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Mock draft roundup: No consensus for Redskins’ top pick

Jan 26, 2015, 10:00 AM EDT


The Redskins have a first-round pick for the first time since 2012 and not since 2011 has there been some doubt about the player the Redskins will take with that top pick. That means that Redskins fans have not been able to have fun with the mock draft game for four years. Let’s take a spin around the World Wide Web and see what the more well known draftniks have to say about who the home team will take with the fifth overall pick.

Rob Rang, CBS Sports (updated 1/20)

Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa

“Jay Gruden’s success as the play-caller in Cincinnati came with one of the league’s biggest offensive lines. He inherited one of the smallest in Washington and there is no question that upgrading the talent there will be an offseason priority.”

Dane Brugler, CBS Sports (updated 1/20)
Dante Fowler Jr., OLB, Florida

“With Brian Orakpo set to hit free agency, pass rusher will be high on the Redskins’ wish list. Fowler projects best to the NFL as a stand-up edge rusher, using his relentless energy to be effective disrupting the pocket.”

Steven Ruiz and Michael Middlehurst-Schwartz, USA Today (updated 1/22)
Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska

Some have Gregory going sooner than this If this happens the Redskins could end up with an excellent all-around defender who can provide heat on the quarterback.

Bucky Brooks, (updated 1/19)
Landon Collins, S, Alabama

“Collins is a ball hawk with the instincts and awareness to shut down the middle of the field.”

Daniel Jeremiah, (updated 1/14)
Leonard Williams, DE, USC

“The Redskins need help in several areas, and Williams would be a steal at this spot. He can dominate versus the run and pass.”

Ben Standig, (updated 1/13)
Shane Ray, DE, Missouri

“. . . That leaves pass rushers and there are a few good ones. Ray recorded 14.5 sacks this season at Missouri. Not sure what the Missouri star’s addition means for Trent Murphy in the starting lineup, but it should mean applying more pressure on the Tony Romos of the world.”

  1. Jax4 - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:27 AM


    • hcicron - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:31 AM

      After watching the bowl game I’m thinking pass on Collins

      • captblood3000 - Jan 26, 2015 at 11:41 AM

        I saw Collins on his back too many times against Ohio State. Which is ironic, since he’s a strong safety.

        • bangkokben - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:01 PM

          If Collins looked like Sean Taylor, yes. He doesn’t. If he looked like Laron Landry, maybe. He doesn’t. No to Collins.

    • ray - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:08 PM

      No way do you take landon collins before DT leonard williams or DT danny shelton. Safety kurtis drummond you take in rd2.

    • Joe Greene - Jan 27, 2015 at 3:34 AM

      A bad cover safety at #5 is a horrible idea.

  2. jscx3 - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Pick the best player available. They just need an infusion of talent. In the top 5 spots it’s looks like more defense then offense. I would be happy with any of the projected players from NT to OLB or DE. Playmakers on defense. On offense we have the playmakers, just need the grunts to get it done. A good pass rush will make our secondary better. I think that they have some interesting young secondary players that might develop. Just need coaching to teach these young guys. The last few years the secondary looked lost. It’s one thing to get beat by a great play, but when you are almost always out of position. That is lack of teaching. I don’t believe the skins draft all low level iq players. Great teaching can mask lack of ability. It will be fun to watch this team grow, in three years they can be compatible.

  3. goback2rfk - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Trade the pick off for multiple lower round picks. We need more help than 1 dude.

    • skinsdiehard - Jan 26, 2015 at 12:06 PM


    • bangkokben - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:09 PM

      Last year we traded a pick to the Cowboys for Trent Murphy and Morgan Moses. How is that working out. Morgan Moses’ injury makes him irrelevant for another year. Murphy is not an elite pass rusher that we may draft an upgrade at number 5. Or you may remember Vinny trading back for the 3 ‘pass catchers,’ Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and Malcom Kelly.

      if you’re going to trade back at least get a pick in next year’s draft. That’s how New England always ends up with a surplus of picks. Build this team. A player next year is just as good as player this year.

