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Need to Know: Which offensive tackle might the Redskins take in the first round?

Apr 13, 2015, 5:06 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Monday, April 13, 17 days before the Washington Redskins go on the clock at the NFL draft.

Question of the day

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Today’s question is from Twitter:

First let’s work through a couple of assumptions here. One is the notion that the Redskins will trade back. I believe that Scot McCloughan wants to trade back but only is the right deal is there. He is not going to give away the pick and make a deal for the sake of making a deal.

And remember that while every team in the top five every year has multiple needs, giving them every incentive to want to trade down, the vast majority of top-five picks get used without being traded first.

The other assumption is that the Redskins would want to draft an offensive tackle in the first round if they did move back. The fact that they were very interested in a few right tackles during free agency is a good indication that McCloughan sees that the position could use an upgrade that Morgan Moses and Tom Compton won’t necessarily provide. But they weren’t interested enough to stay in the bidding when the price tag got to in the $5 million per year range so perhaps they don’t see the position as the five-alarm fire that many fans do. Perhaps it’s something they would address later in the draft.

But let’s say they do trade back and end up somewhere between the 10th and 15th pick in the first round and that they do have taking a tackle in mind. Who would McCloughan take? There are likely to be some good choices on the board and maybe one or two good ones who will be gone by the time the Redskins’ pick comes along.

We don’t have access to the Redskins’ draft board so let’s see how’s Mike Mayock has the offensive tackles ranked.

  1. La’el Collins, LSU
  2. Ereck Flowers, Miami (FL)
  3. J. Humphries, Florida
  4. Andrus Peat, Stanford
  5. Tie, T.J. Clemmings, Pitt, Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M

Note that Mayock ranks Brandon Scherff of Iowa as an interior lineman. Many analysts have him shifting from a college tackle to an NFL guard, although that will ultimately be up to the team that drafts him.

I think that the one the Redskins would go after if he’s still on the board is Flowers. McCloughan has a preference for bigger players and at 6-6, 329, Flowers fits that description. But he has good feet and moves like a much lighter player.

There’s no question that his technique needs a lot of work. But that’s not unusual for a player his size. His college position coach isn’t going to spend a whole lot of time coaching up a guy who can get the job done most of the time on his size and strength alone. After a season of polishing with Bill Callahan, Flowers could be a very solid right tackle for years to come.

McCloughan won’t necessarily reject the other five on Mayock’s list. But they all weighed in at under 315 lb. at the NFL Combine and if all other factors are equal (and they rarely are), I see McCloughan going with the bigger player.


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  1. Stephfan - Apr 13, 2015 at 5:31 AM

    I’m still hopeing we stay at 5 and get a receiver or pass rusher

  2. sidepull - Apr 13, 2015 at 6:31 AM

    Could be any of them but it would be a trade back. I am sure they wont take O line at 5..
    I like Collins.

  3. bk70 - Apr 13, 2015 at 6:34 AM

    Are you saying that a RT upgrade in the first round should be the starter over Moses or Compton? It would be great if the selected OT was ready to be the starter. Every analyst/sportswriter list so many weaknesses on the top tackles that its hard to understand why they are rated so high. What I do know is that the offensive line coach will have to prove themselves worthy during OTA and training camp.

  4. abanig - Apr 13, 2015 at 7:26 AM

    Brandon Scherff, Mayock always makes up predictions or points different than everyone else a month before the draft for website hits/attention.

    Mayock is the same guy who rammed Robert Ayers, Lawrence Sidbury and Larry English down fans throats and they’ve basically been busts.

    None of them were ever worthy of first round picks.

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 13, 2015 at 8:24 AM

    I think that the one the Redskins would go after if he’s still on the board is Flowers.

    Yes! He has the most upside. But I wouldn’t pick him before 11 or so, too many BPA there first.

  6. mrhart76 - Apr 13, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    They must see nothing in Moses. Injury aside he should be recovered at least by preseason. Maybe sooner. Or maybe he could play guard. Just keep building those lines up and the rest will fall in place.

    • ET - Apr 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM

      Recovery from a Lisfranc injury isn’t cut and dried. Come draft time, the organization would be foolish to A) assume that Moses will be completely better by training camp, and B) that he is the de facto starter. That doesn’t negate his long-term potential, it’s just realism.

    • bangkokben - Apr 13, 2015 at 1:18 PM

      Lisfranc injuries are nothing to scoff at, especially for big men. And it’s not like he can be working on his technique in the meantime.

