has been shut down? When does griffin ever run like he did when he was a Rookie? Nut when griffin does run it’s not shut down by any means

  6. bangkokben - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Greg Hardy gets suspended 10 games and the Redskins still face him twice.

  7. brucealmty - Apr 22, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Unless Griffin turns it around this year he’s on path to being one of the most expensive busts in NFL history. His performance to date should be the biggest of red flags for teams considering trading-up for this year’s franchise QB.

    • mr.moneylover - Apr 22, 2015 at 7:10 PM

      I think he will improve cause the QB coach

    • bangkokben - Apr 22, 2015 at 7:36 PM

      Cautionary tale? Really? Every future situation is different in someway from every past situation. Plenty was given up for Jay Cutler and Eli Manning. It looked like a great trade when the ‘skins traded back in 2011 and ended up with Ryan Kerrigan and Jarvis Jenkins instead of JJ Watt. There is risk in everything – including inaction. How Robert Griffin the 3rd’s career turns out has no consequence on Marcus Mariota’s career. Both guys are different people ending up in different teams under different circumstances.

      Bottom line: if Cleveland make’s a trade with Tennessee both teams have to live with the results and these things have a life of their own. After the 2012 regular season, the Redskins looked as if they fleeced the Rams; now it is the other way around. Who knows it could flip again. Crazier things have happened. Tim Tebow is back in the league after all.

  8. bob - Apr 22, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    No way in the world rg would get anything close to 16 mil for any one else. Skins would be crazy to extend option for 16. If he or agent has brain, 2 year extension makes sense.

  9. mr.moneylover - Apr 22, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    I think they feel confident that with the new strength and conditioning coach he will come in and help rg3 treat his body right way to prevent injury and on top of that rg3 havent had a QB coach since 2012 when he had that amazing season now he got one back in his corner to help him improve…in 2013 and 2014 hes been basically putting in work to get no results at the end…now he got help to focus on him jay gruden said he didnt realize looking in from the outside that rg3 and kirk cousins needed alot of work done…rg3 my advice to him is listen and ask alot of questions matt C. Got a good resume if he can fix mark burnell from what he was when he was in Jacksonville then he can definitely fix you and help you cause you more athletic

    • brucefan1 - Apr 22, 2015 at 10:48 PM

      Agreed, money.

      All indications are that many resources have been put in place to improve the QB play. The programs you mention, improved strength & conditioning and a dedicated QB coach in Cavanaugh are two important ones. Jeff Darlington, who have talked to Griffin recently says he’s doing regular film study. We discussed in recent weeks that hi-tech video training system that has been put in place in his gym. That he recently worked out with Garçon and other Redskin skill-players should be beneficial. Cousins has been dedicated to improvement too, spending time with Jon Gruden — which reports say Kirk found invaluable.

      So there’s no denying that a lot of work is being done to be better prepared when they get into camp. On top of all that, it’s kind of a no-brainer to think that all parties concerned are gonna strive to be on the same page as they prepare for the season, with a better knowledge of each other’s strengths and needs.

      Will all that guarantee improved play from all (or any) of the QBs? Of course not…they each have a long way to go! No one knows how this will turn out. But I can’t help being encouraged that if it IS possible for them to improve, all these activities, along with their dedicated effort, will go a long way toward accomplishing that goal.

  10. skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 12:37 AM

    A new tone in the rhetoric? It appears now that, if you can see that Griffin is in no way deserving of a $16 million option and are willing to say as much, you are “anti-Griffin”. That’s a step back from the normal hyperbole, “HATER!!” but just as ridiculous, if not more so. As if Redskins fans want Griffin to fail. “Anti-Griffin”. Lol.

    He stinks. He throws 2 yard out passes on 3rd and 13. He throws more check downs than Campbell did. He holds the ball FAR too long. He visually misses absolutely wide open receivers and does it with frequency. No evidence he can read a defense. Scrambles INTO sacks. Often. He’s a fumbler too. Drive killer. Injury prone. He’s been absolutely awful, mostly. Even so, I hope he comes out and kills it. I hope he wakes up, shuts up and puts up. I hope Jay Schroeder isn’t the best QB ever to wear #10 in a Redskins uniform. I hope he becomes worth $32 million per season.