      • murphsman - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:32 PM

        So you’re saying we shouldn’t trade back? Correct me if im wrong, but I believe we started the 2011 draft with the number 6 pick, and I believe 7 picks altogether. We traded back multiple times and ended up with Kerrigan, Helu, and Paul, among others. Granted, all of them didn’t work out, like Dejon Gomes, but still. Nothing wrong with trading back

        • bangkokben - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:52 PM

          No. I’m saying IF you trade back, get a pick in next year’s draft as well. You use the 2011 draft and other than Kerrigan who will be on the team next year?

          Also, we could have – just like many of the mocks had us – picked J.J. Watt at #8. Are you saying that Kerrigan, Helu, and Paul are better than J.J. Watt???! Maybe we thought we could get him at #16 or trade up and get him at 12. Who knows? We missed all these guys when we traded back in 2011: Mike Pouncey #15, Robert Quinn #14, Nick Fairly #13, JJ Watt at #11, and Tyron Smith at #9. You could argue that we SETTLED for Ryan Kerrigan or we didn’t know who to pick and were fine with five or six guys.

          For the record, at the time, I was glad we got Kerrigan when we traded back because many of the mocks had us picking a quarterback and I did not want Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, or Christian Ponder – all of which went between #8 and #12. I was afraid that Shanahan wanted to get better value for a sorry quarterback.

          If you want to trade back at the end of the draft just to get more bodies, I’m on board with that.

        • brucefan1 - Jan 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM

          What bangkokben said. Kudos on his research into what the Skins passed on by trading down in the ’11 draft! (Not that RK91 is a bust, though!).

          While I agree that trading down for more picks is definitely an option, teams do seem to run the risk of missing out on one of those studs that can be found much more often in the first fifteen or so picks of the draft. It seems that the chances of finding those “franchise picks” falls of exponentially as you move farther down into the first round – and especially into the second round.

          (Don’t know that for sure though. Hopefully some eager-beaver will look further into the track record of choosing to trade down vs. staying put. Somebody? Anybody? Bueller?)

          But I’m gonna put my faith in Scot McCloughan doing what’s worked best for him in the past (and then be disappointed later? LOL).

      • Joe Greene - Jan 27, 2015 at 3:35 AM

        Last year we had a hack who had never been the personnel guy making the picks.

  4. captblood3000 - Jan 26, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    This was reported by Charlie Campbell (Walter Football) from the Senior Bowl on Jan 21, 2015. FWIW.

    “It has become commonplace to project the Redskins to take an offensive lineman in the first round of the 2015 NFL Draft. Washington’s line was a weakness in 2014 and the team has to keep Robert Griffin III healthy. However, the Redskins are optimistic that they have some in-house answers from their 2014 draft class. Guard Spencer Long is projected to become a starter, and sources say that Morgan Moses was really improving before he broke his foot. They say that Moses was about ready to take on a starting job when the injury happened. The Redskins like how their second-day picks from the 2014 NFL Draft are developing as cornerback Bashaud Breeland played well as a rookie. Washington also might address the offensive line with some proven veterans in free agency rather than pin the health of Griffin on a rookie making the jump from college to pros. The offensive line is in play for the Redskins, but because of their 2014 picks, the team doesn’t feel desperate and won’t reach for a player who isn’t worthy of that pick. ”

    Assuming that Charlie isn’t making this up (the signing of free agents could well be conjecture), the number of suspects for his Redskins source(s) is limited: someone still with the team, available for comment in Mobile, who watched these guys closely last season. And the report implies that if there isn’t a offensive tackle worthy of the #5 pick, they won’t take an offensive tackle, let alone a guard like Scherff. The Redskins under Snyder have undervalued both offensive and defensive linemen. Let’s hope that last year marked the beginning of a new trend.

    • Joe Greene - Jan 27, 2015 at 3:37 AM

      Charlie Campbell is even worse than Walter. He has absolutely no sources and he does not attend things like the Senior Bowl in person. That site is literally a guy who lives in his dad’s basement and his friend Charlie making BS up every day.