      • bowlregard - Apr 13, 2015 at 5:35 PM

        They might try and stash him on IR for the year.

    • captblood3000 - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:27 PM

      Nonsense, Mr. Hart. Jay Gruden is one of the people responsible for drafting Moses. He still projects Moses as his starter at right tackle. But no one knows yet when that will happen. And should the Redskins find a tackle in the draft who wins the starting right tackle job, great. But that doesn’t make right tackle different from almost any other position.

  7. jtaylor68 - Apr 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    If Scott McC. is a BPA manager, as we have been told, then why would we consider any of the tackles before pick 20 let alone in the first round ? Most of the analyst’s have been projecting most of the tackles as needing work and most likely being moved inside to guard. If we desperately needed a kicker and Tress Way was the #1 punter in the draft; would anyone consider taking him early and converting him? Donovan Smith, for example, has everything about him that you want in a tackle and he needs to be “coached up” for the pro-level, the difference is, we could get him later where he belongs in this draft and use early picks on sure players at their natural position. If you need a guard, you draft a guard (Laklin Tomlinson). Tom Compton is a project, but he already has pro experience. If we believe Erik Flowers or Andrus Peat could come in and start, then let’s get him. If not then pick another position that high.

  8. renhoekk2 - Apr 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    Amari Cooper if he somehow falls to five. Would be BPA if there. Best WR in college last season playing in best conference. 3 yrs worth of ridiculous production. Runs entire NFL route tree in pro style offense. Lines up at all three WR positions. Probably most NFL ready player in the entire draft.

  9. Scott talbert - Apr 13, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    I really like l.Williams,Dante Fowler jr or Vic Beasley! Rich,if I come to D.C. this season can we grab a beer?

  10. redskinscaio - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    I wish the name of the article was, “Which Offensive Tackle Will the Redskins Take in the First Round”

  11. redskinscaio - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    The Skins drafted an OLB last year with their first pick. I hate all this talk that they have to draft an OLB with their first pick again this year, because “they’re the best player available”. That’s baloney. There’s no proof.

    Most people are wrong, and I’m right. Trust me. lol. If you want the Redskins to win this year. They should grab the best offensive lineman in the draft this year. Who is going to consistently win the battle? Shane Ray, 6’3 235lbs or the likes of an elite offensive lineman that can run but who is 6’5 320lbs?!! Come on people give me a break. The SKins NEED to go offensive line. Football is a physical sport. The bigger you are, the more you’ll be able to SHOVE your little opponent to the ground. There’s a reason that in professional sports that involve violence, like boxing, the big guys can’t fight the little guys. They separate the little guys into different divisions. You can’t have a Heavyweight fighting a feather weight, the Heavyweight will kill the little guy. Come on, it’s not brain surgery. 320 pounds versus 235 pounds. Take the offensive lineman. Let’s rebuild the HOGS!

    Look at all the Super Bowl Champions. They all had really good offensive lines!

    • redskinscaio - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:27 AM

      Has any of you ever stood next to an all pro offensive lineman, 6’5 320 pounds? Trust me, draft an offensive lineman! We got the QB, we got the WRs, we got the rb, we just need the big guys up front to block!

      • captblood3000 - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:33 PM

        Sorry, Caio. Last week it was “draft Shelton and trade Knighton”. The Redskins will draft BPA. They will not draft for “NEED”.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM

          I haven’t seen the tape on the rookies…but having analyzed many of the mock drafts and their reports on the rookies, I feel that Danny Shelton would be the best player available at 5. The fact that he is 330 plus pounds and can play all 3 downs, to me, makes him a top five pick. But I change my mind on a weekly basis.

        • captblood3000 - Apr 14, 2015 at 5:36 PM

          Shelton was pretty ordinary against top competition. I’m confident that Mariotta, Winston, Fowler, Williams, White and Cooper will be selected before Shelton, because they’re either better players or they’re quarterbacks. And the Redskins at #5 will select whoever’s left among Fowler, Williams or White.

          And Caio, if you want big, get the human bowling ball from East Carolina.

    • bangkokben - Apr 13, 2015 at 1:47 PM

      Okay. Let’s look at the Super Bowl Champions. Name a starter on the 2014 Patriots, the 2013 Seahawks, the 2012 Ravens, the 2011 Giants, and the 2010 Packers. Go ahead, google them, then search them individually and tell me how many All-Pros you’ve got.