    Call me a “Griffin doubter”. I don’t root against him or anyone else on the team. I am convinced that he will not play better and that the team is still in need of a QB and Robert is the one who convinced me of it. Well, my eyes convinced me after they watched Robert play. But as long as he wears maroon and yellow (sarc), I hope he turns it around and plays better. There aren’t any Griffin doubters who are also Redskins fans that feel any differently.

    • sidepull - Apr 23, 2015 at 8:15 AM

      Agreed. He does not pass the eye test. I think it would be the best thing ever for everybody if 3 could be a Franchise QB and have a lengthy career like franchise QB’s are expected to do. The Redskins do not want to have to go through this every season, should we or shouldn’t we? Will he revert back to 2012 for? Do we have enough pieces around him? Will this help his confidence? Can we get more coaches? Now its how much money do we give him? And I say it sucks that we are now in this position. Blame the O line all day log but in the end remember Indy had a terrible O line, maybe worse than ours. Luck makes it happen anyhow. Do you think they are going through these debates about the durability, heart, ego, or if Luck is a franchise QB? No they are not. Luck has won in spite of dire circumstances. he has been everything the Redskins have needed. I do not hate 3, I think he is a great guy, just not a Franchise QB. How does that make me or anybody a hater? I mean how long before you are allowed to think he is a bust? Is there a time frame for history? When you can actually say he was a great prospect but it didn’t work out? How long do you have to wait before people stop throwing hater around? I mean really? I don’t think anybody here is qualified, including myself to know how it will all turn out. But I am not throwing names around. I sincerely hope I am wrong about 3. Nothing would make me happier. It would solve a bunch of problems for the Redskins for years to come….You really believe the years too come part? I don’t.

    • renhoekk2 - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:12 AM

      Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better. I get the same grief for questioning Griffin’s lack of progress as an NFL QB.

    • mr.moneylover - Apr 23, 2015 at 11:10 AM

      You cant expect him to have success without a QB coach while trying to witch the style hes been playing for years…everything that happen the last two years are not all rg3 fault…most the time hes been sack with no help from his O-line…I would pick rg3 over every QB thats coming out of this year draft…when his O-line protect and alfred morris pick up his blocks we seen what this team can really do….go look at that eagles games when he got good protection and everybody did they job…he got a good support system around him and like I said if QB coach matt c. Can fix mark burnell he can fix rg3 so ppl need to calm down

  11. murphsman - Apr 23, 2015 at 7:58 AM

    As always, great article Rich. Didn’t think about that possibility of an extension. And thanks for better explaining about the injury guarantee

  12. renhoekk2 - Apr 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    I’m all for giving Griffin one last shot at being the QB answer in DC. But that’s what it has to be, one last shot. Let him start and play the first 8-10 games. If he doesn’t look like he’s improved from last year then they have to move on. Orakpo was an oft injured player who was good but not great, and I’m sure was hampered from playing on a poor team. I don’t recall seeing fans come to his defense like they are for Griffin. Why is that? Because most people thought the team could do better than Orakpo. Why is there the belief that they Skins can’t do better than Griffin? Orakpo had a great rookie season playing in a 4-3 defense. He never had the same type of season in a new 3-4 scheme. Like Griffin’s rookie season running the zone read option his rookie season before switching to a new West Coast scheme. Griffin=Orakpo. Everyone is excited about the team getting a new edge rusher to replace Orakpo. Talk about replacing Griffin and it’s like your kidnapping someone’s child. Trust me, I’m a Skins fan that wants nothing more than for them to win. If Griffin plays well and EARNS a contract extension, I’ll be thrilled.

    • bangkokben - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:44 AM

      “Why is there the belief that they Skins can’t do better than Griffin?”

      I can only speak for the sane here. When it comes to the draft OLB is a plug and play position. QB is not. It is not that the ‘skins can’t do better than Griffin but what is better? Another rookie quarterback from a college spread system? Sam Bradford? No and No. Eli Manning or Philip Rivers? With this team as it is today? Maybe. Idk.

      You are of the belief that there has been enough time on the Griffin experiment and are resigned to have ten more games before you’ve had more than enough. What does he have to do in those ten games to signify improvement for you? Is it all about wins and losses?