      • captblood3000 - Jan 27, 2015 at 9:52 AM

        Well, Joe, what Charlie “made up” about Long agrees with your assessment of Long. So Charlie made up multiple reports each day “from Mobile”? And Allen or Gruden would never talk to Charlie because Charlie ran a Bucs blog. Got it.

        • Joe Greene - Jan 27, 2015 at 6:13 PM

          Yes, Charlie made up the from Mobile part of things. He was not there. As for the assessment of Long, I simply culled that together from things publicly available on the internet. It took no insight whatsoever. Walter Football is routinely one of the most inaccurate, ignorant draft websites out there.

  5. skinsdiehard - Jan 26, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    Gregory or Shane Ray at OLB. Leonard Williams will be gone. Trent Murphy is not a starter or will be needed to replace Kerrigan later. Kerrigan will not re-sign here if the Skins keep losing.

  6. Scottlo91 - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Trade down then OL OL OL. Hate to use Dallas as an example, but a stud OL takes ya places

    • captblood3000 - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM

      Dallas spent first round picks in successive drafts, not 3 successive picks in one draft. If the Redskins expect both Long and Moses to take over starting roles no later than 2016, then whose replacement do you draft at #5? Who will that player be? And how will that player represent value at #5?

      • bullets2586 - Jan 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM

        I don’t ever see Moses being anything more than a backup. He has slow feet and not very agile. And he already has knee issues.

        • captblood3000 - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:24 PM

          See my post above. The Redskins coaches disagree with you.

    • Mr Hart - Jan 26, 2015 at 4:00 PM


    • Joe Greene - Jan 27, 2015 at 3:38 AM

      Dallas? You mean the team that would have been 1 and done again if not for a gift game from the officials?

  7. murphsman - Jan 26, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    If we do stay put, I’d be happy with Shelton or Gregory.

  8. sidepull - Jan 26, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    If we stay put:
    Williams if he falls, which he wont then I would hope they take Shelton because I think he is going to be great for a long time.

    I was really hoping they would grab Ray earlier on before I began to watch Shelton game highlights. I like Ray and his speed and size and its hard for me to choose between him and Gregory but both are high motor guys. I just hope they get a guy that can produce quickly and not need a lot of mollycoddling. Scot has a lot to work with and I swear I do not think the 5 pick will be on offense.

  9. bowlregard - Jan 26, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Of course, if Mariota falls the Skins, trading down becomes a possibility where you can exact a premium.

    • murphsman - Jan 26, 2015 at 7:14 PM

      If he’s there, I think we trade with Philly for an extra pick. The word is they’re high on Mariota.

      • bangkokben - Jan 26, 2015 at 7:32 PM

        I would want to swap 1sts, get their 2nd, and their 2016 1st.

      • captblood3000 - Jan 26, 2015 at 10:56 PM

        The difference between #5 and #20 is this year’s #52 (Eagles 2nd rounder) and the Eagles 2016 first rounder. 2 extra picks. It’s a fair trade that wouldn’t exact a premium on the Eagles.

    • bullets2586 - Jan 26, 2015 at 8:03 PM

      If the Skins take Mariota I’m burning my jersey. The guy will be a flop. Mark my words. FLOP

  10. mitch2538 - Jan 27, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Leonard Williams is the pick at #5 if he’s available. If not, trade down and pick Brandon Scherff or Danny Shelton.

    Safety needs could be addressed during free agency or later in the draft. FS Rahim Moore or SS Ron Parker are a couple of names to keep in mind.

  11. claydog316 - Jan 27, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    “Fat boys wins my game,” he said. “I know football, and in December, in the playoffs, fat boys win. Whoever’s got the best fat boys is gonna win, so I’m gonna collect fat boys. I can find Fred Smoots–not a dime a dozen, but I can find cornerbacks that can make plays. I can find that. I can’t find a big boy that can push this line for four quarters.”(SMOOT)

    I agree with Jabber Jaw……. give secondary less time to cover and our QB more time standing upright!!!

    draft the fat guys!!!!!!!

    Skinz4life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Archives

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