      The Patriots have the best quarterback and coach in the last generation, the Seahawks had the best defense since the ’85 Bears, the Ravens also did it with defense. The Giants did it with a crazy pass rush and the Packers have the current best quarterback in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers, and a premier wide receiver corps. Also, all of the teams are what teams need to strive to be – TEAMS.

      If you need someone big to stand next to, you’ve got Tyler Polumbus.

      • bowlregard - Apr 13, 2015 at 5:47 PM

        What the Pats did this year with their OL was most impressive. They struggled early, and then replaced a couple of linemen with rookies.

        But one can also look at the Cowboys. They pick linemen high and Martin along with a new commitment to the run they played a lot better.

        QBs can neutralize a lot of defects in the OL, but good lines are still very useful. The Giants had quite a run with the OL until just the last couple of years. They had a good running game to go with Eli and those edge rushers.

        There’s different ways to skin a cat, and a dominant line is useful in covering up weakness at QB. Gibbs had the hogs, and won SBs with three different QBs.

        • bangkokben - Apr 13, 2015 at 6:45 PM

          None of the o-lines that have won the Super Bowl in the past five years have been ‘dominant.’ None have nicknames and any individual accolades they may have stem from their teams’ success rather than propel their teams to success. Sure, what the Patriots did last year in the end was successful but that stems from their organization. When they were 2-2 everyone was saying how their o-line wasn’t giving them enough time to throw. Then later in the season, they used a 6th o-linemen as a tight end and ran all over the Colts. They have a quarterback, coach, and organization that doesn’t require a dominant o-line to be successful. The only ‘dominant’ o-line in recent history is the Cowboys current line and they have been ‘dominant’ for ONE year. Let’s see how they do this year before you crown them. The 49ers also had a good run recently but they wouldn’t likely be categorized as dominant.

          The point is that the recent championship teams don’t have DOMINANT offensive lines – they have good ones and sometimes average ones – and the recent teams that have had strong offensive lines (Cowboys, 49ers, Jets, and Chiefs) don’t have any trophies. There is certainly more then one way to skin a cat. My primary argument is that the resources required (outside of coaching) to turn the ‘skins o-line into a dominant one are too costly.for a team with limited talent. Wouldn’t it be easier to insert Brees, Roethlisberger, OR Brady than to replace Lavauo, Lichtensteiger, Chester, AND Compton? This offense as it is would win games with solid quarterback play or a dominant o-line. By the time you create a dominant line you longer have the same offense or the resources to insert talent at the playmaker positions.

      • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 2:48 PM

        Patriots 2014 – Solder, Mankins and Vollmer. 3 outstanding offensive linemen. They were so good, they made Blount look like a super star. Didn’t Blount rush for over 130 yards several times in the playoffs? Wasn’t Blount stinking it up a few before that for the steelers? Whats the difference? The offensive line. Well, Mankins did get traded earlier in the year….but still.

        How about the Eagles? Is Mark Sanchez that good? How come he was terrible, and then he shows up on the Eagles and looks pretty good? Hmmm, how about the fact that the Eagles have an outstanding offensive line…. evan Mathis and Jason Peters, 2 of the best in the league…

      • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 2:55 PM

        OK let’s look at the 2013 Seahawks. Russel Okung, Max Unger at center. Unger made the Pro Bowl that year…. James Carpenter is also a VERY good guard.

      • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 3:09 PM

        Let’s go to the 2011 Giants –

        one of the best players on the team was Chris Snee – Guard – 4-time pro bowler, 3 time all pro

        David Diehl – one time pro bowler, 2 rings

        Kareem McKenzie was pretty good, but no pro bowls…

        Kevin Boothe, also very solid player with 2 rings…

      • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 3:19 PM

        How about last year’s Dallas Cowboys? All the experts had them being one of the worst teams in the league, all the experts had them with double digit losses, their defense was atrocious and they lost Ware….but then they made the playoffs….did they have 2 pro bowlers on that offensive line? Or was it 3?

        • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 3:25 PM

          the 2010 Packers –

          Chad Clifton – 2 time pro bowler

          Bulaga – was a first round pick that year, made the ALL NFL ROOKIE Team that year

        • redskinscaio - Apr 14, 2015 at 3:29 PM

          The Ravens – Yanda 4 time pro bowler,

          McKinney – pro bowler

          Matt Birk – 6 time pro bowler

          Michael Oher – 1st round pick

          In conclusion – the Ravens had a dominant offensive line.