      I’m of the belief that because you spent so much for Griffin AND his historical rookie year AND what was said about him coming out of college that you exhaust his rookie contract before you move on. I was fine about not giving the option but do see its benefits (extra time, team identity, and team direction). So, I’d give six more games than you but if the team exercised the option give him another year BECAUSE the team isn’t run by a bunch of idiots anymore.

    • Stephfan - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM

      To ren I wanted orakpo to stay and voice for him to come back.

  13. bangkokben - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    The point of exercising the option is not EQUIVALENT to saying Griffin’s play has earned him $16M! IF the Redskins exercise the team option, it affords the team more time to get return on their investment. It gives the team options – pun intended.

    If Griffin has reached his ceiling already – as those labeled haters by Three’s sycophants say he has – then he will be released before the league year freeing up the $16M.

    If Griffin magically returns to rookie form then he will be given a new contract that probably will average around $16-$20M a year as that is the current average of the 15 top paid NFL quarterbacks. (Incidentally, this group currently does not including Luck and Wilson but will next year but does include Rivers and Eli who currently will become FAs next year.) Or the ‘skins could have Griffin play out his option in 2016 citing his injuries and inconsistencies as reasons for not giving the long-term contract thus saving $4M had they let this scenario play out and placed the franchise tag on THREE.

    The only way the team is on the hook for the $16M is if Griffin is prevented to play in 2016 due to injury.

    P.S. The decision has not been made yet. Must be done by May 3rd.

    • skinsgame - Apr 23, 2015 at 11:58 PM

      That’s the trouble. In 3 seasons, he’s been hurt all 3. If they pick that option up it’s all but certain he’s getting the $16 million.

      • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2015 at 11:53 AM

        That’s ridiculous! Griffin only gets the money if he’s injured in 2015 for ALL of 2016. More risk for the Redskins than for most teams but far from a certainty – in fact close to impossible.

        • skinsgame - Apr 24, 2015 at 3:11 PM

          Wait, wait…. Let’s assume the option is picked up. He tears his knee up again or breaks his ankle somewhere during the season in 2015. They can simply clip him in the offeseason before 2016 starts? If so, then fine. But there’s no way I can see they could clip him while he’s rehabbing for a year without paying him that salary.

        • bangkokben - Apr 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM

          That’s my understanding as well as my concern. Makes no sense for the players, doesn’t it? Then again; that’s the NFL. I’d have to look into it but I’d assume there could be an injury settlement similar to when guys get injured in camp but then again who knows. Let’s suppose a 2012 scenario – which is highly unlikely although quite possible – multiple-ligament tear in January (week 17 not playoffs). That time Griffin didn’t miss any games due to injury the following year and wouldn’t likely miss the entire year if a similar type occurred. BTW, I’m with you if rule was/is: any injury missing any time after league year. But apparently it’s not.

  14. Serge Simoncini - Apr 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    I think Scot knows already what to do. I don’t think we draft Mariota. He ( Scot ) gives him that extension and sees what plays out . I hope RG goes back to playing like 2012, this is his put up or shut up season. He either has it or not. The real bottom line is all us fans want a winning team one that can play week to week consistently. No drama , if this team is going to get somewhere in the near future it has to have a winning philosophy.

    • mr.moneylover - Apr 23, 2015 at 11:24 AM

      I think he will be a better pocket passer…ppl think its easy to learn the concepts of bein a pocket passer over night….alex smith and collin kapernick came out of college running the spread offense and it took both of them time to learn Collin kapernick is still learning but the difference is he has a better O-line and he had a vet running back in frank gore and having those two things take alot of pressure off a QB…scot m. Told rg3 he plan to put the best 10 guys around him on the field…in pass years players will play cause how much money they got on they contract scot m. Don’t care about that cause sometimes he said a college player will come in and try to prove he can play at a high level and its very possible the college players will out work the player who just got a nice contract

  15. Robert - Apr 23, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    They need to resign him,and let him play indeed of trying to alter his dam game,let him go back to doing What made him great.

  16. nativetexan2012 - Apr 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    No way I would re-sign Griffin until he proves he can do the job. Unless he shows remarkable improvement I think it’s time to move on.

  17. Maurice - Apr 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    RG3 is finished, his best years are behind him. Please repeat with me.. another Heath Shuler!

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