        • bangkokben - Apr 14, 2015 at 5:18 PM

          You’re making my point. The accolades of most of the linemen you mention are the results of their teams’ success rather then the impetus of their teams’ success. Read or re-read my comment from: bangkokben – Apr 13, 2015 at 6:45 PM above your Patriot post, if you are serious about this debate. I’m not saying we don’t need to improve the o-line but to suggest that if the Redskins would have the hogs back that they would be 12-4 instead of 4-12 doesn’t factor in the monumental change this organization would undergo in the time that it takes to develop that. Everyone likes to point to Dallas as if this took place overnight. It began in 2011 when they took Tyron Smith and they already had their franchise quarterback and #1 wide receiver. Now their sell by date approaches as Romo is one hit away from retirement.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM

          I don’t know why, but the comment thread is not showing my other analysis of other super bowl teams and their dominant offensive line, like the 2009 super bowl champion saints who had five pro bowlers on the line! Dude, all i’m saying is, the point i’m trying to get across, is that most people, like yourself, doesn’t realize, and is thus ignorant to the FACT that the offensive line is the most important part of a football team. As pitching is to baseball, defense to soccer, the offensive line is to football.

        • Stephfan - Apr 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM

          An Oline is important because without a decent Oline no qb or running back can thrive. No matter what number in the draft they are called. An Oline matters, a good one at that

        • redskinscaio - Apr 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM

          Boom, don’t change the subject, you asked a question and i hit it out of the part. Evey Super Bowl champion in the last decade that I checked into had at least 2 elite offensive lineman, most had 3, the Saints in 09 had 5. Remember when Brady went down in week 1 and Matt Cassell stepped in and went 10-6. Why? Because the Patriots had the best offensive line in the world. 3 pro bowlers that year. Should have been 4. I”m telling you man, you ever get put in charge of building a football team, grab the best offensive linemen and your team will win it all.

        • bangkokben - Apr 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM

          The offensive line is important. I never said it wasn’t. What I’m disagreeing with you is that it is paramount and that it must be dominant and how to get to be dominant is using your top picks on the personnel.

          As for the debate, YOU changed the criteria. Not me. I specifically said LAST five years and ALL-PROS – not getting guys voted to the pro-bowl. You’ve got two Marshall Yanda and Chris Snee. Don’t expect anyone to claim these guys as first ballot hall of famers let alone getting into the hall and more specifically that these guys were the reason for their team’s success. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and even Joe Flacco are going to get the Raven’s credit and the Giants pass rush against the patriots pro-bowlers for Giant’s win.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 16, 2015 at 12:25 PM

          You can ignore the facts all you want and continue to live in your fantasy land. But I just revealed to you that every single one of those teams, the Super Bowl champion teams, had ELITE offensive lines. Every single one had at least 3 pro bowlers on their line, except for one… The offensive line is PARAMOUNT to a team’s success. You either know it or you don’t… Now it’s your turn, find at least ONE super bowl champion that had an atrocious offensive line? Go ahead, just one.

        • redskinscaio - Apr 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM

          Why did the Giants beat the undefeated Patriots? Come on man. The Giant’s offensive line was better than the Patriots’ defensive line, and the Patriot’s offensive line was worse than the Patriot’s offensive line. Alright, man, debate is over. I am the winner.

  12. rcjur - Apr 13, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    Just move Moses to Guard and Long to Center. Draft a Tackle and Guard with 2 picks out of the 7 or more the team will have in draft and definitely sign the best veteran OLine player released before training camp or by season. Smart move would be also to find few UFA OLine players to add to roster, at least one because the team will and I hope release Chester and Kory and stay final goodbye to Polumbus.

    As for what to do with the #5 pick, if Williams, Fowler Jr., or White is not there trade back and draft a Tackle and OLB with first 2 picks in 2015 draft.

    • captblood3000 - Apr 13, 2015 at 11:46 PM

      “Just”? Why would you move two of your projected 2015 starters to new positions? The Redskins recently signed Tyler Larsen, center from Utah State, where he started all four years. Larsen was a Rimington Award finalist. Larsen is just as big as Long.

      And enough with moving Moses to guard. There are plenty of scouting reports on Moses from before the 2014 NFL draft. Google them. Find us one, just one, that projects Moses to guard. You can find Moses’ weaknesses in those reports, but lack of athleticism will not be among them.

  13. gurnblanstonreturns - Apr 14, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    I wouldn’t take any of the OTs in the 1st round. I would love to see Andrus Peat on the board in the 2nd round though. If I got Peat in the 2nd, I would love to double down on big, smart OLs in the 3rd with Laken Tomlinson. Archives

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